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So interesting to me how her accent has evolved over the last few years. Ellie’s has too. Both are much softer versions of what they were before. Like you can tell Daan is Dutch but it’s not so intense, the same way you can tell Ellie’s Australian but it’s not as heavy now. It’s likely a combo of softening it so they are easier to understand since many of their teammates are French/predominantly speak French, learning French themselves, and living with each other so adopting some of each others tendencies
Daan is also a lot more confident when she speaks English now. I remember their DAZN interview in 2022 she was struggling to say some words (marsupial was one lol) and instead of pressuring her Ellie patiently waited while she sounded it out and repeated the word back to her. You’d naturally pick up tendencies that way. Daan def has an Aussie twang now lol it’s cute. Ellie’s has evolved too and when you consider that she’s learning Dutch as well as French it makes sense that it is kind of melting together a bit. How dedicated she has been to learning that language has been so sweet. It’s a tough one to learn but she jumped right in
By the way, that is another tell tale indicator at least, not to say sign, that people "spend much time together or have had meaningful (to them) conversations over a period of time, when their accents become similar. Another example of this would be (since Danielle van de Donk was just mentioned) Miedema who just sounded like Scottish Lisa Evans after all those years. But hey, who in Europe says marsupial everyday since they are only to be found in zoos up here).
Miedema's Scottish accent will never not be funny to me (I think she didn't speak great english when she met her ex and that is why her accent is so strong now).
I have noticed Ellie's accent has softened quite a bit these last couple of years. She used to sound (and I mean no disrespect) like an absolute bogan. I suppose spending your days with people form whom english is not their first language you would naturally learn to speak in a more "neutral" accent.
Two things:
1. The "OL accent" is actually across the OL team or at the very least players who have been there +2 seasons. I think it's partly because OL imposes mandatory French lessons for their international players (for good cause - learn the local language!), and because of that the accent naturally becomes more diluted. Even subconsciously your brain starts to pick up the cadence of the second language and because of that, the intonation of your primary language begins to change. Your brain is literally adapting to its environment. #LinguisticsIsMyPassion
2. Daan and Ellie get a lot of hate (see the recent anon comments) but I think it really gets overlooked how much a relationship must mean to someone if they are willing to learn a completely different foreign language ... just because the person you like speaks it. Usually language is separated into categories: A is your primary language, B is your second language, C is your third, etc. For Ellie, obviously English is her first, so A language. French would - arguably - be her second, and that's just because she's been at OL longer than she has known Daan. The team also speaks French, she's living in France, all of that good stuff. But she deliberately chose to pick up a C language simply because Daan speaks it. There was no other reason for her to learn Dutch.
Like, Dutch isn't an easy language to learn. It's really not. But Ellie still learnt it, by choice, because Daan is Dutch, and so she knows that learning Dutch would mean a lot to Daan. Like if you think about it Ellie didn't have to learn Dutch because Daan already speaks English. But she still made a point to learn Dutch, and now is good enough in it that she can at the very least respond to written comments in it.
Everyone has their own way of showing they care. But learning a whole language for someone just because
you speak it? That's easily the most romantic shit someone can do for you, hands down.
Page catching and this is so touching. Ellie truly had no obligation to learn Dutch. Daan speaks English just fine.
She *chose* to learn for no other reason than simply because the person she loves speaks it. Not because it’s required for her job, not because Daan has a hard time with English (she doesn’t!), simply because Ellie loves her and cares about her and wanted to be able to speak her language. From early on too, she was learning in 2022 when they were newly together. That is the kind of love so many only dream about having
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So interesting to me how her accent has evolved over the last few years. Ellie’s has too. Both are much softer versions of what they were before. Like you can tell Daan is Dutch but it’s not so intense, the same way you can tell Ellie’s Australian but it’s not as heavy now. It’s likely a combo of softening it so they are easier to understand since many of their teammates are French/predominantly speak French, learning French themselves, and living with each other so adopting some of each others tendencies
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Daan is also a lot more confident when she speaks English now. I remember their DAZN interview in 2022 she was struggling to say some words (marsupial was one lol) and instead of pressuring her Ellie patiently waited while she sounded it out and repeated the word back to her. You’d naturally pick up tendencies that way. Daan def has an Aussie twang now lol it’s cute. Ellie’s has evolved too and when you consider that she’s learning Dutch as well as French it makes sense that it is kind of melting together a bit. How dedicated she has been to learning that language has been so sweet. It’s a tough one to learn but she jumped right in
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By the way, that is another tell tale indicator at least, not to say sign, that people "spend much time together or have had meaningful (to them) conversations over a period of time, when their accents become similar. Another example of this would be (since Danielle van de Donk was just mentioned) Miedema who just sounded like Scottish Lisa Evans after all those years. But hey, who in Europe says marsupial everyday since they are only to be found in zoos up here).
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Miedema's Scottish accent will never not be funny to me (I think she didn't speak great english when she met her ex and that is why her accent is so strong now).
I have noticed Ellie's accent has softened quite a bit these last couple of years. She used to sound (and I mean no disrespect) like an absolute bogan. I suppose spending your days with people form whom english is not their first language you would naturally learn to speak in a more "neutral" accent.
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Two things:
1. The "OL accent" is actually across the OL team or at the very least players who have been there +2 seasons. I think it's partly because OL imposes mandatory French lessons for their international players (for good cause - learn the local language!), and because of that the accent naturally becomes more diluted. Even subconsciously your brain starts to pick up the cadence of the second language and because of that, the intonation of your primary language begins to change. Your brain is literally adapting to its environment. #LinguisticsIsMyPassion
2. Daan and Ellie get a lot of hate (see the recent anon comments) but I think it really gets overlooked how much a relationship must mean to someone if they are willing to learn a completely different foreign language ... just because the person you like speaks it. Usually language is separated into categories: A is your primary language, B is your second language, C is your third, etc. For Ellie, obviously English is her first, so A language. French would - arguably - be her second, and that's just because she's been at OL longer than she has known Daan. The team also speaks French, she's living in France, all of that good stuff. But she deliberately chose to pick up a C language simply because Daan speaks it. There was no other reason for her to learn Dutch.
Like, Dutch isn't an easy language to learn. It's really not. But Ellie still learnt it, by choice, because Daan is Dutch, and so she knows that learning Dutch would mean a lot to Daan. Like if you think about it Ellie didn't have to learn Dutch because Daan already speaks English. But she still made a point to learn Dutch, and now is good enough in it that she can at the very least respond to written comments in it.
Everyone has their own way of showing they care. But learning a whole language for someone just because [I]you[/i] speak it? That's easily the most romantic shit someone can do for you, hands down.
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Page catching and this is so touching. Ellie truly had no obligation to learn Dutch. Daan speaks English just fine. [b]She *chose* to learn for no other reason than simply because the person she loves speaks it.[/b] Not because it’s required for her job, not because Daan has a hard time with English (she doesn’t!), simply because Ellie loves her and cares about her and wanted to be able to speak her language. From early on too, she was learning in 2022 when they were newly together. That is the kind of love so many only dream about having