Korean Entertainment - Part II

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I'm sorry to say this but if women only ping to you when they're wearing hoodies and a cap, your gaydar really is awful. I never used to think that femmephobia was a thing before this thread was invaded by teenagers who act like the worst thing you can say about their favourite idol is that they aren't "masc"... Like really, what's up with gen z? Why are they acting this bizarre?

Literally mannn I'm so tired of this topic being brought up over and over.

It's not the clothes but the vibe that person has! It's very difficult to put into words but it's a certain attitude/mannerisms that gay people tend to have and us gays can easily detect them in other ppl.
For example, you can put Billie Eilish, Fletcher or Cara Delevingne in the most feminine outfit yet they still "ping" and have a queer vibe to them.

In kpop I'll just put newjeans as an example. They are often styled in baggy and sporty clothes, however, there's one member that I get a strong gay vibe from, Minji. Danielle looks extremely straight even when she's wearing "masculine" clothes lol
However, Hanni, who is more femme presenting and does not look stereotypically gay at all, I also get that queer vibe from her

I think gaydar is a very personal thing, it's how we instinctively perceive people in a way that we might relate to, if that makes sense. It is not a list of stereotypes that you can just tick boxes off

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Da I'm sorry but all I can see is when a parent tells their kid to smile for a pic, and the kid smiles awkwardly until the photo is done

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This is what it feels like when some of y'all call very OBVIOUS sapphic idols straight, "all korean women dress masc and wear baggy clothes" not that it automatically means they're gay but NO they do NOt omg it's hard to believe this is a lesbian forum sometimes

Girl, where I live, tomboyish country girls dress and act like this and they’re straight as a pole. This doesn’t mean anything without any other strong receipts. Who are the “OBVIOUS” sapphic idols that you’re talking about

D.A I don't need to be that anon to be able to tell the "obvious" sapphic idol they're talking about is Minji.

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I'm sorry to say this but if women only ping to you when they're wearing hoodies and a cap, your gaydar really is awful. I never used to think that femmephobia was a thing before this thread was invaded by teenagers who act like the worst thing you can say about their favourite idol is that they aren't "masc"... Like really, what's up with gen z? Why are they acting this bizarre?

But literally no one says this? It’s a meme at this point. If anything people use the masc clothing as an extra “oh btw they dress like this” situation.
Like where are you saying people claim so and so is gay exclusively because they wear baggy clothes…?

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This is what it feels like when some of y'all call very OBVIOUS sapphic idols straight, "all korean women dress masc and wear baggy clothes" not that it automatically means they're gay but NO they do NOt omg it's hard to believe this is a lesbian forum sometimes

Girl, where I live, tomboyish country girls dress and act like this and they’re straight as a pole. This doesn’t mean anything without any other strong receipts. Who are the “OBVIOUS” sapphic idols that you’re talking about

Ooohhhh you wanna know who I think is wlw?????

Ok, since you asked, I'll give u a list of idols I think are attracted to women, regardless of how they dress ofc lol
EMPHASIS ON *I* myyyy gaydar
(I feel the need to add I'm not saying they're lesbians before y'all jump at me saying "but but but X has rumours with this male": I don't fucking care)

There u go:

- Moonbyul of course
- Wendy
- Yves
- Eunseo
- Ryujin
- Seola
- Taeyeon
- Kim Lip
- Yuqi
- Nana
- Wheein
- Minji
- Hanni
and possibly Yeji but she's a mystery to me, very hard to read

Those are the ones that come to my mind because they're from groups I have consumed content of and have an idea of what they're like

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This is what it feels like when some of y'all call very OBVIOUS sapphic idols straight, "all korean women dress masc and wear baggy clothes" not that it automatically means they're gay but NO they do NOt omg it's hard to believe this is a lesbian forum sometimes

Girl, where I live, tomboyish country girls dress and act like this and they’re straight as a pole. This doesn’t mean anything without any other strong receipts. Who are the “OBVIOUS” sapphic idols that you’re talking about

Ooohhhh you wanna know who I think is wlw?????

Ok, since you asked, I'll give u a list of idols I think are attracted to women, regardless of how they dress ofc lol
EMPHASIS ON *I* myyyy gaydar
(I feel the need to add I'm not saying they're lesbians before y'all jump at me saying "but but but X has rumours with this male": I don't fucking care)

There u go:

- Moonbyul of course
- Wendy
- Yves
- Eunseo
- Ryujin
- Seola
- Taeyeon
- Kim Lip
- Yuqi
- Nana
- Wheein
- Minji
- Hanni
and possibly Yeji but she's a mystery to me, very hard to read

Those are the ones that come to my mind because they're from groups I have consumed content of and have an idea of what they're like

da People will come at you for Ryujin but you’re absolutely correct. Bonus points for the absence of Karina.

