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Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Today, 04:19

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Players go on about wanting to play in the Champions League because it shares its name with the men’s tournament so they feel it’s comparable, but in reality the women’s UCL is a shite competition.

Lyon and Barca are far better than everyone else because they both play in terrible domestic leagues with NO competition so they can put all their eggs in the UCL basket.

Whereas the WSL is more competitive so by the time English teams rock up for UCL they are knackered.

It flawed.

IMO womens football is best at an international level like the World cup and Euros. Club football is really only good at Barcelona and sometimes Lyon.
Eh, it's what you have to deal with in having the women's game continue to develop unevenly at varying rates across regional markets, but at the same time wanting to see the top European teams compete against each other.

I think the introduction of a women's Europa League will be fantastic.
Will you ever stop your Hayes-excusing Chelsea crying?

WSL teams have failed for more than a decade in Europe under Hayes and other coaches because, despite the vast amount of money and good players those WSL clubs have had at their disposal, their coaches have been average.

Hayes managed a solitary European final in 12 years at Chelsea. That in itself was a woeful failure. In that solitary final, her team was humiliated. That was an embarrassment.
wsl fans keep trying to equate winning the wsl same as uwcl or even greater than uwcl. i keep seeing chelsea fans acting like them winning wsl five times makes up for flopping in europe over and over. like they hype up the league trophy like it’s as good as winning uwcl while in reality wsls top 2-4 teams can’t even qualify regularly in cl group stages against same ranked teams of other leagues when the season starts so there is no fatigue excuse to cope to. wsl simply isn’t competitive in europe and are trying to turn their domestic league more important than european competition

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Today, 04:07

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I've read it, and I still dont think its that deep tbh. People were weird about Mariona picking certain numbers and acted like those numbers were untouchable, people replied with saying that Mariona should choose the number she wants because she has earned it by being a winner.
Da. Some people are just weird for no reason. Arsenal’s most famous number ever is 14, for Thierry Henry. And the women let a back up GK that they eventually didn't even re-sign wear it. It’s not that deep.
This is honestly so clear now that people just talk about what they want and don’t actually respond to what’s being said. Nothing I said there was about shirt numbers, it was about Arsenal fans really rating “Champions League Winners”
DA I read your post and it was not a good take.

Mariona stayed loyal to her club and literally contributed towards building that club into a UWCL championship winning team.

Your argument that Williamson et al aren't UWCL champions is because they stayed loyal to their club is fallacious. The reason they aren't UWCL champions is down to various contributing factors, including their management.

I wasn't planning on responding to your original post because there weren't any good takes to justify with a response. You insisted on being engaged with, so here you go.
I’m speaking about Arsenal specifically. Arsenal fans specifically. Obv staying loyal to a club doesn’t make you a loser, staying loyal to Arsenal does though. And to see Arsenal fans talk Mariona up because she’s a “Champions League Winner” when half of her club have that same talent and ability but didn’t get the same title because they stayed. I think it’s bad to prioritise that so much, value that so much
Arsenal fans are so delusional and mistake their obsession with these mediocre player as them being as good as world class champions league winning players. No one except kim little and 2018 viv is world class in your squad. most of them stay at arsenal cause they won’t start in any other top club and it’s proven by the fact when even arsenal drops them and they have it downgrade or bottom table clubs. Stop being stupid and acting like it’s wrong to praise a three time champions league winner or her coming to arsenal is not a clear downgrade for her. no one in the current squad is at that level.

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Today, 01:47

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I miss Niamh and LJ in the squad
it’s been like 2 games without them

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Today, 01:20

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The number 7 is so famous because of Manchester United. Interesting fact that George Best was the first player to become synonymous with a number and it’s been the iconic shirt of the right wing ever since - Eric Cantona, David Beckham, Cristiano Ronaldo, Ella Toone.
sharing because I laughed at myself:
I read this before catching up with the thread, and I thought "what the heck does this have to do with politics?"

it's late enough where I am, I should really go to sleep...

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:50

I miss Niamh and LJ in the squad

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:52

The number 7 is so famous because of Manchester United. Interesting fact that George Best was the first player to become synonymous with a number and it’s been the iconic shirt of the right wing ever since - Eric Cantona, David Beckham, Cristiano Ronaldo, Ella Toone.

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:48

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Yesterday, 19:27
Question about the numbers on the girls' shirts, I thought the number was assigned to a given player? Hemp always plays with number 11, Bronze with number 2, Walsh with 4 and Stanway with 8... but during the match against Sweden Clinton had number 10, and in the match against France Toone had number 10 (I think it was her number) how is that possible?
Shirt numbers for England correspond with positions, so:

1 = goalkeeper
2 = right back
3 = left back
4 = defensive midfield *
5 = center back
6 = center back*
7 = right wing
8 = central midfield
9 = striker
10 = attacking midfielder
11 = left wing

* Sometimes 4 & 6 are switched around.

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:42

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Players go on about wanting to play in the Champions League because it shares its name with the men’s tournament so they feel it’s comparable, but in reality the women’s UCL is a shite competition.

Lyon and Barca are far better than everyone else because they both play in terrible domestic leagues with NO competition so they can put all their eggs in the UCL basket.

Whereas the WSL is more competitive so by the time English teams rock up for UCL they are knackered.

It flawed.

IMO womens football is best at an international level like the World cup and Euros. Club football is really only good at Barcelona and sometimes Lyon.
Eh, it's what you have to deal with in having the women's game continue to develop unevenly at varying rates across regional markets, but at the same time wanting to see the top European teams compete against each other.

I think the introduction of a women's Europa League will be fantastic.
Will you ever stop your Hayes-excusing Chelsea crying?

WSL teams have failed for more than a decade in Europe under Hayes and other coaches because, despite the vast amount of money and good players those WSL clubs have had at their disposal, their coaches have been average.

Hayes managed a solitary European final in 12 years at Chelsea. That in itself was a woeful failure. In that solitary final, her team was humiliated. That was an embarrassment.

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 21:54

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Yesterday, 21:37
Players go on about wanting to play in the Champions League because it shares its name with the men’s tournament so they feel it’s comparable, but in reality the women’s UCL is a shite competition.

Lyon and Barca are far better than everyone else because they both play in terrible domestic leagues with NO competition so they can put all their eggs in the UCL basket.

Whereas the WSL is more competitive so by the time English teams rock up for UCL they are knackered.

It flawed.

IMO womens football is best at an international level like the World cup and Euros. Club football is really only good at Barcelona and sometimes Lyon.
Eh, it's what you have to deal with in having the women's game continue to develop unevenly at varying rates across regional markets, but at the same time wanting to see the top European teams compete against each other.

I think the introduction of a women's Europa League will be fantastic.

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 21:37

Players go on about wanting to play in the Champions League because it shares its name with the men’s tournament so they feel it’s comparable, but in reality the women’s UCL is a shite competition.

Lyon and Barca are far better than everyone else because they both play in terrible domestic leagues with NO competition so they can put all their eggs in the UCL basket.

Whereas the WSL is more competitive so by the time English teams rock up for UCL they are knackered.

It flawed.

IMO womens football is best at an international level like the World cup and Euros. Club football is really only good at Barcelona and sometimes Lyon.

