Korean Entertainment - Part II

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And when I say that woman had a weird fixation with Minji stealing her from Somu, making her muse, the face of the audition, posting her on her instagram, taking her on dates etc. And now this comment… Think it’s pretty obvious

She has a type. I was thinking Minji does resemble Krystal, and looking it up a lot of fans think the same. Even in terms of personality too where Krystal is more cold and has a handsome-pretty vibe she gave.

[Guest]

And when I say that woman had a weird fixation with Minji stealing her from Somu, making her muse, the face of the audition, posting her on her instagram, taking her on dates etc. And now this comment… Think it’s pretty obvious

The projection in your post is really out of hand. Stealing a trainee that went on to become the face of 5th gen and basing a group around them is normal for anyone in business, she's reminscent of Krystal who was also the face of her generation and still the idol of many new idols. The only basis you have for thinking it isn't normal is assuming she's sapphic for watching straight porn.

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하고 이 제 봤는데 이제 미안하게 도 소스에 있었던 여자 연습생 중에는 이제 제가 선발할 수 있는 친구가 민지 밖에 없었던 거예요. 이제 나머지 친구들은 연습이 더 필요하거나 나이가 너무 많거나 이제 저랑 결이 조금 안 맞거나 이제 이런 친구들이 어 가지고 제가 선발을 할 수가 없었고 든든 요. 그래서 이제 민지 만 아 우리가 이제 합작 프로젝트 할 때 이제 이 친구는 그때 되게 어렵고 연습을 더 많이 하면 훨씬 좋아질 수 있겠다. 그리고 민지가 어렸을 때 엄청 예뻤어요. 이거 지금보다 훨씬 더 더 더 예뻤고. 그랬기 때문에 그냥 아 이 친구로는 이제 뭔가 좀 해볼 수 있겠다라는 그런 생각이 있었었고.

And now I've seen it, and I'm sorry to say that among the female trainees who were on Source, the only one I could choose was Minji. Now, the rest of my friends need more practice, are too old, or just don't get along with me, so I couldn't be selected because of these friends. So now Minji, when we do a joint project, it's really difficult for this guy and he can get much better if he practices more. And Minji was very pretty when she was young. This was much prettier than now. Because of that, I just had the thought that I could now try something with this friend.

How do you say this on a press conference… Not only does this come off ped0philic (cause that’s not your kid for you to be saying “she was even prettier as a child”), but it’s also so rude to Minji herself? Imagine hearing someone saying that about you publicly Nkt to mention the girl is only 19 and getting prettier everyday

I don't think it comes off as pedophilic, simply because pedophilia means attraction to children under 12. MHJ (allegedly) must be an ephebophile, aka attraction to adolescents between 12 and 19. To be honest, I wouldn't say she is. We have never heard of her assaulting a teenager... she just artistically exploits them. She must have an aesthetic preference for youthfulness and likes to glorify it her art. Perhaps she misses her own youth, or perhaps she is cynical enough to know the GP loves the young. She used to be a very powerful producer in the Kpop industry, this alone proves that she is no saint. I agree on what she said about Minji is deranged, though. It makes me want to believe she is a dangerous maniac and she's only moderately good at hiding it.
However, let's not act as though Kpop as an industry is not obsessed with youth and that some girls discussed here aren't barely legal.
... MHJ's case conflicts me. The only reason I wouldn't call her a predator is because one should never confuse the art someone creates/consumes with one's own real life actions. Stephen King writes about gore and murder all the time, yet he has never murdered anyone. Roman Polansky made unambiguous, very artsy films yet assaulted a 13 yo... However, it wouldn't surprise me if MHJ turned out to be a predator.

"she's not really a pedo, just an artist"
Stfu + she likes 12yo sex workers so much she displays them on her living room's wall and Instagram. She promotes pedophilia, she likes it, makes it possible for pedophiles to become kpop fans for their degenerate fetish

[Guest]

하고 이 제 봤는데 이제 미안하게 도 소스에 있었던 여자 연습생 중에는 이제 제가 선발할 수 있는 친구가 민지 밖에 없었던 거예요. 이제 나머지 친구들은 연습이 더 필요하거나 나이가 너무 많거나 이제 저랑 결이 조금 안 맞거나 이제 이런 친구들이 어 가지고 제가 선발을 할 수가 없었고 든든 요. 그래서 이제 민지 만 아 우리가 이제 합작 프로젝트 할 때 이제 이 친구는 그때 되게 어렵고 연습을 더 많이 하면 훨씬 좋아질 수 있겠다. 그리고 민지가 어렸을 때 엄청 예뻤어요. 이거 지금보다 훨씬 더 더 더 예뻤고. 그랬기 때문에 그냥 아 이 친구로는 이제 뭔가 좀 해볼 수 있겠다라는 그런 생각이 있었었고.

