Mamamoo; korean girl group
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I hope ggbb will also be gay coded. Remember citt and what Byul made with that?
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I want it to be gay too but it’s possible they’ll try to appeal to gp with the title. So I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s het. Remember it’s the only song on the album Byul and Yong didn’t have much to do with. It could be why they went out of their way to make the b side gay where they did have more involvement
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The subs for the song are horrible. Usually they aren't this bad.
Some sentences make zero sense.
Some sentences make zero sense.
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They are okay.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 15:35The subs for the song are horrible. Usually they aren't this bad.
Some sentences make zero sense.
Really fun to see the struggle to find something to shit on this comeback

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I just want them to dance with each other.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 15:14I hope ggbb will also be gay coded. Remember citt and what Byul made with that?
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Stop with the defensiveness. The song and mv is incredible.
Whoever did the subs sucks.
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Moonbyul went to one football show and walked away with multiple moms.
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Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 15:56
Moonbyul went to one football show and walked away with multiple moms.

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Ngl I was confused af too. But because it is hard to translate literature and folk tale reference. I would definitely need to check the Chinese sub since they manage to capture the meaning better than engsub.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 15:35The subs for the song are horrible. Usually they aren't this bad.
Some sentences make zero sense.
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these made me laugh harder than they should have 

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I was so immersed in Chico malo I completely forgot we still had a title track to drop, I got so shocked when I saw this postGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 15:05

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I love the song, like all kpop songs these days theres sudden style and mood changes in the middle of the song but I actually really enjoyed it. Even tho the mv is lower budget I think they did really well with what they got, and it does come across as a couple who fought and each sees the other as in the wrong, the back and forth etc
The ONLY (only!) thing I wish was changed was just I dont like the random "chico malo" sprinkled in, its jarring
The ONLY (only!) thing I wish was changed was just I dont like the random "chico malo" sprinkled in, its jarring
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Has there been a full translation of the lyrics yet? Chosshi used to do those but she's inactive nowGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 15:35The subs for the song are horrible. Usually they aren't this bad.
Some sentences make zero sense.
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It makes me curious to see if GGBB will have more of a story or only them in different sets in different outfits.
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Good to know am not alone. Did not like the song, hoping for a better tt. But the mv is interesting, plus it's my fav ship so no complaints except maybe a bigger budgetGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 14:39The only way Imma stream this song is on mute, with a wide smile on my face because moonsun. This song isn't my cup of tea, its got weird transitions and the rap feels out of place
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This wouldn't surprise me. Also Byul and Yong seem so much more hyped about the pre-release than the title track.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 15:33I want it to be gay too but it’s possible they’ll try to appeal to gp with the title. So I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s het. Remember it’s the only song on the album Byul and Yong didn’t have much to do with. It could be why they went out of their way to make the b side gay where they did have more involvement
They're like "CHICO MALO!!!!! IT'S SO GOOD!!!... oh yeah, and there is GGBB too."
Although they might hype it more the closer we get to the release date.
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Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 17:21This wouldn't surprise me. Also Byul and Yong seem so much more hyped about the pre-release than the title track.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 15:33I want it to be gay too but it’s possible they’ll try to appeal to gp with the title. So I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s het. Remember it’s the only song on the album Byul and Yong didn’t have much to do with. It could be why they went out of their way to make the b side gay where they did have more involvement
They're like "CHICO MALO!!!!! IT'S SO GOOD!!!... oh yeah, and there is GGBB too."
Although they might hype it more the closer we get to the release date.
They did say in today’s live that ggbb is a better song and has different charms and to look forward to that
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They never said it was a better song, just that it has different charms. They both said their favorite song on this album was Chico Malo.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 17:29Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 17:21This wouldn't surprise me. Also Byul and Yong seem so much more hyped about the pre-release than the title track.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 15:33I want it to be gay too but it’s possible they’ll try to appeal to gp with the title. So I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s het. Remember it’s the only song on the album Byul and Yong didn’t have much to do with. It could be why they went out of their way to make the b side gay where they did have more involvement
They're like "CHICO MALO!!!!! IT'S SO GOOD!!!... oh yeah, and there is GGBB too."
Although they might hype it more the closer we get to the release date.
They did say in today’s live that ggbb is a better song and has different charms and to look forward to that
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DAGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 17:50They never said it was a better song, just that it has different charms. They both said their favorite song on this album was Chico Malo.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 17:29Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 17:21This wouldn't surprise me. Also Byul and Yong seem so much more hyped about the pre-release than the title track.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 15:33I want it to be gay too but it’s possible they’ll try to appeal to gp with the title. So I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s het. Remember it’s the only song on the album Byul and Yong didn’t have much to do with. It could be why they went out of their way to make the b side gay where they did have more involvement
They're like "CHICO MALO!!!!! IT'S SO GOOD!!!... oh yeah, and there is GGBB too."
Although they might hype it more the closer we get to the release date.
They did say in today’s live that ggbb is a better song and has different charms and to look forward to that
Byul mentioned today that GGBB is the better song. I literally just watched it.
But yeah, they both said before that CM is their favorite.
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The memes this cb have been top notch

