Vivianne Miedema and Beth Mead (Dutch and English footballer couple)

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If anyone actually believes Shebahn then you are dumb
She is not lying. She is an attention seeker and annoying but she is telling the truth and the only reason people won’t believe her is they’ve got in their heads still that they have to refuse the idea of Viv leaving. Arsenal will announce her leaving next week. She hasn’t signed for City yet, she can’t. But it’s all agreed on, she will go there.

There is every chance she is going to City but Sheban is not going to be the person in the know!

I also don’t think it’s that people are refusing to believe it it’s more that the sources are slightly ‘sketchy’

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If anyone actually believes Shebahn then you are dumb

She is not lying. She is an attention seeker and annoying but she is telling the truth and the only reason people won’t believe her is they’ve got in their heads still that they have to refuse the idea of Viv leaving. Arsenal will announce her leaving next week. She hasn’t signed for City yet, she can’t. But it’s all agreed on, she will go there.

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If anyone actually believes Shebahn then you are dumb

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Shebahn on her podcast says that Viv is signing for City and RLJ says she already knew that
Her agent was in Manchester 3 days after the City game also

Her agent being in Manchester means nothing as they’re the agent for a lot of other players especially the Dutch ones some of whom play for Man City, Liverpool, Everton even (all in close proximity to Manchester!)
Not saying she isn’t leaving Arsenal but there’s been so much conflicting information from Twitter, Tumblr, people who have ‘sources’! Either way we’ll find out if she is leaving or staying this week & I’m sure if she is leaving then we’ll find out in the next month or so where she’ll be going!

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They know nothing, just trying to get views

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Shebahn on her podcast says that Viv is signing for City and RLJ says she already knew that

Her agent was in Manchester 3 days after the City game also

by **Guest** » Today, 10:44

Shebahn on her podcast says that Viv is signing for City and RLJ says she already knew that

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Did Viv have a third surgery? She was ready to come on not long ago and now walking with a crutch. Her knee has to be fucked. Very much doubt she’s leaving Arsenal after seeing this pic. She’ll extend another year and rehab. Sad times.

They are on the same looking beach with very similar clothing in this video from March or so:

B. with that black hoodie with white print and white laces.
V. probably in the background with white tracky decks and dark jacket
the dog.

Minute 2:55

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... her-mother

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Pagecatching. I wonder if this is why she got frustrated with Jonas a couple of weeks ago. She’s in contract discussions and he won’t even put her on the pitch to show what she can do. He’s giving Stina all the game time in the world and not Viv; I think this might show where Arsenal are going with the June 2024 signings.
That is not why she was shouting at him. She was shouting “What is the point” when he was trying to put her on in the 96th minute with seconds of game time left. She was not going to score them a goal in a few seconds, she was frustrated with his poor excuse of a brain.
Another theory. Post the vid mate
Why would I have been pulling my phone out when my team are having one of the most embarrassing games of the season? If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. Why would I lie about what she was saying to him.
I don't believe you sorry mate

And that’s fine mate.

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Good for generating the hype but as we've seen the result on wsl table is contradicting the hype. It's on Jonas though. Jonas couldn't solve the low block problem all season long what expectation do you have for next season?

A player that literally able to score out of nothing, only need a half of chance to score, goes to rival club.

How could people rate a current form of a player when they haven't seen her play for 45 minutes or more after the 2nd op? Viv was on the bench, it means she was fit to play for minimum 15 / 20 minutes. How Viv could show her form when she was (almost) only given 20 seconds?
Pagecatching. I wonder if this is why she got frustrated with Jonas a couple of weeks ago. She’s in contract discussions and he won’t even put her on the pitch to show what she can do. He’s giving Stina all the game time in the world and not Viv; I think this might show where Arsenal are going with the June 2024 signings.
That is not why she was shouting at him. She was shouting “What is the point” when he was trying to put her on in the 96th minute with seconds of game time left. She was not going to score them a goal in a few seconds, she was frustrated with his poor excuse of a brain.
Another theory. Post the vid mate
Why would I have been pulling my phone out when my team are having one of the most embarrassing games of the season? If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. Why would I lie about what she was saying to him.

I don't believe you sorry mate

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Jonas signed people thinking they were better than they were due to having good moments in international windows (Alessia and Amanda are great examples of this). The only recent signing who has been a really good, clever pick up is Emily Fox.
Good for generating the hype but as we've seen the result on wsl table is contradicting the hype. It's on Jonas though. Jonas couldn't solve the low block problem all season long what expectation do you have for next season?