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This is what it feels like when some of y'all call very OBVIOUS sapphic idols straight, "all korean women dress masc and wear baggy clothes" not that it automatically means they're gay but NO they do NOt omg it's hard to believe this is a lesbian forum sometimes

Girl, where I live, tomboyish country girls dress and act like this and they’re straight as a pole. This doesn’t mean anything without any other strong receipts. Who are the “OBVIOUS” sapphic idols that you’re talking about

Ooohhhh you wanna know who I think is wlw?????

Ok, since you asked, I'll give u a list of idols I think are attracted to women, regardless of how they dress ofc lol
EMPHASIS ON *I* myyyy gaydar
(I feel the need to add I'm not saying they're lesbians before y'all jump at me saying "but but but X has rumours with this male": I don't fucking care)

There u go:

- Moonbyul of course
- Wendy
- Yves
- Eunseo
- Ryujin
- Seola
- Taeyeon
- Kim Lip
- Yuqi
- Nana
- Wheein
- Minji
- Hanni
and possibly Yeji but she's a mystery to me, very hard to read

Those are the ones that come to my mind because they're from groups I have consumed content of and have an idea of what they're like

Im sorry but Hanni and Minji both being queer out of a group of 5 is so incredibly improbable pls

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This is what it feels like when some of y'all call very OBVIOUS sapphic idols straight, "all korean women dress masc and wear baggy clothes" not that it automatically means they're gay but NO they do NOt omg it's hard to believe this is a lesbian forum sometimes

Girl, where I live, tomboyish country girls dress and act like this and they’re straight as a pole. This doesn’t mean anything without any other strong receipts. Who are the “OBVIOUS” sapphic idols that you’re talking about

Ooohhhh you wanna know who I think is wlw?????

Ok, since you asked, I'll give u a list of idols I think are attracted to women, regardless of how they dress ofc lol
EMPHASIS ON *I* myyyy gaydar
(I feel the need to add I'm not saying they're lesbians before y'all jump at me saying "but but but X has rumours with this male": I don't fucking care)

There u go:

- Moonbyul of course
- Wendy
- Yves
- Eunseo
- Ryujin
- Seola
- Taeyeon
- Kim Lip
- Yuqi
- Nana
- Wheein
- Minji
- Hanni
and possibly Yeji but she's a mystery to me, very hard to read

Those are the ones that come to my mind because they're from groups I have consumed content of and have an idea of what they're like

da People will come at you for Ryujin but you’re absolutely correct. Bonus points for the absence of Karina.

The way Ryujin stans act like she personally told them she is not straight is hilarious

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This is what it feels like when some of y'all call very OBVIOUS sapphic idols straight, "all korean women dress masc and wear baggy clothes" not that it automatically means they're gay but NO they do NOt omg it's hard to believe this is a lesbian forum sometimes

Girl, where I live, tomboyish country girls dress and act like this and they’re straight as a pole. This doesn’t mean anything without any other strong receipts. Who are the “OBVIOUS” sapphic idols that you’re talking about

Ooohhhh you wanna know who I think is wlw?????

Ok, since you asked, I'll give u a list of idols I think are attracted to women, regardless of how they dress ofc lol
EMPHASIS ON *I* myyyy gaydar
(I feel the need to add I'm not saying they're lesbians before y'all jump at me saying "but but but X has rumours with this male": I don't fucking care)

There u go:

- Moonbyul of course
- Wendy
- Yves
- Eunseo
- Ryujin
- Seola
- Taeyeon
- Kim Lip
- Yuqi
- Nana
- Wheein
- Minji
- Hanni
and possibly Yeji but she's a mystery to me, very hard to read

Those are the ones that come to my mind because they're from groups I have consumed content of and have an idea of what they're like

Da genuine question, but why kim lip? I'm an orbit and she doesn't really give me any vibes outside of orbits calling her gay

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This is what it feels like when some of y'all call very OBVIOUS sapphic idols straight, "all korean women dress masc and wear baggy clothes" not that it automatically means they're gay but NO they do NOt omg it's hard to believe this is a lesbian forum sometimes

You forgot Jihyo

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This is what it feels like when some of y'all call very OBVIOUS sapphic idols straight, "all korean women dress masc and wear baggy clothes" not that it automatically means they're gay but NO they do NOt omg it's hard to believe this is a lesbian forum sometimes

You forgot Jihyo

don't forget these two mascs who have been forced into het relationships and prevented from living their truth by homophobic korea

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yall didn't have to do OP like that

But if say Moonbyul though

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Whatever floats your boat, my dear..