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Is it me or did they delete the tweet with the solo pictures?
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the intern probably fucked up and released them too early
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Solar looking latina in those teaser images.
For some reason I get the feeling we’re getting a little couple dance break in the mv. I’m hoping for a little bit of salsa partner dance.

For some reason I get the feeling we’re getting a little couple dance break in the mv. I’m hoping for a little bit of salsa partner dance.
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Personally I'm not a big fan of this first set of outfits, I hope the ones to come are betterGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 17:08It makes me curious to see if GGBB will have more of a story or only them in different sets in different outfits.
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The concept exceeded my expectations, even the challenge is so fun and creative, they really worked hard preparing for those tiny details, and the mv serves it's purpose, it doesn't need to be glamorous as its supposed to be on theater.
But the song is another version of illella/aya, instead of being done by 4 it's now done by 2. (This is my personal opinion i really don't like the path KDH is taking), the song is more of okayish but was saved by the concept. Since it's prerelease I'm counting the days till the big release and hoping for moonsun sound.
But the song is another version of illella/aya, instead of being done by 4 it's now done by 2. (This is my personal opinion i really don't like the path KDH is taking), the song is more of okayish but was saved by the concept. Since it's prerelease I'm counting the days till the big release and hoping for moonsun sound.
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My favorite is still the person on Reddit who asked 'where's the budget?' because obviously quality is directly proportional to the amount of money spent