A player that literally able to score out of nothing, only need a half of chance to score, goes to rival club.

How could people rate a current form of a player when they haven't seen her play for 45 minutes or more after the 2nd op? Viv was on the bench, it means she was fit to play for minimum 15 / 20 minutes. How Viv could show her form when she was (almost) only given 20 seconds?
Pagecatching. I wonder if this is why she got frustrated with Jonas a couple of weeks ago. She’s in contract discussions and he won’t even put her on the pitch to show what she can do. He’s giving Stina all the game time in the world and not Viv; I think this might show where Arsenal are going with the June 2024 signings.
That is not why she was shouting at him. She was shouting “What is the point” when he was trying to put her on in the 96th minute with seconds of game time left. She was not going to score them a goal in a few seconds, she was frustrated with his poor excuse of a brain.
Another theory. Post the vid mate

Why would I have been pulling my phone out when my team are having one of the most embarrassing games of the season? If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. Why would I lie about what she was saying to him.

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Alessia wasn't brought in for her form.... but marketing..... business right.... viv is big name in football world..... big names are needed for marketing.... arsenal have too many big names already....but other clubs don't..... no investment is without risk.... other rich clubs will take that risk.... they will pay her wages demand....
Jonas signed people thinking they were better than they were due to having good moments in international windows (Alessia and Amanda are great examples of this). The only recent signing who has been a really good, clever pick up is Emily Fox.
Good for generating the hype but as we've seen the result on wsl table is contradicting the hype. It's on Jonas though. Jonas couldn't solve the low block problem all season long what expectation do you have for next season?

A player that literally able to score out of nothing, only need a half of chance to score, goes to rival club.

How could people rate a current form of a player when they haven't seen her play for 45 minutes or more after the 2nd op? Viv was on the bench, it means she was fit to play for minimum 15 / 20 minutes. How Viv could show her form when she was (almost) only given 20 seconds?
Pagecatching. I wonder if this is why she got frustrated with Jonas a couple of weeks ago. She’s in contract discussions and he won’t even put her on the pitch to show what she can do. He’s giving Stina all the game time in the world and not Viv; I think this might show where Arsenal are going with the June 2024 signings.
That is not why she was shouting at him. She was shouting “What is the point” when he was trying to put her on in the 96th minute with seconds of game time left. She was not going to score them a goal in a few seconds, she was frustrated with his poor excuse of a brain.

Another theory. Post the vid mate

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We don’t know if they have offered her a new contract. The rumours at the moment are that they have decided not to.

The salary stuff is speculation based on what we know of her current salary and where she was at form-wise when she signed it (plus the whole Arsenal needing to get her back from Barca) compared to where she is currently. It’s hard to imagine her being offered the same salary given her unknown form.
Alessia wasn't brought in for her form.... but marketing..... business right.... viv is big name in football world..... big names are needed for marketing.... arsenal have too many big names already....but other clubs don't..... no investment is without risk.... other rich clubs will take that risk.... they will pay her wages demand....
Jonas signed people thinking they were better than they were due to having good moments in international windows (Alessia and Amanda are great examples of this). The only recent signing who has been a really good, clever pick up is Emily Fox.
Good for generating the hype but as we've seen the result on wsl table is contradicting the hype. It's on Jonas though. Jonas couldn't solve the low block problem all season long what expectation do you have for next season?

A player that literally able to score out of nothing, only need a half of chance to score, goes to rival club.

How could people rate a current form of a player when they haven't seen her play for 45 minutes or more after the 2nd op? Viv was on the bench, it means she was fit to play for minimum 15 / 20 minutes. How Viv could show her form when she was (almost) only given 20 seconds?
Pagecatching. I wonder if this is why she got frustrated with Jonas a couple of weeks ago. She’s in contract discussions and he won’t even put her on the pitch to show what she can do. He’s giving Stina all the game time in the world and not Viv; I think this might show where Arsenal are going with the June 2024 signings.

That is not why she was shouting at him. She was shouting “What is the point” when he was trying to put her on in the 96th minute with seconds of game time left. She was not going to score them a goal in a few seconds, she was frustrated with his poor excuse of a brain.

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We don’t know if they have offered her a new contract. The rumours at the moment are that they have decided not to.