And now I've seen it, and I'm sorry to say that among the female trainees who were on Source, the only one I could choose was Minji. Now, the rest of my friends need more practice, are too old, or just don't get along with me, so I couldn't be selected because of these friends. So now Minji, when we do a joint project, it's really difficult for this guy and he can get much better if he practices more. And Minji was very pretty when she was young. This was much prettier than now. Because of that, I just had the thought that I could now try something with this friend.

How do you say this on a press conference… Not only does this come off ped0philic (cause that’s not your kid for you to be saying “she was even prettier as a child”), but it’s also so rude to Minji herself? Imagine hearing someone saying that about you publicly Nkt to mention the girl is only 19 and getting prettier everyday

I don't think it comes off as pedophilic, simply because pedophilia means attraction to children under 12. MHJ (allegedly) must be an ephebophile, aka attraction to adolescents between 12 and 19. To be honest, I wouldn't say she is. We have never heard of her assaulting a teenager... she just artistically exploits them. She must have an aesthetic preference for youthfulness and likes to glorify it her art. Perhaps she misses her own youth, or perhaps she is cynical enough to know the GP loves the young. She used to be a very powerful producer in the Kpop industry, this alone proves that she is no saint. I agree on what she said about Minji is deranged, though. It makes me want to believe she is a dangerous maniac and she's only moderately good at hiding it.
However, let's not act as though Kpop as an industry is not obsessed with youth and that some girls discussed here aren't barely legal.
... MHJ's case conflicts me. The only reason I wouldn't call her a predator is because one should never confuse the art someone creates/consumes with one's own real life actions. Stephen King writes about gore and murder all the time, yet he has never murdered anyone. Roman Polansky made unambiguous, very artsy films yet assaulted a 13 yo... However, it wouldn't surprise me if MHJ turned out to be a predator.

"she's not really a pedo, just an artist"
Stfu + she likes 12yo sex workers so much she displays them on her living room's wall and Instagram. She promotes pedophilia, she likes it, makes it possible for pedophiles to become kpop fans for their degenerate fetish

You've called a child a sex worker 2x now holy shit

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12 year olds can't be sex workers and child porn is illegal to post. Someone dm the fucking mods this could really close down the forum

[Guest]

And when I say that woman had a weird fixation with Minji stealing her from Somu, making her muse, the face of the audition, posting her on her instagram, taking her on dates etc. And now this comment… Think it’s pretty obvious

The projection in your post is really out of hand. Stealing a trainee that went on to become the face of 5th gen and basing a group around them is normal for anyone in business, she's reminscent of Krystal who was also the face of her generation and still the idol of many new idols. The only basis you have for thinking it isn't normal is assuming she's sapphic for watching straight porn.

Idk girl this comment and the way she was like “she was SO pretty” (she used a korean word that means like VERY in an absurd way) just kinda solidified it to me. Weird vibe all around.

Plus she has a history let’s not pretend she doesn’t

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Mhj deleted that's probably why she still has defenders.
https://www.instagram.com/min.hee.jin/

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She’s such a creep fr

x2 they're from het/age gap French movies and concept shoots though, she thinks they're art, it's fucked up but it isn't a wlw with random girls on her wall.

x3 I suspect they're lesbophobic straight women saying that that's why they're getting so defensive when somebody said it's common for straight women to romanticise pedophilia and lolita, often to self-insert as the victim, and that's why it's beneficial to them to portray her as a pedo lesbian preying on her teen idols

They're piling on to say they've never known straight women to act like that and are so focused on proving she's attracted to girls, it's obvious why.

x4 or x5 idk

[Guest]

And when I say that woman had a weird fixation with Minji stealing her from Somu, making her muse, the face of the audition, posting her on her instagram, taking her on dates etc. And now this comment… Think it’s pretty obvious

The projection in your post is really out of hand. Stealing a trainee that went on to become the face of 5th gen and basing a group around them is normal for anyone in business, she's reminscent of Krystal who was also the face of her generation and still the idol of many new idols. The only basis you have for thinking it isn't normal is assuming she's sapphic for watching straight porn.

Idk girl this comment and the way she was like “she was SO pretty” (she used a korean word that means like VERY in an absurd way) just kinda solidified it to me. Weird vibe all around.

Plus she has a history let’s not pretend she doesn’t

Because she's desperately trying to gain sympathy and understanding for why she stole Minji from a company she just got exposed for destroying. She is weirdly fixated on youth and looks, the industry is, so are the stans. History of anything sapphic?

