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Didn’t Irene say their (Mapi and Patri) situation was different? Idk why some of you are hell bent on pinning the players against each other still. Stop glorifying some over the others. Mapi and Patri weren’t asked nicely to come back to the NT, they were forced out of threat of sanction. My mental health would be terrible in that situation. It’s really toxic that you think we should be forcing players to just show up. The fact that RFEF has the threat of sanction in their rules is wild enough to know this isn’t the fault of any of the players.
How Mapi and Patri were summoned to that camp was no different to how the rest of the players were summoned. The rest of the players stuck it out and worked for change though.
Also, no one is pitting the players against each other, just pointing out who is actually working to achieve change and who is sitting at home doing nothing to progress change while whinging to the media about their values,
which is essentially saying that their teammates have no values because they played in a World Cup.
DA. That's your interpretation, not something they've said.
And every nt break since oliva has had problems, all the Alexia drama made people forget that the federation didn't even sign a contract and had to change stadium 2 weeks before the game when some fans had already bought tickets and hotel rooms, previous break second half started with 2 less players on the other one they fuced up with the convo list and players couldn't play (including what would have been Paredes 100th cap). It seems that either there are still people with power on the rfef wanting to boycott the women's team or that they don't care and put incompetent people to work with them
Nobody has forgotten those things. An institution as chronically corrupt and misogynistic as the RFEF does not change overnight. The players have said that progress is very slow, but moving in the right direction. Those players are showing up and continue to fight for those changes from within, and are being the best team in the world on the pitch while they’re at it.
Okay so just to recap, Mapi and Patri acknowledged the agreements for changes to come during Oliva talks but they still walked away because they did not like how they were called up with threat of sanction. But didn't they also already addressed the changes to be made to that national call up sanction? i think there were moves being made already to get rid of that law or something and shouldn't be an issue anymore?
And now we know Markel has been talking to Patri and the others to come back. Patri has been on a PR roll lately, seems she's really trying to set the stage for her come back to NT. Which ok fine, but why does she have to give those low-key snarky remarks about her teammates lately? The NT squad has moved on and able to settle their differences to play and win 2 titles now. She's trying to come into the picture now while making those snarks and creating tension again. I don't know, I just feel like she can't just waltz in anytime she likes and leave them hanging anytime she doesn't want to stick by them.
As far as I remember, Mapi and Patri suggested that they would not come back until all of the changes were actually made, that an agreement to change was not enough. I say suggested, because I don’t think that they stated that explicitly, but I don’t remember for sure. They have not been clear on what it is that they actually want through this entire process. Now, Patri is definitely making moves to come back. All of the changes are not made. Both Markel and Jenni said that in the mixed zone at the recent camp. Markel specified that some things cannot happen until after the elections, and Jenni just said that progress was very slow but was moving in the right direction. So, why is Patri coming back? Well, she can see that this team is capable of winning despite everything around them. They have a great chance to win the Olympics and the Euros, and I guess that she doesn’t want to miss out again.
Have to admit that I’ve never liked Mapi, and I think that the NT locker room is probably better off without her. I used to like Patri, but have completely lost respect for her for how she’s treated her colleagues on this one. Especially if she just turns around and comes back now after everything. I also think that she influenced Pina, who is a young player without the NT status that Mapi and Patri had. I can see Pina being left without a senior NT career completely.
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Didn’t Irene say their (Mapi and Patri) situation was different? Idk why some of you are hell bent on pinning the players against each other still. Stop glorifying some over the others. Mapi and Patri weren’t asked nicely to come back to the NT, they were forced out of threat of sanction. My mental health would be terrible in that situation. It’s really toxic that you think we should be forcing players to just show up. The fact that RFEF has the threat of sanction in their rules is wild enough to know this isn’t the fault of any of the players.
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How Mapi and Patri were summoned to that camp was no different to how the rest of the players were summoned. The rest of the players stuck it out and worked for change though.
Also, no one is pitting the players against each other, just pointing out who is actually working to achieve change and who is sitting at home doing nothing to progress change while whinging to the media about their values, [b]which is essentially saying that their teammates have no values because they played in a World Cup.[/b]
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DA. That's your interpretation, not something they've said.
And every nt break since oliva has had problems, all the Alexia drama made people forget that the federation didn't even sign a contract and had to change stadium 2 weeks before the game when some fans had already bought tickets and hotel rooms, previous break second half started with 2 less players on the other one they fuced up with the convo list and players couldn't play (including what would have been Paredes 100th cap). It seems that either there are still people with power on the rfef wanting to boycott the women's team or that they don't care and put incompetent people to work with them
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Nobody has forgotten those things. An institution as chronically corrupt and misogynistic as the RFEF does not change overnight. The players have said that progress is very slow, but moving in the right direction. Those players are showing up and continue to fight for those changes from within, and are being the best team in the world on the pitch while they’re at it.
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Okay so just to recap, Mapi and Patri acknowledged the agreements for changes to come during Oliva talks but they still walked away because they did not like how they were called up with threat of sanction. But didn't they also already addressed the changes to be made to that national call up sanction? i think there were moves being made already to get rid of that law or something and shouldn't be an issue anymore?
And now we know Markel has been talking to Patri and the others to come back. Patri has been on a PR roll lately, seems she's really trying to set the stage for her come back to NT. Which ok fine, but why does she have to give those low-key snarky remarks about her teammates lately? The NT squad has moved on and able to settle their differences to play and win 2 titles now. She's trying to come into the picture now while making those snarks and creating tension again. I don't know, I just feel like she can't just waltz in anytime she likes and leave them hanging anytime she doesn't want to stick by them.
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As far as I remember, Mapi and Patri suggested that they would not come back until all of the changes were actually made, that an agreement to change was not enough. I say suggested, because I don’t think that they stated that explicitly, but I don’t remember for sure. They have not been clear on what it is that they actually want through this entire process. Now, Patri is definitely making moves to come back. All of the changes are not made. Both Markel and Jenni said that in the mixed zone at the recent camp. Markel specified that some things cannot happen until after the elections, and Jenni just said that progress was very slow but was moving in the right direction. So, why is Patri coming back? Well, she can see that this team is capable of winning despite everything around them. They have a great chance to win the Olympics and the Euros, and I guess that she doesn’t want to miss out again.
Have to admit that I’ve never liked Mapi, and I think that the NT locker room is probably better off without her. I used to like Patri, but have completely lost respect for her for how she’s treated her colleagues on this one. Especially if she just turns around and comes back now after everything. I also think that she influenced Pina, who is a young player without the NT status that Mapi and Patri had. I can see Pina being left without a senior NT career completely.