The salary stuff is speculation based on what we know of her current salary and where she was at form-wise when she signed it (plus the whole Arsenal needing to get her back from Barca) compared to where she is currently. It’s hard to imagine her being offered the same salary given her unknown form.
Alessia wasn't brought in for her form.... but marketing..... business right.... viv is big name in football world..... big names are needed for marketing.... arsenal have too many big names already....but other clubs don't..... no investment is without risk.... other rich clubs will take that risk.... they will pay her wages demand....
Jonas signed people thinking they were better than they were due to having good moments in international windows (Alessia and Amanda are great examples of this). The only recent signing who has been a really good, clever pick up is Emily Fox.
Good for generating the hype but as we've seen the result on wsl table is contradicting the hype. It's on Jonas though. Jonas couldn't solve the low block problem all season long what expectation do you have for next season?

A player that literally able to score out of nothing, only need a half of chance to score, goes to rival club.

How could people rate a current form of a player when they haven't seen her play for 45 minutes or more after the 2nd op? Viv was on the bench, it means she was fit to play for minimum 15 / 20 minutes. How Viv could show her form when she was (almost) only given 20 seconds?
Pagecatching. I wonder if this is why she got frustrated with Jonas a couple of weeks ago. She’s in contract discussions and he won’t even put her on the pitch to show what she can do. He’s giving Stina all the game time in the world and not Viv; I think this might show where Arsenal are going with the June 2024 signings.

I agree with this. She wouldnt be getting mad at jonas if she was leaving. To me it shows that she is passionate and cares about the club a lot. Hopefully they will announce the extension soon

by **Guest** » 10 May 2024, 16:56

you watch all the speculation just for her to re-sign

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This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?
We don’t know if they have offered her a new contract. The rumours at the moment are that they have decided not to.

The salary stuff is speculation based on what we know of her current salary and where she was at form-wise when she signed it (plus the whole Arsenal needing to get her back from Barca) compared to where she is currently. It’s hard to imagine her being offered the same salary given her unknown form.
Alessia wasn't brought in for her form.... but marketing..... business right.... viv is big name in football world..... big names are needed for marketing.... arsenal have too many big names already....but other clubs don't..... no investment is without risk.... other rich clubs will take that risk.... they will pay her wages demand....
Jonas signed people thinking they were better than they were due to having good moments in international windows (Alessia and Amanda are great examples of this). The only recent signing who has been a really good, clever pick up is Emily Fox.
Good for generating the hype but as we've seen the result on wsl table is contradicting the hype. It's on Jonas though. Jonas couldn't solve the low block problem all season long what expectation do you have for next season?

A player that literally able to score out of nothing, only need a half of chance to score, goes to rival club.

How could people rate a current form of a player when they haven't seen her play for 45 minutes or more after the 2nd op? Viv was on the bench, it means she was fit to play for minimum 15 / 20 minutes. How Viv could show her form when she was (almost) only given 20 seconds?

Pagecatching. I wonder if this is why she got frustrated with Jonas a couple of weeks ago. She’s in contract discussions and he won’t even put her on the pitch to show what she can do. He’s giving Stina all the game time in the world and not Viv; I think this might show where Arsenal are going with the June 2024 signings.

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I can’t say how I know this or who has communicated this but I can say that Miedema is staying at Arsenal.

You have no need to believe me or argue with this because I won’t be posting further but when the news comes out I reserve the right to say ‘I told you so’.

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When did you find out if ur telling the truth

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This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?
All speculations. Another fan theory. Page after page
exactly everything is just rumours, nothing has come from reliable sources. ok yes people tak about tim stillman but still not going to fully believe it until there is more talk because at the minute its just tim, this person called amy and random people on twitter.
No I'm talking about other things. Long essays about exactly what happened her salary situation new club etc etc. That's all fan theories. I know she's leaving.
how do you know?

Well woso journalists not so professional

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Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.
This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?
All speculations. Another fan theory. Page after page
exactly everything is just rumours, nothing has come from reliable sources. ok yes people tak about tim stillman but still not going to fully believe it until there is more talk because at the minute its just tim, this person called amy and random people on twitter.
No I'm talking about other things. Long essays about exactly what happened her salary situation new club etc etc. That's all fan theories. I know she's leaving.

how do you know?

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When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.
Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.
This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?
All speculations. Another fan theory. Page after page
exactly everything is just rumours, nothing has come from reliable sources. ok yes people tak about tim stillman but still not going to fully believe it until there is more talk because at the minute its just tim, this person called amy and random people on twitter.

No I'm talking about other things. Long essays about exactly what happened her salary situation new club etc etc. That's all fan theories. I know she's leaving.