[Guest]

If this is child porn why did you post it

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As someone who's not Korean but understands Korean, wow MHJ really outed herself as someone obsessed with a girl's teenage youth and whatsoever freshness that comes along with it. The translations aren't distorted to side HYBE. She ruined it with her mouth herself. She's a certified creep who has a Peter pan syndrome and mental health issues and definitely someone who is of very low EQ, which is also definitely why HYBE decided to let her run her mouth since I'm sure over the past years working with her made them know she'll self destruct with that press conference.

Imo HYBE brought her in her for talent and also because they wanted to use her to create HYPE. I'm sure after working with her they couldn't bear to fire her even with her damned mouth and blunt personality because she does have creative talent. Once they were done using her to make a name, I'm certain they went on to find people who could replace her in terms of her artistic foresight and duties. Then, they decided to dump her away and planned a series of actions to ruin her so that they can take over and gain full control of ador again. In a way she's not someone easy or pleasant to work with. You can tell from the way she talks and speaks without tact. I wonder if those girls genuinely liked her or were desperate for the job and pretended to like her. Or maybe they were prepared for this situation too because they secretly wanted to get rid of her asap since we don't know how much of a creep to them she possibly has been since their trainee days.

It's awful, both bsh and her aren't innocent in this. The reason why I say bsh isn't innocent is because they stated that they disagreed on nj's direction. I mean, as the founder, if you disagreed with her so much and more why would you even allow her to create her own subsidiary in the first place? It's definitely for your own gains that you wanted to use her for the hype for a new gg. He could've fired her back then and got rid of her. But he didn't, and right now he made sure she has become replaceable he's dumping her. Letting this woman who goes on and on about young girls yapping about older girls not fitting her principles stay in a company for years... It's sick in the head. If I were those parents I'll be checking with my girls if she ever said something worse to them in private when she could yap like that happily in public.

[Guest]

The press conference is for plagiarism and New Jeans potentially disbanding, y'all aren't bored of your irrelevant old debate giving thesis back and forth yet?

[Guest]

Stantwt pretending to be shocked when youth and prettiness are basic criteria from Kpop CEOs of every group they stan. Alright then.

How surprising from an industry where you expire the moment you turn 22. At 25, you're a senior if you're still working, and when you turn 30, you already have a foot in the grave. The only group I know with members over 30 is Mamamoo, and they're not even that popular to begin with. It's very different from the West where artists in their thirties (Adele, Ariana Grande, Lana Del Rey, TAYLOR SWIFT...) are still dominating the industry in their thirties.

x2 It's embedded into the culture but a woman is the fall guy for political reasons inside of the company and Kpoppies eat it up.

[Guest]

I knew she couldn't win this war, but now I seriously wonder if she won't be blacklisted completely.
After this press con every company will think twice if they want to work with person as wild as her (tho it's understandable why her emotions run high).

It's fascinating, coz many things here can be true at once. I find her problematic (to say the least), but at the same she is becoming a poster child of "let's make her look crazy". No doubt she is helping with that, but it's such a common tactic when TPTB want to put down woman in her place. "She sounds cray!".
It's not even about lying, it's a about framing certain half-truths in a very specific way. Even the way Hy&e, through media, brought up BT$ - it was done to make stans go fully against her, and we know how arm!es are...Hy&e cornered her so well...yikes.

[Guest]

kpop companies: it's like chosing between plague and cholera.

The truth is Kpop stans are the problem and that fan account has an idol as a child in its pfp.

The child's a Hybe bg member btw

[Guest]

I just feel extremely sorry for the newjeans girls. I don’t see a good resolution to this mess no matter what

[Guest]

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I have eyes and the more I look at her the gayer she seems. You're a het troll yes. Doyeon seems very gay and now I'm realizing you're the only one to call her straight to avoid admitting yena surrounds herself with LGB people or very sus people. But somehow she also treats this people like subhumans because she once cringed when two cringe het American women kissed. If she gets exposed fine i guess, until then I'll think with good reasons that she's probably wlw.

Damn I wish I was a het troll. Then I wouldn't give a shit about how she treats her lesbian fans. Also how does me thinking Doyeon is likely straight mean I'm doing it to make everyone around yena seem straight. I didn't even talk about her being straight in absolutes because she is quite the fan of Moonlit Winter (which I have posted when people have asked about her before) but she does seem to be into men and I don't know of any moments that could mean she's into women (I don't follow her so I don't know everything) so I assume she's likely straight and an ally, with possibility she could be bisexual. If I was trolling, I'd call Jaejae and Bibi het. It's not just about how she cringed at the kiss(a bit hypocritical of you to assume they're both het) but the general way she reacts to any sign of lesbianism. She's completely untrustworthy.

Anyways

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Our culture is not your costume

**Before you start, for all intents and purposes this is a joke**

She really doesn't, she gives huge lesbian vibes practically everytime. The only reason i thought she was straight after some anons asked here was because you decided to say that she was like it's facts when you actually don't even know her. Jaejae literally showed her gf why would you troll with her, you would though if she wasn't basically out because "she seems into men", both ping dykedars so fucking much except for yours, and my theory is literally because they're yena's friends, that's how much of hettroll you are even yena's friendq must be het.

