Daria Kasatkina, out tennis player

[Guest]

I hope this will happen.

The crossover we are all waiting for

[Ariel]

This is really strange.

I still remember how popular Dasha used to be in the old forum and even here until about 10 months ago. Everyone kept mentioning her, how cute she is and similar things. Everyone kept mentioning that she is definitely lesbian, looking at the photoes with L and nobody attacked her for her result despite the fact that her results were horrible compared to her 2023 season. She was one of those cute young athletes that lesbians liked to chat and gossip about.

Then, all of a sudden, last year, she officially came out and introduced Natalia. Yes, she sort of came out already in 2021 with that interview were she said yes when she was asked if she would date a girl, but that wasn't really direct. And after some people said it's great, suddenly, the more open they became, the more hate they started to get. And the stange part is: on any other platform, people started love her more. On Twitter, Reddit, IG, Tennis forum, everywhere people started to like her more than ever.

And yet, this side, people started to attack her more and more, being negative about everything and trying to spread hate for no reason. Even on page 1 of this thread, there are people who say negative things about Natalia's appearance, that she's not feminine enough and other stuff. But that was only the beginning.

First, Natalia was attacked for simply divorcing her husband and Dasha for leaving the eternally closeted girl, people called Natalia gold digger, all kinds of insults, they called Dasha creepy for going to a vacation at the same country where she used to with L.

Then, the next phase was the "Natalia has no personality, she is a wag", which was about Natalia filming a vlog about the Football WC final, because how dare she go if she wasn't a super fan of football, how dare she spend the evening with her gf in a city where she doesn't know anyone apart from Dasha.

The next thing was all the stupid comments about blaming Natalia for every single loss of Dasha. Because apparently, you can play tennis while being in a hetero relationship, like every other player, but for Dasha, her great love is "distraction". She is not focused on tennis, because her gf edits some videos before tournaments. Because all the commenting people know what Dasha needs very well.

Then, all of a sudden, people started to attack her for her words on the Russia and the handshake issue. Because apparently, she is just putting up a show, she could return to Russia anytime, she is lying and she just pretends to have those positions to be liked by the British media. And obviously, the only reason why Sabalenka is more successful is because she tell the Ukranian players to shake her hand, so that the crowd will boo them, not her.

And these are just the main attacking lines, there are also countless other less frequent. For example, she sold herself to the "Western qUeEr" things because after 1 year of open relationship without posting a single damn rainbow flag, she took a photo with the "Pride in Tennis" group and some colorfully dressed gay men and women. So that's it, thet picture is not different from being a blue haired, identity and pronoun obsessed person.

These are all pathetic and ridiculous attacks, but today was a new low. So apparently, they are just faking to be gay. This is the point when the so called L chat is saying the exact same thing that the 80 year old Russian conservative official, who said last year that they are just pretending to be gay to get Western citizenship. Disgusting. You, f-ing trolls who are spreading this toxic hate against the only high ranked openly lesbian tennis player are all disgusting and make me want to vomit! I am sick and tired of even coming here and read all the Dasha hate comments, which are now 80% of the opinions you will find here!!!
I think that troll knows well that Dasha never came out as bisexual, she just said "yes" when Tartakova asked if would date a girl. Last year, she used the word gay every single time and when that Russian guy commented that "no man wants to be with you after this" she literally said "Could comebody explain to him that the reason for the coming out is that I DON'T NEED MEN!"... And Natalia, who also explained many times that she wanted to be with women and she basically married that guy because she hoped that will help her forgetting about wanting women.

But who cares about details, right??? This is just a new method to spread hate against them.
There is young, brave Russian lesbian athlete, who came from a small, poor town, her parents had sell everything to fund her career, she struggled with anxiety in 2019 after living with that pressure, she finally got a loving girlfriend who is even willing to go after online troll to protect her, came out and lives an open life which normalising lesbian relationships in the tennis world and in Russia on a level that we haven't even realised, and after all of this, the so called L chat is nothing but a "what is out problem with Dasha this week" anti-thread.

Honestly, anyone who is really a lesbian here and thinks she deserves this treatment simply doesn't deserve any rights. And any male homophobic troll who comes here to hate on them and to "expose them" is not a real man.

