(although very likely straight/not lesbian) I would love this... My fave genre, female conductor

I was just thinking about this! I was going to ask if you kept going. What was your opinion on the lesbian storyline? I'm hoping you understood why I said it was important, but also didn’t have the best outcome.
I thought it was good. Obviously it was not what I was expecting, I assumed because I'd heard there was wlw rep in this that it'd be a relationship. However, I was okay with how it played out. [spoiler]I was actually happy Hwa Jeong got back together with her husband, especially after seeing the effect their separation was having on their son. Cho-Hui's storyline was also handled well so I wasn't really bothered that they kept her single. I think all the characters had great storylines. I really loved how it was just a show about people & their relationships & connections to other people. Very touching. I love all that sentimental drama.Guest wrote: ↑03 Nov 2022, 01:19I was just thinking about this! I was going to ask if you kept going. What was your opinion on the lesbian storyline? I'm hoping you understood why I said it was important, but also didn’t have the best outcome.
[spoiler]Guest wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 03:59[spoiler= Questions regarding Glitch]I have two questions regarding Glitch (Watching it right now and these questions were lingering in my mind)
1.
Is the symbol that we keep seeing supposed to represent something? The one that is formed in episode 2 by the butterflies and cockroaches.
2.
Glue sniffing was mentioned in the earlier episodes and I was wondering if that's supposed to be taken literal. Bo-ra so far hasn't acknowledged or entertained the idea that she talked her into it or that any of it was her fault. It's just Ji-Hyo who keeps mentioning it and Bo-Ra seems to be annoyed at being accused over something she (possibly) didn't do. At school a girl told Ji-Hyo that she shouldn't talk to Bo-Ra causes she "sniffed glue with the boys" and Ji-Hyo also blames her disappearance on "sniffing glue" as well (while the flashback just shows her consuming alcohol, the only substance Bo-ra mentioned in the past). Now what if sniffing glue isn't to be taken at face value, just like the aliens? What if it actually means getting intimate with someone? Perhaps a reason as to why in the flashbacks Bo-Ra is painted as a glue-sniffing delinquent and in the present she mentioned being bullied for being seen as a lesbian. We all know Ji-Hyo is quite the unreliable narrator and that she has major hangups about compulsory heteronormativity and the need to live a "normal life", so her pushing out of what happened during their special night together (possibly just a kiss, I mean they were kids) does seem plausible. Especially in the context of what the show is truly about.
[/spoiler]
No they have a gay couple but no wlw.
Yeah, I’m disappointed. I was optimistic when they chose that actress from Inspector Koo to play the character.Guest wrote: ↑07 Nov 2022, 17:17Regarding Behing Every Star aka, Korean Call My Agent. Looks like they made the lesbian character into straight, just saw the bar scene with Gabriel and she’s ignoring him talking and checking out a man (for those who watched the original, it’s just like it).
It’s a shame because it looks like they are copying every episode as it is, no original story whatsoever. Koreans are weaklings, such an advanced country and they are afraid of gay people
How many kdramas have you watched and how many of them included wlw?
I'm not looking for hot, passionate, canon wlw.Guest wrote: ↑08 Nov 2022, 06:13How many kdramas have you watched and how many of them included wlw?
And I don't mean web series.
I think its fair to say that if you want to watch a kdrama produced by and for a korean television network you are not going to be finding a wlw pot of gold in them.
Watch for the actresses in them, because many of them are damn good, and hope that the ones you like make a movie where they play a lez.
[spoiler]
There's a girl right next to you
And she's just waitin' for something to do
And there's a rose in a fisted glove
And the eagle flies with the dove
And if you can't be with the one you love, honey
Love the one you're with
Love the one you're with
Love the one you're with
[/spoiler]
DA.myka4hg wrote: ↑08 Nov 2022, 14:35I'm not looking for hot, passionate, canon wlw.Guest wrote: ↑08 Nov 2022, 06:13How many kdramas have you watched and how many of them included wlw?
And I don't mean web series.
I think its fair to say that if you want to watch a kdrama produced by and for a korean television network you are not going to be finding a wlw pot of gold in them.
Watch for the actresses in them, because many of them are damn good, and hope that the ones you like make a movie where they play a lez.
[spoiler]
There's a girl right next to you
And she's just waitin' for something to do
And there's a rose in a fisted glove
And the eagle flies with the dove
And if you can't be with the one you love, honey
Love the one you're with
Love the one you're with
Love the one you're with
[/spoiler]
I'll settle for "no heterosexual explanation for this" subtext.
