OP, oh hello hello 30s represent.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 00:10Another ahjumma! How old are you anon, if you don't mind me asking? I'm 29 years old so I guess in terms of kpop fandom, I'm ancientGuest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:54Regardless in what company I'll support her.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:27If she wants to have a solo career, either in music or acting, she needs to leave that company asap. I was still willing to give SM the benefit of the doubt, but the latest article dragging her and justifying her lack of solo activities and the fact that apparently it came from SM, really cemented it for me that SM has no intention of giving her a solo career.
I loved Janet Jackson and Irene's voice also gaves me the sensual and chill vibe that I get everytime I listen to Janet's track.
I can imagine Irene voice singing "That's the way love goes"
I'm an ahjumma here just googled Janet if some here alienated to her.
IRENE of RED VELVET
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Yeah, that's why I belelieved she wants to have the episode 2 of first time but SM ruined that to us.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 00:36Stayed outside in the cold making sculptures because she promised she would
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Yeah, of course it is very relevant IreneGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 01:08Since we’re all fans here and talking about that list, I have a question. How did people suddenly decide this wasn’t relevant when it seems that even SKs think it’s plausible? I asked a friend who lived there and she said the same thing due to how the language is written.
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Not saying it’s conclusive, but anons there were dismissing it completely.
When was it and who is this other woman? TIA!
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Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:37RELIEF.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 22:57Watched out they're here.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 22:46It's almost the same as control yourself your gayness is showing lol.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 21:38By baetokkis here in Irene thread.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 21:25Who is using Seulgi as a pawn? Am I missing something in our discussion here?
They generalized all baetokkis as an akgae in RV thread. Earlier I saw a post that she only cares about Irene tbh & don't fucking care about other members & some agreed on that. Now they were accusing us by using Seulgi as a pawn now. But I myself is a Seulgi stan at the same time as a Seulrene believer, I choose to post here because I don't know anymore if that was a lesbian thread, fawning on the ladies strictly prohibited there, that's hard.
We already leave what's their fucking problem now? And their accusing us for long essays and yet when you go there just now they written one about baetokkis. The savage baetokkis hit a fucking nerve. I wonder how she will react now that we are going solo now.
That's what I feel now. I'm shocked to see Irene name in all caps in the Gen Discussion and my surprise that we have our own thread. I think the anon made this thread was like me, already had enough of all belittling they did there to Irene.
I apologized in all of baetokkis if somehow I came too strong and made a wrong impression as baetokki there, but I rather be called ignorant and disrespectful than reading all deragatory things they posted about Irene.
How can I let these pass?
RV don't need a leader they were not rookie anymore.
Irene doesn't have a strong vocals to go solo.
Lucky she's in SM or she be back in Daegu.
Not that words exactly but damn as a fan it just hurt.
I hope everyone is welcome here.
No baetokkis will left behind. ESL here so for as early as now if you all read poor english please bear with me. I just want to state my opinion on something.
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DAGuest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:18This is what ticks me off, like for the Only, they only had her do it bc they wanted to advertise their new guy, used an old SG pic of her, and disallowed her from taking part in the MV. She’s the only member to not even have an SM station.I can't wait for her to go solo tbh. I hate that she can't showcase her talent. Irene is the one being used as a pawn, Irene embodied that since debut. I do really hope she can have success on her own.
She just needs a place that will actually care about her personal and career development, we can do a lot to support her and generate revenue. We’ll buy her solo or Aseul 2, stream her videos, vote for her on those dumb competitions. But SM never gives us this, actually work to defame her at times, and pushes us to back the group instead. The day after they pushed an article that brought up the issue again, they announced the group CB. Perhaps even worse is how people make excuses for her getting/doing nothing, when she’s always wanted to do more, and is literally getting dragged because she’s inactive. Everyone has moved past it now.
Sorry for the rant.
I don't want to post blue bird drama here but that's basically all the thoughts of Baetokkis that I followed. Rant you hearts out I will gladly join. I'm tired of the injustice.
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Thank you! I will bring here what the other anon posted as well. About the stylist, what do we have on it? Any piece of evidence will be really apreciated, since IDK much about them. TIA!Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 00:43The purple friend story refers to this:Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 00:31Thanks for posting it here anon Do any of you have that explanation about the purple friend? It would be nice for new fans to know about it and see it on here. I think it was posted on the other thread but I can't find it. TIA!IRENE of RED VELVET wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 19:03Credit to the original poster on another thread.
Irene lesbian activities as of now, please feel free to add.
+ purple friend
+ Yeri saying rainbow is Irene’s fave colour and Irene got really upset about it
+ talked a bunch of times about watching the notebook only for rachel McAdams and particularly her pretty smile
+ Joy said she never talks when the girls discuss men
+ never mentioned a man, ever, uses gender neutral terms to describe her ideal type
+ biting her lip @ red dress Joy
+ Stacy
+ DJ note that actual gay, non rvlv Koreans think is legit lolol
+ suspicious relationship with stylist
+ struggles to draw a bad boy
+ read the price of salt
+ was a moderator on a forum for aspiring idols where she had girls confessing to her and Irene saying she was blushing
+ laughing and smiling at a female fan jokingly calling her her gf
+ dreamed of becoming an announcer only because of an unnie
+ is quick to dismiss big het rumors and speculations about her. like the one with bogum.
+ "wish tree" is her favorite mv of their career. in the mv a girl is in love with her female best friend but ultimately never declares because said best friend is straight
+ watched "wish tree" enough times to be able to recognize the tomboyish actress when they later on worked together for the webseries
+ has stated on different occasions that she wants to play a tomboyish character
+ looked indifferent when all the girls were gushing about erik. to the point that they cut her out of the frame at times because she didn't fit with the whole "girls crushing" joke.
