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DA. That's your interpretation, not something they've said.
And every nt break since oliva has had problems, all the Alexia drama made people forget that the federation didn't even sign a contract and had to change stadium 2 weeks before the game when some fans had already bought tickets and hotel rooms, previous break second half started with 2 less players on the other one they fuced up with the convo list and players couldn't play (including what would have been Paredes 100th cap). It seems that either there are still people with power on the rfef wanting to boycott the women's team or that they don't care and put incompetent people to work with them
Nobody has forgotten those things. An institution as chronically corrupt and misogynistic as the RFEF does not change overnight. The players have said that progress is very slow, but moving in the right direction. Those players are showing up and continue to fight for those changes from within, and are being the best team in the world on the pitch while they’re at it.
Okay so just to recap, Mapi and Patri acknowledged the agreements for changes to come during Oliva talks but they still walked away because they did not like how they were called up with threat of sanction. But didn't they also already addressed the changes to be made to that national call up sanction? i think there were moves being made already to get rid of that law or something and shouldn't be an issue anymore?
And now we know Markel has been talking to Patri and the others to come back. Patri has been on a PR roll lately, seems she's really trying to set the stage for her come back to NT. Which ok fine, but why does she have to give those low-key snarky remarks about her teammates lately? The NT squad has moved on and able to settle their differences to play and win 2 titles now. She's trying to come into the picture now while making those snarks and creating tension again. I don't know, I just feel like she can't just waltz in anytime she likes and leave them hanging anytime she doesn't want to stick by them.
Okay so isn’t that exactly what Aitana did? Or any of the other las15 that made themselves available again? Waltz out and then waltz backed in without saying anything to their intentions?
Aitana may have had selfish reasons for going back, but she opened a dialogue with the RFEF, and said that the changes that they made prior to the WC (travel conditions, allowance for family travel) were enough for her to go back and continue to push for more change from within. Basically she accepted that Las 15 strategy was wrong and wasn’t too stubborn to move on from it. She also made her peace with the players who hadn’t been part of Las 15 and seems to have integrated well back into the locker room. I don’t remember her giving multiple interviews preaching about her values before all that, which probably helped her reintegration. And she did face up to the media when she returned and explained why she returned, which is more than Alexia did, who completely boycotted her media duties until they won the WC because she knew that no one would ask her then why she went back. Aitana may not have done everything perfectly, but she’s not a coward.
x2 exactly. The difference is Aitana was able to recognize when she made a wrong strategy, made peace with herself and her teammates and then went together despite of criticisms like the above, fought together and won the WC and gave themselves a platform to make changes from the inside. Laia A and Lucia had recent interviews detailing their heartbreak of being part of last 15 and being passed over for WC. But look at the team now, everyone has made peace and more united than ever, including Aitana, Laia A and Lucia. The problem with Patri is she's being a hypocrite right now because she's seeing the team is succeeding without her, she thought her values were right and the team will crumble, but the struggles only made the team stronger together - even without Patri. So now she wants in on the success too - which should have been okay IF she wasn't doing all these interviews still shading them. If you want to come back then act like the others did, make peace. The way she's doing it now is just creating tension, all because she can't admit she was wrong.
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DA. That's your interpretation, not something they've said.
And every nt break since oliva has had problems, all the Alexia drama made people forget that the federation didn't even sign a contract and had to change stadium 2 weeks before the game when some fans had already bought tickets and hotel rooms, previous break second half started with 2 less players on the other one they fuced up with the convo list and players couldn't play (including what would have been Paredes 100th cap). It seems that either there are still people with power on the rfef wanting to boycott the women's team or that they don't care and put incompetent people to work with them
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Nobody has forgotten those things. An institution as chronically corrupt and misogynistic as the RFEF does not change overnight. The players have said that progress is very slow, but moving in the right direction. Those players are showing up and continue to fight for those changes from within, and are being the best team in the world on the pitch while they’re at it.
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Okay so just to recap, Mapi and Patri acknowledged the agreements for changes to come during Oliva talks but they still walked away because they did not like how they were called up with threat of sanction. But didn't they also already addressed the changes to be made to that national call up sanction? i think there were moves being made already to get rid of that law or something and shouldn't be an issue anymore?
And now we know Markel has been talking to Patri and the others to come back. Patri has been on a PR roll lately, seems she's really trying to set the stage for her come back to NT. Which ok fine, but why does she have to give those low-key snarky remarks about her teammates lately? The NT squad has moved on and able to settle their differences to play and win 2 titles now. She's trying to come into the picture now while making those snarks and creating tension again. I don't know, I just feel like she can't just waltz in anytime she likes and leave them hanging anytime she doesn't want to stick by them.
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Okay so isn’t that exactly what Aitana did? Or any of the other las15 that made themselves available again? Waltz out and then waltz backed in without saying anything to their intentions?
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Aitana may have had selfish reasons for going back, but she opened a dialogue with the RFEF, and said that the changes that they made prior to the WC (travel conditions, allowance for family travel) were enough for her to go back and continue to push for more change from within. Basically she accepted that Las 15 strategy was wrong and wasn’t too stubborn to move on from it. She also made her peace with the players who hadn’t been part of Las 15 and seems to have integrated well back into the locker room. I don’t remember her giving multiple interviews preaching about her values before all that, which probably helped her reintegration. And she did face up to the media when she returned and explained why she returned, which is more than Alexia did, who completely boycotted her media duties until they won the WC because she knew that no one would ask her then why she went back. Aitana may not have done everything perfectly, but she’s not a coward.
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x2 exactly. The difference is Aitana was able to recognize when she made a wrong strategy, made peace with herself and her teammates and then went together despite of criticisms like the above, fought together and won the WC and gave themselves a platform to make changes from the inside. Laia A and Lucia had recent interviews detailing their heartbreak of being part of last 15 and being passed over for WC. But look at the team now, everyone has made peace and more united than ever, including Aitana, Laia A and Lucia. The problem with Patri is she's being a hypocrite right now because she's seeing the team is succeeding without her, she thought her values were right and the team will crumble, but the struggles only made the team stronger together - even without Patri. So now she wants in on the success too - which should have been okay IF she wasn't doing all these interviews still shading them. If you want to come back then act like the others did, make peace. The way she's doing it now is just creating tension, all because she can't admit she was wrong.