Of which, Little Women, Green Mothers' Club, Glitch, All of Us Are Dead & Twenty Five, Twenty One all qualify.
Yep that will do, thank you very much!Guest wrote: ↑08 Nov 2022, 23:52DA.myka4hg wrote: ↑08 Nov 2022, 14:35I'm not looking for hot, passionate, canon wlw.Guest wrote: ↑08 Nov 2022, 06:13How many kdramas have you watched and how many of them included wlw?
And I don't mean web series.
I think its fair to say that if you want to watch a kdrama produced by and for a korean television network you are not going to be finding a wlw pot of gold in them.
Watch for the actresses in them, because many of them are damn good, and hope that the ones you like make a movie where they play a lez.
[spoiler]
There's a girl right next to you
And she's just waitin' for something to do
And there's a rose in a fisted glove
And the eagle flies with the dove
And if you can't be with the one you love, honey
Love the one you're with
Love the one you're with
Love the one you're with
[/spoiler]
I'll settle for "no heterosexual explanation for this" subtext.
Of which, Little Women, Green Mothers' Club, Glitch, All of Us Are Dead & Twenty Five, Twenty One all qualify.
How about Matrimonial Chaos? The sister of the main character (Inspector Koo) and her roommate (Attorney woo) are definitely gay for each other. They were working towards a reveal (especially after one came out as gay) but then sort of dropped the plotline until we found out that they attended a wedding together and also moved in together (though they move into an appartment with a mother and her kid too, which was probably to make it as tame as possible for the straights)
I love this Webdrama too and I think everyone should watch it and donate!Guest wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 06:29there’s this cute gl webdrama called “she makes my heart flutter” on youtube y’all should check out, there’s young lesbians, older lesbians, friendships, romances, family… so far lighthearted and funny but also heartwarming. same studio who made ‘out of breath’
so far theres 4 episodes out and there’s amusing details like the older character’s lesbian cafe bar business called “Dickinson’s room” and one friend asking her other friends to choose between han sohee and lee dahee as their ideal woman to go on a date (funnily enough the eng subs changed it kstew and cate lmao)
:Rofl: My expectation for the lesbian content here has been ZEROGuest wrote: ↑07 Nov 2022, 18:23Yeah, I’m disappointed. I was optimistic when they chose that actress from Inspector Koo to play the character.Guest wrote: ↑07 Nov 2022, 17:17Regarding Behing Every Star aka, Korean Call My Agent. Looks like they made the lesbian character into straight, just saw the bar scene with Gabriel and she’s ignoring him talking and checking out a man (for those who watched the original, it’s just like it).
It’s a shame because it looks like they are copying every episode as it is, no original story whatsoever. Koreans are weaklings, such an advanced country and they are afraid of gay people![]()
Damn I was looking forward to it. I'm bummed nowGuest wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 11:01:Rofl: My expectation for the lesbian content here has been ZEROGuest wrote: ↑07 Nov 2022, 18:23Yeah, I’m disappointed. I was optimistic when they chose that actress from Inspector Koo to play the character.Guest wrote: ↑07 Nov 2022, 17:17Regarding Behing Every Star aka, Korean Call My Agent. Looks like they made the lesbian character into straight, just saw the bar scene with Gabriel and she’s ignoring him talking and checking out a man (for those who watched the original, it’s just like it).
It’s a shame because it looks like they are copying every episode as it is, no original story whatsoever. Koreans are weaklings, such an advanced country and they are afraid of gay people![]()
(2021 was a truly bizarre year yes) I - don't watch drama other than some exceptions - don't know any of the main cast other than Lee Seo-jin. He is known to the mainstream, ordinary Koreans. Original Andrea has two things going on that's never going to go well with the ordinary masses. 1) Lesbian but also 2) Super slut
Yeah, I absolutely loved the ending [spoiler]They got their happy ending together and no men in sight[/spoiler]Guest wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:13Lchat, you didn't let me down.
Green Mother's Club is basically a GL TV show!
I couldn't believe it by the ending.
[spoiler]Even Eun Pyo's husband asked her, "what does this woman mean to you?"[/spoiler]
Can't believe I ever disbelieved you lchat!![]()
Glad you enjoyed it. It will always be one of my favourites. I think they did it so well, the ending is so open. It kinda lets you make of it what you want.Guest wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:13Lchat, you didn't let me down.