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 21:27

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Yesterday, 21:11
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I've read it, and I still dont think its that deep tbh. People were weird about Mariona picking certain numbers and acted like those numbers were untouchable, people replied with saying that Mariona should choose the number she wants because she has earned it by being a winner.
Da. Some people are just weird for no reason. Arsenal’s most famous number ever is 14, for Thierry Henry. And the women let a back up GK that they eventually didn't even re-sign wear it. It’s not that deep.
This is honestly so clear now that people just talk about what they want and don’t actually respond to what’s being said. Nothing I said there was about shirt numbers, it was about Arsenal fans really rating “Champions League Winners”
DA I read your post and it was not a good take.

Mariona stayed loyal to her club and literally contributed towards building that club into a UWCL championship winning team.

Your argument that Williamson et al aren't UWCL champions is because they stayed loyal to their club is fallacious. The reason they aren't UWCL champions is down to various contributing factors, including their management.

I wasn't planning on responding to your original post because there weren't any good takes to justify with a response. You insisted on being engaged with, so here you go.
I’m speaking about Arsenal specifically. Arsenal fans specifically. Obv staying loyal to a club doesn’t make you a loser, staying loyal to Arsenal does though. And to see Arsenal fans talk Mariona up because she’s a “Champions League Winner” when half of her club have that same talent and ability but didn’t get the same title because they stayed. I think it’s bad to prioritise that so much, value that so much
It's fallacious to state that the Arsenal players aren't a factor into why they aren't as competitive in Champions League, or just their own national league even. Unless you know of any current Arsenal players who had offers to join Barça in the last 2 years, then no, they wouldn't be Champions League champions.

Viv is the only one, and she didn't stay for the club, she stayed for Beth.

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 21:11

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I really need you to read the first line of my comment
I've read it, and I still dont think its that deep tbh. People were weird about Mariona picking certain numbers and acted like those numbers were untouchable, people replied with saying that Mariona should choose the number she wants because she has earned it by being a winner.
Da. Some people are just weird for no reason. Arsenal’s most famous number ever is 14, for Thierry Henry. And the women let a back up GK that they eventually didn't even re-sign wear it. It’s not that deep.
This is honestly so clear now that people just talk about what they want and don’t actually respond to what’s being said. Nothing I said there was about shirt numbers, it was about Arsenal fans really rating “Champions League Winners”
DA I read your post and it was not a good take.

Mariona stayed loyal to her club and literally contributed towards building that club into a UWCL championship winning team.

Your argument that Williamson et al aren't UWCL champions is because they stayed loyal to their club is fallacious. The reason they aren't UWCL champions is down to various contributing factors, including their management.

I wasn't planning on responding to your original post because there weren't any good takes to justify with a response. You insisted on being engaged with, so here you go.
I’m speaking about Arsenal specifically. Arsenal fans specifically. Obv staying loyal to a club doesn’t make you a loser, staying loyal to Arsenal does though. And to see Arsenal fans talk Mariona up because she’s a “Champions League Winner” when half of her club have that same talent and ability but didn’t get the same title because they stayed. I think it’s bad to prioritise that so much, value that so much

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:41

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Yesterday, 20:25
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Yesterday, 20:19
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I really need you to read the first line of my comment
I've read it, and I still dont think its that deep tbh. People were weird about Mariona picking certain numbers and acted like those numbers were untouchable, people replied with saying that Mariona should choose the number she wants because she has earned it by being a winner.
Da. Some people are just weird for no reason. Arsenal’s most famous number ever is 14, for Thierry Henry. And the women let a back up GK that they eventually didn't even re-sign wear it. It’s not that deep.
This is honestly so clear now that people just talk about what they want and don’t actually respond to what’s being said. Nothing I said there was about shirt numbers, it was about Arsenal fans really rating “Champions League Winners”
DA I read your post and it was not a good take.

Mariona stayed loyal to her club and literally contributed towards building that club into a UWCL championship winning team.

Your argument that Williamson et al aren't UWCL champions is because they stayed loyal to their club is fallacious. The reason they aren't UWCL champions is down to various contributing factors, including their management.

I wasn't planning on responding to your original post because there weren't any good takes to justify with a response. You insisted on being engaged with, so here you go.
Agreed. Let’s get rid of Williamson, Walti, Foord, McCabe and Mead. Bring in some real players, some real champions league winners with pedigree. Give them whatever they want. They have that winning mentality after all

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:25

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Its just a shirt number? People have been saying to get Mariona the shirt she wants in response to some people saying she shouldnt get 8 or 11.
Both numbers are free, people saying Mariona shouldnt get the 8/11 are weird
I really need you to read the first line of my comment
I've read it, and I still dont think its that deep tbh. People were weird about Mariona picking certain numbers and acted like those numbers were untouchable, people replied with saying that Mariona should choose the number she wants because she has earned it by being a winner.
Da. Some people are just weird for no reason. Arsenal’s most famous number ever is 14, for Thierry Henry. And the women let a back up GK that they eventually didn't even re-sign wear it. It’s not that deep.
This is honestly so clear now that people just talk about what they want and don’t actually respond to what’s being said. Nothing I said there was about shirt numbers, it was about Arsenal fans really rating “Champions League Winners”
DA I read your post and it was not a good take.

Mariona stayed loyal to her club and literally contributed towards building that club into a UWCL championship winning team.

Your argument that Williamson et al aren't UWCL champions is because they stayed loyal to their club is fallacious. The reason they aren't UWCL champions is down to various contributing factors, including their management.

I wasn't planning on responding to your original post because there weren't any good takes to justify with a response. You insisted on being engaged with, so here you go.

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:19

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Yesterday, 19:27
Question about the numbers on the girls' shirts, I thought the number was assigned to a given player? Hemp always plays with number 11, Bronze with number 2, Walsh with 4 and Stanway with 8... but during the match against Sweden Clinton had number 10, and in the match against France Toone had number 10 (I think it was her number) how is that possible?
England don’t have set assigned numbers for regular camps. They like to have their starting XI wearing 1-11, so they’ll assign those numbers on the day to who is starting. Bronze always has 2 because she’s always starting, same with Hemp. If Bronze was benched, then whoever played in her position would get the 2. Same way Clinton had the 10 when she started, and then Toone had it when she started.

Only time this changes is when they’ve got an actual tournament, like the Euros or the WC.