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yall didn't have to do OP like that

But if say Moonbyul though

Please don't. It's too much crazy to contain.

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I'm sorry to say this but if women only ping to you when they're wearing hoodies and a cap, your gaydar really is awful. I never used to think that femmephobia was a thing before this thread was invaded by teenagers who act like the worst thing you can say about their favourite idol is that they aren't "masc"... Like really, what's up with gen z? Why are they acting this bizarre?

Femmes don't ping unless they're artsy homosexuals. No way to know a femme is gay from appearance/mannerisms alone.

Who could've thought this mixnine contestant was a lesbian.


Well you apparently since you're not a horrible zoomerz. Feel free to share your pinging science when it comes to femmes.

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I'm sorry to say this but if women only ping to you when they're wearing hoodies and a cap, your gaydar really is awful. I never used to think that femmephobia was a thing before this thread was invaded by teenagers who act like the worst thing you can say about their favourite idol is that they aren't "masc"... Like really, what's up with gen z? Why are they acting this bizarre?

Literally mannn I'm so tired of this topic being brought up over and over.

It's not the clothes but the vibe that person has! It's very difficult to put into words but it's a certain attitude/mannerisms that gay people tend to have and us gays can easily detect them in other ppl.
For example, you can put Billie Eilish, Fletcher or Cara Delevingne in the most feminine outfit yet they still "ping" and have a queer vibe to them.

In kpop I'll just put newjeans as an example. They are often styled in baggy and sporty clothes, however, there's one member that I get a strong gay vibe from, Minji. Danielle looks extremely straight even when she's wearing "masculine" clothes lol
However, Hanni, who is more femme presenting and does not look stereotypically gay at all, I also get that queer vibe from her

I think gaydar is a very personal thing, it's how we instinctively perceive people in a way that we might relate to, if that makes sense. It is not a list of stereotypes that you can just tick boxes off

Lol you thought those heckerinos zoomerz were not relaying on vibes all along? Nobody here thought jihyo was gay and the few who did were longtime fans who were emitting the possibility that she could have been curious, searching herself etc. Women don't ping because of their clothes, yes it's a bonus, they ping cause they ooze gay and that is their personality and style too. Jihyo pings at times, but it's too rare for me to think she oozes gay. She oozes dominant sporty het (a bit tomboy and masculine).

Idols i think ooze gay whatever their style :
-ryujin
-moonbyul
-minji
-yena
-jeongyeon
-siyeon
-yuqi
-han so hee

Idols who have given me vibes but wouldn't say ooze gay:
-karina
-yeji
-xg harvey
-wendy
-bahiyyih
-yves
-heejin
-somi
-dahyun
-chaeyoung

Last list could be biased, but i tried to be the least. Just vibes, regardless of rumors and whatnot.

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I'm sorry to say this but if women only ping to you when they're wearing hoodies and a cap, your gaydar really is awful. I never used to think that femmephobia was a thing before this thread was invaded by teenagers who act like the worst thing you can say about their favourite idol is that they aren't "masc"... Like really, what's up with gen z? Why are they acting this bizarre?

Femmes don't ping unless they're artsy homosexuals. No way to know a femme is gay from appearance/mannerisms alone.

Who could've thought this mixnine contestant was a lesbian.

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Well you apparently since you're not a horrible zoomerz. Feel free to share your pinging science when it comes to femmes.

DA
It's like talking to a wall with you zoomertards.

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

[Guest]

I'm sorry to say this but if women only ping to you when they're wearing hoodies and a cap, your gaydar really is awful. I never used to think that femmephobia was a thing before this thread was invaded by teenagers who act like the worst thing you can say about their favourite idol is that they aren't "masc"... Like really, what's up with gen z? Why are they acting this bizarre?

Femmes don't ping unless they're artsy homosexuals. No way to know a femme is gay from appearance/mannerisms alone.

Who could've thought this mixnine contestant was a lesbian.

SPOILERSPOILER

Well you apparently since you're not a horrible zoomerz. Feel free to share your pinging science when it comes to femmes.

DA
It's like talking to a wall with you zoomertards.

I like how you keep writing insults while acting superior but SYSTEMATICALLY never give one single argument despite the clear invitation for you to do so. You're the r----- until you prove otherwise, stfu.

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I know i saw some anon said seola sus. But at least to me, i heard nothing about bona. Why is seolbo so awkward anyway, like are they hate skinship so much or because there were cameras around? this is the only question i have.. cute weirdo

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I'm sorry to say this but if women only ping to you when they're wearing hoodies and a cap, your gaydar really is awful. I never used to think that femmephobia was a thing before this thread was invaded by teenagers who act like the worst thing you can say about their favourite idol is that they aren't "masc"... Like really, what's up with gen z? Why are they acting this bizarre?