I don't understand your joke maybe cause i'm esl but...... Why did you post this it doesn't help her straight case, girly seems so freaking gay lmao. Nice rainbow music notes tat on her arms

I really don't care to argue about Doyeon's sexuality. I was being transparent about my knowledge unlike you who pretends to know better. Again, I wasn't speaking factually and it wasn't based on vibes but on her talking about being into men based on what I've seen from the variety shows she's been on with yena. Unlike delusional people who come up with the most ridiculous cope, I take people at their word. Jaejae hasn't done that so the only reason you'd think they're on the same level is if you think all women with short hair have to be lesbians. If you actually watched ghsmc you'd know this. I've never implied Jaejae is straight so I have no idea why you're acting like I think she has a secret boyfriend at home. After all our arguments why now have you latched onto me being a het troll? Are we back to calling me a man or do I happen to be a straight woman?

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It's a meme, you either get it or you can just search it up. What you're saying is kind of the point of the joke. The tattoos are fake but the Keith Haring one really tops it off. I just wanted to shitpost because I thought it was funny (and honestly also because it's hot) and decided to add it to the post, it wasn't meant to be related to the argument.

I wasn't clear, i meant that if Jaejae wasn't basically out (since iirc she showed her gf which makes her undoubtedly gay), you would argue she's straight because idk she likes X male artist, the same way you do with Doyeon. It has nothing to do with short hair, well it does contribute ig, but they just ping to oblivion, both of them. Doyeon pings and all my senses agree to think she's gay. Of course there's a chance she's straight but i'm just saying there's nothing about her that seems het and the most you can come up with to be convinced she's het is her liking "moonlit winter" lol.

That yena pic looks gay af, yet one of the main reasons you think she's het is because "she posts cute pics for men" implying girls (especially asian) don't like those. Well no she has a bunch of selcas who scream dyke.

You've completely misunderstood what I've said. Moonlit Winter is a lesbian film. I was giving it as a reason why I think she could be bisexual. The reason I gave that I think she isn't a lesbian and likely straight is because of the things she's said that show attraction to men like gushing over ugly timothy whatever the fuck his french last name is. You're just making up things to get mad at with whatever you're going on about with Jaejae.

Please source where I've said one of the main reasons I think she's het is because she posts cute pics for men. I myself like cute pics but I don't like the tryhard baby cute stuff which is clearly meant to appeal to men (if you can't tell the difference then I can't help you) at the neglect of everything else. I am very much aware of those "selcas" which she rarely even posts pics like that anymore anyway and in any case they wouldn't scream dyke because yena is obviously attracted to men. All your arguments boil down to ping ping ping screams dyke dyke dyke vibes stereotype stereotype stereotype and never on their actual words and actions.

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I just feel extremely sorry for the newjeans girls. I don’t see a good resolution to this mess no matter what

She said the maknae was crying for 20 minutes, Hani asked to come over and Haerin video called her in the middle of the night. Yikes

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so basically she's fighting with hybe/bsh. She is not going to win. Its korea. M3n win all the time. I never believe m3n in korea, they have no brain. They gonna squeeze the idea from women and get the credit and dump women whenever they want. All m3n in korea hate brave women or crazy enough to fight m3n. She is not saint but m3n in korea will get escapes from their sins or wrongdoing. That how sexist korea is. Nothing will change but become harder for women to live there. I have no idea what's gonna happened to nj. I hate hybe for payola and many more. I just hate ceo men who is stupid and cruel.

[Guest]

I knew she couldn't win this war, but now I seriously wonder if she won't be blacklisted completely.
After this press con every company will think twice if they want to work with person as wild as her (tho it's understandable why her emotions run high).

It's fascinating, coz many things here can be true at once. I find her problematic (to say the least), but at the same she is becoming a poster child of "let's make her look crazy". No doubt she is helping with that, but it's such a common tactic when TPTB want to put down woman in her place. "She sounds cray!".
It's not even about lying, it's a about framing certain half-truths in a very specific way. Even the way Hy&e, through media, brought up BT$ - it was done to make stans go fully against her, and we know how arm!es are...Hy&e cornered her so well...yikes.

Hon, she tried to initiate a hostile takeover, took a swing at insider trading and was leaking classified financial documents.... I know all the extra weirdness is a major distraction and a lot more eye catching but what she is accused of is a lot more damning (insider trading is a felony crime) and the allegations are enough to get her blacklisted.