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by Guest » Yesterday, 20:19

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I don’t care to get involved in the Arsenal shirt number discourse but I do think it’s worth talking about the Arsenal fans saying things like “she is a champions league winner etc, give her whatever she wants.” I think it’s so disrespectful to their own players. All Arsenal players had the potential to win big things and play at more successful clubs but you know why a lot of the Arsenal greats don’t have champions leagues? Cause they stayed loyal to your club! Then acting like Mariona is amazing because she has all that. The narrative is so weird. There’s a reason why your Leah Williamson, Lia Walti, Katie McCabe, Beth Mead, Viv Miedema, Caitlin Foord, Kim Little, Jordan Nobbs crew don’t have any accolades to sing about??? They stayed loyal to your club! All of them had the potential to do more and win more and go somewhere else. Now Mariona is getting all this praise for winning everything then jumping into Arsenal when she wants to spend time with her girlfriend and get some fans?
Its just a shirt number? People have been saying to get Mariona the shirt she wants in response to some people saying she shouldnt get 8 or 11.
Both numbers are free, people saying Mariona shouldnt get the 8/11 are weird
I really need you to read the first line of my comment
I've read it, and I still dont think its that deep tbh. People were weird about Mariona picking certain numbers and acted like those numbers were untouchable, people replied with saying that Mariona should choose the number she wants because she has earned it by being a winner.
Da. Some people are just weird for no reason. Arsenal’s most famous number ever is 14, for Thierry Henry. And the women let a back up GK that they eventually didn't even re-sign wear it. It’s not that deep.
This is honestly so clear now that people just talk about what they want and don’t actually respond to what’s being said. Nothing I said there was about shirt numbers, it was about Arsenal fans really rating “Champions League Winners”

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:17

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I don’t care to get involved in the Arsenal shirt number discourse but I do think it’s worth talking about the Arsenal fans saying things like “she is a champions league winner etc, give her whatever she wants.” I think it’s so disrespectful to their own players. All Arsenal players had the potential to win big things and play at more successful clubs but you know why a lot of the Arsenal greats don’t have champions leagues? Cause they stayed loyal to your club! Then acting like Mariona is amazing because she has all that. The narrative is so weird. There’s a reason why your Leah Williamson, Lia Walti, Katie McCabe, Beth Mead, Viv Miedema, Caitlin Foord, Kim Little, Jordan Nobbs crew don’t have any accolades to sing about??? They stayed loyal to your club! All of them had the potential to do more and win more and go somewhere else. Now Mariona is getting all this praise for winning everything then jumping into Arsenal when she wants to spend time with her girlfriend and get some fans?
Its just a shirt number? People have been saying to get Mariona the shirt she wants in response to some people saying she shouldnt get 8 or 11.
Both numbers are free, people saying Mariona shouldnt get the 8/11 are weird
I really need you to read the first line of my comment
I've read it, and I still dont think its that deep tbh. People were weird about Mariona picking certain numbers and acted like those numbers were untouchable, people replied with saying that Mariona should choose the number she wants because she has earned it by being a winner.
Da. Some people are just weird for no reason. Arsenal’s most famous number ever is 14, for Thierry Henry. And the women let a back up GK that they eventually didn't even re-sign wear it. It’s not that deep.

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:16

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I don’t care to get involved in the Arsenal shirt number discourse but I do think it’s worth talking about the Arsenal fans saying things like “she is a champions league winner etc, give her whatever she wants.” I think it’s so disrespectful to their own players. All Arsenal players had the potential to win big things and play at more successful clubs but you know why a lot of the Arsenal greats don’t have champions leagues? Cause they stayed loyal to your club! Then acting like Mariona is amazing because she has all that. The narrative is so weird. There’s a reason why your Leah Williamson, Lia Walti, Katie McCabe, Beth Mead, Viv Miedema, Caitlin Foord, Kim Little, Jordan Nobbs crew don’t have any accolades to sing about??? They stayed loyal to your club! All of them had the potential to do more and win more and go somewhere else. Now Mariona is getting all this praise for winning everything then jumping into Arsenal when she wants to spend time with her girlfriend and get some fans?
Its just a shirt number? People have been saying to get Mariona the shirt she wants in response to some people saying she shouldnt get 8 or 11.
Both numbers are free, people saying Mariona shouldnt get the 8/11 are weird
I really need you to read the first line of my comment
I've read it, and I still dont think its that deep tbh. People were weird about Mariona picking certain numbers and acted like those numbers were untouchable, people replied with saying that Mariona should choose the number she wants because she has earned it by being a winner.
Yeah I’m not getting into shirt number stuff.

I was just talking about the justification of give her what she wants because she’s a champions league winner. Prioritising that above other things. Seems disrespectful to their own players that they value that so highly? And none have come close to that because they stay at their club

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:14

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Yesterday, 20:12
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Yesterday, 20:09
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I don’t care to get involved in the Arsenal shirt number discourse but I do think it’s worth talking about the Arsenal fans saying things like “she is a champions league winner etc, give her whatever she wants.” I think it’s so disrespectful to their own players. All Arsenal players had the potential to win big things and play at more successful clubs but you know why a lot of the Arsenal greats don’t have champions leagues? Cause they stayed loyal to your club! Then acting like Mariona is amazing because she has all that. The narrative is so weird. There’s a reason why your Leah Williamson, Lia Walti, Katie McCabe, Beth Mead, Viv Miedema, Caitlin Foord, Kim Little, Jordan Nobbs crew don’t have any accolades to sing about??? They stayed loyal to your club! All of them had the potential to do more and win more and go somewhere else. Now Mariona is getting all this praise for winning everything then jumping into Arsenal when she wants to spend time with her girlfriend and get some fans?
Its just a shirt number? People have been saying to get Mariona the shirt she wants in response to some people saying she shouldnt get 8 or 11.
Both numbers are free, people saying Mariona shouldnt get the 8/11 are weird
I really need you to read the first line of my comment
I've read it, and I still dont think its that deep tbh. People were weird about Mariona picking certain numbers and acted like those numbers were untouchable, people replied with saying that Mariona should choose the number she wants because she has earned it by being a winner.

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:12

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:09
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:01
I don’t care to get involved in the Arsenal shirt number discourse but I do think it’s worth talking about the Arsenal fans saying things like “she is a champions league winner etc, give her whatever she wants.” I think it’s so disrespectful to their own players. All Arsenal players had the potential to win big things and play at more successful clubs but you know why a lot of the Arsenal greats don’t have champions leagues? Cause they stayed loyal to your club! Then acting like Mariona is amazing because she has all that. The narrative is so weird. There’s a reason why your Leah Williamson, Lia Walti, Katie McCabe, Beth Mead, Viv Miedema, Caitlin Foord, Kim Little, Jordan Nobbs crew don’t have any accolades to sing about??? They stayed loyal to your club! All of them had the potential to do more and win more and go somewhere else. Now Mariona is getting all this praise for winning everything then jumping into Arsenal when she wants to spend time with her girlfriend and get some fans?
Its just a shirt number? People have been saying to get Mariona the shirt she wants in response to some people saying she shouldnt get 8 or 11.
Both numbers are free, people saying Mariona shouldnt get the 8/11 are weird
I really need you to read the first line of my comment

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:09

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Yesterday, 20:01
I don’t care to get involved in the Arsenal shirt number discourse but I do think it’s worth talking about the Arsenal fans saying things like “she is a champions league winner etc, give her whatever she wants.” I think it’s so disrespectful to their own players. All Arsenal players had the potential to win big things and play at more successful clubs but you know why a lot of the Arsenal greats don’t have champions leagues? Cause they stayed loyal to your club! Then acting like Mariona is amazing because she has all that. The narrative is so weird. There’s a reason why your Leah Williamson, Lia Walti, Katie McCabe, Beth Mead, Viv Miedema, Caitlin Foord, Kim Little, Jordan Nobbs crew don’t have any accolades to sing about??? They stayed loyal to your club! All of them had the potential to do more and win more and go somewhere else. Now Mariona is getting all this praise for winning everything then jumping into Arsenal when she wants to spend time with her girlfriend and get some fans?
Its just a shirt number? People have been saying to get Mariona the shirt she wants in response to some people saying she shouldnt get 8 or 11.
Both numbers are free, people saying Mariona shouldnt get the 8/11 are weird