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Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).
When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.
Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.
This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?
All speculations. Another fan theory. Page after page

exactly everything is just rumours, nothing has come from reliable sources. ok yes people tak about tim stillman but still not going to fully believe it until there is more talk because at the minute its just tim, this person called amy and random people on twitter.

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That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary
Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).
When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.
Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.
This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?

All speculations. Another fan theory. Page after page

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Good for generating the hype but as we've seen the result on wsl table is contradicting the hype. It's on Jonas though. Jonas couldn't solve the low block problem all season long what expectation do you have for next season?

A player that literally able to score out of nothing, only need a half of chance to score, goes to rival club.

How could people rate a current form of a player when they haven't seen her play for 45 minutes or more after the 2nd op? Viv was on the bench, it means she was fit to play for minimum 15 / 20 minutes. How Viv could show her form when she was (almost) only given 20 seconds?

The club knows way more about Viv's medical situation than us.
She has undergone multiple setbacks with multiple surgeries. She's soon to be 28 and has a very high salary, there's no guarantee she can return to form.

Viv fans should be glad that the club isn't putting out articles slandering her like Barca did with Alexia. They have chosen to be quite about it.

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Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.
This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?
We don’t know if they have offered her a new contract. The rumours at the moment are that they have decided not to.

The salary stuff is speculation based on what we know of her current salary and where she was at form-wise when she signed it (plus the whole Arsenal needing to get her back from Barca) compared to where she is currently. It’s hard to imagine her being offered the same salary given her unknown form.
Alessia wasn't brought in for her form.... but marketing..... business right.... viv is big name in football world..... big names are needed for marketing.... arsenal have too many big names already....but other clubs don't..... no investment is without risk.... other rich clubs will take that risk.... they will pay her wages demand....
Jonas signed people thinking they were better than they were due to having good moments in international windows (Alessia and Amanda are great examples of this). The only recent signing who has been a really good, clever pick up is Emily Fox.

Good for generating the hype but as we've seen the result on wsl table is contradicting the hype. It's on Jonas though. Jonas couldn't solve the low block problem all season long what expectation do you have for next season?

A player that literally able to score out of nothing, only need a half of chance to score, goes to rival club.

How could people rate a current form of a player when they haven't seen her play for 45 minutes or more after the 2nd op? Viv was on the bench, it means she was fit to play for minimum 15 / 20 minutes. How Viv could show her form when she was (almost) only given 20 seconds?

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When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.
Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.
This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?
We don’t know if they have offered her a new contract. The rumours at the moment are that they have decided not to.

The salary stuff is speculation based on what we know of her current salary and where she was at form-wise when she signed it (plus the whole Arsenal needing to get her back from Barca) compared to where she is currently. It’s hard to imagine her being offered the same salary given her unknown form.
Alessia wasn't brought in for her form.... but marketing..... business right.... viv is big name in football world..... big names are needed for marketing.... arsenal have too many big names already....but other clubs don't..... no investment is without risk.... other rich clubs will take that risk.... they will pay her wages demand....

Jonas signed people thinking they were better than they were due to having good moments in international windows (Alessia and Amanda are great examples of this). The only recent signing who has been a really good, clever pick up is Emily Fox.

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I can’t say how I know this or who has communicated this but I can say that Miedema is staying at Arsenal.

You have no need to believe me or argue with this because I won’t be posting further but when the news comes out I reserve the right to say ‘I told you so’.

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Lying to give people on the internet false hope is not a fun hobby. I hope you find something better to do with your time in the future! It’s obvious she’s leaving unfortunately.

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Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).
When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.
Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.
This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?
We don’t know if they have offered her a new contract. The rumours at the moment are that they have decided not to.

The salary stuff is speculation based on what we know of her current salary and where she was at form-wise when she signed it (plus the whole Arsenal needing to get her back from Barca) compared to where she is currently. It’s hard to imagine her being offered the same salary given her unknown form.

Alessia wasn't brought in for her form.... but marketing..... business right.... viv is big name in football world..... big names are needed for marketing.... arsenal have too many big names already....but other clubs don't..... no investment is without risk.... other rich clubs will take that risk.... they will pay her wages demand....