Also, HYBE doesn't have to make MHJ look crazy. They've given her rope and she hung herself. Leaking your own private chats with executives? Name dropping every competing group/label in the industry? That shaman business? Being so mentally deranged you unconsciously expose your pedo tendencies by randomly mentioning how a pubescent Minji was even prettier than she is as a barely legal teenager? Because that had fuck all to do with anything. No. Who would hire her?

Min Hee Jin sympathizers are clueless, must find her relatable which means they possess all her red flags... or both. HYBE's history as a soulless monopoly that bullies everyone does not apply to this conversation.

[Guest]

Idc im siding with her. This gonna be a amber heard v Jhonny depp case

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so basically she's fighting with hybe/bsh. She is not going to win. Its korea. M3n win all the time. I never believe m3n in korea, they have no brain. They gonna squeeze the idea from women and get the credit and dump women whenever they want. All m3n in korea hate brave women or crazy enough to fight m3n. She is not saint but m3n in korea will get escapes from their sins or wrongdoing. That how sexist korea is. Nothing will change but become harder for women to live there. I have no idea what's gonna happened to nj. I hate hybe for payola and many more. I just hate ceo men who is stupid and cruel.

X2 People believe what hybe said is so funny.

[Guest]

Can anyone summarize the MHJ - H*be drama please? Or link me to a post that explains everything going on.

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I knew she couldn't win this war, but now I seriously wonder if she won't be blacklisted completely.
After this press con every company will think twice if they want to work with person as wild as her (tho it's understandable why her emotions run high).

It's fascinating, coz many things here can be true at once. I find her problematic (to say the least), but at the same she is becoming a poster child of "let's make her look crazy". No doubt she is helping with that, but it's such a common tactic when TPTB want to put down woman in her place. "She sounds cray!".
It's not even about lying, it's a about framing certain half-truths in a very specific way. Even the way Hy&e, through media, brought up BT$ - it was done to make stans go fully against her, and we know how arm!es are...Hy&e cornered her so well...yikes.

Hon, she tried to initiate a hostile takeover, took a swing at insider trading and was leaking classified financial documents.... I know all the extra weirdness is a major distraction and a lot more eye catching but what she is accused of is a lot more damning (insider trading is a felony crime) and the allegations are enough to get her blacklisted.

Also, HYBE doesn't have to make MHJ look crazy. They've given her rope and she hung herself. Leaking your own private chats with executives? Name dropping every competing group/label in the industry? That shaman business? Being so mentally deranged you unconsciously expose your pedo tendencies by randomly mentioning how a pubescent Minji was even prettier than she is as a barely legal teenager? Because that had fuck all to do with anything. No. Who would hire her?

Min Hee Jin sympathizers are clueless, must find her relatable which means they possess all her red flags... or both. HYBE's history as a soulless monopoly that bullies everyone does not apply to this conversation.

Oh, but it does. Your post is pointless to anyone with a brain reading about the situation from both sides for themselves, without the fan translations and out of context interpretations by the Army and LSF company stan tweets that are twisting everything to confirm their mob mentality biases. Speaking of soulless monopolies, you really sound like an AI summary of the situation according to Twitter. Your us vs. them accusing anybody of defending MHJ or of being a pedophile for disagreeing with your takes is typical. DA.

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so basically she's fighting with hybe/bsh. She is not going to win. Its korea. M3n win all the time. I never believe m3n in korea, they have no brain. They gonna squeeze the idea from women and get the credit and dump women whenever they want. All m3n in korea hate brave women or crazy enough to fight m3n. She is not saint but m3n in korea will get escapes from their sins or wrongdoing. That how sexist korea is. Nothing will change but become harder for women to live there. I have no idea what's gonna happened to nj. I hate hybe for payola and many more. I just hate ceo men who is stupid and cruel.

X2 People believe what hybe said is so funny.

3:37 p.m. “I'm the kind of person who has to start everything from scratch, but I thought that I would bend to his will,” Min says. “I know that it would have been best for me to spend my own money and make a label. The reason I joined the company was that it had a set system. The family, the employees, it was easier for me to pay them. But if you make a new company, you inevitably become poor. But I wanted to fulfill my potential. It wasn't about making money. Getting investors involved would've been so difficult for me as a woman. I've seen so many dirty things. So I thought, 'Let's just join a company and get paid.' I had always felt alone. We didn't see eye to eye.”

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"Getting investors involved would've been so difficult for me as a woman.I've seen so many dirty things."

WELP.

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Bruh am telling ya'll these moonsun shippers are next level delusional.

they're the most delusional shippers atleast other shippers are crazy but ship for fun, MS shippers genuinely think their biases are gay and dating

watch them get a straight dating scandal this year. i'd enjoy their tears

x2 wouldn't enjoy anyone's turmoil over their ship tanking but damn! these shippers are so annoying that I would want it to tank so we can move on from their essays to defend their delusional asses

[Guest]

That fatty clearly hates women. He's obsessed with aespa and blackpink and even treats newjeans like shit

This is who they want NewJeans to stay with and they can't understand why she tried to leave the way she did? She implied the only reason she joined is because women can't get investment for themselves or their groups without dirty men exploiting.