Re: English Football Ladies

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:01

I don’t care to get involved in the Arsenal shirt number discourse but I do think it’s worth talking about the Arsenal fans saying things like “she is a champions league winner etc, give her whatever she wants.” I think it’s so disrespectful to their own players. All Arsenal players had the potential to win big things and play at more successful clubs but you know why a lot of the Arsenal greats don’t have champions leagues? Cause they stayed loyal to your club! Then acting like Mariona is amazing because she has all that. The narrative is so weird. There’s a reason why your Leah Williamson, Lia Walti, Katie McCabe, Beth Mead, Viv Miedema, Caitlin Foord, Kim Little, Jordan Nobbs crew don’t have any accolades to sing about??? They stayed loyal to your club! All of them had the potential to do more and win more and go somewhere else. Now Mariona is getting all this praise for winning everything then jumping into Arsenal when she wants to spend time with her girlfriend and get some fans?

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by Guest » Yesterday, 19:53

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I wonder if things like this factor into a players decision when picking a club. Like you look at the club and you think maybe they’re doing well in the league, but they’re not valued whatsoever by the men’s team and by the higher ups, and if it comes down to it they’ll cut you out to save themselves. Would the knowledge of that factor into someone’s choice to play there, or would they rather play at a club that’s doing just as well, if not better, but is actually (somewhat) valued and respected by the overall club.
depends how much the lack of respect is inflicting on the club ig.
e.g. is it resulting in them not being able to pay for players and to do certain things. or is it just something behind the scenes that’s there but not really something that’s causing any influence.
still i think i’d personally play for a club that values it’s team and therefore me as an extension of that team. i just think the morale would be better then relationships and respect is good bts.
DA Man City is a ghastly club and everybody has known it for years, even if they weren't saying so aloud. If players are joining the women's team despite knowing this then I can't imagine said players gave much of a shit about whether the gloss and whitewash of what goes on there would extend to their own work days because who in their right mind sees a club patently operating as a sham and thinks 'I bet things are great behind the veil'. Sign for City and you know what you're getting isn't as advertised, you just choose to overlook that because the wages drop into your bank account when they're supposed to and you'll have the chance to win a couple trophies that you can use to tell yourself it was a career well spent. Sad thing is, there will still be a line of players queuing up to sign for them even today, even when the extent of how rotten the club is has been truly exposed and even the women's team is being used as a toy to throw out of the pram.
PREACH. The human rights abuses committed on women and LGBT folk in UAE by City’s billionaire Sheik owner is atrocious.

Then add the financial doping, 125 charges, corruption, fake sponsorships and how they have RUINED Manchester as a City with their awfully made cheap looking “luxury” glass buildings everywhere that make Manchester look like Shanghai 😡

Man City have been terrible to Manchester as a place. Ask anyone who isn’t seeing through blue tinted glasses. They have fucked entire areas of the City and driven working class people out

I hope the club gets liquidated

You have never been to Shanghai. Not every building there r cheaply made. Try another city in China

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For sure. But they’ve already shown they don’t value the women that much, so I doubt this will have even been a thought in their minds whatsoever.
I wonder if things like this factor into a players decision when picking a club. Like you look at the club and you think maybe they’re doing well in the league, but they’re not valued whatsoever by the men’s team and by the higher ups, and if it comes down to it they’ll cut you out to save themselves. Would the knowledge of that factor into someone’s choice to play there, or would they rather play at a club that’s doing just as well, if not better, but is actually (somewhat) valued and respected by the overall club.
depends how much the lack of respect is inflicting on the club ig.
e.g. is it resulting in them not being able to pay for players and to do certain things. or is it just something behind the scenes that’s there but not really something that’s causing any influence.
still i think i’d personally play for a club that values it’s team and therefore me as an extension of that team. i just think the morale would be better then relationships and respect is good bts.
DA Man City is a ghastly club and everybody has known it for years, even if they weren't saying so aloud. If players are joining the women's team despite knowing this then I can't imagine said players gave much of a shit about whether the gloss and whitewash of what goes on there would extend to their own work days because who in their right mind sees a club patently operating as a sham and thinks 'I bet things are great behind the veil'. Sign for City and you know what you're getting isn't as advertised, you just choose to overlook that because the wages drop into your bank account when they're supposed to and you'll have the chance to win a couple trophies that you can use to tell yourself it was a career well spent. Sad thing is, there will still be a line of players queuing up to sign for them even today, even when the extent of how rotten the club is has been truly exposed and even the women's team is being used as a toy to throw out of the pram.
PREACH. The human rights abuses committed on women and LGBT folk in UAE by City’s billionaire Sheik owner is atrocious.

Then add the financial doping, 125 charges, corruption, fake sponsorships and how they have RUINED Manchester as a City with their awfully made cheap looking “luxury” glass buildings everywhere that make Manchester look like Shanghai 😡

Man City have been terrible to Manchester as a place. Ask anyone who isn’t seeing through blue tinted glasses. They have fucked entire areas of the City and driven working class people out

I hope the club gets liquidated
Love this post.

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Question about the numbers on the girls' shirts, I thought the number was assigned to a given player? Hemp always plays with number 11, Bronze with number 2, Walsh with 4 and Stanway with 8... but during the match against Sweden Clinton had number 10, and in the match against France Toone had number 10 (I think it was her number) how is that possible?
Some national teams assign numbers to a player until that player retires, eg. USWNT. Some other national teams, like England, assign numbers based on playing positions on the field for that game. Hemp is usually 11 and Bronze is usually 2 because they both usually start in those positions.

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Question about the numbers on the girls' shirts, I thought the number was assigned to a given player? Hemp always plays with number 11, Bronze with number 2, Walsh with 4 and Stanway with 8... but during the match against Sweden Clinton had number 10, and in the match against France Toone had number 10 (I think it was her number) how is that possible?

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Strong rumours Viv may go to the other side of Manchester now. Apparently she was spotted at he training facilities. I think she also was a childhood Man United fan?
She's a Liverpool fan. No idea if she switched allegiance somewhere along the way growing up, but she is very much a Liverpool fan and doesn't bother hiding it. Not that she seems the type to let such things dictate her career moves.
viv in liverpool and with more investment they can qualify for cl in a season or two, especially if both united and city are in shambles. liverpools main problem is lack of investment and therefore inability to buy high quality players that will be difference makers. too bad united hijacked hinanta to liverpool deal cause i think both her and liverpool would benefit more if she went there
I am not sure if Hinata regretted joining Utd instead of Liverpool. Nagano started in almost every match and Hinata warmed the bench. I suspect she's a Utd fan hence she joined Utd.
Yup shit owners who refused to spend and they have a good manager in Beard
Hinata was getting good minutes before she fractured her ankle and then she only returned within a month of the season ending. She also won an FA Cup so she's probably alright with her choice of club. Haven't seen any evidence of her being a United fan.