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Irene used to wear a friendship/couple ring with her until late 2018, which is around the time she started hanging out more with a stylist.
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OP sorry I was talking about the list of evidence, haha. When this clip and what she supposedly wrote was originally found out, in like November 2020 (there was a twitter thread of Irene questionable moments), a lot of people on the old thread felt were talking about it as something relevant, but I feel like people have dismissed it ever since, and I don’t get why…particularly if SKs themselves think it’s plausible.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 01:39having a hard time understanding your post. anons where and dismissing what?Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 01:08Since we’re all fans here and talking about that list, I have a question. How did people suddenly decide this wasn’t relevant when it seems that even SKs think it’s plausible? I asked a friend who lived there and she said the same thing due to how the language is written.
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This was her earlier.
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Not saying it’s conclusive, but anons there were dismissing it completely.
As for the list, it's like the equivalent of us here on this forum voting on lchat hot 100. There's an actress equivalent to it too. I find this list fluctuates based on gay content, dating exposure and scandals and shifts in new popular girls, so I wouldn't take it as evidence of anything other than women being really into her and also hoping she's les/bi. they don't have any more insight than we do - we might even have more than they do
I will say there are at least some people in korea have been wondering since debut and the number has grown since then. There's a lot of lesbian rv fans and shippers and truthers out there so I can see why she'd consistently rank high. are you trying to say that her being number one so often is for another reason other than popularity?
As for the top 100 thing (not my original point but fun to discuss ), I don’t take it very seriously, but I’m not sure that I agree that they wouldn’t have any more insight. It just might not be visible on an open forum (for example, the linked tweet has 170 private quotes, and there’s KKT), and obviously they know the culture. It did surprise me that Irene stayed no. 1 and got more votes despite her issue, S00jin dropped a lot, and while that issue isn’t regarded as badly as school bullying, it’s still not perceived well. The increased wondering you mention and these results make me curious about whether they could have been increased circulation of stuff we have also seen or additional info.
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As someone who's gonna be 30 in seven months, I'm glad that there are more anons in their 30s here, I don't feel so out of place anymore it'd be cool if someone made a poll to know what's the age range of this thread, just for fun, I'm a little curious to know if she has more fans (in this thread) in their 20s, 30s or 10sGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 01:42OP, oh hello hello 30s represent.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 00:10Another ahjumma! How old are you anon, if you don't mind me asking? I'm 29 years old so I guess in terms of kpop fandom, I'm ancientGuest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:54Regardless in what company I'll support her.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:27If she wants to have a solo career, either in music or acting, she needs to leave that company asap. I was still willing to give SM the benefit of the doubt, but the latest article dragging her and justifying her lack of solo activities and the fact that apparently it came from SM, really cemented it for me that SM has no intention of giving her a solo career.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:09
I can't wait for her to go solo tbh. I hate that she can't showcase her talent. Irene is the one being used as a pawn, Irene embodied that since debut. I do really hope she can have success on her own.
I loved Janet Jackson and Irene's voice also gaves me the sensual and chill vibe that I get everytime I listen to Janet's track.
I can imagine Irene voice singing "That's the way love goes"
I'm an ahjumma here just googled Janet if some here alienated to her.
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Oh I didn't get the vibe people dismissed it since people were always using it as proof that her type was not women like amber/jaejae.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 02:07OP sorry I was talking about the list of evidence, haha. When this clip and what she supposedly wrote was originally found out, in like November 2020 (there was a twitter thread of Irene questionable moments), a lot of people on the old thread felt were talking about it as something relevant, but I feel like people have dismissed it ever since, and I don’t get why…particularly if SKs themselves think it’s plausible.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 01:39having a hard time understanding your post. anons where and dismissing what?Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 01:08Since we’re all fans here and talking about that list, I have a question. How did people suddenly decide this wasn’t relevant when it seems that even SKs think it’s plausible? I asked a friend who lived there and she said the same thing due to how the language is written.
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This was her earlier.
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Not saying it’s conclusive, but anons there were dismissing it completely.
As for the list, it's like the equivalent of us here on this forum voting on lchat hot 100. There's an actress equivalent to it too. I find this list fluctuates based on gay content, dating exposure and scandals and shifts in new popular girls, so I wouldn't take it as evidence of anything other than women being really into her and also hoping she's les/bi. they don't have any more insight than we do - we might even have more than they do
I will say there are at least some people in korea have been wondering since debut and the number has grown since then. There's a lot of lesbian rv fans and shippers and truthers out there so I can see why she'd consistently rank high. are you trying to say that her being number one so often is for another reason other than popularity?
As for the top 100 thing (not my original point but fun to discuss ), I don’t take it very seriously, but I’m not sure that I agree that they wouldn’t have any more insight. It just might not be visible on an open forum (for example, the linked tweet has 170 private quotes, and there’s KKT), and obviously they know the culture. It did surprise me that Irene stayed no. 1 and got more votes despite her issue, S00jin dropped a lot, and while that issue isn’t regarded as badly as school bullying, it’s still not perceived well. The increased wondering you mention and these results make me curious about whether they could have been increased circulation of stuff we have also seen or additional info.