Green Mother's Club is basically a GL TV show!
I couldn't believe it by the ending.
[spoiler]Even Eun Pyo's husband asked her, "what does this woman mean to you?"[/spoiler]
Can't believe I ever disbelieved you lchat!![]()
I've finished watching FoE. It is a suspense rollercoaster and almost at the final episode there's a surprise. Granted, if you watch enough thriller police procedurals (be they British, American, or Scandinavian) you will figure out some of the mystery before the reveal, but where the stories differ is in the character arcs and the performance of the actors, and it's what keeps me watching to the end.Guest wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 08:09
Watching Flower of Evil on Netflix. It has suspense and the basic premise has been done before in movies and other tv series, but I'm at ep 5 and so far, so good.
(It's also a relief to watch a K drama that refrains from having scenes of men yelling to make a point or show anger, and during dining scenes don't have them eating like hogs at a trough.)
I'm watching FoE now too and it's promising! Good acting and thrilling and I like that Moon Chae-won plays a cool detectiveGuest wrote: ↑11 Nov 2022, 04:30I've finished watching FoE. It is a suspense rollercoaster and almost at the final episode there's a surprise. Granted, if you watch enough thriller police procedurals (be they British, American, or Scandinavian) you will figure out some of the mystery before the reveal, but where the stories differ is in the character arcs and the performance of the actors, and it's what keeps me watching to the end.Guest wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 08:09
Watching Flower of Evil on Netflix. It has suspense and the basic premise has been done before in movies and other tv series, but I'm at ep 5 and so far, so good.
(It's also a relief to watch a K drama that refrains from having scenes of men yelling to make a point or show anger, and during dining scenes don't have them eating like hogs at a trough.)
Moon Chae-won plays a detective who discovers that the man she fell in love with and married has a dangerous secret. I had not seen her in anything before now, and now I'm hooked.
I love it when series and movies feature strong women. When they stand up for themselves, when showing emotions doesn't turn into weakness, when they do what must be done even if it hurts, it rings my bells. Chae-won's character ticks all the right boxes in this series.Guest wrote: ↑11 Nov 2022, 11:28[spoiler][/spoiler]Guest wrote: ↑11 Nov 2022, 04:30I've finished watching FoE. It is a suspense rollercoaster and almost at the final episode there's a surprise. Granted, if you watch enough thriller police procedurals (be they British, American, or Scandinavian) you will figure out some of the mystery before the reveal, but where the stories differ is in the character arcs and the performance of the actors, and it's what keeps me watching to the end.Guest wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 08:09
Watching Flower of Evil on Netflix. It has suspense and the basic premise has been done before in movies and other tv series, but I'm at ep 5 and so far, so good.
(It's also a relief to watch a K drama that refrains from having scenes of men yelling to make a point or show anger, and during dining scenes don't have them eating like hogs at a trough.)
Moon Chae-won plays a detective who discovers that the man she fell in love with and married has a dangerous secret. I had not seen her in anything before now, and now I'm hooked.
I'm watching FoE now too and it's promising! Good acting and thrilling and I like that Moon Chae-won plays a cool detective
I hope so, too. The blind girl‘s story can’t be over yet.Guest wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 20:58omo, Naksu is pretty. I can't wait for AoS/2. I do hope Jung So Min reappears again.
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Yes, I really like how the trope is turned on its head and she's strong, able to show emotions, and yet[spoiler] the saviour of the male protagonist. [/spoiler] I mean, I'd nitpick that she was [spoiler]overly obsessed at turning his character into a good guy through 'the power of love' which seems to be a hetero thing where women think they can turn 'bad boys' into good people? Which is like a gateway to abuse. But otherwise good character[/spoiler]Guest wrote: ↑11 Nov 2022, 13:07I love it when series and movies feature strong women. When they stand up for themselves, when showing emotions doesn't turn into weakness, when they do what must be done even if it hurts, it rings my bells. Chae-won's character ticks all the right boxes in this series.Guest wrote: ↑11 Nov 2022, 11:28[spoiler][/spoiler]Guest wrote: ↑11 Nov 2022, 04:30I've finished watching FoE. It is a suspense rollercoaster and almost at the final episode there's a surprise. Granted, if you watch enough thriller police procedurals (be they British, American, or Scandinavian) you will figure out some of the mystery before the reveal, but where the stories differ is in the character arcs and the performance of the actors, and it's what keeps me watching to the end.Guest wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 08:09
Watching Flower of Evil on Netflix. It has suspense and the basic premise has been done before in movies and other tv series, but I'm at ep 5 and so far, so good.