Liverpool's owners having an aversion to spending is a reason for less investment but it shouldn't be an excuse. They could easily attract some bigger names via monetary incentives, and they should. Grow the game and all that.
Both clubs paying about the same wages. In Liverpool she has Nagano . Unless she thinks Utd has a better chance of winning the league, I wonder why she decided to change her mind and sign off Utd.

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finally got a chance to watch the France game from tuesday night. Just finished the first half. So glad Russo got her goal, she was brilliant!

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Surprising no team has come in for Viv for 2 weeks now. MC would have announced this already but no stories make me think there is no deal there. Very few teams will pay what she might want. She may have a problem getting a deal she wants.
Strong rumours Viv may go to the other side of Manchester now. Apparently she was spotted at he training facilities. I think she also was a childhood Man United fan?
She's a Liverpool fan. No idea if she switched allegiance somewhere along the way growing up, but she is very much a Liverpool fan and doesn't bother hiding it. Not that she seems the type to let such things dictate her career moves.
viv in liverpool and with more investment they can qualify for cl in a season or two, especially if both united and city are in shambles. liverpools main problem is lack of investment and therefore inability to buy high quality players that will be difference makers. too bad united hijacked hinanta to liverpool deal cause i think both her and liverpool would benefit more if she went there
I am not sure if Hinata regretted joining Utd instead of Liverpool. Nagano started in almost every match and Hinata warmed the bench. I suspect she's a Utd fan hence she joined Utd.
Yup shit owners who refused to spend and they have a good manager in Beard
Hinata was getting good minutes before she fractured her ankle and then she only returned within a month of the season ending. She also won an FA Cup so she's probably alright with her choice of club. Haven't seen any evidence of her being a United fan.

Liverpool's owners having an aversion to spending is a reason for less investment but it shouldn't be an excuse. They could easily attract some bigger names via monetary incentives, and they should. Grow the game and all that.

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But they don’t want her.
Surprising no team has come in for Viv for 2 weeks now. MC would have announced this already but no stories make me think there is no deal there. Very few teams will pay what she might want. She may have a problem getting a deal she wants.
Strong rumours Viv may go to the other side of Manchester now. Apparently she was spotted at he training facilities. I think she also was a childhood Man United fan?
She's a Liverpool fan. No idea if she switched allegiance somewhere along the way growing up, but she is very much a Liverpool fan and doesn't bother hiding it. Not that she seems the type to let such things dictate her career moves.
viv in liverpool and with more investment they can qualify for cl in a season or two, especially if both united and city are in shambles. liverpools main problem is lack of investment and therefore inability to buy high quality players that will be difference makers. too bad united hijacked hinanta to liverpool deal cause i think both her and liverpool would benefit more if she went there
Liverpool's problem isn't so much a lack of investment, it's more that the whole club operates on a model which only allows the spending of money that the club generates. Self-sufficiency, essentially. They won't throw cash into a black hole and they certainly won't load debt onto the club. For the women's team this means they will be running sensibly, with the financial losses kept as minimal as possible. If there ever came a day when the WSL's spending regulations did limit parent club handouts in whatever form, then Liverpool would take a far smaller hit than some. But the flip side is that players like Viv can't be signed until the budget has grown big enough to afford her wages and the budget can't grow big enough until table progression and trophies are being secured with a squad of players like Viv. It's not quite a catch 22 because sponsorship and TV revenue comes into play to help development efforts, but it does mean that development is a much slower process.

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But they don’t want her.
Surprising no team has come in for Viv for 2 weeks now. MC would have announced this already but no stories make me think there is no deal there. Very few teams will pay what she might want. She may have a problem getting a deal she wants.
Strong rumours Viv may go to the other side of Manchester now. Apparently she was spotted at he training facilities. I think she also was a childhood Man United fan?
She's a Liverpool fan. No idea if she switched allegiance somewhere along the way growing up, but she is very much a Liverpool fan and doesn't bother hiding it. Not that she seems the type to let such things dictate her career moves.
viv in liverpool and with more investment they can qualify for cl in a season or two, especially if both united and city are in shambles. liverpools main problem is lack of investment and therefore inability to buy high quality players that will be difference makers. too bad united hijacked hinanta to liverpool deal cause i think both her and liverpool would benefit more if she went there
I am not sure if Hinata regretted joining Utd instead of Liverpool. Nagano started in almost every match and Hinata warmed the bench. I suspect she's a Utd fan hence she joined Utd.
Yup shit owners who refused to spend and they have a good manager in Beard

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But they don’t want her.
Surprising no team has come in for Viv for 2 weeks now. MC would have announced this already but no stories make me think there is no deal there. Very few teams will pay what she might want. She may have a problem getting a deal she wants.
Strong rumours Viv may go to the other side of Manchester now. Apparently she was spotted at he training facilities. I think she also was a childhood Man United fan?
She's a Liverpool fan. No idea if she switched allegiance somewhere along the way growing up, but she is very much a Liverpool fan and doesn't bother hiding it. Not that she seems the type to let such things dictate her career moves.
viv in liverpool and with more investment they can qualify for cl in a season or two, especially if both united and city are in shambles. liverpools main problem is lack of investment and therefore inability to buy high quality players that will be difference makers. too bad united hijacked hinanta to liverpool deal cause i think both her and liverpool would benefit more if she went there
She’s really not going to Utd, all the rumours have been about City and she talked in the DAZN about wanting CL football. You’re not going to go to Utd if you want CL football even if you’re gf is a childhood fan (since when was that a reason to join a club?!)

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I’m hearing the whole back room of the City women’s team are leaving !!! It’s a mess up North. Vivi should come back to the Arseanal
But they don’t want her.
Surprising no team has come in for Viv for 2 weeks now. MC would have announced this already but no stories make me think there is no deal there. Very few teams will pay what she might want. She may have a problem getting a deal she wants.
Strong rumours Viv may go to the other side of Manchester now. Apparently she was spotted at he training facilities. I think she also was a childhood Man United fan?
She's a Liverpool fan. No idea if she switched allegiance somewhere along the way growing up, but she is very much a Liverpool fan and doesn't bother hiding it. Not that she seems the type to let such things dictate her career moves.
viv in liverpool and with more investment they can qualify for cl in a season or two, especially if both united and city are in shambles. liverpools main problem is lack of investment and therefore inability to buy high quality players that will be difference makers. too bad united hijacked hinanta to liverpool deal cause i think both her and liverpool would benefit more if she went there

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da. oh right yeah, completely forgot she was going too. are there any other departures that could happen this summer? i wonder if a bunch of them are trying to get out now.
The women's team is the only shred of credibility that lying, cheating excuse for a football club has.
There's been a distinct lack of coverage and push back from women's football media about the digusting way City are trying to shame the PL into not going forward with the charges.