[spoiler]from what I saw the wondering increased due to some of the things we know - her love of butts, her reaction around men, lack of dating rumors, the purple friend thing, the book incident (feminists basically = lesbians to those moids bc lesbians usually are). And also just more exposure in general, as her profile increased there were more posts about her - wider public awareness etc. stuff like that clip and other little clips here and there usually just circulate within twitter. public forums is mostly just general info - occasionally they get stuff from twitter, but idk about public forums and as you noted, there's a lot of private quotes on that tweet. same thing with a tweet going around with the jeju pics. I'm so curious to know what people outside of seulrene shippers think...and speaking of seulrene that's another thing I've noticed people will make suggestive or joke(?) posts and comments about seulrene. makes me wonder if people see what shippers see/ lowkey think shippers might be onto something [/spoiler]
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I can't with 10sGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 02:25As someone who's gonna be 30 in seven months, I'm glad that there are more anons in their 30s here, I don't feel so out of place anymore it'd be cool if someone made a poll to know what's the age range of this thread, just for fun, I'm a little curious to know if she has more fans (in this thread) in their 20s, 30s or 10sGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 01:42OP, oh hello hello 30s represent.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 00:10Another ahjumma! How old are you anon, if you don't mind me asking? I'm 29 years old so I guess in terms of kpop fandom, I'm ancientGuest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:54Regardless in what company I'll support her.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:27
If she wants to have a solo career, either in music or acting, she needs to leave that company asap. I was still willing to give SM the benefit of the doubt, but the latest article dragging her and justifying her lack of solo activities and the fact that apparently it came from SM, really cemented it for me that SM has no intention of giving her a solo career.
I loved Janet Jackson and Irene's voice also gaves me the sensual and chill vibe that I get everytime I listen to Janet's track.
I can imagine Irene voice singing "That's the way love goes"
I'm an ahjumma here just googled Janet if some here alienated to her.
Are we multiplying now by 10s??? Kidding aside, I was the anon who welcome the gaybies on the other thread. My gay heart can't fucking let them go astray.
Turning 32 so we are the unnie line.
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Anon, please appreciate my arduous journey with the L chat search function to find everythingGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 01:58Thank you! I will bring here what the other anon posted as well. About the stylist, what do we have on it? Any piece of evidence will be really apreciated, since IDK much about them. TIA!
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Suss things:
+ matching cases
+ matching shoes
+ Ir3ne extending paris trip, then staying together, flying out together
+ spur of the moment expensive 5k Chanel bag purchase for her at the airport
+ went with Ir3ne to buy the bear lamp for Seulgi and flowers
+ celebrated alone on Ir3ne’s birthday, gave her flowers that Irene talked about twice on lysn on her birthday
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+ stylist spent her birthday with Ir3ne
+ Ir3ne dropped the purple friend ring around the time she started hanging with her
other things
- stopped posting photos together mid-2020 (pre-scandal)
- stylist acquired a bf in later 2020
So she all of a sudden became besties with this woman with whom she only worked a few times, got a bunch of matching items with her, went to Paris with her, bought her expensive stuff on the fly, celebrated her birthday with her alone (for both of them), went to buy presents for her friend with her, and then it sort of suddenly stopped. All of this together with Ir3ne’s documented tendencies and the way she acted with her.
Posts where it was discussed more:
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https://thelchat.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... tart=17465
https://thelchat.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... tart=19075
There you go anon, I was rooting for 2Hyun for the longest time until they like...stopped lol. Those are a few instances I could think of (Paris trip, Seulgi's birthday, Irene's birthday), I'm pretty sure there's a video floating around somewhere of Irene buying her an expensive Chanel bag at the airport, and that Forkie toy that hyunny shared on her instagram. And there were couple items too.
Perhaps they dated and broke up, or were merely working together bc Hyunny was also Irene's stylist at the time I think though I'm not sure for which event
Old post on Paris trip:
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I initially shrugged it off with the couple stuff, and Irene spending money for their matching items, because Irene is known for her generous gestures.
But when Irene stayed behind with Hyunny in Paris, just the two of them in a foreign country without apparent schedule. Based on Hyunny's IG, they probably gazed at the Eiffel Tower (hello, romantic?), had fries n' steak, cruised the streets of Paris, ate breakfast the next day, went shopping in Le Bon March - together. Those ARE the kinds of things I want SeulRene to do together!
The Eiffel Tower. <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>(You know how couples come back from the Eiffel Tower engaged? jk )</span>
Plus Irene possibly being the woman on Hyunny's phone. And then this IG story. If they are actually dating, that would be so awesome. They both seem fond of each other.
Gifs of Irene with her:
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I guess there's a chance they could've had an intense emotional friendship but
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She's extra wonderful that night. Especially in motion I can't over with that RBB & Bad Boy performance.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 03:00
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She’s seriously among the most beautiful women that I have ever see.
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About that, many baetokkis on twitter believe that the FT series was supposed to be Irene's, at least initially, but then it was decided that it would be a group thing. What are your thoughts on that?Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:53Reported ^^^^
But for the record, any rvlv who thinks singing ability is the limiting factor for a solo is delusional. 4/6 Apink members debuted solo, 2 who are emphatically not part of the vocal line. Last year, the debut of another female soloist also criticized for weak singing skills sold a record amount of albums. Hell, even Hyoyeon had a solo.
Obviously all baetokkis support her interest in acting, but she does enjoy singing and performing and previously talked about wanting to write song lyrics. Also, given that being an idol has been her job for the last 8 years, if they actually wanted to help her become active again (something that she’s getting dragged for), it would be so, so simple for them to offer her musical opportunities. SM station is so easy to set up and she’s the only member to not have one. But hell, they couldn’t even give her a vlog, so…
Personally, I think it's possible, maybe the original plan was to make it an Irene vlog, that would explain Irene asking immediately for suggestions after her episode aired, it would also explain Irene's words ("I will be filming a series about it" not "we will be filming a series about it" or "I will be filming an episode of this series ). Idk, maybe when Irene went to bubble to talk about the vlog series, she was still under the impression that it would be an individual project? But then again, Wendy also said that they (wenseul) would be back for a new episode, so I think it's also possible that fans misunderstood Irene's words
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DAGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 00:28Omg, I remember you, those arguments were so weird. They were mad that we weren’t “calling her out” and yelling about “double standards.” Well, the standards are set by the fans, and if baetokkis who subscribe are happy with what they get, why does it matter?Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 00:06DAGuest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 22:46Anon, you can be an OT5 baetokki! Baetokki just means Irene fan.