(It's also a relief to watch a K drama that refrains from having scenes of men yelling to make a point or show anger, and during dining scenes don't have them eating like hogs at a trough.)
Moon Chae-won plays a detective who discovers that the man she fell in love with and married has a dangerous secret. I had not seen her in anything before now, and now I'm hooked.
I'm watching FoE now too and it's promising! Good acting and thrilling and I like that Moon Chae-won plays a cool detective
I think it will be dealt with since she's the lost daughter of the powerful sorceress and the impostor was busted. They can't just drop it as if the revelation of her powers didn't happen. Jung So-min is supposed to appear in a guest role in s2.
[spoiler]"overly obsessed at turning his character into a good guy through 'the power of love"Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 04:18Yes, I really like how the trope is turned on its head and she's strong, able to show emotions, and yet[spoiler] the saviour of the male protagonist. [/spoiler] I mean, I'd nitpick that she was [spoiler]overly obsessed at turning his character into a good guy through 'the power of love' which seems to be a hetero thing where women think they can turn 'bad boys' into good people? Which is like a gateway to abuse. But otherwise good character[/spoiler]Guest wrote: ↑11 Nov 2022, 13:07I love it when series and movies feature strong women. When they stand up for themselves, when showing emotions doesn't turn into weakness, when they do what must be done even if it hurts, it rings my bells. Chae-won's character ticks all the right boxes in this series.Guest wrote: ↑11 Nov 2022, 11:28[spoiler][/spoiler]Guest wrote: ↑11 Nov 2022, 04:30I've finished watching FoE. It is a suspense rollercoaster and almost at the final episode there's a surprise. Granted, if you watch enough thriller police procedurals (be they British, American, or Scandinavian) you will figure out some of the mystery before the reveal, but where the stories differ is in the character arcs and the performance of the actors, and it's what keeps me watching to the end.Guest wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 08:09
Watching Flower of Evil on Netflix. It has suspense and the basic premise has been done before in movies and other tv series, but I'm at ep 5 and so far, so good.
(It's also a relief to watch a K drama that refrains from having scenes of men yelling to make a point or show anger, and during dining scenes don't have them eating like hogs at a trough.)
Moon Chae-won plays a detective who discovers that the man she fell in love with and married has a dangerous secret. I had not seen her in anything before now, and now I'm hooked.
I'm watching FoE now too and it's promising! Good acting and thrilling and I like that Moon Chae-won plays a cool detective
They can take it away from school textbooks, but can they take it away from youtube and the media?Guest wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 20:26They won’t give us anything like Mine while this government is in power.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
It will also be interesting to see if Go Younjung can deliver Naksu the way Jung So Min played her. Her character must match with JSM’s portrayel. A real challenge for an actress.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 07:42I think it will be dealt with since she's the lost daughter of the powerful sorceress and the impostor was busted. They can't just drop it as if the revelation of her powers didn't happen. Jung So-min is supposed to appear in a guest role in s2.
A little confused here, but JSM was portraying Naksu who is trap in Mueh-dok’s body, so technically she’s the House of Jin’s powerful missing daughter not the cold blooded assassin Naksu who was played by Go Younjung in the first episode. So it’s really GYJ is coming back to her original character, no? They are both not the same.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 13:17It will also be interesting to see if Go Younjung can deliver Naksu the way Jung So Min played her. Her character must match with JSM’s portrayel. A real challenge for an actress.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 07:42I think it will be dealt with since she's the lost daughter of the powerful sorceress and the impostor was busted. They can't just drop it as if the revelation of her powers didn't happen. Jung So-min is supposed to appear in a guest role in s2.
The spirit in Mu-deok's body was Naksu the whole time. She acted from Naksu's point of view and tried to achieve her goals. Mu-deok was in the same body but in the background. She had control of her body for a few seconds as they attempted to kill Mu-deok/Naksu in front of her mother. Apart from that, Naksu was always in control. Everything that has happened since Episode 1 has changed Naksu's entire spirit and character. Why would she come back like nothing happened to her?Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 13:36A little confused here, but JSM was portraying Naksu who is trap in Mueh-dok’s body, so technically she’s the House of Jin’s powerful missing daughter not the cold blooded assassin Naksu who was played by Go Younjung in the first episode. So it’s really GYJ is coming back to her original character, no? They are both not the same.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 13:17It will also be interesting to see if Go Younjung can deliver Naksu the way Jung So Min played her. Her character must match with JSM’s portrayel. A real challenge for an actress.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 07:42I think it will be dealt with since she's the lost daughter of the powerful sorceress and the impostor was busted. They can't just drop it as if the revelation of her powers didn't happen. Jung So-min is supposed to appear in a guest role in s2.