The best case scenario is disbandment.

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I've such a bad feeling about this as I don't think the girls have any income capacity to exit this with her and that she'll take her own life after this... It's obvious she has npd and no therapy has cured her and so she sought a sh9man to help her... In a way she can't get rid of the thoughts that she's special and how the world must revolve around her as the one and only. That man is the same. Both are control freaks but he's the smart one to pretend he isn't, whereas she's the dumb one to speak from her heart...but not in a good way. Like everyone can empathize with her points about how she worked hard for this and how the industry is shit to women but she's also not helping herself with her rambling stuff randomly. It's sad. To me she's someone who has issues in her youth and she can't move past that and uses art in every way to express her decades of misery to the whole wide world. Or maybe she's truly sick in the mind since I can't get over how one thinks it's ok to paste nude teen girls on their walls even those young p0rn infested brain b0ys don't do that. Yet it's also hard to take pity on her when she stupidly drags everyone else with her

I'm one of those people who hates nj producers for the lyrics and concept they put out because they are bringing back that dumb submissive notion of girls doing whatever it takes to get their men... I really hate this. I pity those nj girls though because often it's not their choice. Please put the end on this type of era though. No more young girls simping hard for older boys or men concept. Gross.

[Guest]

I knew she couldn't win this war, but now I seriously wonder if she won't be blacklisted completely.
After this press con every company will think twice if they want to work with person as wild as her (tho it's understandable why her emotions run high).

It's fascinating, coz many things here can be true at once. I find her problematic (to say the least), but at the same she is becoming a poster child of "let's make her look crazy". No doubt she is helping with that, but it's such a common tactic when TPTB want to put down woman in her place. "She sounds cray!".
It's not even about lying, it's a about framing certain half-truths in a very specific way. Even the way Hy&e, through media, brought up BT$ - it was done to make stans go fully against her, and we know how arm!es are...Hy&e cornered her so well...yikes.

Hon, she tried to initiate a hostile takeover, took a swing at insider trading and was leaking classified financial documents.... I know all the extra weirdness is a major distraction and a lot more eye catching but what she is accused of is a lot more damning (insider trading is a felony crime) and the allegations are enough to get her blacklisted.

Also, HYBE doesn't have to make MHJ look crazy. They've given her rope and she hung herself. Leaking your own private chats with executives? Name dropping every competing group/label in the industry? That shaman business? Being so mentally deranged you unconsciously expose your pedo tendencies by randomly mentioning how a pubescent Minji was even prettier than she is as a barely legal teenager? Because that had fuck all to do with anything. No. Who would hire her?

Min Hee Jin sympathizers are clueless, must find her relatable which means they possess all her red flags... or both. HYBE's history as a soulless monopoly that bullies everyone does not apply to this conversation.

Oh, but it does. Your post is pointless to anyone with a brain reading about the situation from both sides for themselves, without the fan translations and out of context interpretations by the Army and LSF company stan tweets that are twisting everything to confirm their mob mentality biases. Speaking of soulless monopolies, you really sound like an AI summary of the situation according to Twitter. Your us vs. them accusing anybody of defending MHJ or of being a pedophile for disagreeing with your takes is typical. DA.

So instead of saying anything in refute, you’re just going to errantly reference BTS and LSF company stans (why? what is the relevance?), call me AI, and make another irrelevant reference to a feud (us vs them?) What parties are being represented, btw? Am I us or them? I objectively highlighted an attempted crime which ultimately caused MHJ to be in her position now. Her plight is distinctly of her own making. What about that take warrants your hostility and dissent? Cuz you didn’t explain; you just started attacking like a lunatic which again if you’re so angry on that woman’s behalf when what she did was try to out corrupt a corrupt company… yeah, your character is questionable.

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Did she mean BSH tried to get rid of her so he could take over NJ? They practiced Attention for 2 years.

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Bruh am telling ya'll these moonsun shippers are next level delusional.

they're the most delusional shippers atleast other shippers are crazy but ship for fun, MS shippers genuinely think their biases are gay and dating

watch them get a straight dating scandal this year. i'd enjoy their tears

x2 wouldn't enjoy anyone's turmoil over their ship tanking but damn! these shippers are so annoying that I would want it to tank so we can move on from their essays to defend their delusional asses

Stop quoting yourself, weirdo.