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In response to his latest tweet about putting his name to rumours someone said he was disrespectful for what he said about Viv not fitting into the team & after all she’s done for the club she deserves the benefit of the doubt in return, his response to that was ‘That’s not *my* opinion. That’s based on what I have observed in the team and how I think the coach sees it (and I might be wrong about that anyway).’ I don’t quite know what he means, is he saying what he said was incorrect?
He’s avoiding saying he’s been told she’s gone this summer and trying to explain it away as she no longer fits into the team. Well yeah Viv’s been injured the last two years. But to say she’s not needed is a leap, even just for rotation purposes who are you getting that’s more football wise and can execute plays better than Viv on her best days?

To me Arsenal either think she won’t get back to her best with that knee or Viv refused a cut in salary or contract length. To me it’s a little crazy not to keep her just on jersey sales alone and media promotion for the club. Timmy is just saying don’t attack him, it’s Jonas that can’t or won’t fit Viv into the team.
That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary
Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).
When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.

Here is the report

https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/s ... women.html

1.Barcelona 2.Real Madrid 3.United 4.City 5.Arsenal

United desperately need a striker. United only flaw is their manager. They have massive budget after internal restructuring, good at promoting players.

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That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary
Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).
When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.
Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.
This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?

We don’t know if they have offered her a new contract. The rumours at the moment are that they have decided not to.

The salary stuff is speculation based on what we know of her current salary and where she was at form-wise when she signed it (plus the whole Arsenal needing to get her back from Barca) compared to where she is currently. It’s hard to imagine her being offered the same salary given her unknown form.

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That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary
Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).
When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.
Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.
Respectfully to Viv, Liverpool aren’t dropping that kind of money on a striker who hasn’t played consistently since December 2022. She can’t just “name her price” for any team - certainly not Liverpool.

I think you are also missing the point. Liverpool don’t have big names because they don’t seek out the big names. They look for players with really good stats that fly under the radar. That is how they are fourth on the table with a bunch of low profile players. It’s intentional.

The new GK they bought isn’t super low profile, she was her NT starter at the last Olympics and then got hurt and it almost ended her career or something. But I agree, it’s intentional and getting a big name would go against everything they’re building. Viv at United would be an interesting thing to watch if Skinner weren’t the coach. If she doesn’t get along with Jonas she certainly wouldn’t with Marc, he’s even worse.

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He’s avoiding saying he’s been told she’s gone this summer and trying to explain it away as she no longer fits into the team. Well yeah Viv’s been injured the last two years. But to say she’s not needed is a leap, even just for rotation purposes who are you getting that’s more football wise and can execute plays better than Viv on her best days?

To me Arsenal either think she won’t get back to her best with that knee or Viv refused a cut in salary or contract length. To me it’s a little crazy not to keep her just on jersey sales alone and media promotion for the club. Timmy is just saying don’t attack him, it’s Jonas that can’t or won’t fit Viv into the team.
That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary
Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).
When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.
Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.

How did you know what's on her mind?

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He’s avoiding saying he’s been told she’s gone this summer and trying to explain it away as she no longer fits into the team. Well yeah Viv’s been injured the last two years. But to say she’s not needed is a leap, even just for rotation purposes who are you getting that’s more football wise and can execute plays better than Viv on her best days?

To me Arsenal either think she won’t get back to her best with that knee or Viv refused a cut in salary or contract length. To me it’s a little crazy not to keep her just on jersey sales alone and media promotion for the club. Timmy is just saying don’t attack him, it’s Jonas that can’t or won’t fit Viv into the team.
That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary
Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).
When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.
Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.

Respectfully to Viv, Liverpool aren’t dropping that kind of money on a striker who hasn’t played consistently since December 2022. She can’t just “name her price” for any team - certainly not Liverpool.

I think you are also missing the point. Liverpool don’t have big names because they don’t seek out the big names. They look for players with really good stats that fly under the radar. That is how they are fourth on the table with a bunch of low profile players. It’s intentional.

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He’s avoiding saying he’s been told she’s gone this summer and trying to explain it away as she no longer fits into the team. Well yeah Viv’s been injured the last two years. But to say she’s not needed is a leap, even just for rotation purposes who are you getting that’s more football wise and can execute plays better than Viv on her best days?

To me Arsenal either think she won’t get back to her best with that knee or Viv refused a cut in salary or contract length. To me it’s a little crazy not to keep her just on jersey sales alone and media promotion for the club. Timmy is just saying don’t attack him, it’s Jonas that can’t or won’t fit Viv into the team.
That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary
Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).
When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.
Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.

This is getting confusing. Have Arsenal given Viv a new contract with pay cut or is this another fan narrative?