But yeah, saw that too. I think they just have an issue with people happily supporting her and enjoying her content, as fans. That’s what it comes down to…when we were all in one place, they could be belligerent about it and push their views, but we just took ourselves out of the equation so they have to accept people prefer this.
I'm the anon that often times posting there that it's totally fine and I accepted that she's barely on bbl. Yet I spent just remain subscribed and hoping for a little interaction with her. Like they expected me to drop her that's impossible.
Feel you on the interactions stuff . Personally, I find it hard to get upset or drop her for it, even if I definitely miss her, because she’s not the type of person who talks just to talk and she literally has nothing to share… I think she tries her best with the snow sculptures and reading every message.
She's trying the best she can. But we can't dismiss the fact that sometimes I feel she put us on edge. Like she will say Hi, how's your day and then bam a cb.
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All you poor anon learned to used spoiler cause the unnecessary policing on the other thread. Again you don't need to put those glorous photos of baechu. What a glory day.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 03:39She’s seriously among the most beautiful women that I have ever see.
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DA it's better if gifspams and twitter posts go under spoilers. it's difficult to load for those of us on mobileGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 03:48All you poor anon learned to used spoiler cause the unnecessary policing on the other thread. Again you don't need to put those glorous photos of baechu. What a glory day.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 03:39She’s seriously among the most beautiful women that I have ever see.
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Never got interest in Kpop before but back reading in this thread to see what's up about SK lesbian seen. Wow their choices was impeccable. Please give me the fresh course for beginner here about her band. Gracias.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 17:49She's well loved
June is the ‘Pride Month’ of the LGBTQ+ community. Every year on this occasion, a Twitter account organizes a poll for the Korean lesbian, bisexual and queer female community to find out which female K-pop idol they love the most. This year’s vote attracted 4,446 participants and a total of 17,105 votes were counted as valid (one person can vote for more than 1 idol).
Last year, Irene (Red Velvet) led the chart, No.2 belonged to seulgi (Red Velvet) and No.3 belonged to Soojin ((G)I-DLE). By 2021, will these female idols be able to maintain their ranking performance? Who has now won more love from lesbians in Korea? And will rookie girl groups be able to make it to the top?
Let’s take a look at the Top 100 chart below:
From #100 to #1
100. Soojin ((G)I-DLE)
99. Zoa (Weeekly)
98. Umji (GFRIEND)
97. Yein (Lovelyz)
96. Amber (f(x))
95. Dami (Dreamcatcher)
94. Choerry (LOONA)
93. Kim Lip (LOONA)
92. Sowon (GFRIEND)
91. Gain (Brown Eyed Girls)
90. Hyunjin (LOONA)
89. BIBI
88. Sua (Dreamcatcher)
87. Minkyung (Davichi)
86. Jeongyeon (TWICE)
85. Haeri (Davichi)
84. Seohyun (SNSD)
83. Eunji (Apink)
82. Yuju (GFRIEND)
81. Yeoreum (WJSN)
80. Chaeyoung (TWICE)
79. Yerin (GFRIEND)
78. Siyeon (Dreamcatcher)
77. Jihan (Weeekly)
76. Sejeong (gugudan)
75. Kang Hyewon (IZ*ONE)
74. Lia (ITZY)
73. NingNing (aespa)
72. Miyawaki Sakura (IZ*ONE)
71. Sieun (STAYC)
70. Jiu (Dreamcatcher)
69. Hyojung (OH MY GIRL)
68. SinB (GFRIEND)
67. Mina (TWICE)
66. Eunha (GFRIEND)
65. Sumin (STAYC)
64. Jo Yuri (IZ*ONE)
63. Gowon (LOONA)
62. Jang Wonyoung (IZ*ONE)
61. Gyuri (fromis_9)
60. Mimi (OH MY GIRL)
59. Lisa (BLACKPINK)
58. Seunghee (OH MY GIRL)
57. Choi Yena (IZ*ONE)
56. Chaeryeong (ITZY)
55. Sunmi
54. YoonA (SNSD)
53. YooA (OH MY GIRL)
52. Tiffany (SNSD)
51. Chungha
50. Seeun (STAYC)
49. Nayeon (TWICE)
48. Doyeon (Weki Meki)
47. Arin (OH MY GIRL)
46. Binnie (OH MY GIRL)
45. Isa (STAYC)
44. Jennie (BLACKPINK)
43. Yeji (ITZY)
42. Exy (WJSN)
41. Giselle (aespa)
40. Heejin (LOONA)
39. J (STAYC)
38. Krystal (f(x))
37. Ahn Yujin (IZ*ONE)
36. Soyeon ((G)I-DLE)
35. Yuna (ITZY)
34. Eunseo (WJSN)
33. Kim Chaewon (IZ*ONE)
32. Chuu (LOONA)
31. Yves (LOONA)
30. Jiho (OH MY GIRL)
29. Kim Minju (IZ*ONE)
28. Yuqi ((G)I-DLE)
27. Luda (WJSN)
26. Jisoo (BLACKPINK)
25. Yoon (STAYC)
24. Sana (TWICE)
23. IU
22. Rosé (BLACKPINK)
21. Yeri (Red Velvet)
20. Soojin ((G)I-DLE)
19. Olivia Hye (LOONA)
18. Kwon Eunbi (IZ*ONE)
17. Minnie ((G)I-DLE)
16. Joy (Red Velvet)
15. Taeyeon (SNSD)
14. Shuhua ((G)I-DLE)
13. Winter (aespa)
12. Solar (MAMAMOO)
11. Hwasa (MAMAMOO)
10. Bona (WJSN)
9. Karina (aespa)
8. Wendy (Red Velvet)
7. Ryujin (ITZY)
6. Wheein (MAMAMOO)
5. Miyeon ((G)I-DLE)
4. Moonbyul (MAMAMOO)
3. Seulgi (Red Velvet)
2. Seola (WJSN)
1. Irene (Red Velvet)
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Oops sorry I thought we are all here on desktop using multiple tabs during work.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 03:54DA it's better if gifspams and twitter posts go under spoilers. it's difficult to load for those of us on mobileGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 03:48All you poor anon learned to used spoiler cause the unnecessary policing on the other thread. Again you don't need to put those glorous photos of baechu. What a glory day.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 03:39She’s seriously among the most beautiful women that I have ever see.