But literally no one says this? It’s a meme at this point. If anything people use the masc clothing as an extra “oh btw they dress like this” situation.
Like where are you saying people claim so and so is gay exclusively because they wear baggy clothes…?

You constantly call those idols masc. What does it mean then if not tomboyish clothes?

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I'm sorry to say this but if women only ping to you when they're wearing hoodies and a cap, your gaydar really is awful. I never used to think that femmephobia was a thing before this thread was invaded by teenagers who act like the worst thing you can say about their favourite idol is that they aren't "masc"... Like really, what's up with gen z? Why are they acting this bizarre?

But literally no one says this? It’s a meme at this point. If anything people use the masc clothing as an extra “oh btw they dress like this” situation.
Like where are you saying people claim so and so is gay exclusively because they wear baggy clothes…?

You constantly call those idols masc. What does it mean then if not tomboyish clothes?

And? What if they’re masc/tomboy how does that negate what I said, can you read?

You’re implying people here claim so and so is gay cause they wear baggy clothes which is a lie since straight girls also do it. People claim so and so is gay cause they have a gay vibe or gay receipts beyond their tomboy styling choices.

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

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The word masc needs to be banned

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Da. Fair enough. Imo her singing that song makes her 0% sus. It actually makes her even less sus than if she had not done it cause I honestly don’t think a young queer person in her position with her personality type would do that.

Nayeon? A seasoned 25+ yo idol who’s known for being a troll and not giving a fuck, performing that in her own world tour away from GP perception? Yeah sure I could see it meaning n something (even that is reaching). Yujin performing it with another person on national television? Nah.

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Yes, because the literal point of pinging is just vibes, and those are observable even if you don't understand a word that the woman says. Basically receipts should not matter for pinging otherwise it's not pinging anymore and just relying on facts&logic rather than vibes. Do you get it? Also no singing BTW doesn't make her more suspicious than Minji otherwise the twice women who sang BTW are also more suspicious, doesn't make sense it's just a song with foreign lyrics to them. I'm not talking about being suspicious btw but pinging, just pinging. Idk if minji is gay or straight, i have no opinion on her because she has 0 receipts, but based on vibe alone I know she'd make me notice her in the street.

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Da. Fair enough. Imo her singing that song makes her 0% sus. It actually makes her even less sus than if she had not done it cause I honestly don’t think a young queer person in her position with her personality type would do that.

Nayeon? A seasoned 25+ yo idol who’s known for being a troll and not giving a fuck, performing that in her own world tour away from GP perception? Yeah sure I could see it meaning n something (even that is reaching). Yujin performing it with another person on national television? Nah.

Da

I suppose you’re not a fan because that’s exactly the type of thing Yujin would do. She herself said that she’s rebellious and that she often goes against what people expect from her. I don’t see the logic in signing BTW on a national tv for the sake of it. Then talking about how much the performance meant to her?

Nayeon didn’t even cover it in Korea.

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Yes, because the literal point of pinging is just vibes, and those are observable even if you don't understand a word that the woman says. Basically receipts should not matter for pinging otherwise it's not pinging anymore and just relying on facts&logic rather than vibes. Do you get it? Also no singing BTW doesn't make her more suspicious than Minji otherwise the twice women who sang BTW are also more suspicious, doesn't make sense it's just a song with foreign lyrics to them. I'm not talking about being suspicious btw but pinging, just pinging. Idk if minji is gay or straight, i have no opinion on her because she has 0 receipts, but based on vibe alone I know she'd make me notice her in the street.

A foreign song which she perfectly understands and purposely chose to perform? Not to mention they divided the parts, so she once again chose to sing the “no matter straight, gay or bi” line. Then spoke to her fans about how much the performance meant to her? If we’re going based on this logic, then sus idols (such as Jokwon) also covered BTW.

And the last sentence about noticing her in the streets just confirms that it’s your hopeful thinking when it comes to Minji because you find her attractive.

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Da. Fair enough. Imo her singing that song makes her 0% sus. It actually makes her even less sus than if she had not done it cause I honestly don’t think a young queer person in her position with her personality type would do that.

Nayeon? A seasoned 25+ yo idol who’s known for being a troll and not giving a fuck, performing that in her own world tour away from GP perception? Yeah sure I could see it meaning n something (even that is reaching). Yujin performing it with another person on national television? Nah.

Da

I suppose you’re not a fan because that’s exactly the type of thing Yujin would do. She herself said that she’s rebellious and that she often goes against what people expect from her. I don’t see the logic in signing BTW on a national tv for the sake of it. Then talking about how much the performance meant to her?