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If you go and take a listen there is actually a muffled spoiler at the outro of Chico malo mvSince it's prerelease I'm counting the days till the big release and hoping for moonsun sound
If any of you are heading to go listen please listen to the whole song to help with the views a bit
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Quality is visual and reflected in location, props and other gimmicks, where budgetary allocation is required. So where's the budget is a legit question because a big chunk of budgets is also involved in marketing.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:07My favorite is still the person on Reddit who asked 'where's the budget?' because obviously quality is directly proportional to the amount of money spentIf you don't break the records of 'most expensive MV ever!!!!' every time you release a new MV, it seems like you're not worth it. Kpop rots your brain to some things, I guess
We know they worked with mostly in-house producers and the mv was shot by zb who have a long standing association with rbw. We can appreciate the song, the mixing, the lyrics and Solar and moonbyuls artistry but we cannot in good conscience skirt the question of where is the budget.
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We have to consider it’s not the main single it’s a b side and they also have an mv for the other b side
So they split the extra budget between mvs for two bsides and we don’t know how much was spend on the lead mv
So they split the extra budget between mvs for two bsides and we don’t know how much was spend on the lead mv
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The views are fineGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:19If you go and take a listen there is actually a muffled spoiler at the outro of Chico malo mvSince it's prerelease I'm counting the days till the big release and hoping for moonsun sound
If any of you are heading to go listen please listen to the whole song to help with the views a bit
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Yes they’re fine and they could be better. What’s the problem with encouraging people to stream lmaoGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:37The views are fineGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:19If you go and take a listen there is actually a muffled spoiler at the outro of Chico malo mvSince it's prerelease I'm counting the days till the big release and hoping for moonsun sound
If any of you are heading to go listen please listen to the whole song to help with the views a bit
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This is the biggest copium ever.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:37The views are fineGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:19If you go and take a listen there is actually a muffled spoiler at the outro of Chico malo mvSince it's prerelease I'm counting the days till the big release and hoping for moonsun sound
If any of you are heading to go listen please listen to the whole song to help with the views a bit
Only a year ago Solar managed to hit 3 million views in the first 24 hours with Honey. And Byul like 1.5m with Lunatic. People lost interest in the whole group during the past year and it shows in views.
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Da. My guess is that since Byul spoiled that all songs are getting a music vid, majority of the MV budget for this cb went to GGBB and whatever was left was split between the Chico Malo and LLL MV’s (with CM having a slightly bigger budget compared to the latter because I don’t really see that much need for higher production values for a slower b-side).Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:19Quality is visual and reflected in location, props and other gimmicks, where budgetary allocation is required. So where's the budget is a legit question because a big chunk of budgets is also involved in marketing.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:07My favorite is still the person on Reddit who asked 'where's the budget?' because obviously quality is directly proportional to the amount of money spentIf you don't break the records of 'most expensive MV ever!!!!' every time you release a new MV, it seems like you're not worth it. Kpop rots your brain to some things, I guess
We know they worked with mostly in-house producers and the mv was shot by zb who have a long standing association with rbw. We can appreciate the song, the mixing, the lyrics and Solar and moonbyuls artistry but we cannot in good conscience skirt the question of where is the budget.
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The fact that parts of both of their solo fandoms are also boycotting cause they are so threatened by Moonsun doesn't help either.
Solar and Moonbyul are rich and are certainly not doing this for the money anymore. But it would be nice for them to get somewhat okayish views and sales.
Solar and Moonbyul are rich and are certainly not doing this for the money anymore. But it would be nice for them to get somewhat okayish views and sales.
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DaGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:19If you go and take a listen there is actually a muffled spoiler at the outro of Chico malo mvSince it's prerelease I'm counting the days till the big release and hoping for moonsun sound
If any of you are heading to go listen please listen to the whole song to help with the views a bit
I thought that was just "Stand by me" unless they actually sampled that song for the title track.
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Da. I also figured out the sound from the post credit is not from.ggbb itself. Cannot wait to hear snippet of the song!Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:56DaGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:19If you go and take a listen there is actually a muffled spoiler at the outro of Chico malo mvSince it's prerelease I'm counting the days till the big release and hoping for moonsun sound
If any of you are heading to go listen please listen to the whole song to help with the views a bit
I thought that was just "Stand by me" unless they actually sampled that song for the title track.
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Wow, I'm an idiot. I was thinking how that GGBB snippet sounds very 60s like. I did not realize it's from Stand by me.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:56DaGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:19If you go and take a listen there is actually a muffled spoiler at the outro of Chico malo mvSince it's prerelease I'm counting the days till the big release and hoping for moonsun sound
If any of you are heading to go listen please listen to the whole song to help with the views a bit
I thought that was just "Stand by me" unless they actually sampled that song for the title track.
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I checked and the pictures are still there on YouTube and Insta, only the post on twitter got deleted, weird...Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 18:47the intern probably fucked up and released them too early
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boycotting? Moonsun is, sadly, only supported by MS shippers and some of ot4, solo fans support them but they don't go extra miles compare to their solo cb.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:50The fact that parts of both of their solo fandoms are also boycotting cause they are so threatened by Moonsun doesn't help either.
Solar and Moonbyul are rich and are certainly not doing this for the money anymore. But it would be nice for them to get somewhat okayish views and sales.
sales: too early to judge,
views: if they want to keep up with other groups, rbw needs to do something about it, otherwise, moos aren't into streaming
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DA. I mean it’s a pre-release so like I don’t know what people were expecting views-wise, if they get 400-500k by day one that’s pretty good. There will probably be ads and such for the actual release. If anything I think the people who aren’t really pulling through are casuals, because their solo fan bases really aren’t big at all.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 21:41boycotting? Moonsun is, sadly, only supported by MS shippers and some of ot4, solo fans support them but they don't go extra miles compare to their solo cb.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:50The fact that parts of both of their solo fandoms are also boycotting cause they are so threatened by Moonsun doesn't help either.