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I've such a bad feeling about this as I don't think the girls have any income capacity to exit this with her and that she'll take her own life after this... It's obvious she has npd and no therapy has cured her and so she sought a sh9man to help her... In a way she can't get rid of the thoughts that she's special and how the world must revolve around her as the one and only. That man is the same. Both are control freaks but he's the smart one to pretend he isn't, whereas she's the dumb one to speak from her heart...but not in a good way. Like everyone can empathize with her points about how she worked hard for this and how the industry is shit to women but she's also not helping herself with her rambling stuff randomly. It's sad. To me she's someone who has issues in her youth and she can't move past that and uses art in every way to express her decades of misery to the whole wide world. Or maybe she's truly sick in the mind since I can't get over how one thinks it's ok to paste nude teen girls on their walls even those young p0rn infested brain b0ys don't do that. Yet it's also hard to take pity on her when she stupidly drags everyone else with her

I'm one of those people who hates nj producers for the lyrics and concept they put out because they are bringing back that dumb submissive notion of girls doing whatever it takes to get their men... I really hate this. I pity those nj girls though because often it's not their choice. Please put the end on this type of era though. No more young girls simping hard for older boys or men concept. Gross.

Was agreeing with you untill this last point… Cause that’s most definitely not newjeans concept or message. What?

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Wait did she come out? Her exhibition will be held on Lesbian visibility day.

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So how much did she pay her friend to queerbait with her?

0 cause she doesn't queerbait, she is queer

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Bruh am telling ya'll these moonsun shippers are next level delusional.

they're the most delusional shippers atleast other shippers are crazy but ship for fun, MS shippers genuinely think their biases are gay and dating

watch them get a straight dating scandal this year. i'd enjoy their tears

x2 wouldn't enjoy anyone's turmoil over their ship tanking but damn! these shippers are so annoying that I would want it to tank so we can move on from their essays to defend their delusional asses

Stop quoting yourself, weirdo.

Lol, insecurity at its finest. It is because of fools like this ppl want the ship to tank.

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Just saw koreans explaining that the minji commend wasn’t ped0 or weird in any way. She was just being nostalgic basically, so yall can stop being weird about it.

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Wait did she come out? Her exhibition will be held on Lesbian visibility day.

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Zuuuuusss

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Just saw koreans explaining that the minji commend wasn’t ped0 or weird in any way. She was just being nostalgic basically, so yall can stop being weird about it.

Yeah I saw too

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Glad it wasn't anything weird

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So how long does nj contract still have left?
Because they got a rough couple of years up ahead.
I don't think much will change for nj the first 6 months to a year but eventually as illit start to establish themselves more it's over.
BH ego seems pretty big and nj is a group that wasn't his own creation.
I fear nj awaits the same faith as k3pler and gfriend.
Nj has already served their purpose when Behind the scenes enlisted they needed a group to mediaplay to keep investors confidence high and nj success was perfect for that.
It make sense total sense to shift all resource to illit and just let nj&mhj slowly fade into obscurity.

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I've such a bad feeling about this as I don't think the girls have any income capacity to exit this with her and that she'll take her own life after this... It's obvious she has npd and no therapy has cured her and so she sought a sh9man to help her... In a way she can't get rid of the thoughts that she's special and how the world must revolve around her as the one and only. That man is the same. Both are control freaks but he's the smart one to pretend he isn't, whereas she's the dumb one to speak from her heart...but not in a good way. Like everyone can empathize with her points about how she worked hard for this and how the industry is shit to women but she's also not helping herself with her rambling stuff randomly. It's sad. To me she's someone who has issues in her youth and she can't move past that and uses art in every way to express her decades of misery to the whole wide world. Or maybe she's truly sick in the mind since I can't get over how one thinks it's ok to paste nude teen girls on their walls even those young p0rn infested brain b0ys don't do that. Yet it's also hard to take pity on her when she stupidly drags everyone else with her

I'm one of those people who hates nj producers for the lyrics and concept they put out because they are bringing back that dumb submissive notion of girls doing whatever it takes to get their men... I really hate this. I pity those nj girls though because often it's not their choice. Please put the end on this type of era though. No more young girls simping hard for older boys or men concept. Gross.

da yeah. mhj clearly either something happened to her in her childhood/teenhood that she cant get over OR she had a very boring teenage life, is regretful over it and is using this obsession with youth to fulfil this desire. this is typical for artists who are obsessed with youth and make art around it. i pity her but shes still weird to me. i dont like this forced friendship/second mom thing shes pushing with newjeans, that isnt necessary at all to create art.

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Hey people, do you think NJ can survive (or continue dominating the industry) without MHJ's creative input?

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Bruh am telling ya'll these moonsun shippers are next level delusional.

they're the most delusional shippers atleast other shippers are crazy but ship for fun, MS shippers genuinely think their biases are gay and dating

watch them get a straight dating scandal this year. i'd enjoy their tears

x2 wouldn't enjoy anyone's turmoil over their ship tanking but damn! these shippers are so annoying that I would want it to tank so we can move on from their essays to defend their delusional asses

Seriously can mod do something with this mental illness man

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Wait did she come out? Her exhibition will be held on Lesbian visibility day.

