by Guest » 21 Aug 2023, 01:10
Skah wrote: ↑20 Aug 2023, 10:26
Lesbians are like aliens in Korea. They don’t exist until you get to meet one. And 99.9% of Korean lesbians are in the closet so it’s not surprising they don’t believe the gayest female athlete in Korea is actually gay.
It must be the same as it is in Japan. To be quite honest, I think there is a new wave of conservatism forming, but Lesbianism was always and I think it will aways be the most accepted sexuality outside of heterosexuality by far. There's heaps of female love in traditional cultures and how this never really raised any calamities inside patriarchal societies.
You have the Prime Minister of Japan, Kishida, afraid of addressing the lgbt issue on the country, but not because of Lesbianism, because of the "other" ones.
Ironically, I think lesbianism is the most conservative accepted sexuality outside of heterosexuality. If I am allowed to make a wild analogy, it is like paedophilia, in the sense that paedophilia is one of the most hated, incomprehensible, and far away "sexual taste" from all the other ones. Lesbianism is like the opposite to the positive side, but both are completely outside of all the spectrum.
it's not really acceptance though, it's more that for the longest time people did not believe women could have active sexual desire, and so two women being in a sexual relationship was simply never considered as a possibility. two men together on the other hand was universally perceived as sinful and immoral because men are the "sexual beings" and women are the objects of desire. a man letting another man "treat him like a women" (i.e. penetrate him, because they could only think of sex in terms of who is doing it and who's taking it) was deemed unacceptable.
which is why historically women could live and die together (that is, the few women that were lucky enough to have the means to sustain themselves without a man) and no one would think anything of it. it's the reason for the "historians will say they were best friends" meme. and it's also why lesbianism was never explicitly outlawed in a lot of countries that had (or still have, unfortunately) laws against male homosexuality. it's not because they accepted lesbian love, but because they could not conceive of it.
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Lesbians are like aliens in Korea. They don’t exist until you get to meet one. And 99.9% of Korean lesbians are in the closet so it’s not surprising they don’t believe the gayest female athlete in Korea is actually gay.
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It must be the same as it is in Japan. To be quite honest, I think there is a new wave of conservatism forming, but Lesbianism was always and I think it will aways be the most accepted sexuality outside of heterosexuality by far. There's heaps of female love in traditional cultures and how this never really raised any calamities inside patriarchal societies.
You have the Prime Minister of Japan, Kishida, afraid of addressing the lgbt issue on the country, but not because of Lesbianism, because of the "other" ones.
Ironically, I think lesbianism is the most conservative accepted sexuality outside of heterosexuality. If I am allowed to make a wild analogy, it is like paedophilia, in the sense that paedophilia is one of the most hated, incomprehensible, and far away "sexual taste" from all the other ones. Lesbianism is like the opposite to the positive side, but both are completely outside of all the spectrum.
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it's not really acceptance though, it's more that for the longest time people did not believe women could have active sexual desire, and so two women being in a sexual relationship was simply never considered as a possibility. two men together on the other hand was universally perceived as sinful and immoral because men are the "sexual beings" and women are the objects of desire. a man letting another man "treat him like a women" (i.e. penetrate him, because they could only think of sex in terms of who is doing it and who's taking it) was deemed unacceptable.
which is why historically women could live and die together (that is, the few women that were lucky enough to have the means to sustain themselves without a man) and no one would think anything of it. it's the reason for the "historians will say they were best friends" meme. and it's also why lesbianism was never explicitly outlawed in a lot of countries that had (or still have, unfortunately) laws against male homosexuality. it's not because they accepted lesbian love, but because they could not conceive of it.