I have no problem with free discussion, I don't support any tough censorship, but I have one strict rule: don't sabotage dicussing the topic that the original post started! If it says that Daria Kasatkina is and out tennis player and she has a girlfriend, and a happy picture of them, don't turn it into an anti-Kasatkina forum. I wanted to write all of these because I'm done with this place. I realised that reading all the BS about her here just makes me more stressed, so I now have to find an other place to support her and discuss their vlog without reading all the toxic attacks on them.
To the normal anons: goodbye! To the trolls: F U.

You just said everything that I want to say! Thx! I just ignore trolls and hate speech.

[Guest]

This is really strange.

I still remember how popular Dasha used to be in the old forum and even here until about 10 months ago. Everyone kept mentioning her, how cute she is and similar things. Everyone kept mentioning that she is definitely lesbian, looking at the photoes with L and nobody attacked her for her result despite the fact that her results were horrible compared to her 2023 season. She was one of those cute young athletes that lesbians liked to chat and gossip about.

Then, all of a sudden, last year, she officially came out and introduced Natalia. Yes, she sort of came out already in 2021 with that interview were she said yes when she was asked if she would date a girl, but that wasn't really direct. And after some people said it's great, suddenly, the more open they became, the more hate they started to get. And the stange part is: on any other platform, people started love her more. On Twitter, Reddit, IG, Tennis forum, everywhere people started to like her more than ever.

And yet, this side, people started to attack her more and more, being negative about everything and trying to spread hate for no reason. Even on page 1 of this thread, there are people who say negative things about Natalia's appearance, that she's not feminine enough and other stuff. But that was only the beginning.

First, Natalia was attacked for simply divorcing her husband and Dasha for leaving the eternally closeted girl, people called Natalia gold digger, all kinds of insults, they called Dasha creepy for going to a vacation at the same country where she used to with L.

Then, the next phase was the "Natalia has no personality, she is a wag", which was about Natalia filming a vlog about the Football WC final, because how dare she go if she wasn't a super fan of football, how dare she spend the evening with her gf in a city where she doesn't know anyone apart from Dasha.

The next thing was all the stupid comments about blaming Natalia for every single loss of Dasha. Because apparently, you can play tennis while being in a hetero relationship, like every other player, but for Dasha, her great love is "distraction". She is not focused on tennis, because her gf edits some videos before tournaments. Because all the commenting people know what Dasha needs very well.

Then, all of a sudden, people started to attack her for her words on the Russia and the handshake issue. Because apparently, she is just putting up a show, she could return to Russia anytime, she is lying and she just pretends to have those positions to be liked by the British media. And obviously, the only reason why Sabalenka is more successful is because she tell the Ukranian players to shake her hand, so that the crowd will boo them, not her.

And these are just the main attacking lines, there are also countless other less frequent. For example, she sold herself to the "Western qUeEr" things because after 1 year of open relationship without posting a single damn rainbow flag, she took a photo with the "Pride in Tennis" group and some colorfully dressed gay men and women. So that's it, thet picture is not different from being a blue haired, identity and pronoun obsessed person.

These are all pathetic and ridiculous attacks, but today was a new low. So apparently, they are just faking to be gay. This is the point when the so called L chat is saying the exact same thing that the 80 year old Russian conservative official, who said last year that they are just pretending to be gay to get Western citizenship. Disgusting. You, f-ing trolls who are spreading this toxic hate against the only high ranked openly lesbian tennis player are all disgusting and make me want to vomit! I am sick and tired of even coming here and read all the Dasha hate comments, which are now 80% of the opinions you will find here!!!
I think that troll knows well that Dasha never came out as bisexual, she just said "yes" when Tartakova asked if would date a girl. Last year, she used the word gay every single time and when that Russian guy commented that "no man wants to be with you after this" she literally said "Could comebody explain to him that the reason for the coming out is that I DON'T NEED MEN!"... And Natalia, who also explained many times that she wanted to be with women and she basically married that guy because she hoped that will help her forgetting about wanting women.

