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Who’s the better team: 20/21 Barca or 23/24 Barca?

20/21 Barca was more aesthetically pleasing. They just played with such fluidity. When they were on it, they played like Pep’s Barca. When they got stuck though, they really struggled for a plan B. I think that 23/24 Barca are more dull, but also more flexible. They are able to find different ways to win. The football purist in me prefers 20/21 Barca.

20/21 team by far and possibly the best ever team. They would wipe the floor with this current Barca team. They had a proven goal scorer in Jenni and forward line of Jenni, Martens, Alexia that were interchangeable, an Alexia in her prime and on a rampage - pulling the strings, a better defence, better midfield and and team spirit/leadership that would not allow them to be denied. Not to mention quality depth. This current team while still winning are not as strong in defence- Irene and Ona are great but Bronze and Ingrid are liabilities. Midfield lack the drive and steel they would have with prime Alexia, Hamraoui, and a healthy Patri. The frontline lacks a reliable goal scorer. Barca has lacked a reliable goal scorer since Jenni, Martens and AMC. Plus they are a dull team who lack personalities in the squad. The 2020-2021 dominated the top 100 players list with 13. Still waiting to see how this current team responds when they meet a team that will have a go at their defence and when they fall behind if they have what it takes to fight back. I am for sure pullin for them to sweep all challengers but I will always favor the 20-21 team for their beautiful football and glorious personalities.

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Aitana may have had selfish reasons for going back, but she opened a dialogue with the RFEF, and said that the changes that they made prior to the WC (travel conditions, allowance for family travel) were enough for her to go back and continue to push for more change from within. Basically she accepted that Las 15 strategy was wrong and wasn’t too stubborn to move on from it. She also made her peace with the players who hadn’t been part of Las 15 and seems to have integrated well back into the locker room. I don’t remember her giving multiple interviews preaching about her values before all that, which probably helped her reintegration. And she did face up to the media when she returned and explained why she returned, which is more than Alexia did, who completely boycotted her media duties until they won the WC because she knew that no one would ask her then why she went back. Aitana may not have done everything perfectly, but she’s not a coward.

x2 exactly. The difference is Aitana was able to recognize when she made a wrong strategy, made peace with herself and her teammates and then went together despite of criticisms like the above, fought together and won the WC and gave themselves a platform to make changes from the inside. Laia A and Lucia had recent interviews detailing their heartbreak of being part of last 15 and being passed over for WC. But look at the team now, everyone has made peace and more united than ever, including Aitana, Laia A and Lucia. The problem with Patri is she's being a hypocrite right now because she's seeing the team is succeeding without her, she thought her values were right and the team will crumble, but the struggles only made the team stronger together - even without Patri. So now she wants in on the success too - which should have been okay IF she wasn't doing all these interviews still shading them. If you want to come back then act like the others did, make peace. The way she's doing it now is just creating tension, all because she can't admit she was wrong.

Okay but my point is, Patri hasn’t come back. You’re assuming a lot of stuff based off actions she hasn’t even done yet. You don’t know what’s going to happen in the future if she comes back. Same as we didn’t know what Aitana would say until after she came back. I don’t even think Patri is shading them. Her values are her own, and they aren’t right or wrong, because they are things that matter to her. Also pretty sure no one here is on any of their teams, so you don’t know about any tension.

DA. I think the point is that both she and Mapi could have said that they did not go back because the changes that the RFEF made prior to the WC were not enough for them, they wanted more and left it at that. Instead they made a massive deal of saying that they did not go back because they were unwilling to compromise on their values. Intentionally or not, that does insinuate that they think that the players who did feel like the minimum changes were enough to go back compromised their values. And it’s not like they said it only once.

That’s just a defensive way of thinking though. People can say they have their own values and if people get defensive about that… I wonder what are they trying to defend

It’s an opinion, not a defensive way of thinking.

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Natalia Arroyo rolling over for Barca before the game even starts every single time is one of the reasons why she should never even be considered for Spain NT coach.