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those are the group's representative colors and it's the fandoms birthday (the 26th)

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So how long does nj contract still have left?
Because they got a rough couple of years up ahead.
I don't think much will change for nj the first 6 months to a year but eventually as illit start to establish themselves more it's over.
BH ego seems pretty big and nj is a group that wasn't his own creation.
I fear nj awaits the same faith as k3pler and gfriend.
Nj has already served their purpose when Behind the scenes enlisted they needed a group to mediaplay to keep investors confidence high and nj success was perfect for that.
It make sense total sense to shift all resource to illit and just let nj&mhj slowly fade into obscurity.

This is kind of what I think as well except newjeans is much bigger and influential than gfriend and kepler ever were. Not only with the GP but actual critics and artsy hipster creatives in the industry love them and respect MHJs work. Ditto was a cultural reset, I don’t think they can “fade into obscurity” the easily. Only if they actually disband them.

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Hey people, do you think NJ can survive (or continue dominating the industry) without MHJ's creative input?

I think they can, but she inserted herself so much into the group life and public perception, that it's hard to imagine how this will play out without her.

For better or for worse a lot depends on Hybe and their vindictive drama queen B@ng PD. On paper, it would be foolish to think that they would kill the goose that lays the golden egg. But anon, I've seen some crazy shit in kpop, and at this point I can't be certain of anything.

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Hey people, do you think NJ can survive (or continue dominating the industry) without MHJ's creative input?

they will survive because they're backed by one of the biggest k-pop companies right now but if you're someone who loves them for their concept, aesthetic and sound.. well no. MHJ & her team is what makes them so appealing. her vision is what made them so "fresh" in the eyes of the average kpop consumer. if she leaves, hybe will definitely turn them into another generic group with a watered down version of the ideas she had for them.

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Bruh am telling ya'll these moonsun shippers are next level delusional.

they're the most delusional shippers atleast other shippers are crazy but ship for fun, MS shippers genuinely think their biases are gay and dating

watch them get a straight dating scandal this year. i'd enjoy their tears

x2 wouldn't enjoy anyone's turmoil over their ship tanking but damn! these shippers are so annoying that I would want it to tank so we can move on from their essays to defend their delusional asses

Stop quoting yourself, weirdo.

Lol, insecurity at its finest. It is because of fools like this ppl want the ship to tank.

we are in the middle of mhj drama can you behave and stop quoting yourself with same old shit

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Wait did she come out? Her exhibition will be held on Lesbian visibility day.

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those are the group's representative colors and it's the fandoms birthday (the 26th)

I know about the fandom birthday but it's also possible two have two meanings. The group's main colors also don't have orange and red. For example 's representative color is pink but that's not in there. It's simply a rainbow flag. It being posted on lesbian visibility day Korean time is just...

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So how long does nj contract still have left?
Because they got a rough couple of years up ahead.
I don't think much will change for nj the first 6 months to a year but eventually as illit start to establish themselves more it's over.
BH ego seems pretty big and nj is a group that wasn't his own creation.
I fear nj awaits the same faith as k3pler and gfriend.
Nj has already served their purpose when Behind the scenes enlisted they needed a group to mediaplay to keep investors confidence high and nj success was perfect for that.
It make sense total sense to shift all resource to illit and just let nj&mhj slowly fade into obscurity.

This is kind of what I think as well except newjeans is much bigger and influential than gfriend and kepler ever were. Not only with the GP but actual critics and artsy hipster creatives in the industry love them and respect MHJs work. Ditto was a cultural reset, I don’t think they can “fade into obscurity” the easily. Only if they actually disband them.

I actually cried the first time I saw the Ditto MVs. I have never experienced something that represents girlhood and youthfulness in such a raw way. It reminded me of my own school days. There is magic behind NJ; it's gentle, cute, sweet. I don't like ILLIT because they seem like over-produced copycats. However, out of all the groups that have attempted it, they are the ones who have recreated the NJ formula the best. They're still missing something, though. I wonder what.

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There was apparently a funny post on that blind item forum, where verified employees of various companies work, and few folks weredragging MHJ, by saying how much NJ owns hybe: streaming campaigns, promo, brand partnership, brand endorsement, appearance on lollapalooza, Billboard Awards etc.
Of course, everyone and their mother screamed payola, which is only partially true, because obviously demand was there, but at the same time no doubt the adavantage of being under Hybe umbreall is HUGE.

So, if someone asks what the future holds for NJ - with Hybe protection and support they can survive this, but if Hybe starts to cut them off, then...idk.

post from that employee undert ST

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