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Don't mind me I'm just in jovial mood.
Irene & Solo ( thread ), then what's next Irene & Solo ( album )
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^^anon I'm on 21" desktop never so fast to used the mouse.
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Is this a board friendly for Joyrene stan?
Maybe we were the very least in the demographic but I like it here so far no hostility. Rain check before I post.
Maybe we were the very least in the demographic but I like it here so far no hostility. Rain check before I post.
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Everybody's welcome just keep it gay.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:19Is this a board friendly for Joyrene stan?
Maybe we were the very least in the demographic but I like it here so far no hostility. Rain check before I post.
It looks like many were happy for a separate thread. But I fear that this will be closed. I checked the complain board and they questioned why Irene got an individual thread but Jisoo can't. I do hope moderators let this open.
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I had an editted photo from this shoot, very similar side profile pic, as my wallpaper and deleted it. I wish I hadn’t
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Bienvenidas!!!Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 03:56Never got interest in Kpop before but back reading in this thread to see what's up about SK lesbian seen. Wow their choices was impeccable. Please give me the fresh course for beginner here about her band. Gracias.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 17:49She's well loved
June is the ‘Pride Month’ of the LGBTQ+ community. Every year on this occasion, a Twitter account organizes a poll for the Korean lesbian, bisexual and queer female community to find out which female K-pop idol they love the most. This year’s vote attracted 4,446 participants and a total of 17,105 votes were counted as valid (one person can vote for more than 1 idol).
Last year, Irene (Red Velvet) led the chart, No.2 belonged to seulgi (Red Velvet) and No.3 belonged to Soojin ((G)I-DLE). By 2021, will these female idols be able to maintain their ranking performance? Who has now won more love from lesbians in Korea? And will rookie girl groups be able to make it to the top?
Let’s take a look at the Top 100 chart below:
From #100 to #1
100. Soojin ((G)I-DLE)
99. Zoa (Weeekly)
98. Umji (GFRIEND)
97. Yein (Lovelyz)
96. Amber (f(x))
95. Dami (Dreamcatcher)
94. Choerry (LOONA)
93. Kim Lip (LOONA)
92. Sowon (GFRIEND)
91. Gain (Brown Eyed Girls)
90. Hyunjin (LOONA)
89. BIBI
88. Sua (Dreamcatcher)
87. Minkyung (Davichi)
86. Jeongyeon (TWICE)
85. Haeri (Davichi)
84. Seohyun (SNSD)
83. Eunji (Apink)
82. Yuju (GFRIEND)
81. Yeoreum (WJSN)
80. Chaeyoung (TWICE)
79. Yerin (GFRIEND)
78. Siyeon (Dreamcatcher)
77. Jihan (Weeekly)
76. Sejeong (gugudan)
75. Kang Hyewon (IZ*ONE)
74. Lia (ITZY)
73. NingNing (aespa)
72. Miyawaki Sakura (IZ*ONE)
71. Sieun (STAYC)
70. Jiu (Dreamcatcher)
69. Hyojung (OH MY GIRL)
68. SinB (GFRIEND)
67. Mina (TWICE)
66. Eunha (GFRIEND)
65. Sumin (STAYC)
64. Jo Yuri (IZ*ONE)
63. Gowon (LOONA)
62. Jang Wonyoung (IZ*ONE)
61. Gyuri (fromis_9)
60. Mimi (OH MY GIRL)
59. Lisa (BLACKPINK)
58. Seunghee (OH MY GIRL)
57. Choi Yena (IZ*ONE)
56. Chaeryeong (ITZY)
55. Sunmi
54. YoonA (SNSD)
53. YooA (OH MY GIRL)
52. Tiffany (SNSD)
51. Chungha
50. Seeun (STAYC)
49. Nayeon (TWICE)
48. Doyeon (Weki Meki)
47. Arin (OH MY GIRL)
46. Binnie (OH MY GIRL)
45. Isa (STAYC)
44. Jennie (BLACKPINK)
43. Yeji (ITZY)
42. Exy (WJSN)
41. Giselle (aespa)
40. Heejin (LOONA)
39. J (STAYC)
38. Krystal (f(x))
37. Ahn Yujin (IZ*ONE)
36. Soyeon ((G)I-DLE)
35. Yuna (ITZY)
34. Eunseo (WJSN)
33. Kim Chaewon (IZ*ONE)
32. Chuu (LOONA)
31. Yves (LOONA)
30. Jiho (OH MY GIRL)
29. Kim Minju (IZ*ONE)
28. Yuqi ((G)I-DLE)
27. Luda (WJSN)
26. Jisoo (BLACKPINK)
25. Yoon (STAYC)
24. Sana (TWICE)
23. IU
22. Rosé (BLACKPINK)
21. Yeri (Red Velvet)
20. Soojin ((G)I-DLE)
19. Olivia Hye (LOONA)
18. Kwon Eunbi (IZ*ONE)
17. Minnie ((G)I-DLE)
16. Joy (Red Velvet)
15. Taeyeon (SNSD)
14. Shuhua ((G)I-DLE)
13. Winter (aespa)
12. Solar (MAMAMOO)
11. Hwasa (MAMAMOO)
10. Bona (WJSN)
9. Karina (aespa)
8. Wendy (Red Velvet)
7. Ryujin (ITZY)
6. Wheein (MAMAMOO)
5. Miyeon ((G)I-DLE)
4. Moonbyul (MAMAMOO)
3. Seulgi (Red Velvet)
2. Seola (WJSN)
1. Irene (Red Velvet)
For me, better watch SM Rookies Irene and Seulgi on yt for introductory course. But if you're open to beginners but intense course just simply type Irene & Seulgi Monster MV then Naughty MV, I wish a pleasant day after watching that.