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Spain's NT and Barcelona have really won it with Salma. This girl has such a high potential. It's crazy how much she improved in such a short time.

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I miss mapi

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x2 exactly. The difference is Aitana was able to recognize when she made a wrong strategy, made peace with herself and her teammates and then went together despite of criticisms like the above, fought together and won the WC and gave themselves a platform to make changes from the inside. Laia A and Lucia had recent interviews detailing their heartbreak of being part of last 15 and being passed over for WC. But look at the team now, everyone has made peace and more united than ever, including Aitana, Laia A and Lucia. The problem with Patri is she's being a hypocrite right now because she's seeing the team is succeeding without her, she thought her values were right and the team will crumble, but the struggles only made the team stronger together - even without Patri. So now she wants in on the success too - which should have been okay IF she wasn't doing all these interviews still shading them. If you want to come back then act like the others did, make peace. The way she's doing it now is just creating tension, all because she can't admit she was wrong.

Okay but my point is, Patri hasn’t come back. You’re assuming a lot of stuff based off actions she hasn’t even done yet. You don’t know what’s going to happen in the future if she comes back. Same as we didn’t know what Aitana would say until after she came back. I don’t even think Patri is shading them. Her values are her own, and they aren’t right or wrong, because they are things that matter to her. Also pretty sure no one here is on any of their teams, so you don’t know about any tension.

DA. I think the point is that both she and Mapi could have said that they did not go back because the changes that the RFEF made prior to the WC were not enough for them, they wanted more and left it at that. Instead they made a massive deal of saying that they did not go back because they were unwilling to compromise on their values. Intentionally or not, that does insinuate that they think that the players who did feel like the minimum changes were enough to go back compromised their values. And it’s not like they said it only once.

That’s just a defensive way of thinking though. People can say they have their own values and if people get defensive about that… I wonder what are they trying to defend

It’s an opinion, not a defensive way of thinking.

It’s an opinion and it’s defensive. Defending something because you think that someone saying something that is good (having values) about themself, insinuates that someone else doesn’t have values (not a good thing).

It’s like saying “I’m a good football player” and everyone assuming that means I’m saying everyone else is not a good football player.

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Okay but my point is, Patri hasn’t come back. You’re assuming a lot of stuff based off actions she hasn’t even done yet. You don’t know what’s going to happen in the future if she comes back. Same as we didn’t know what Aitana would say until after she came back. I don’t even think Patri is shading them. Her values are her own, and they aren’t right or wrong, because they are things that matter to her. Also pretty sure no one here is on any of their teams, so you don’t know about any tension.

DA. I think the point is that both she and Mapi could have said that they did not go back because the changes that the RFEF made prior to the WC were not enough for them, they wanted more and left it at that. Instead they made a massive deal of saying that they did not go back because they were unwilling to compromise on their values. Intentionally or not, that does insinuate that they think that the players who did feel like the minimum changes were enough to go back compromised their values. And it’s not like they said it only once.

That’s just a defensive way of thinking though. People can say they have their own values and if people get defensive about that… I wonder what are they trying to defend

It’s an opinion, not a defensive way of thinking.

It’s an opinion and it’s defensive. Defending something because you think that someone saying something that is good (having values) about themself, insinuates that someone else doesn’t have values (not a good thing).

It’s like saying “I’m a good football player” and everyone assuming that means I’m saying everyone else is not a good football player.

That’s a bullshit analogy and you know it. It’s nothing like the situation where they are asked why didn’t they go back when their teammates did. In that specific scenario, if the answer is that you have values, it can definitely be seen as insinuating that the players who went back have no values. Whereas if the answer was that the changes made weren’t enough for them, well that doesn’t insinuate anything about the other players.

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DA. I think the point is that both she and Mapi could have said that they did not go back because the changes that the RFEF made prior to the WC were not enough for them, they wanted more and left it at that. Instead they made a massive deal of saying that they did not go back because they were unwilling to compromise on their values. Intentionally or not, that does insinuate that they think that the players who did feel like the minimum changes were enough to go back compromised their values. And it’s not like they said it only once.