But who cares about details, right??? This is just a new method to spread hate against them.
There is young, brave Russian lesbian athlete, who came from a small, poor town, her parents had sell everything to fund her career, she struggled with anxiety in 2019 after living with that pressure, she finally got a loving girlfriend who is even willing to go after online troll to protect her, came out and lives an open life which normalising lesbian relationships in the tennis world and in Russia on a level that we haven't even realised, and after all of this, the so called L chat is nothing but a "what is out problem with Dasha this week" anti-thread.

Honestly, anyone who is really a lesbian here and thinks she deserves this treatment simply doesn't deserve any rights. And any male homophobic troll who comes here to hate on them and to "expose them" is not a real man.

I have no problem with free discussion, I don't support any tough censorship, but I have one strict rule: don't sabotage dicussing the topic that the original post started! If it says that Daria Kasatkina is and out tennis player and she has a girlfriend, and a happy picture of them, don't turn it into an anti-Kasatkina forum. I wanted to write all of these because I'm done with this place. I realised that reading all the BS about her here just makes me more stressed, so I now have to find an other place to support her and discuss their vlog without reading all the toxic attacks on them.
To the normal anons: goodbye! To the trolls: F U.

You just said everything that I want to say! Thx! I just ignore trolls and hate speech.

to OP:
I read this thread occasionally, I like Dasha (and Natasha), but I am not a super fan, so I follow sporadically.
It's really sad that trolls, homophobes, insecure anons, find their way to threads like this, and many others, to unleash their cowardly attacks and, to be frank, reveal their ignorance as well.
Unfortunately this is the state we live in, but I wanted to just say: don't give up, don't let them get to you. Know that there are many like you, that will appreciate and support you.
There are many of us that like and appreciate Dasha and what she represents. And also appreciate her tennis.
It's not easy to ignore, and if this thread is making you feel uneasy, you should definitely look after yourself first, but if you still have some energy left to hang around, know that your post has been seen and it proves there are good people around. The thing is, trolls and the like shouts louder, are obvious, because that's the only way the can get others' attention. They are often insecure. You are not. Keep being outspoken and respectful as you are.

[Guest]

That very long comment was written almost a year ago, why are you replying to that now?

[Guest]

It's an old comment, but whoever wrote it: yes, congrats! This is 100% true. This year there are less and less people commenting, because everyone got tired of the hate that these two recieved last year, especially after losses. This is why I come here less and less often.

That ESPN interview was great btw, the way Natasha and Dasha described how young Russian gays are so grateful for the vlog makes it clear that their work is very important.

[Guest]

That very long comment was written almost a year ago, why are you replying to that now?

'cos I didn't look at the date... d'oh!
sentiment is still valid though

[Guest]

This was such a fun episode:

[Guest]

Is Rodionova okay? I gathered from her appearances on the vlog that she's getting divorced and this has drained her emotionally, but some of the things she says are a bit bizarre lol. The way she goes from almost flirting with Dasha, to talking about crying and drinking, then the most recent stuff when she warned Natasha to not accept just love I'm sure some of it is just more blunt Russian humor, but still.

Speaking of Russian, Volynets has such a cute accent.

[Guest]

Is Rodionova okay? I gathered from her appearances on the vlog that she's getting divorced and this has drained her emotionally, but some of the things she says are a bit bizarre lol. The way she goes from almost flirting with Dasha, to talking about crying and drinking, then the most recent stuff when she warned Natasha to not accept just love I'm sure some of it is just more blunt Russian humor, but still.

Speaking of Russian, Volynets has such a cute accent.

Don't know, I find Rodionova to be a bit much, given some things get lost in translation and, as you mention, her personal situation, maybe it's just her way to cope though.

[Guest]

These top10 talks are just laughable, cmon. This is reality. If she can win some medium sized tournament, it will be a success.

???
What are you talking about? She is the No11 player on the planet. Literally the highest ranked non-top10 player on the WTA Tour. It's not a reality.... She is 300 points away from the top10. Literally any other player is less likely to get into the top10 compared to the No.11 player.
In tennis, you can be top 5 without winning a single tournament.

Look at the calendar and the number of points to defend in Charleston, and she's not playing in Stuttgart. Ostapenko is now No.10, she plays literally everywhere this season. Look at all this and there will be no questions for you.
But in fact, I was talking about Dasha’s level, which is not suitable for Top10. I didn't want to go into detail because it's a sad topic.