I hate to do the 'imagine if it was other Club X saying this' thing but really, imagine it was United in this position and they were explicitly saying they'd basically drop the women's team if they faced any sort of punishment for their wrongdoings. All the journalists would have their opinion pieces at the ready and would be amplifying the message ten-fold. Even the news about Nielsen and staff leaving has been presented as-is with no follow-up.
Bizarre sort of protection City gets.
DA Women's football has a nasty habit of underreporting the stuff that takes any shine off public perceptions of the sport doing brilliantly. It also has a nasty habit of bigging itself up as a moral compass but then being shamefully hypocritical if the mood suits. Remember all that objection to Saudi sponsorship of the World Cup? The same people jump to write puff pieces praising Newcastle's attendances. You can bet they're all salivating in anticipation of the day that club gets into the WSL, there will be so many headlines about records being smashed and welcome investment and absolutely none about what the Saudi's are still doing to women and activists who dare ally themselves.

Until yesterday, hardly any journalist or pundit or whatever were calling out City's actions. Only about four or five were actually doing their job and calling a spade a spade. The rest were being cowardly brown nosers. The tide has turned now but there are Johnny-come-latelys everywhere. The women's football journos will be arriving even later, if they do at all. Never seen one of them draw a link between the status of City's women's team and the club's methods of operation, and I very much doubt any will now start questioning if that team should be where it is or what happens to the WSL & women's football on the whole if City are left free to carry on with their cheating. Just like none of them will start writing articles about what Newcastle's women's team is really all about. Just like none of them wrote articles about what bankrolled Chelsea's trophy haul, though nobody at all touched this club until Ukraine getting invaded made it okay to discuss all things Russia.
Sanders, Batte, Garry et al. counting down the days until Earps leaves United for free so then they really have something to sink their teeth into and write about.
Sorry for the levity, just seems like the (at times rightful) pile on of United is never matched in other clubs. Things really aren't all that peachy in a lot of WSL clubs.
I remember someone once doing a 'state of the WSL' hit piece where they ripped into every club pointing out the biggest shames. 90% of it was either unsubstantiated or outdated in that the clubs had already improved conditions long before the article was cobbled together.

The thing with journalism and women's football in England is that it comes in two distinct flavours: you get the articles from the 'favourable bubble' lot, who see it as their job to help promote the game rather than expose its failings, and then you get the naysayer journos, who only ever write negative articles exposing the failings for the sake of being able to shit on women's sport.

With the former, sometimes players will be so high profile or issues so great that they just have to draw attention to a bad story, it's unavoidable. They won't enjoy making someone look unfavourable but the articles have to be written. United fall into this unfortunate area, it's the downside to having senior England internationals in your team.

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They claim the current rules are anti competitive and make it too hard but also claim they’re following the rules and have still won 6 out of 7 so which is it? They’re lying about everything and it will only affect the women out of pure greed, not actual financial issues. They’re owned by an oil nation state and just want a free pass to pump in as much money as they want with no restrictions.
I’m hearing the whole back room of the City women’s team are leaving !!! It’s a mess up North. Vivi should come back to the Arseanal
But they don’t want her.
Surprising no team has come in for Viv for 2 weeks now. MC would have announced this already but no stories make me think there is no deal there. Very few teams will pay what she might want. She may have a problem getting a deal she wants.
Strong rumours Viv may go to the other side of Manchester now. Apparently she was spotted at he training facilities. I think she also was a childhood Man United fan?
She's a Liverpool fan. No idea if she switched allegiance somewhere along the way growing up, but she is very much a Liverpool fan and doesn't bother hiding it. Not that she seems the type to let such things dictate her career moves.

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Kinda funny that Viv never got along with Jonas and yet she’s rumoured to be going to either Manchester club, either with Skinner who is incompetent or with Taylor who majority of City players/ex-City players seem not to like whatsoever.

Also that she’s always been vocal criticising when Arsenal don’t put effort into the women’s team and aren’t equal. And yet Manchester United will happily throw the women under the bus with certain things and they’re not exactly given 100% equal things either. And City have literally said they’d cut the women’s team ties if it was best for the men, and it’s possible that anyone under that term of Manchester City could lose European football because City men may join the Super League.
i like viv but i think city bts are going to hate her eventually. with the mess they’re in right now, they need to seem together and unified from the inside. but viv has never exactly been the type to stay quiet, and she’s always vocalising (and publicly) her complaints about how a club is run, a manager, etc.

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Kinda funny that Viv never got along with Jonas and yet she’s rumoured to be going to either Manchester club, either with Skinner who is incompetent or with Taylor who majority of City players/ex-City players seem not to like whatsoever.

Also that she’s always been vocal criticising when Arsenal don’t put effort into the women’s team and aren’t equal. And yet Manchester United will happily throw the women under the bus with certain things and they’re not exactly given 100% equal things either. And City have literally said they’d cut the women’s team ties if it was best for the men, and it’s possible that anyone under that term of Manchester City could lose European football because City men may join the Super League.

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They claim the current rules are anti competitive and make it too hard but also claim they’re following the rules and have still won 6 out of 7 so which is it? They’re lying about everything and it will only affect the women out of pure greed, not actual financial issues. They’re owned by an oil nation state and just want a free pass to pump in as much money as they want with no restrictions.
I’m hearing the whole back room of the City women’s team are leaving !!! It’s a mess up North. Vivi should come back to the Arseanal
But they don’t want her.
Surprising no team has come in for Viv for 2 weeks now. MC would have announced this already but no stories make me think there is no deal there. Very few teams will pay what she might want. She may have a problem getting a deal she wants.
Viv is still contracted to Arsenal until the end of the month. The WSL transfer window opens on 24th of June. I'm sure her agent will be busy behind the scenes, but clubs can't make any announcements until then.
Would be funny if both Viv and Shimizu did not end up in City

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CK too this summer
da. oh right yeah, completely forgot she was going too. are there any other departures that could happen this summer? i wonder if a bunch of them are trying to get out now.
The women's team is the only shred of credibility that lying, cheating excuse for a football club has.
There's been a distinct lack of coverage and push back from women's football media about the digusting way City are trying to shame the PL into not going forward with the charges.

I hate to do the 'imagine if it was other Club X saying this' thing but really, imagine it was United in this position and they were explicitly saying they'd basically drop the women's team if they faced any sort of punishment for their wrongdoings. All the journalists would have their opinion pieces at the ready and would be amplifying the message ten-fold. Even the news about Nielsen and staff leaving has been presented as-is with no follow-up.
Bizarre sort of protection City gets.
DA Women's football has a nasty habit of underreporting the stuff that takes any shine off public perceptions of the sport doing brilliantly. It also has a nasty habit of bigging itself up as a moral compass but then being shamefully hypocritical if the mood suits. Remember all that objection to Saudi sponsorship of the World Cup? The same people jump to write puff pieces praising Newcastle's attendances. You can bet they're all salivating in anticipation of the day that club gets into the WSL, there will be so many headlines about records being smashed and welcome investment and absolutely none about what the Saudi's are still doing to women and activists who dare ally themselves.

Until yesterday, hardly any journalist or pundit or whatever were calling out City's actions. Only about four or five were actually doing their job and calling a spade a spade. The rest were being cowardly brown nosers. The tide has turned now but there are Johnny-come-latelys everywhere. The women's football journos will be arriving even later, if they do at all. Never seen one of them draw a link between the status of City's women's team and the club's methods of operation, and I very much doubt any will now start questioning if that team should be where it is or what happens to the WSL & women's football on the whole if City are left free to carry on with their cheating. Just like none of them will start writing articles about what Newcastle's women's team is really all about. Just like none of them wrote articles about what bankrolled Chelsea's trophy haul, though nobody at all touched this club until Ukraine getting invaded made it okay to discuss all things Russia.
Bingo!!