That’s just a defensive way of thinking though. People can say they have their own values and if people get defensive about that… I wonder what are they trying to defend

It’s an opinion, not a defensive way of thinking.

It’s an opinion and it’s defensive. Defending something because you think that someone saying something that is good (having values) about themself, insinuates that someone else doesn’t have values (not a good thing).

It’s like saying “I’m a good football player” and everyone assuming that means I’m saying everyone else is not a good football player.

That’s a bullshit analogy and you know it. It’s nothing like the situation where they are asked why didn’t they go back when their teammates did. In that specific scenario, if the answer is that you have values, it can definitely be seen as insinuating that the players who went back have no values. Whereas if the answer was that the changes made weren’t enough for them, well that doesn’t insinuate anything about the other players.

Nope, I don’t know that. It can be seen that way, but by defensive people. That’s just my silly bullshit opinion. Literally every person on this earth has different values. Stop putting people in some very tiny box.

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This is Jana's fav day of the year, she's such a fan of Chiara
Also Alexia telling her that they were huge fans, I bet the little ones couldn't stop talking about her hahaha

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https://x.com/julia23cule/status/176769 ... 13787?s=46

does anybody know what this tweet is about

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This is Jana's fav day of the year, she's such a fan of Chiara
Also Alexia telling her that they were huge fans, I bet the little ones couldn't stop talking about her hahaha

Ffs I thought I already escaped this. I have muted "chiara" and any other related keywords on my twitter/x timeline because at one point anything barça was getting flooded and connecting to that girl. I only wanted my barça updates and absolutely don't give a shit about this girl. But the way even Tikas was shoving her into anything barça was so annoying that I hated and had to mute/block. And now official femeni is actually featuring her. Goddammit.

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This is Jana's fav day of the year, she's such a fan of Chiara
Also Alexia telling her that they were huge fans, I bet the little ones couldn't stop talking about her hahaha

Aww they are cute

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I don't know whether to laugh or cry. United genuinely need a mass clearout in their upper echelons, because at this point it borders on deliberate sabotage.

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*Try that again with the right media format*

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I miss mapi

Don’t we all fam dont we all

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What's the situation with Leila Ouahabi, is she fam, is she single??

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Does Salma have a gf?

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To the 2 newbies above asking about Leila and Salma, for the nth time:

Yes Leila is fam. Currently dating crisklein (a dj?) for years now. Used to date Mariona, then allegedly cheated on her with Misa.

Salma we don't know and not much clues either. Some were theorising she has/had a thing with ex barca b player Ari M, mostly due to social media interactions. But it's been many times now that she called Ari M her "little sister". The other day was Ari's bday and while Salma posted on ig story several sus pics, she quickly shot it down by again calling her little sis LOL

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Anyone know what Mapi is saying in her Instagram story about the boxer Ezequiel Guerra?

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Does Laporta not even get just a little bit embarrassed with their makeshift gym in a tent? Good for Real Sociedad for investing. Hopefully other teams follow and lift their quality.

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So what about this solano girl?
Feels like we Germans just getting the leftovers

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So what about this solano girl?
Feels like we Germans just getting the leftovers

she was pretty good last season that's why vilda gave her a chance, this season she's been unlucky with injuries but lately getting into form and starting games, she is not a bad player but doesnt have the typical spanish CB profile she's more the old school type (kinda slow but good on box defending, very physical, decent on the air, struggles a bit with the ball on her feet) so i dont think she was ever gonna have a fair chance with spain

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So what about this solano girl?
Feels like we Germans just getting the leftovers

she was pretty good last season that's why vilda gave her a chance, this season she's been unlucky with injuries but lately getting into form and starting games, she is not a bad player but doesnt have the typical spanish CB profile she's more the old school type (kinda slow but good on box defending, very physical, decent on the air, struggles a bit with the ball on her feet) so i dont think she was ever gonna have a fair chance with spain

So a leftover … lol

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So what about this solano girl?
Feels like we Germans just getting the leftovers

she was pretty good last season that's why vilda gave her a chance, this season she's been unlucky with injuries but lately getting into form and starting games, she is not a bad player but doesnt have the typical spanish CB profile she's more the old school type (kinda slow but good on box defending, very physical, decent on the air, struggles a bit with the ball on her feet) so i dont think she was ever gonna have a fair chance with spain

So a leftover … lol

You know that nobody is forcing Germany to call her up. If she’s not good enough, then don’t call her. Simple.