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OMG you are an angel! Thank you hun Your hard work is really appreciated and necessary for this threadGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 03:19Anon, please appreciate my arduous journey with the L chat search function to find everythingGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 01:58Thank you! I will bring here what the other anon posted as well. About the stylist, what do we have on it? Any piece of evidence will be really apreciated, since IDK much about them. TIA!
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Summary:
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Suss things:
+ matching cases
+ matching shoes
+ Ir3ne extending paris trip, then staying together, flying out together
+ spur of the moment expensive 5k Chanel bag purchase for her at the airport
+ went with Ir3ne to buy the bear lamp for Seulgi and flowers
+ celebrated alone on Ir3ne’s birthday, gave her flowers that Irene talked about twice on lysn on her birthday
[spoiler] "I made this flowerhandtied for @.renebaebae . I hope she was happy with my flowers. [/spoiler]
+ stylist spent her birthday with Ir3ne
+ Ir3ne dropped the purple friend ring around the time she started hanging with her
other things
- stopped posting photos together mid-2020 (pre-scandal)
- stylist acquired a bf in later 2020
So she all of a sudden became besties with this woman with whom she only worked a few times, got a bunch of matching items with her, went to Paris with her, bought her expensive stuff on the fly, celebrated her birthday with her alone (for both of them), went to buy presents for her friend with her, and then it sort of suddenly stopped. All of this together with Ir3ne’s documented tendencies and the way she acted with her.
Posts where it was discussed more:
[spoiler][/spoiler]Guest wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 07:02https://thelchat.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... tart=10675Guest wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 05:53can anyone kindly direct me to the pages where you discussed 2Hyun? i just found out about this recently and is obsessed and need to know more. i love seulrene but this is more believable than group members dating each other tbh.
https://thelchat.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... tart=17465
https://thelchat.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... tart=19075
There you go anon, I was rooting for 2Hyun for the longest time until they like...stopped lol. Those are a few instances I could think of (Paris trip, Seulgi's birthday, Irene's birthday), I'm pretty sure there's a video floating around somewhere of Irene buying her an expensive Chanel bag at the airport, and that Forkie toy that hyunny shared on her instagram. And there were couple items too.
Perhaps they dated and broke up, or were merely working together bc Hyunny was also Irene's stylist at the time I think though I'm not sure for which event
Old post on Paris trip:
[spoiler][/spoiler]Guest wrote:X2baehyunnie wrote:Her smile and stare were so seductive im melting every time I see it Why would she smile like that??? And directed to her stylist??? I'm not really convince these past few weeks about them dating but now...Guest wrote:
I initially shrugged it off with the couple stuff, and Irene spending money for their matching items, because Irene is known for her generous gestures.
But when Irene stayed behind with Hyunny in Paris, just the two of them in a foreign country without apparent schedule. Based on Hyunny's IG, they probably gazed at the Eiffel Tower (hello, romantic?), had fries n' steak, cruised the streets of Paris, ate breakfast the next day, went shopping in Le Bon March - together. Those ARE the kinds of things I want SeulRene to do together!
The Eiffel Tower. <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>(You know how couples come back from the Eiffel Tower engaged? jk )</span>
Plus Irene possibly being the woman on Hyunny's phone. And then this IG story. If they are actually dating, that would be so awesome. They both seem fond of each other.
Gifs of Irene with her:
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I guess there's a chance they could've had an intense emotional friendship but
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Literally and figuratively sexy.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:25Everybody's welcome just keep it gay.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:19Is this a board friendly for Joyrene stan?
Maybe we were the very least in the demographic but I like it here so far no hostility. Rain check before I post.
It looks like many were happy for a separate thread. But I fear that this will be closed. I checked the complain board and they questioned why Irene got an individual thread but Jisoo can't. I do hope moderators let this open.
Not to mentioned the well written Joyrene fanfic.
I riot if this thread will be closed. I just want to simp on my girls and not to be asked to tone it down.
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I feel you. How about me I'm on a public bus and then that gif., I never hide my cp that fast, felt like I'm watching lewd vid.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:13^^anon I'm on 21" desktop never so fast to used the mouse.
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Im with you. Not enough simping going on in the other thread. Sometimes I wonder if there are even lesbians on itGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:41Literally and figuratively sexy.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:25Everybody's welcome just keep it gay.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:19Is this a board friendly for Joyrene stan?
Maybe we were the very least in the demographic but I like it here so far no hostility. Rain check before I post.
It looks like many were happy for a separate thread. But I fear that this will be closed. I checked the complain board and they questioned why Irene got an individual thread but Jisoo can't. I do hope moderators let this open.
Not to mentioned the well written Joyrene fanfic.