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In response to his latest tweet about putting his name to rumours someone said he was disrespectful for what he said about Viv not fitting into the team & after all she’s done for the club she deserves the benefit of the doubt in return, his response to that was ‘That’s not *my* opinion. That’s based on what I have observed in the team and how I think the coach sees it (and I might be wrong about that anyway).’ I don’t quite know what he means, is he saying what he said was incorrect?
He’s avoiding saying he’s been told she’s gone this summer and trying to explain it away as she no longer fits into the team. Well yeah Viv’s been injured the last two years. But to say she’s not needed is a leap, even just for rotation purposes who are you getting that’s more football wise and can execute plays better than Viv on her best days?

To me Arsenal either think she won’t get back to her best with that knee or Viv refused a cut in salary or contract length. To me it’s a little crazy not to keep her just on jersey sales alone and media promotion for the club. Timmy is just saying don’t attack him, it’s Jonas that can’t or won’t fit Viv into the team.
That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary
Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).
When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.

Liverpool can afford that. Easily. Their GM negotiated with ownership to invest in the women’s team more and they’ve been doing that. They’re paying to have a new premier league standard pitch put in at their new ground for next season. They’re not messing around with their women’s team investments. Getting Viv at pretty much whatever salary wouldn’t be hard. Given that they don’t have any big name players as of yet, she could pretty much name her price. But at the same time she knows she’s not worth what she was on at Arsenal. There’s a happy medium between what she was on and what Arsenal want to reduce her salary to, and surely Liverpool (or United) would pay it. With Stina staying it is abundantly clear Viv is not staying and as mad as people are, it MAKES COMPLETE SENSE from a business perspective. Which is what these teams are. They are businesses.

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In response to his latest tweet about putting his name to rumours someone said he was disrespectful for what he said about Viv not fitting into the team & after all she’s done for the club she deserves the benefit of the doubt in return, his response to that was ‘That’s not *my* opinion. That’s based on what I have observed in the team and how I think the coach sees it (and I might be wrong about that anyway).’ I don’t quite know what he means, is he saying what he said was incorrect?
He’s avoiding saying he’s been told she’s gone this summer and trying to explain it away as she no longer fits into the team. Well yeah Viv’s been injured the last two years. But to say she’s not needed is a leap, even just for rotation purposes who are you getting that’s more football wise and can execute plays better than Viv on her best days?

To me Arsenal either think she won’t get back to her best with that knee or Viv refused a cut in salary or contract length. To me it’s a little crazy not to keep her just on jersey sales alone and media promotion for the club. Timmy is just saying don’t attack him, it’s Jonas that can’t or won’t fit Viv into the team.
That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary
Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).

When Viv re-signed in 2022 she became the highest paid WSL player - over the likes of Pernille Harder and Sam Kerr who had been massive Chelsea signings. She’s probably on 500k, at least.

Liverpool can’t afford that. Plus their whole MO is buying under the radar players with good stats, not the big stars who command the massive salaries - they are the same as the men in that respect. United would make more sense.

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In response to his latest tweet about putting his name to rumours someone said he was disrespectful for what he said about Viv not fitting into the team & after all she’s done for the club she deserves the benefit of the doubt in return, his response to that was ‘That’s not *my* opinion. That’s based on what I have observed in the team and how I think the coach sees it (and I might be wrong about that anyway).’ I don’t quite know what he means, is he saying what he said was incorrect?
He’s avoiding saying he’s been told she’s gone this summer and trying to explain it away as she no longer fits into the team. Well yeah Viv’s been injured the last two years. But to say she’s not needed is a leap, even just for rotation purposes who are you getting that’s more football wise and can execute plays better than Viv on her best days?

To me Arsenal either think she won’t get back to her best with that knee or Viv refused a cut in salary or contract length. To me it’s a little crazy not to keep her just on jersey sales alone and media promotion for the club. Timmy is just saying don’t attack him, it’s Jonas that can’t or won’t fit Viv into the team.
That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary

Viv's salary won't get a paycut but maybe less bonuses and add ons. Russo earns less than Viv, Leah, Beth but she earns massive bump add ons (goal, game appearance, ads appearance).

But if Viv moves to United or Liverpool they definitely can match her salary at Arsenal and their ads are crazy, Viv could earn big money from being their postergirl especially at United. There is report United Women got their biggest revenue from sponsorship ads (Arsenal revenue from ticket and selling merchandise on matchday).

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I can’t say how I know this or who has communicated this but I can say that Miedema is staying at Arsenal.

You have no need to believe me or argue with this because I won’t be posting further but when the news comes out I reserve the right to say ‘I told you so’.