DA Jabeur and Vondrousova will soon drop all their points and leave the top 10. Kasatkina will be in the top 10 for sure. At least for a short amount of time

[Guest]

Semifinal for Dasha

[Guest]

She already defended her SF points. Why are we starting the same thing again? I remember all the comments from last year about her dropping out of the top100 by the end of 2023, comments that said she will have to play ITF tournaments.

This is clay, if she can play well and doesn't choke like last year against Kudermetova, all she needs is a good draw to reach a SF or final during the clay season. Going to Stuttgart was a mistake by her last year, she lost 1st round on a weirdly fast surface and just wasted energy and money on travelling. It makes more sense to take that week off and get ready for Rome and Madrid where she can have some great results again.

[Guest]

What a match!

Dasha just had her first win against a top5 opponent since 2022. She finally won memorable match against a top player. She will be taken seriously in the next months again! Sad day for the haters who call her a pusher and a useless lesbian. Great day for Dasha and Natasha.
3 hour long match, even if she loses the final, this tournament is already a success. She was mentally strong an won the final set tiebreak.

It was a great experience after the tragic Rybakina match from last year. Congrats Dasha.

[Guest]

Now here comes the clay season, her only shot at winning a significant tournament, but it won't happen as long as she plays like this. Her Abu Dhabi form was good enough to beat anyone on clay, except for Iga of course. She had 2 finals this year already, clay and Charleston would be a good place to win a title, but she needs significant changes.

Be honest, she had only one real final this season with zero chances for the win. These talks about changes have been going around for a year or even more with no real changes. Actually, I don't care of the titles, esp if it would be 250-500 category. I want some big bright sparky matches, when you go and kick out real top player in style. If Noskova, Kalinskaya, even Blinkova, Collins and others can, why Dasha can't? I'm just envious and I miss this feeling.

Does today's victory look like a big splash? Pegula's Top5 scalp is a good one to have I think. Daria heard our prayers.
Anyway the final could be winnable too. Remember the Paolini's victory over exhausted Kalinskaya.

[Guest]

No new episodes from the vlog today. I guess they want to include the SF and F and some closing remarks again.

Natasha is filming in the background:

[Guest]

I hope Natasha tasted that, I like when they cook something for the other.

[Guest]

She is not holding back against haters...

[Guest]

The BEST and longest episode of the vlog:

- Fantastic, long interview with Azarenka. Also, Dasha admits that many people tried to steal Natasha from her.
- Interesting interview with Badosa. They discuss court speed and other topics, not just jokes.
- Dasha made Sakkari and Badosa interview each other.
- A really cute cameo from Wozniacki.
- Brady is absolutely hilarious, as always.
- Gavrilova/Saville is also fun and we learn that she was behind the "promotion interview" at the US Open last year.
- The cutest cats AND dogs.
- Less montages about the city, but more practical information about the place.
- Each match is discussed by Dasha and Natasha.
- Dasha sends brutal message to gamblers, she says they have no brain.

[Guest]

The BEST and longest episode of the vlog:

- Fantastic, long interview with Azarenka. Also, Dasha admits that many people tried to steal Natasha from her.
- Interesting interview with Badosa. They discuss court speed and other topics, not just jokes.
- Dasha made Sakkari and Badosa interview each other.
- A really cute cameo from Wozniacki.
- Brady is absolutely hilarious, as always.
- Gavrilova/Saville is also fun and we learn that she was behind the "promotion interview" at the US Open last year.
- The cutest cats AND dogs.
- Less montages about the city, but more practical information about the place.
- Each match is discussed by Dasha and Natasha.
- Dasha sends brutal message to gamblers, she says they have no brain.

So, she said gamblers who lose and then go after the player should be "wiped off from earth"...

But great episode, I agree, you should watch this. The Azarenka interview is interesting.

[Guest]

I forgot to add: they had their first real kiss in a vlog episode at 1:20:50 !!!