Nayeon didn’t even cover it in Korea.

da Maybe it meant a lot to Yujin because she's real close to Wonyoung who's queer and she wanted to signal she supports her and spark change in SK so she can proudly love

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Da. Fair enough. Imo her singing that song makes her 0% sus. It actually makes her even less sus than if she had not done it cause I honestly don’t think a young queer person in her position with her personality type would do that.

Nayeon? A seasoned 25+ yo idol who’s known for being a troll and not giving a fuck, performing that in her own world tour away from GP perception? Yeah sure I could see it meaning n something (even that is reaching). Yujin performing it with another person on national television? Nah.

Da

I suppose you’re not a fan because that’s exactly the type of thing Yujin would do. She herself said that she’s rebellious and that she often goes against what people expect from her. I don’t see the logic in signing BTW on a national tv for the sake of it. Then talking about how much the performance meant to her?

Nayeon didn’t even cover it in Korea.

da Maybe it meant a lot to Yujin because she's real close to Wonyoung who's queer and she wanted to signal she supports her and spark change in SK so she can proudly love

Da the mental gymnastics and bias against Yujin is hilarious apparently a woman who side eyed the LGBT flag is sus but another who talked about how much BTW meant to her is just supporting her coworker

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Yes, because the literal point of pinging is just vibes, and those are observable even if you don't understand a word that the woman says. Basically receipts should not matter for pinging otherwise it's not pinging anymore and just relying on facts&logic rather than vibes. Do you get it? Also no singing BTW doesn't make her more suspicious than Minji otherwise the twice women who sang BTW are also more suspicious, doesn't make sense it's just a song with foreign lyrics to them. I'm not talking about being suspicious btw but pinging, just pinging. Idk if minji is gay or straight, i have no opinion on her because she has 0 receipts, but based on vibe alone I know she'd make me notice her in the street.

A foreign song which she perfectly understands and purposely chose to perform? Not to mention they divided the parts, so she once again chose to sing the “no matter straight, gay or bi” line. Then spoke to her fans about how much the performance meant to her? If we’re going based on this logic, then sus idols (such as Jokwon) also covered BTW.

And the last sentence about noticing her in the streets just confirms that it’s your hopeful thinking when it comes to Minji because you find her attractive.

I'm trying to be "objective" here not like you defending the homosexuality of your faves when it's not even the point, cause i couldn't care less about these idols. I find Yujin slightly more attractive than Minji but both aren't that attractive to me so no, stop projecting your bad faith pov onto me. I just want to give my most unbiased opinion on who pings or not, and like I said I don't think it's a confirmation on who's gay or straight.

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Yes, because the literal point of pinging is just vibes, and those are observable even if you don't understand a word that the woman says. Basically receipts should not matter for pinging otherwise it's not pinging anymore and just relying on facts&logic rather than vibes. Do you get it? Also no singing BTW doesn't make her more suspicious than Minji otherwise the twice women who sang BTW are also more suspicious, doesn't make sense it's just a song with foreign lyrics to them. I'm not talking about being suspicious btw but pinging, just pinging. Idk if minji is gay or straight, i have no opinion on her because she has 0 receipts, but based on vibe alone I know she'd make me notice her in the street.

A foreign song which she perfectly understands and purposely chose to perform? Not to mention they divided the parts, so she once again chose to sing the “no matter straight, gay or bi” line. Then spoke to her fans about how much the performance meant to her? If we’re going based on this logic, then sus idols (such as Jokwon) also covered BTW.

And the last sentence about noticing her in the streets just confirms that it’s your hopeful thinking when it comes to Minji because you find her attractive.

Da Minji anons are so delusional and come up with the most ridiculous thinking itt when what they mean is they find her attractive so they want her to be gay. They are resentful of Yujin especially because she encapsulates the same role in the thread as Minji yet is seen as more sus because of covering BTW so they wield their tinfoil logic heavily when it comes to Yujin so they can use it to "one-up" her.

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So what recipes does Minji have? Her fans here keep saying how it's not only about her clothes so what is it then? And don't reply with some homophobic comments talking about her "gay personality" or anything like that. I want REAL receipts.

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I'm sorry to say this but if women only ping to you when they're wearing hoodies and a cap, your gaydar really is awful. I never used to think that femmephobia was a thing before this thread was invaded by teenagers who act like the worst thing you can say about their favourite idol is that they aren't "masc"... Like really, what's up with gen z? Why are they acting this bizarre?

But literally no one says this? It’s a meme at this point. If anything people use the masc clothing as an extra “oh btw they dress like this” situation.
Like where are you saying people claim so and so is gay exclusively because they wear baggy clothes…?