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thank you anon. I like that you wanted to call your right to a "told you so" beforehand.

I am amongst the ones that wouldn't be surprised either way.
IMHO if she stays she's confirming her need to feel comfortable. My impression is that the mental health side of things plays a part in all this. and having your partner there can help. moving to a new environment can be exciting, but also stressful. she has been in numerous situations like that before, so we have to trust she knows what's best for herself.
I just genuinely hope she's back playing her best football, because she's a pleasure to watch.

DA but I agree, if viv is to stay they’ll probably want to readjust her salary lower to reflect her current capabilities so maybe that negotiation takes time etc. I don’t think with the house, Myle, Beth and her crew all there it’ll be a move she’d want to make so I’m holding my thumbs she’s staying.

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I can’t say how I know this or who has communicated this but I can say that Miedema is staying at Arsenal.

You have no need to believe me or argue with this because I won’t be posting further but when the news comes out I reserve the right to say ‘I told you so’.

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thank you anon. I like that you wanted to call your right to a "told you so" beforehand.

I am amongst the ones that wouldn't be surprised either way.
IMHO if she stays she's confirming her need to feel comfortable. My impression is that the mental health side of things plays a part in all this. and having your partner there can help. moving to a new environment can be exciting, but also stressful. she has been in numerous situations like that before, so we have to trust she knows what's best for herself.
I just genuinely hope she's back playing her best football, because she's a pleasure to watch.

by **Guest** » 10 May 2024, 07:45

I can’t say how I know this or who has communicated this but I can say that Miedema is staying at Arsenal.

You have no need to believe me or argue with this because I won’t be posting further but when the news comes out I reserve the right to say ‘I told you so’.

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In response to his latest tweet about putting his name to rumours someone said he was disrespectful for what he said about Viv not fitting into the team & after all she’s done for the club she deserves the benefit of the doubt in return, his response to that was ‘That’s not *my* opinion. That’s based on what I have observed in the team and how I think the coach sees it (and I might be wrong about that anyway).’ I don’t quite know what he means, is he saying what he said was incorrect?
He’s avoiding saying he’s been told she’s gone this summer and trying to explain it away as she no longer fits into the team. Well yeah Viv’s been injured the last two years. But to say she’s not needed is a leap, even just for rotation purposes who are you getting that’s more football wise and can execute plays better than Viv on her best days?

To me Arsenal either think she won’t get back to her best with that knee or Viv refused a cut in salary or contract length. To me it’s a little crazy not to keep her just on jersey sales alone and media promotion for the club. Timmy is just saying don’t attack him, it’s Jonas that can’t or won’t fit Viv into the team.

That’s the thing though with salary wherever she goes she’s surely going to take a cut in salary

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In response to his latest tweet about putting his name to rumours someone said he was disrespectful for what he said about Viv not fitting into the team & after all she’s done for the club she deserves the benefit of the doubt in return, his response to that was ‘That’s not *my* opinion. That’s based on what I have observed in the team and how I think the coach sees it (and I might be wrong about that anyway).’ I don’t quite know what he means, is he saying what he said was incorrect?

He’s avoiding saying he’s been told she’s gone this summer and trying to explain it away as she no longer fits into the team. Well yeah Viv’s been injured the last two years. But to say she’s not needed is a leap, even just for rotation purposes who are you getting that’s more football wise and can execute plays better than Viv on her best days?

To me Arsenal either think she won’t get back to her best with that knee or Viv refused a cut in salary or contract length. To me it’s a little crazy not to keep her just on jersey sales alone and media promotion for the club. Timmy is just saying don’t attack him, it’s Jonas that can’t or won’t fit Viv into the team.

by **Guest** » 10 May 2024, 06:22

In response to his latest tweet about putting his name to rumours someone said he was disrespectful for what he said about Viv not fitting into the team & after all she’s done for the club she deserves the benefit of the doubt in return, his response to that was ‘That’s not *my* opinion. That’s based on what I have observed in the team and how I think the coach sees it (and I might be wrong about that anyway).’ I don’t quite know what he means, is he saying what he said was incorrect?

by **Guest** » 10 May 2024, 05:35

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mutualism. arsenal trade transfer infomations for -arsenal are good enough we dont need viv- propaganda with tim. even though statistics show otherwise, journalist can create false narrative because they have platform and massive followers, they can hide later behind 'my personal oponion' when they get backlash. journalism-mutualism-propaganda. daily mail right wing propaganda, bbc left wing propaganda. journalist and media can make you or break you. be skeptical with news and rumors.