I riot if this thread will be closed. I just want to simp on my girls and not to be asked to tone it down.
Can someone tell me how to post pics on here? I’ve not done it before
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DA this is sincerely something I’m not sure about either. The episode was titled Irene, which could suggest future episodes titled with the names of the other members, but it would also work as an introduction to Irene as a vlogger. And then her immediate solicitation of recommendations for the “next episode” and writing them down doesn’t really make sense if her next vlog is going to be in August. She sounded genuinely excited, too, she talked more about it than her first photoshoot in years.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 03:40About that, many baetokkis on twitter believe that the FT series was supposed to be Irene's, at least initially, but then it was decided that it would be a group thing. What are your thoughts on that?Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:53Reported ^^^^
But for the record, any rvlv who thinks singing ability is the limiting factor for a solo is delusional. 4/6 Apink members debuted solo, 2 who are emphatically not part of the vocal line. Last year, the debut of another female soloist also criticized for weak singing skills sold a record amount of albums. Hell, even Hyoyeon had a solo.
Obviously all baetokkis support her interest in acting, but she does enjoy singing and performing and previously talked about wanting to write song lyrics. Also, given that being an idol has been her job for the last 8 years, if they actually wanted to help her become active again (something that she’s getting dragged for), it would be so, so simple for them to offer her musical opportunities. SM station is so easy to set up and she’s the only member to not have one. But hell, they couldn’t even give her a vlog, so…
Personally, I think it's possible, maybe the original plan was to make it an Irene vlog, that would explain Irene asking immediately for suggestions after her episode aired, it would also explain Irene's words ("I will be filming a series about it" not "we will be filming a series about it" or "I will be filming an episode of this series ). Idk, maybe when Irene went to bubble to talk about the vlog series, she was still under the impression that it would be an individual project? But then again, Wendy also said that they (wenseul) would be back for a new episode, so I think it's also possible that fans misunderstood Irene's words
I think both fans misconstruing her words and the the success of her vlog prompting SM to extend the project to the others are both possible. Either way, it’s clear that she was excited about the project and anticipated filming and sharing new eps soon, which would’ve worked both for a solo project or a *well run* group project. SM manages to do the same thing for their boys pretty easily, so why not here? They seem to be particularly incompetent for female projects, they even lost a lot of footage for Ta*yeon’s CB.
I know some baetokkis think it could’ve been part of negotiations. It is interesting that she suddenly had stuff in December/early Jan and then nothing, and no, comeback or concert prep doesn’t make external activities impossible. It looked unusual even for her haters.
But ngl, I don’t think the details matter, either way it just reinforces something that we already knew: the company does not care about whatsoever.
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cute tweet
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context for the very bottom tweet - the first picture says puppies give their butts to people they like with a QRT saying but aren't people similar? so op posted pics of irene sitting that way
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context for the very bottom tweet - the first picture says puppies give their butts to people they like with a QRT saying but aren't people similar? so op posted pics of irene sitting that way
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Maybe other people can also say why it’s important and helpful there. Or not, because maybe the mods will get irritated? IDK, but people on the old thread also seem happier and want another thread, it’s a win-win.It looks like many were happy for a separate thread. But I fear that this will be closed. I checked the complain board and they questioned why Irene got an individual thread but Jisoo can't. I do hope moderators let this open.
Kisses to all of you
Source:
https://joytual.tumblr.com/post/636507 ... eon-irene
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It’s pretty easy, anon, just get the image url and put it in between . There are some sites like Twitter and tumblr that automatically get a preview, though, so it’s not necessary.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:46Im with you. Not enough simping going on in the other thread. Sometimes I wonder if there are even lesbians on itGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:41Literally and figuratively sexy.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:25Everybody's welcome just keep it gay.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:19Is this a board friendly for Joyrene stan?
Maybe we were the very least in the demographic but I like it here so far no hostility. Rain check before I post.
It looks like many were happy for a separate thread. But I fear that this will be closed. I checked the complain board and they questioned why Irene got an individual thread but Jisoo can't. I do hope moderators let this open.
Not to mentioned the well written Joyrene fanfic.
I riot if this thread will be closed. I just want to simp on my girls and not to be asked to tone it down.
Can someone tell me how to post pics on here? I’ve not done it before
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We were not too young to not know Ms. Nasty Janet, but tbh the song I knew about her is Together Again, how can I forget the abs of justice, my gaybies heart explode when I saw that, what a memories.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:54Regardless in what company I'll support her.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:27If she wants to have a solo career, either in music or acting, she needs to leave that company asap. I was still willing to give SM the benefit of the doubt, but the latest article dragging her and justifying her lack of solo activities and the fact that apparently it came from SM, really cemented it for me that SM has no intention of giving her a solo career.Guest wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 23:09I can't wait for her to go solo tbh. I hate that she can't showcase her talent. Irene is the one being used as a pawn, Irene embodied that since debut. I do really hope she can have success on her own.
I loved Janet Jackson and Irene's voice also gaves me the sensual and chill vibe that I get everytime I listen to Janet's track.
I can imagine Irene voice singing "That's the way love goes"
I'm an ahjumma here just googled Janet if some here alienated to her.
Yes I totally get the similarity in their voice especially if Irene use her low register, that's hot asf, the part of her on "Feel Good" was heavenly. The monlogue in her La Rogue performance, I never new regret like what I said before after knowing that performance existed.
Please exposed your age, but I know you won't you were shy and think that you were old for a forum, don't be. I'll try my investigative skill for fun,
That's The Way Love Goes released on 1993, that's 29 years ago and you said you're gaybies at that time maybe 9 - 12 yr old, if my computation was right you're 39 going 40? Not to exposed you, but I loved all baetokkis will be here and converse in one another.