You constantly call those idols masc. What does it mean then if not tomboyish clothes?

And? What if they’re masc/tomboy how does that negate what I said, can you read?

You’re implying people here claim so and so is gay cause they wear baggy clothes which is a lie since straight girls also do it. People claim so and so is gay cause they have a gay vibe or gay receipts beyond their tomboy styling choices.

Da It's funny because the idols whose fans harp on about how much of a masc tomboy they are never actually have any gay receipts. If y'all had actual receipts to talk about then you'd talk about them, not make your millionth essay on how an idol's clothing and mannerisms means she has to be at least bi.

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Yes, because the literal point of pinging is just vibes, and those are observable even if you don't understand a word that the woman says. Basically receipts should not matter for pinging otherwise it's not pinging anymore and just relying on facts&logic rather than vibes. Do you get it? Also no singing BTW doesn't make her more suspicious than Minji otherwise the twice women who sang BTW are also more suspicious, doesn't make sense it's just a song with foreign lyrics to them. I'm not talking about being suspicious btw but pinging, just pinging. Idk if minji is gay or straight, i have no opinion on her because she has 0 receipts, but based on vibe alone I know she'd make me notice her in the street.

A foreign song which she perfectly understands and purposely chose to perform? Not to mention they divided the parts, so she once again chose to sing the “no matter straight, gay or bi” line. Then spoke to her fans about how much the performance meant to her? If we’re going based on this logic, then sus idols (such as Jokwon) also covered BTW.

And the last sentence about noticing her in the streets just confirms that it’s your hopeful thinking when it comes to Minji because you find her attractive.

Da Minji anons are so delusional and come up with the most ridiculous thinking itt when what they mean is they find her attractive so they want her to be gay. They are resentful of Yujin especially because she encapsulates the same role in the thread as Minji yet is seen as more sus because of covering BTW so they wield their tinfoil logic heavily when it comes to Yujin so they can use it to "one-up" her.

x2 it’s really weird how they’re claiming that singing BTW makes her less sus as if every gay person is ashamed of their sexuality and is a repressed homophobe.

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Yes, because the literal point of pinging is just vibes, and those are observable even if you don't understand a word that the woman says. Basically receipts should not matter for pinging otherwise it's not pinging anymore and just relying on facts&logic rather than vibes. Do you get it? Also no singing BTW doesn't make her more suspicious than Minji otherwise the twice women who sang BTW are also more suspicious, doesn't make sense it's just a song with foreign lyrics to them. I'm not talking about being suspicious btw but pinging, just pinging. Idk if minji is gay or straight, i have no opinion on her because she has 0 receipts, but based on vibe alone I know she'd make me notice her in the street.

Da this can go both ways because sus idols (like J*kwon and K8y I think) also covered the song soo

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it’s not just the clothes it’s the entire VIBE, i know a homo when I see one call me delusional idc

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Yes, because the literal point of pinging is just vibes, and those are observable even if you don't understand a word that the woman says. Basically receipts should not matter for pinging otherwise it's not pinging anymore and just relying on facts&logic rather than vibes. Do you get it? Also no singing BTW doesn't make her more suspicious than Minji otherwise the twice women who sang BTW are also more suspicious, doesn't make sense it's just a song with foreign lyrics to them. I'm not talking about being suspicious btw but pinging, just pinging. Idk if minji is gay or straight, i have no opinion on her because she has 0 receipts, but based on vibe alone I know she'd make me notice her in the street.

A foreign song which she perfectly understands and purposely chose to perform? Not to mention they divided the parts, so she once again chose to sing the “no matter straight, gay or bi” line. Then spoke to her fans about how much the performance meant to her? If we’re going based on this logic, then sus idols (such as Jokwon) also covered BTW.

And the last sentence about noticing her in the streets just confirms that it’s your hopeful thinking when it comes to Minji because you find her attractive.

Da Minji anons are so delusional and come up with the most ridiculous thinking itt when what they mean is they find her attractive so they want her to be gay. They are resentful of Yujin especially because she encapsulates the same role in the thread as Minji yet is seen as more sus because of covering BTW so they wield their tinfoil logic heavily when it comes to Yujin so they can use it to "one-up" her.

Anytime a Yujin anon says this i cringe so hard That anon isn’t even a Minji anon they literally said they find Yujin “slightly more attractive” and don’t even care about either of them.
I on the other hand am a Minji anon and I couldn’t care less about Yujin or one upping her. YOU friend are projecting and seem to be the one weirdly resentful that a new girl is gaining attention other than your fave. Weirdo.