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To the 2 newbies above asking about Leila and Salma, for the nth time:

Yes Leila is fam. Currently dating crisklein (a dj?) for years now. Used to date Mariona, then allegedly cheated on her with Misa.

Salma we don't know and not much clues either. Some were theorising she has/had a thing with ex barca b player Ari M, mostly due to social media interactions. But it's been many times now that she called Ari M her "little sister". The other day was Ari's bday and while Salma posted on ig story several sus pics, she quickly shot it down by again calling her little sis LOL

I wish we could pin this.

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To the 2 newbies above asking about Leila and Salma, for the nth time:

Yes Leila is fam. Currently dating crisklein (a dj?) for years now. Used to date Mariona, then allegedly cheated on her with Misa.

Salma we don't know and not much clues either. Some were theorising she has/had a thing with ex barca b player Ari M, mostly due to social media interactions. But it's been many times now that she called Ari M her "little sister". The other day was Ari's bday and while Salma posted on ig story several sus pics, she quickly shot it down by again calling her little sis LOL

Op. Gracias. What about Bruna Vilamala?

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Who’s the better team: 20/21 Barca or 23/24 Barca?

20/21 Barca was more aesthetically pleasing. They just played with such fluidity. When they were on it, they played like Pep’s Barca. When they got stuck though, they really struggled for a plan B. I think that 23/24 Barca are more dull, but also more flexible. They are able to find different ways to win. The football purist in me prefers 20/21 Barca.

20/21 team by far and possibly the best ever team. They would wipe the floor with this current Barca team. They had a proven goal scorer in Jenni and forward line of Jenni, Martens, Alexia that were interchangeable, an Alexia in her prime and on a rampage - pulling the strings, a better defence, better midfield and and team spirit/leadership that would not allow them to be denied. Not to mention quality depth. This current team while still winning are not as strong in defence- Irene and Ona are great but Bronze and Ingrid are liabilities. Midfield lack the drive and steel they would have with prime Alexia, Hamraoui, and a healthy Patri. The frontline lacks a reliable goal scorer. Barca has lacked a reliable goal scorer since Jenni, Martens and AMC. Plus they are a dull team who lack personalities in the squad. The 2020-2021 dominated the top 100 players list with 13. Still waiting to see how this current team responds when they meet a team that will have a go at their defence and when they fall behind if they have what it takes to fight back. I am for sure pullin for them to sweep all challengers but I will always favor the 20-21 team for their beautiful football and glorious personalities.

Agree on the 20/21 team. If they win CL this season , it will be because Chelsea is too tired with too many injured players and Lyon did not show up. Hoping that other Spanish clubs will spend more on players. Getting bored with the lack of competition in Spain

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Manchester City included Leila in a list of their players on international duty, so safe to say that she will be called for the Catalan national team. Pina also said that there would be Barca players called. So, I’m betting that Patri will play. I’m now really curious if she will go back to Spain NT in the next camp. Realistically nothing will have changed between this camp and next. I’m wondering if she just delayed her return to focus on club and to play for the Catalan NT with Leila and Pina, and she’ll miraculously pop up in Spain NT right before the Olympics.

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Who’s the better team: 20/21 Barca or 23/24 Barca?

20/21 Barca was more aesthetically pleasing. They just played with such fluidity. When they were on it, they played like Pep’s Barca. When they got stuck though, they really struggled for a plan B. I think that 23/24 Barca are more dull, but also more flexible. They are able to find different ways to win. The football purist in me prefers 20/21 Barca.