The BEST and longest episode of the vlog:

- Fantastic, long interview with Azarenka. Also, Dasha admits that many people tried to steal Natasha from her.
- Interesting interview with Badosa. They discuss court speed and other topics, not just jokes.
- Dasha made Sakkari and Badosa interview each other.
- A really cute cameo from Wozniacki.
- Brady is absolutely hilarious, as always.
- Gavrilova/Saville is also fun and we learn that she was behind the "promotion interview" at the US Open last year.
- The cutest cats AND dogs.
- Less montages about the city, but more practical information about the place.
- Each match is discussed by Dasha and Natasha.
- Dasha sends brutal message to gamblers, she says they have no brain.

[Guest]

The only way to top this episode is to have Iga on.

BTW i think Daria should stop reading comments about herself. This is terrible for her mental health, to read all those brainless but arrogant nobodies who literlly enjoy verbally abusing others just for the sake of it. I know she wants to promote the vlog, but Natasha can easily handle that.

[Guest]

[Guest]

Blonde Natalia is back! I did not see this coming.

[Guest]

Blonde Natalia is back! I did not see this coming.

[Guest]

[Guest]

Do you like blonde Natalia more?

[Guest]

Do you like blonde Natalia more?

I prefer the dark hair. but it's clearly a personal preference.

[Guest]

Do you like blonde Natalia more?

Honestly doesn't matter to me

[Guest]

[Guest]

[Guest]

Now here comes the clay season, her only shot at winning a significant tournament, but it won't happen as long as she plays like this. Her Abu Dhabi form was good enough to beat anyone on clay, except for Iga of course. She had 2 finals this year already, clay and Charleston would be a good place to win a title, but she needs significant changes.

Be honest, she had only one real final this season with zero chances for the win. These talks about changes have been going around for a year or even more with no real changes. Actually, I don't care of the titles, esp if it would be 250-500 category. I want some big bright sparky matches, when you go and kick out real top player in style. If Noskova, Kalinskaya, even Blinkova, Collins and others can, why Dasha can't? I'm just envious and I miss this feeling.

Does today's victory look like a big splash? Pegula's Top5 scalp is a good one to have I think. Daria heard our prayers.
Anyway the final could be winnable too. Remember the Paolini's victory over exhausted Kalinskaya.

Madrid main draw just dropped and Daria is in the Ryba's quarter. Here is what can be considered as a good win. But of course I was meaning of Iga's and Aryna's scalps. OK, only Aryna's, haha. Call me a dreamer, but I don't think she isn't capable of beating her. Clay is Dasha's native surface, so...
This is just my fan strategy for the pre-top players (WTA 15-25). Matches against regular nonamers isn't worth watching, I think. Star battles matter. I'm not forcing this on anyone, of course.
So in Madrid she could play with Martic, Pavs, Kalinina, all of them are the clayers. Dangerous, but good for growing confidence. Wish Daria good luck.

[Guest]

There is a lot of interesting info in her huge interview to the Russian sports media Championat. Many answers to your questions, anons. Stuttgart, Top10 talks, goals and ambitions, playing/not playing doubles, Cippola vs Martinez, etc. Anyone who blessed with AI translation can enjoy it.

[Guest]

link https://www.championat.com/tennis/artic ... piade.html

DA

[Guest]

[Guest]

Dasha is having a great season because she wins all her close matches, all the close sets, tiebreakers, everything. It's so interesting to see after 2023 when she literally lost ALL close sets.

This year she won the final sets tiebreaks aginst Pegula and Haddad Maia. Here in Madrid, she came back from 2-5 in the 2nd set in the 1st round and now won both close sets against Nastia. Her only losses are matches where she is clearly outplayed by the opponent.

She is in the top10 now on the Race.

[Guest]

She said she talked to Iga about the vlog! This is amazing.

[Guest]

I think Lina lives in Madrid. As a tennis fan, is she going to watch tennis live at the tournament? Or will she avoid Daria?
Do you think she and Natalia dislike each other?

[Guest]

I hope she will have a good draw at Roland Garros. She might have a good run again.

[Guest]

Barcelona fan Dasha:

[Guest]

Rome and Roland Garros are the best slow clay surfaces for her. I really hope she will have a good draw, she is in a good form.

[Guest]

I want her to finally win a big tournament. With a good draw and luck she can reach the RG semifinal.

Also completely off topic but i noticed that Rybakina's Russian best friend is dating some Mexican woman for several years now.
They have couple tik toks and stuff. I randomly found it today.
This girl

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