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Regardless who ends up the gay one, I'm happy we have both Yujin and Minji as the girl attractors in the 4th generation. I skipped the 3rd generation but I guess Yuri and Taeyeon were the ones in the 2nd generation.

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it’s not just the clothes it’s the entire VIBE, i know a homo when I see one call me delusional idc

She’s has no business being this hot, if she’s not gay Im suing hybe. This might be another Karina situation unfortunately

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I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Yes, because the literal point of pinging is just vibes, and those are observable even if you don't understand a word that the woman says. Basically receipts should not matter for pinging otherwise it's not pinging anymore and just relying on facts&logic rather than vibes. Do you get it? Also no singing BTW doesn't make her more suspicious than Minji otherwise the twice women who sang BTW are also more suspicious, doesn't make sense it's just a song with foreign lyrics to them. I'm not talking about being suspicious btw but pinging, just pinging. Idk if minji is gay or straight, i have no opinion on her because she has 0 receipts, but based on vibe alone I know she'd make me notice her in the street.

A foreign song which she perfectly understands and purposely chose to perform? Not to mention they divided the parts, so she once again chose to sing the “no matter straight, gay or bi” line. Then spoke to her fans about how much the performance meant to her? If we’re going based on this logic, then sus idols (such as Jokwon) also covered BTW.

And the last sentence about noticing her in the streets just confirms that it’s your hopeful thinking when it comes to Minji because you find her attractive.

Da Minji anons are so delusional and come up with the most ridiculous thinking itt when what they mean is they find her attractive so they want her to be gay. They are resentful of Yujin especially because she encapsulates the same role in the thread as Minji yet is seen as more sus because of covering BTW so they wield their tinfoil logic heavily when it comes to Yujin so they can use it to "one-up" her.

Anytime a Yujin anon says this i cringe so hard That anon isn’t even a Minji anon they literally said they find Yujin “slightly more attractive” and don’t even care about either of them.
I on the other hand am a Minji anon and I couldn’t care less about Yujin or one upping her. YOU friend are projecting and seem to be the one weirdly resentful that a new girl is gaining attention other than your fave. Weirdo.

Da can you please shut the fuck up? I’m curious what sort of tactic hybe is using because these Minji/NJ anons are the most annoying people in here. Literal children

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Sorry to interrupt the current discussion flow, but some rather gossipy news from Weibo have come to light.

Apparently industry people are preparing for a possible Red Velvet Irene solo song and/or subunit activities. As you can imagine - most are against it because of her bad reputation. A lot of staff are discussing how to stop her from promoting. So there will be an uptick in posts about her scandal! The editor is aware of that too and she obviously supports it. One thing she isn't sure about is whether she will reveal the recording from when Irene yelled at her. She still has it.

If you want the hear the recording as well, you can send her a DM and say words of encouragement. I also think everyone should know the truth about Irene ngl. Knowing how many people are coming together to stop the solo promo says a lot!

As Dispatch and SM don't have good relations right now, the editor could team up with Dispatch to release the transcript of the recording.

SPOILERSPOILER

The editor's Instagram is @stayinalivelooks Please send many supportive messages and ask kindly for the release of the recording. You can send something like "강국화님 많이 응원합니다! 녹취가 공개되면 드디어 진실이 밝혀집니다."

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^^ I forgot Yujin in the last list, yujin does ping. Though when watching content and her real personality she pings less, but before knowing that, from vibes alone i thought she pinged.

I’m neutral about both but Yujin is definitely more sus than Minji so it seems like your “pingining” is solely based on clothes and mannerisms. Singing BTW and specifically the “no matter straight bi or gay” line is more significant imo

Yes, because the literal point of pinging is just vibes, and those are observable even if you don't understand a word that the woman says. Basically receipts should not matter for pinging otherwise it's not pinging anymore and just relying on facts&logic rather than vibes. Do you get it? Also no singing BTW doesn't make her more suspicious than Minji otherwise the twice women who sang BTW are also more suspicious, doesn't make sense it's just a song with foreign lyrics to them. I'm not talking about being suspicious btw but pinging, just pinging. Idk if minji is gay or straight, i have no opinion on her because she has 0 receipts, but based on vibe alone I know she'd make me notice her in the street.

A foreign song which she perfectly understands and purposely chose to perform? Not to mention they divided the parts, so she once again chose to sing the “no matter straight, gay or bi” line. Then spoke to her fans about how much the performance meant to her? If we’re going based on this logic, then sus idols (such as Jokwon) also covered BTW.

And the last sentence about noticing her in the streets just confirms that it’s your hopeful thinking when it comes to Minji because you find her attractive.