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CK too this summer
da. oh right yeah, completely forgot she was going too. are there any other departures that could happen this summer? i wonder if a bunch of them are trying to get out now.
The women's team is the only shred of credibility that lying, cheating excuse for a football club has.
There's been a distinct lack of coverage and push back from women's football media about the digusting way City are trying to shame the PL into not going forward with the charges.

I hate to do the 'imagine if it was other Club X saying this' thing but really, imagine it was United in this position and they were explicitly saying they'd basically drop the women's team if they faced any sort of punishment for their wrongdoings. All the journalists would have their opinion pieces at the ready and would be amplifying the message ten-fold. Even the news about Nielsen and staff leaving has been presented as-is with no follow-up.
Bizarre sort of protection City gets.
DA Women's football has a nasty habit of underreporting the stuff that takes any shine off public perceptions of the sport doing brilliantly. It also has a nasty habit of bigging itself up as a moral compass but then being shamefully hypocritical if the mood suits. Remember all that objection to Saudi sponsorship of the World Cup? The same people jump to write puff pieces praising Newcastle's attendances. You can bet they're all salivating in anticipation of the day that club gets into the WSL, there will be so many headlines about records being smashed and welcome investment and absolutely none about what the Saudi's are still doing to women and activists who dare ally themselves.

Until yesterday, hardly any journalist or pundit or whatever were calling out City's actions. Only about four or five were actually doing their job and calling a spade a spade. The rest were being cowardly brown nosers. The tide has turned now but there are Johnny-come-latelys everywhere. The women's football journos will be arriving even later, if they do at all. Never seen one of them draw a link between the status of City's women's team and the club's methods of operation, and I very much doubt any will now start questioning if that team should be where it is or what happens to the WSL & women's football on the whole if City are left free to carry on with their cheating. Just like none of them will start writing articles about what Newcastle's women's team is really all about. Just like none of them wrote articles about what bankrolled Chelsea's trophy haul, though nobody at all touched this club until Ukraine getting invaded made it okay to discuss all things Russia.
Sanders, Batte, Garry et al. counting down the days until Earps leaves United for free so then they really have something to sink their teeth into and write about.
Sorry for the levity, just seems like the (at times rightful) pile on of United is never matched in other clubs. Things really aren't all that peachy in a lot of WSL clubs.

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Don’t get me wrong, I think she’s a very good 6 for Bayern. But god, I’ve missed when Stanway actually scored bangers and shot from distance. Just when she actually used to play as an 8. I think it’s one of the things England have really missed.
maybe unpopular opinion but i prefer stanway at 8 over her at 6
Same tbh. Like prev anon said, she’s a good 6, sure. But personally I think everything that made her stand out as a player individually and was special, was part of her in that 8 role.
She still does take quite a lot of shots from outside the box for Bayern (and she scored from a few of them this season).

I think that's maybe because Bayern regularly play teams that they're several classes better than, so it's easier for Stanway to get forward, whereas we (England) haven't had that luxury for a good while.
I don’t think that’s it. Bayern play with two 6s and out of the two, Zadrazil is the more defensive minded one, whereas Stanway gets involved in either direction of play. Tbh I think the reason her and Keira don’t work together as well anymore is that they don’t play together week in week out, rather than Stanway having forgotten how to play the .
The big difference is that it's now Stanway who tends to receive the ball from Bayern's keeper or defence, rather than Zadrazil. So Stanway's playing a Walsh-type role early in possession more than before for her club.

Once Bayern are in sustained possession, then Stanway can get forward, although Zadrazil does that sometimes as well, it's quite fluid.

So it isn't exactly the same role she grew up playing at City. Can't be sure, but I suspect next season at Bayern it'll be Oberdorf who tends to receive the ball from the keeper or defence, and Stanway will revert to her usual role. That should help England.

We'll see.

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Star girl Esme Morgan aka EM14 ™ got out at the right time. City is a shambles of a club.
CK too this summer
da. oh right yeah, completely forgot she was going too. are there any other departures that could happen this summer? i wonder if a bunch of them are trying to get out now.
The women's team is the only shred of credibility that lying, cheating excuse for a football club has.
There's been a distinct lack of coverage and push back from women's football media about the digusting way City are trying to shame the PL into not going forward with the charges.

I hate to do the 'imagine if it was other Club X saying this' thing but really, imagine it was United in this position and they were explicitly saying they'd basically drop the women's team if they faced any sort of punishment for their wrongdoings. All the journalists would have their opinion pieces at the ready and would be amplifying the message ten-fold. Even the news about Nielsen and staff leaving has been presented as-is with no follow-up.
Bizarre sort of protection City gets.
DA Women's football has a nasty habit of underreporting the stuff that takes any shine off public perceptions of the sport doing brilliantly. It also has a nasty habit of bigging itself up as a moral compass but then being shamefully hypocritical if the mood suits. Remember all that objection to Saudi sponsorship of the World Cup? The same people jump to write puff pieces praising Newcastle's attendances. You can bet they're all salivating in anticipation of the day that club gets into the WSL, there will be so many headlines about records being smashed and welcome investment and absolutely none about what the Saudi's are still doing to women and activists who dare ally themselves.

Until yesterday, hardly any journalist or pundit or whatever were calling out City's actions. Only about four or five were actually doing their job and calling a spade a spade. The rest were being cowardly brown nosers. The tide has turned now but there are Johnny-come-latelys everywhere. The women's football journos will be arriving even later, if they do at all. Never seen one of them draw a link between the status of City's women's team and the club's methods of operation, and I very much doubt any will now start questioning if that team should be where it is or what happens to the WSL & women's football on the whole if City are left free to carry on with their cheating. Just like none of them will start writing articles about what Newcastle's women's team is really all about. Just like none of them wrote articles about what bankrolled Chelsea's trophy haul, though nobody at all touched this club until Ukraine getting invaded made it okay to discuss all things Russia.

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Anyone been following all the chaos of Manchester City FC and their corruption and 115 charges?

I’ve mostly not followed as don’t I care about men’s football but it now seems like it will effect the women I am taking notice! Basically they are throwing the toys out of the pram
and threatening to stop funding the women’s team if they are found guilty of the charges:

“Man City argue that the current rules will limit their ability to buy the best players and force them to charge fans more for tickets. They say they will also have to cut spending on women's football, and community programmes”
They claim the current rules are anti competitive and make it too hard but also claim they’re following the rules and have still won 6 out of 7 so which is it? They’re lying about everything and it will only affect the women out of pure greed, not actual financial issues. They’re owned by an oil nation state and just want a free pass to pump in as much money as they want with no restrictions.
I’m hearing the whole back room of the City women’s team are leaving !!! It’s a mess up North. Vivi should come back to the Arseanal
But they don’t want her.
Surprising no team has come in for Viv for 2 weeks now. MC would have announced this already but no stories make me think there is no deal there. Very few teams will pay what she might want. She may have a problem getting a deal she wants.
Viv is still contracted to Arsenal until the end of the month. The WSL transfer window opens on 24th of June. I'm sure her agent will be busy behind the scenes, but clubs can't make any announcements until then.