Not got a clue what you’re trying to say here can you be more direct. Are you saying they’re letting Viv go and telling Tim to tell us we don’t need her or what.

by **Guest** » 10 May 2024, 05:31

mutualism. arsenal trade transfer infomations for -arsenal are good enough we dont need viv- propaganda with tim. even though statistics show otherwise, journalist can create false narrative because they have platform and massive followers, they can hide later behind 'my personal oponion' when they get backlash. journalism-mutualism-propaganda. daily mail right wing propaganda, bbc left wing propaganda. journalist and media can make you or break you. be skeptical with news and rumors.

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So Tim is annoyed that transfer "jokes" are being linked to his name and how he works hard to get info, but Is quite happy to feed Transfer news to a blog to pass around

Also Happy Birthday Beth. Don't know why People expect Viv To post straight away, not everyone runs to social media, they do actually just live in the moment
I literally thought that when I seen his latest tweet, he’s done a blog, had tweets & spoken with Amy about Viv leaving yet when his name gets linked to them because people are upset/annoyed he doesn’t like it! Make that make sense!
Timmy argues with fans on twitter esp when drunk and is real quick to delete afterwards. Guy is an a-hole and creepy af if you spend any time with him at games.
He likes to hang out with the very young woso fans a little to much if you ask me.

Tim and friends have been in woso for as long as i can remember, they shoud've known better. Young and post euros new fans can't keep their mouth shut for attention.

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Did Viv have a third surgery? She was ready to come on not long ago and now walking with a crutch. Her knee has to be fucked. Very much doubt she’s leaving Arsenal after seeing this pic. She’ll extend another year and rehab. Sad times.

Old photo. There’s a pic from a photo dump back in March where she has those pants and shoes on with the cane and is on the beach. It was right after the second surgery. She’s not extending. Give it up. It’s getting a bit pathetic now tbh

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Did Viv have a third surgery? She was ready to come on not long ago and now walking with a crutch. Her knee has to be fucked. Very much doubt she’s leaving Arsenal after seeing this pic. She’ll extend another year and rehab. Sad times.

No, this is an old photo from her second surgery. She’s wearing the same outfit in this photo dump. She is not extending, let it go

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This transfer is way too quiet. I hope it is not scandalous transfer to rival. Fuck me if chelshit/marcskinner utd/spuds
Lots of people are saying United but honestly Liverpool have had an impressive season and the one thing they need to really elevate their squad is a target 9. If Viv gets most of the summer to focus on getting stronger (Euro qualifiers aside, I assume she’ll get minimal minutes in those) there’s no reason she can’t start next season as a goal scoring threat right from the jump.
Liverpool lacked a finisher so Viv will be good there. Matt Beard is also a good manager
Can they afford her? I know that keeps getting asked and I assume she won’t be on 400k wherever she goes (that was her last contract amount at Arsenal I think?) but can Liverpool afford to pay her close to what she’d be after? They’re moving to a new home ground and paying to have a new pitch put in so ownership is clearly investing
They can because the reason why Michael Edwards returned to Liverpool is on the condition that the stingy owners will allow them to spend more. They are also going to pump in more money in the women's now that women's football is gaining recognition. Besides Liverpool was one of the trailblazers in the early days of WSL. They want to revive that. Issue is will they pay for her?

Btw, F Miyazawa for being a Utd fan so she u turned on the last minute to sign for Utd. Hope she will regret joining Skinner instead of Beard

They don’t have to pay for her, she’s a free agent. They’d be getting her on a free transfer. If ownership is being pushed to invest I don’t imagine her salary would be a problem

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Im still unconvinced shes leaving. there just isnt enough chat from enough reliable resources to belive this. and i dont think she would go to a different club in england i think she will either stay at arsenal or go abroad. but im so done with people thinking it is definitley happening because there has been no firm evidence.
How new to women’s football are you? There is very rarely firm evidence. The only firm evidence is the official announcement.

Im not saying that this is incorrect info all imm trying to say is people are fully convinced shes leaving and already making goodbye edits and stuff, im not tryung to cause an arguement or anything i just mean from previous transfers nothing should be fully believed until many reliable resources speak about it.

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Did Viv have a third surgery? She was ready to come on not long ago and now walking with a crutch. Her knee has to be fucked. Very much doubt she’s leaving Arsenal after seeing this pic. She’ll extend another year and rehab. Sad times.

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