I'm trying to be "objective" here not like you defending the homosexuality of your faves when it's not even the point, cause i couldn't care less about these idols. I find Yujin slightly more attractive than Minji but both aren't that attractive to me so no, stop projecting your bad faith pov onto me. I just want to give my most unbiased opinion on who pings or not, and like I said I don't think it's a confirmation on who's gay or straight.

I literally said I’m neutral about both of them if you can read so I’m not defending anyone’s homosexuality. I’m simply saying what you are saying is illogical and biased, unless you believe in homophobic stereotypes.

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I'm not a reveluv and I don't really feel much about Irene, but I had to wonder if this sort of level of hatred is really justified? Yeah, she screamed at someone but she's didn't kill anyone or rape anyone nor any horrible that.

She's just mean and hard to deal with. But so are many brilliant people and men and you don't see this sort of cancelation.

As I said, don't really care about her, but it surprised me

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Sorry to interrupt the current discussion flow, but some rather gossipy news from Weibo have come to light.

Apparently industry people are preparing for a possible Red Velvet Irene solo song and/or subunit activities. As you can imagine - most are against it because of her bad reputation. A lot of staff are discussing how to stop her from promoting. So there will be an uptick in posts about her scandal! The editor is aware of that too and she obviously supports it. One thing she isn't sure about is whether she will reveal the recording from when Irene yelled at her. She still has it.

If you want the hear the recording as well, you can send her a DM and say words of encouragement. I also think everyone should know the truth about Irene ngl. Knowing how many people are coming together to stop the solo promo says a lot!

As Dispatch and SM don't have good relations right now, the editor could team up with Dispatch to release the transcript of the recording.

SPOILERSPOILER

The editor's Instagram is @stayinalivelooks Please send many supportive messages and ask kindly for the release of the recording. You can send something like "강국화님 많이 응원합니다! 녹취가 공개되면 드디어 진실이 밝혀집니다."

What exactly does this have to do with this thread? I don't even like Irene but this reads like more Reveluv inner akgae fandom fighting bs like they always bring into this thread. Trying to recruit people to hound the editor lol... you're batshit.

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ILLIT Yunah.. Is it stereotypical to say she looks gay because she has a more masculine build?

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Arguing over who has more receipts is stupid in general but it's even stupider when one of the idols has been active for 5-6 years while the other has been active for 1-2 years. Please stop turning everything into a fanwar.

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ILLIT Yunah.. Is it stereotypical to say she looks gay because she has a more masculine build?

Do you really need someone to answer that for you?

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Yes, because the literal point of pinging is just vibes, and those are observable even if you don't understand a word that the woman says. Basically receipts should not matter for pinging otherwise it's not pinging anymore and just relying on facts&logic rather than vibes. Do you get it? Also no singing BTW doesn't make her more suspicious than Minji otherwise the twice women who sang BTW are also more suspicious, doesn't make sense it's just a song with foreign lyrics to them. I'm not talking about being suspicious btw but pinging, just pinging. Idk if minji is gay or straight, i have no opinion on her because she has 0 receipts, but based on vibe alone I know she'd make me notice her in the street.

A foreign song which she perfectly understands and purposely chose to perform? Not to mention they divided the parts, so she once again chose to sing the “no matter straight, gay or bi” line. Then spoke to her fans about how much the performance meant to her? If we’re going based on this logic, then sus idols (such as Jokwon) also covered BTW.

And the last sentence about noticing her in the streets just confirms that it’s your hopeful thinking when it comes to Minji because you find her attractive.

Da Minji anons are so delusional and come up with the most ridiculous thinking itt when what they mean is they find her attractive so they want her to be gay. They are resentful of Yujin especially because she encapsulates the same role in the thread as Minji yet is seen as more sus because of covering BTW so they wield their tinfoil logic heavily when it comes to Yujin so they can use it to "one-up" her.

Anytime a Yujin anon says this i cringe so hard That anon isn’t even a Minji anon they literally said they find Yujin “slightly more attractive” and don’t even care about either of them.
I on the other hand am a Minji anon and I couldn’t care less about Yujin or one upping her. YOU friend are projecting and seem to be the one weirdly resentful that a new girl is gaining attention other than your fave. Weirdo.

Da can you please shut the fuck up? I’m curious what sort of tactic hybe is using because these Minji/NJ anons are the most annoying people in here. Literal children

Tf? So the anon above me says Minji anons are resentful and jealous of Yujin, I say “actually no we’re not” and you’re telling me I’m the one who needs to stfu? lmaaaao

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ILLIT Yunah.. Is it stereotypical to say she looks gay because she has a more masculine build?

Yes it is. I know that this group was on a survival show, does she have any actual sus moments or are you just trying to make up a reason to post her here