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Fucking finally my people was here, horny baetokkis or appreciative baetokkis for better word. Let's all rejoice.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:46Im with you. Not enough simping going on in the other thread. Sometimes I wonder if there are even lesbians on itGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:41Literally and figuratively sexy.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:25Everybody's welcome just keep it gay.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:19Is this a board friendly for Joyrene stan?
Maybe we were the very least in the demographic but I like it here so far no hostility. Rain check before I post.
It looks like many were happy for a separate thread. But I fear that this will be closed. I checked the complain board and they questioned why Irene got an individual thread but Jisoo can't. I do hope moderators let this open.
Not to mentioned the well written Joyrene fanfic.
I riot if this thread will be closed. I just want to simp on my girls and not to be asked to tone it down.
Can someone tell me how to post pics on here? I’ve not done it before
I can't count on my hands how many times I read post there asking to hold our salivating, like WTF it's like you there's a whole enticing buffet you can look but you can't touch. Just thinking my hardship I can be saint.
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Tell me why those people living my dream.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 04:54cute tweet
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context for the very bottom tweet - the first picture says puppies give their butts to people they like with a QRT saying but aren't people similar? so op posted pics of irene sitting that way
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Irene + Women = My religion
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Joyrene anon, I salute you, idk if any couple can match their visuals
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I'm the anon who thought a poll for knowing the age range in this thread would be fun, so I decided to make one myself
https://linkto.run/p/XF3GG7B5
[spoiler]But please don't use the results as an excuse to make ageist comments, that should stay in the other thread[/spoiler]
https://linkto.run/p/XF3GG7B5
[spoiler]But please don't use the results as an excuse to make ageist comments, that should stay in the other thread[/spoiler]
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Please be honest with me, personally I want to show support on Irene in anyway, that's why I bought 5 Bloom version of her to be given to my fellow gaybies baetokkis. In this online concert is it worth it to purchase access? Or better save it for Irene AR cb version?
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Now I know why suddenly there's a separate thread, imagine a 30 - 40 year old grown ass women often called immature.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 05:28I'm the anon who thought a poll for knowing the age range in this thread would be fun, so I decided to make one myself
https://linkto.run/p/XF3GG7B5
[spoiler]But please don't use the results as an excuse to make ageist comments, that should stay in the other thread[/spoiler]
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We've been robbbed imagine the hotness of Krystal and Irene together, just a seconds of imagining that your on for a treat.
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This is just my opinion:Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 05:37[spoiler]
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Please be honest with me, personally I want to show support on Irene in anyway, that's why I bought 5 Bloom version of her to be given to my fellow gaybies baetokkis. In this online concert is it worth it to purchase access? Or better save it for Irene AR cb version?
Arguments for: Rvlvs think it shows SM that there’s still interest in RV so they might promote them more or support a World Tour. Irene also directly makes money from it.
Arguments against: 41 dollars is a ludicrous sum to pay for a livestream, SM doesn’t promote older groups well regardless of sales, RV doing well in Queendom didn’t seem to bring any benefit to Irene - she still disappeared until the vlog, and giving that terrible company so much money for a product that you don’t seem particularly interested in doesn’t make that much sense.
Buying Irene merch makes more sense to me, it shows her appeal, is something that you’ll probably enjoy even if briefly, and contributes to overall group sales which makes the group look profitable. But it’s up to you, I personally will not buy it and will only get the Korean album of there’s an Irene version. If the concert and albums + shipping were cheaper, I might consider buying them, but I don’t see the point if it’s so expensive and I’m not particularly pumped about it.
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It depends, if you wanna show support for the whole group, the online concert is the right answer. But if you wanna make an statement of sorts and show your support for Irene, maybe you should wait for the Irene AR version. All in all, both options are valid, tho I would probably choose the concert bc I think I would enjoy it more and who knows, this might be their last concert before the inevitable disbandment hiatus.Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 05:37
Please be honest with me, personally I want to show support on Irene in anyway, that's why I bought 5 Bloom version of her to be given to my fellow gaybies baetokkis. In this online concert is it worth it to purchase access? Or better save it for Irene AR cb version?
Both options benefit SM anyway, so just let your heart choose for you, anon.
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To some of the newer fans, have you seen this thread? This part is my favourite
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She really seems to love her female fans
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She really seems to love her female fans
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DAGuest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 06:03This is just my opinion:Guest wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 05:37[spoiler]
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Please be honest with me, personally I want to show support on Irene in anyway, that's why I bought 5 Bloom version of her to be given to my fellow gaybies baetokkis. In this online concert is it worth it to purchase access? Or better save it for Irene AR cb version?
Arguments for: Rvlvs think it shows SM that there’s still interest in RV so they might promote them more or support a World Tour. Irene also directly makes money from it.
Arguments against: 41 dollars is a ludicrous sum to pay for a livestream, SM doesn’t promote older groups well regardless of sales, RV doing well in Queendom didn’t seem to bring any benefit to Irene - she still disappeared until the vlog, and giving that terrible company so much money for a product that you don’t seem particularly interested in doesn’t make that much sense.
Buying Irene merch makes more sense to me, it shows her appeal, is something that you’ll probably enjoy even if briefly, and contributes to overall group sales which makes the group look profitable. But it’s up to you, I personally will not buy it and will only get the Korean album of there’s an Irene version. If the concert and albums + shipping were cheaper, I might consider buying them, but I don’t see the point if it’s so expensive and I’m not particularly pumped about it.
But Irene still a part of Red Velvet and if SM see the rusults and not satisfied maybe that's the end of them as a group? Tbh we don't get any update straight from her so that's why I rather prefer a group activities for her in the mean time. I'm torn like choose which will result more silence in the future in re to Irene.
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