Thank you anon for explaining it. I think I’m going to rewatch season 1 again now. I did skip a lot during most of the het scenes and may have missed important parts.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 14:09The spirit in Mu-deok's body was Naksu the whole time. She acted from Naksu's point of view and tried to achieve her goals. Mu-deok was in the same body but in the background. She had control of her body for a few seconds as they attempted to kill Mu-deok/Naksu in front of her mother. Apart from that, Naksu was always in control. Everything that has happened since Episode 1 has changed Naksu's entire spirit and character. Why would she come back like nothing happened to her?Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 13:36A little confused here, but JSM was portraying Naksu who is trap in Mueh-dok’s body, so technically she’s the House of Jin’s powerful missing daughter not the cold blooded assassin Naksu who was played by Go Younjung in the first episode. So it’s really GYJ is coming back to her original character, no? They are both not the same.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 13:17It will also be interesting to see if Go Younjung can deliver Naksu the way Jung So Min played her. Her character must match with JSM’s portrayel. A real challenge for an actress.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 07:42I think it will be dealt with since she's the lost daughter of the powerful sorceress and the impostor was busted. They can't just drop it as if the revelation of her powers didn't happen. Jung So-min is supposed to appear in a guest role in s2.
When I was growing up no one talked about gender and sexual orientation, but that didn't stop me from preferring to be around girls more than boys. And it didn't stop me from being attracted to a girl. When I was at university I began to search where I could find women who were like me. And I did.Guest wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 20:26They won’t give us anything like Mine while this government is in power.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 15:40Thank you anon for explaining it. I think I’m going to rewatch season 1 again now. I did skip a lot during most of the het scenes and may have missed important parts.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 14:09The spirit in Mu-deok's body was Naksu the whole time. She acted from Naksu's point of view and tried to achieve her goals. Mu-deok was in the same body but in the background. She had control of her body for a few seconds as they attempted to kill Mu-deok/Naksu in front of her mother. Apart from that, Naksu was always in control. Everything that has happened since Episode 1 has changed Naksu's entire spirit and character. Why would she come back like nothing happened to her?Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 13:36A little confused here, but JSM was portraying Naksu who is trap in Mueh-dok’s body, so technically she’s the House of Jin’s powerful missing daughter not the cold blooded assassin Naksu who was played by Go Younjung in the first episode. So it’s really GYJ is coming back to her original character, no? They are both not the same.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 13:17It will also be interesting to see if Go Younjung can deliver Naksu the way Jung So Min played her. Her character must match with JSM’s portrayel. A real challenge for an actress.Guest wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 07:42
I think it will be dealt with since she's the lost daughter of the powerful sorceress and the impostor was busted. They can't just drop it as if the revelation of her powers didn't happen. Jung So-min is supposed to appear in a guest role in s2.![]()
this was great indeed! i also laughed a lot when they had that dahee/sohee moment (i understand korean so i didn't noticed the kstew/cate caps... but once i've seen the same translation for a hideko/sook-hee debate)Guest wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 10:33I love this Webdrama too and I think everyone should watch it and donate!Guest wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 06:29there’s this cute gl webdrama called “she makes my heart flutter” on youtube y’all should check out, there’s young lesbians, older lesbians, friendships, romances, family… so far lighthearted and funny but also heartwarming. same studio who made ‘out of breath’
so far theres 4 episodes out and there’s amusing details like the older character’s lesbian cafe bar business called “Dickinson’s room” and one friend asking her other friends to choose between han sohee and lee dahee as their ideal woman to go on a date (funnily enough the eng subs changed it kstew and cate lmao)
Do you understand Korean? That's hilarious about Lee Dahee and Han Sohee
The first series the studio made was also pretty great.
If only she got a Netflix deal haha
I was hoping Behind Every Star would have subtext too. They chose that actress on purpose! I'll check out Matrimonial Chaos, I want a good drama with female subtext too
Yes. If anyone can read Chinese, those four characters are exactly: 名不虛傳 too.Guest wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022, 17:09I can't read Korean and in English the title is "Live Up to Your Name". Is this how it really translates?
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