20/21 team by far and possibly the best ever team. They would wipe the floor with this current Barca team. They had a proven goal scorer in Jenni and forward line of Jenni, Martens, Alexia that were interchangeable, an Alexia in her prime and on a rampage - pulling the strings, a better defence, better midfield and and team spirit/leadership that would not allow them to be denied. Not to mention quality depth. This current team while still winning are not as strong in defence- Irene and Ona are great but Bronze and Ingrid are liabilities. Midfield lack the drive and steel they would have with prime Alexia, Hamraoui, and a healthy Patri. The frontline lacks a reliable goal scorer. Barca has lacked a reliable goal scorer since Jenni, Martens and AMC. Plus they are a dull team who lack personalities in the squad. The 2020-2021 dominated the top 100 players list with 13. Still waiting to see how this current team responds when they meet a team that will have a go at their defence and when they fall behind if they have what it takes to fight back. I am for sure pullin for them to sweep all challengers but I will always favor the 20-21 team for their beautiful football and glorious personalities.

Agree on the 20/21 team. If they win CL this season , it will be because Chelsea is too tired with too many injured players and Lyon did not show up. Hoping that other Spanish clubs will spend more on players. Getting bored with the lack of competition in Spain

That may be fair but this current Barca side is still by far the most enjoyable current woso team to watch. Going from watching Barca play to watching a WSL game this season is like going from a fine wine to moonshine.

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Does anyone know if Misa and Cardona are still together or have they separated?

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Does anyone know if Misa and Cardona are still together or have they separated?

They were still together over New Years. There is no indication that they have separated since. They have just become extremely private.

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Manchester City included Leila in a list of their players on international duty, so safe to say that she will be called for the Catalan national team. Pina also said that there would be Barca players called. So, I’m betting that Patri will play. I’m now really curious if she will go back to Spain NT in the next camp. Realistically nothing will have changed between this camp and next. I’m wondering if she just delayed her return to focus on club and to play for the Catalan NT with Leila and Pina, and she’ll miraculously pop up in Spain NT right before the Olympics.

Marta and Gemma are officially called up to the Catalan squad, along with Leila. Barça announced they'll also participate in a friendly vs Paraguay and that's where Pina and Patri will probably join (they weren't called up to the Catalan squad).

While personally I prefer Patri to not come back, I thought since February all signs were pointing to her coming back and joining the Olympics squad. But this recent stupid take from this a-hole will probably put off Patri again as he is directly insulting the las 15 again.

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Manchester City included Leila in a list of their players on international duty, so safe to say that she will be called for the Catalan national team. Pina also said that there would be Barca players called. So, I’m betting that Patri will play. I’m now really curious if she will go back to Spain NT in the next camp. Realistically nothing will have changed between this camp and next. I’m wondering if she just delayed her return to focus on club and to play for the Catalan NT with Leila and Pina, and she’ll miraculously pop up in Spain NT right before the Olympics.

Marta and Gemma are officially called up to the Catalan squad, along with Leila. Barça announced they'll also participate in a friendly vs Paraguay and that's where Pina and Patri will probably join (they weren't called up to the Catalan squad).

While personally I prefer Patri to not come back, I thought since February all signs were pointing to her coming back and joining the Olympics squad. But this recent stupid take from this a-hole will probably put off Patri again as he is directly insulting the las 15 again.

Apparently Patri is no longer eligible to represent the Catalan NT, as the rule that allowed her to play for them at underage level ends when a player is 18. Also, assuming that Pina wasn’t called because she is still declaring herself as not wanting to play for Spain, and it would be controversial to call her for the Catalan NT so.

Regarding article below, he has not said anything new about Las 15. The article is all about what happened and what he said at the time. Honestly, I think it would be better if Patri didn’t come back anyway. She doesn’t seem clear on what she actually wants. Also, the dressing room is very united now, and they seem to have turned a corner with Montse and the coaching staff. Let them continue.

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Will the Barça - Paraguay friendly be closed door or can we stream it somewhere? Anyone know how to watch it online?

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is salma fam or no