Solar and Moonbyul are rich and are certainly not doing this for the money anymore. But it would be nice for them to get somewhat okayish views and sales.
sales: too early to judge,
views: if they want to keep up with other groups, rbw needs to do something about it, otherwise, moos aren't into streaming
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People asking for the budget don't realize the outfits, the props and lighting costs money. This is way more pretty that some of the most expensive mvs that you can think of.
The song that you can hear at the end of the mv isn't exactly like "Stand By me", so I think ggbb actually sounds like a retro 50's song.
The song that you can hear at the end of the mv isn't exactly like "Stand By me", so I think ggbb actually sounds like a retro 50's song.
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If it isn't Stand By Me then GGBB for sure was sampled from it cause it sounds way too similarGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 22:07People asking for the budget don't realize the outfits, the props and lighting costs money. This is way more pretty that some of the most expensive mvs that you can think of.
The song that you can hear at the end of the mv isn't exactly like "Stand By me", so I think ggbb actually sounds like a retro 50's song.
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Apart from the clothes costing a bomb which i didn't think they did. The lighting was pretty standard ( I work as a assistant to dp - so I know a thing or two ) the props ? Surely you got to be joking.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 22:07People asking for the budget don't realize the outfits, the props and lighting costs money. This is way more pretty that some of the most expensive mvs that you can think of.
The song that you can hear at the end of the mv isn't exactly like "Stand By me", so I think ggbb actually sounds like a retro 50's song.
I am pinning my hopes of getting a more budget allocation from rbw for the tt because chico malo was severely under budget (even for a bside) the girls pulled it off through and through
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DAGuest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 23:13Apart from the clothes costing a bomb which i didn't think they did. The lighting was pretty standard ( I work as a assistant to dp - so I know a thing or two ) the props ? Surely you got to be joking.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 22:07People asking for the budget don't realize the outfits, the props and lighting costs money. This is way more pretty that some of the most expensive mvs that you can think of.
The song that you can hear at the end of the mv isn't exactly like "Stand By me", so I think ggbb actually sounds like a retro 50's song.
I am pinning my hopes of getting a more budget allocation from rbw for the tt because chico malo was severely under budget (even for a bside) the girls pulled it off through and through
The Mv was simple and minimalistic enough that I'm sure they didn't spend that much money on, BUT despite being minimalistic it still doesn't give off cheap vibes at all and actually looks gorgeous Imo, so I don't get where the issue is.
PS: they never do anything too big for the b-sides just look at 1,2,3 Eoi VS Illella or Aze gag VS Yes I am or Taller than you VS You're the best...so this isn't something out of the ordinary.
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I sincerely do not understand what a bigger budget would accomplish for this MV concept and storyline. To me, the MV is pretty as well as effective in telling the story they wanted to tell. I like that it's different from the normal TT MVs of MMM where it's mostly just shots of them in different outfits and background. I dunno, more expensive doesn't always mean better.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 23:13Apart from the clothes costing a bomb which i didn't think they did. The lighting was pretty standard ( I work as a assistant to dp - so I know a thing or two ) the props ? Surely you got to be joking.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 22:07People asking for the budget don't realize the outfits, the props and lighting costs money. This is way more pretty that some of the most expensive mvs that you can think of.
The song that you can hear at the end of the mv isn't exactly like "Stand By me", so I think ggbb actually sounds like a retro 50's song.
I am pinning my hopes of getting a more budget allocation from rbw for the tt because chico malo was severely under budget (even for a bside) the girls pulled it off through and through
And, I also echo the points of others that MS already said they prepared MVs for all 3 songs. They don't have an infinite budget to go around.
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One of the designers for Byul’s hanbok posted something and then took it down because it was a spoiler presumably but anyway from that persons page it’s apparently a hand crafted one. And honestly does look it it oooks stunning. So I can see some decent money going into the costuming
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x2 for the bolded part. There's this one group out there whose name I don't need to say that always claims each new MV of theirs is the most expensive one ever and half of them turn out to be below average and meaningless. Having a bigger budget here sounds like your typical kpop stan need for comparative gloating instead of an objective improvement to the product.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 23:38I sincerely do not understand what a bigger budget would accomplish for this MV concept and storyline. To me, the MV is pretty as well as effective in telling the story they wanted to tell. I like that it's different from the normal TT MVs of MMM where it's mostly just shots of them in different outfits and background. I dunno, more expensive doesn't always mean better.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 23:13Apart from the clothes costing a bomb which i didn't think they did. The lighting was pretty standard ( I work as a assistant to dp - so I know a thing or two ) the props ? Surely you got to be joking.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 22:07People asking for the budget don't realize the outfits, the props and lighting costs money. This is way more pretty that some of the most expensive mvs that you can think of.
The song that you can hear at the end of the mv isn't exactly like "Stand By me", so I think ggbb actually sounds like a retro 50's song.
I am pinning my hopes of getting a more budget allocation from rbw for the tt because chico malo was severely under budget (even for a bside) the girls pulled it off through and through
And, I also echo the points of others that MS already said they prepared MVs for all 3 songs. They don't have an infinite budget to go around.
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This is totally random but the two women playing instruments in the mv were so regal and beautiful, I loved the addition
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I agree. (I thought i was being biased bc I'm not a KDH fan. lol) For the TT, music wise my expectations are on the ground, while concept wise i have no worries.Guest wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 20:06The concept exceeded my expectations, even the challenge is so fun and creative, they really worked hard preparing for those tiny details, and the mv serves it's purpose, it doesn't need to be glamorous as its supposed to be on theater.
But the song is another version of illella/aya, instead of being done by 4 it's now done by 2. (This is my personal opinion i really don't like the path KDH is taking), the song is more of okayish but was saved by the concept. Since it's prerelease I'm counting the days till the big release and hoping for moonsun sound.
I loved the MV and the concept. The outfits are gorgeous, and I loved the choreo. To those bitching about the budget, hit them with the iconic "sometimes things that are expensive are worse."
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