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Don’t get me wrong, I think she’s a very good 6 for Bayern. But god, I’ve missed when Stanway actually scored bangers and shot from distance. Just when she actually used to play as an 8. I think it’s one of the things England have really missed.
maybe unpopular opinion but i prefer stanway at 8 over her at 6
Same tbh. Like prev anon said, she’s a good 6, sure. But personally I think everything that made her stand out as a player individually and was special, was part of her in that 8 role.
She still does take quite a lot of shots from outside the box for Bayern (and she scored from a few of them this season).

I think that's maybe because Bayern regularly play teams that they're several classes better than, so it's easier for Stanway to get forward, whereas we (England) haven't had that luxury for a good while.
I don’t think that’s it. Bayern play with two 6s and out of the two, Zadrazil is the more defensive minded one, whereas Stanway gets involved in either direction of play. Tbh I think the reason her and Keira don’t work together as well anymore is that they don’t play together week in week out, rather than Stanway having forgotten how to play the position she grew up playing.

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is the lionessess are not allowed to have a holiday outside europe?
Sarina said she prefers them to stay in Europe and would rather they not fly halfway across the world, but I doubt they’re actually restricted from going where they want.
damn if theyre actually restricted, i will not survive
You won’t survive? Why? You have plans to stall down Leah in Cali?
huh
Why will you not survive if the England players aren’t allowed to travel halfway around the world?

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is the lionessess are not allowed to have a holiday outside europe?
Sarina said she prefers them to stay in Europe and would rather they not fly halfway across the world, but I doubt they’re actually restricted from going where they want.
damn if theyre actually restricted, i will not survive
You won’t survive? Why? You have plans to stall down Leah in Cali?
huh
How do you know Leah is in Cali? Da

Re: English Football Ladies

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is the lionessess are not allowed to have a holiday outside europe?
Sarina said she prefers them to stay in Europe and would rather they not fly halfway across the world, but I doubt they’re actually restricted from going where they want.
damn if theyre actually restricted, i will not survive
You won’t survive? Why? You have plans to stall down Leah in Cali?
huh

Re: English Football Ladies

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Don’t get me wrong, I think she’s a very good 6 for Bayern. But god, I’ve missed when Stanway actually scored bangers and shot from distance. Just when she actually used to play as an 8. I think it’s one of the things England have really missed.
maybe unpopular opinion but i prefer stanway at 8 over her at 6
Same tbh. Like prev anon said, she’s a good 6, sure. But personally I think everything that made her stand out as a player individually and was special, was part of her in that 8 role.
She still does take quite a lot of shots from outside the box for Bayern (and she scored from a few of them this season).

I think that's maybe because Bayern regularly play teams that they're several classes better than, so it's easier for Stanway to get forward, whereas we (England) haven't had that luxury for a good while.

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For sure. But they’ve already shown they don’t value the women that much, so I doubt this will have even been a thought in their minds whatsoever.
I wonder if things like this factor into a players decision when picking a club. Like you look at the club and you think maybe they’re doing well in the league, but they’re not valued whatsoever by the men’s team and by the higher ups, and if it comes down to it they’ll cut you out to save themselves. Would the knowledge of that factor into someone’s choice to play there, or would they rather play at a club that’s doing just as well, if not better, but is actually (somewhat) valued and respected by the overall club.
depends how much the lack of respect is inflicting on the club ig.
e.g. is it resulting in them not being able to pay for players and to do certain things. or is it just something behind the scenes that’s there but not really something that’s causing any influence.
still i think i’d personally play for a club that values it’s team and therefore me as an extension of that team. i just think the morale would be better then relationships and respect is good bts.
DA Man City is a ghastly club and everybody has known it for years, even if they weren't saying so aloud. If players are joining the women's team despite knowing this then I can't imagine said players gave much of a shit about whether the gloss and whitewash of what goes on there would extend to their own work days because who in their right mind sees a club patently operating as a sham and thinks 'I bet things are great behind the veil'. Sign for City and you know what you're getting isn't as advertised, you just choose to overlook that because the wages drop into your bank account when they're supposed to and you'll have the chance to win a couple trophies that you can use to tell yourself it was a career well spent. Sad thing is, there will still be a line of players queuing up to sign for them even today, even when the extent of how rotten the club is has been truly exposed and even the women's team is being used as a toy to throw out of the pram.
They’re using the women’s team by holding it to ransom “See what we’ll do to the women’s team if you charge us” - pathetic.

Who’s CK?
Chloe Kelly. Been rumoured for months to be off to PSG in the summer.

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For sure. But they’ve already shown they don’t value the women that much, so I doubt this will have even been a thought in their minds whatsoever.
I wonder if things like this factor into a players decision when picking a club. Like you look at the club and you think maybe they’re doing well in the league, but they’re not valued whatsoever by the men’s team and by the higher ups, and if it comes down to it they’ll cut you out to save themselves. Would the knowledge of that factor into someone’s choice to play there, or would they rather play at a club that’s doing just as well, if not better, but is actually (somewhat) valued and respected by the overall club.
depends how much the lack of respect is inflicting on the club ig.
e.g. is it resulting in them not being able to pay for players and to do certain things. or is it just something behind the scenes that’s there but not really something that’s causing any influence.
still i think i’d personally play for a club that values it’s team and therefore me as an extension of that team. i just think the morale would be better then relationships and respect is good bts.
DA Man City is a ghastly club and everybody has known it for years, even if they weren't saying so aloud. If players are joining the women's team despite knowing this then I can't imagine said players gave much of a shit about whether the gloss and whitewash of what goes on there would extend to their own work days because who in their right mind sees a club patently operating as a sham and thinks 'I bet things are great behind the veil'. Sign for City and you know what you're getting isn't as advertised, you just choose to overlook that because the wages drop into your bank account when they're supposed to and you'll have the chance to win a couple trophies that you can use to tell yourself it was a career well spent. Sad thing is, there will still be a line of players queuing up to sign for them even today, even when the extent of how rotten the club is has been truly exposed and even the women's team is being used as a toy to throw out of the pram.
PREACH. The human rights abuses committed on women and LGBT folk in UAE by City’s billionaire Sheik owner is atrocious.

Then add the financial doping, 125 charges, corruption, fake sponsorships and how they have RUINED Manchester as a City with their awfully made cheap looking “luxury” glass buildings everywhere that make Manchester look like Shanghai 😡

Man City have been terrible to Manchester as a place. Ask anyone who isn’t seeing through blue tinted glasses. They have fucked entire areas of the City and driven working class people out

I hope the club gets liquidated
It's worth reminding ourselves that everybody also knew when Abramovic bought Chelsea in 2003 that he was a criminal with close ties to Putin, even if they weren't saying so aloud very often.

I'd forgotten about the exploitative deals that Abu Dhabi have secured for property in Manchester. They total destroy the illusion that City's owners have any interest in the city itself or the communities who live(d) there.

This is a good Guardian article about those deals:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... manchester

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