Red Velvet

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Perhaps her resentment comes from giving all she had into the group only for it to be destroyed by 1 person, who was also supposed to be their leader. Have you all ever thought of that?? Why can’t she rant about it? The same way y’all were running your mouths over Joy complaining about the scandal too, why couldn’t they be mad about the situation? Saying things like how reveluvs never hold Wendy accountable, yet do you hold Irene accountable? Don’t give me the bullshit about how she’s lost everything since, cause duh those are consequences of her own actions it’s not like she had a choice beyond apologizing??

How the fuck did Irene destroy the group?? The group went on to sell double than it did after her scandal. What impact did her scandal have on high and mighty Wendy? How about her racist ass? Or are consequences only reserved for one person? No one had any hand in Wendy flopping, but her having no charisma and no personality to make it work.

Da Wendy is known to be one of the best vocalist in 3rd gen Kpop, let’s give her that but 10 years in the industry and she still doesn’t have enough casual listeners who can save her from flopping. It’s such a waste because she also doesn’t promote herself. She needs serious pr and image training. This is not the first time she implied that she is not close with her members (tho there is a possibility that since we are reading the translated version of her interviews, some things might’ve gotten lost in translation) but she also says some things that can backfire on her. I’m guessing that she just says things carelessly and not thinking that fans might misunderstand her words. Aside from that, she doesn’t have enough brand deals and magazine photoshoots that can help boost her exposure in the gp. This is not SM’s job, brands and magazines themselves choose the artist that they want to work with. Wendy has been receiving a lot of opportunities since last year but all of them didn’t make noise. The radio show was her most successful work outside of the group.

If we are talking about Irene’s scandal having an impact on Wendy’s career, then we should also say the same thing for the other members. However, it’s not the same. While Irene was on hiatus, other members were active and maintained enough presence to keep the group alive. The most active ones were Joy and Seulgi.

1° - SM did what it could for her, never has a member of red velvet had so much investment, it's not brands and magazines that make a person popular, it's putting them in direct contact with the GP and SM did that. She received investment for 3 consecutive years, she was promoted better than SM male idols.
2° - "If we are talking about Irene’s scandal having an impact on Wendy’s career"
One thing needs to be highlighted, Wendy benefited from Irene's scandal, the fact that she was Red Velvet's first soloist, post-accident, Irene's scandal, made the GP take an interest in her and have empathy. She was in ideal conditions to debut, support from fandom and GP

SA I should’ve rephrased that part. What I meant to say is that the other person up there is talking about the Irene scandal negatively impacting Wendy’s career. If that’s the case, then shouldn’t the other members be negatively affected as well? Why single out Wendy? Joy and Seulgi had photoshoots and brand endorsements. If Wendy didn’t have those during irenegate, then is it still Irene’s fault?

Wendy benefitted, yes! But still not enough to make her stand out and be the most popular member in the group. You gotta ask, what is lacking in Wendy? Is she going to end up like Luna?

Da it's easy to see what's lacking, since people love to compare her to Taeyeon whose voice is so full of emotions, who was one of snsd's best looking members before she messed her face, she was also a good dancer and fandom wise she was the most popular snsd member. Basically the full package, while Wendy's voice is so void of emotions and boring and that's not the type that Koreans like. If you listen to popular vocalists in Korea its easy to see why hers doesn't work for them. She also can't dance and lacks in the charisma and looks department. If she didn't have some deal with sm she'd be loona by now. And if she didn't have Irene and the ship, luvies and sympathy she'd also be selling half of what she's selling now.

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Perhaps her resentment comes from giving all she had into the group only for it to be destroyed by 1 person, who was also supposed to be their leader. Have you all ever thought of that?? Why can’t she rant about it? The same way y’all were running your mouths over Joy complaining about the scandal too, why couldn’t they be mad about the situation? Saying things like how reveluvs never hold Wendy accountable, yet do you hold Irene accountable? Don’t give me the bullshit about how she’s lost everything since, cause duh those are consequences of her own actions it’s not like she had a choice beyond apologizing??

You guys are coping hard bc the gp still isn't with her.. Also I feel like this has been said over and over but so many international fans have never liked her bc of the racist shit she did and it's so funny how many Wendy fans will grip onto irenes scandal to make wendy being racist better but no matter what outside of the fandom most ppl don't like her like hell even inside the fandom ppl don't like her

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Perhaps her resentment comes from giving all she had into the group only for it to be destroyed by 1 person, who was also supposed to be their leader. Have you all ever thought of that?? Why can’t she rant about it? The same way y’all were running your mouths over Joy complaining about the scandal too, why couldn’t they be mad about the situation? Saying things like how reveluvs never hold Wendy accountable, yet do you hold Irene accountable? Don’t give me the bullshit about how she’s lost everything since, cause duh those are consequences of her own actions it’s not like she had a choice beyond apologizing??

You guys are coping hard bc the gp still isn't with her.. Also I feel like this has been said over and over but so many international fans have never liked her bc of the racist shit she did and it's so funny how many Wendy fans will grip onto irenes scandal to make wendy being racist better but no matter what outside of the fandom most ppl don't like her like hell even inside the fandom ppl don't like her

da so many international fans are turned off by the group because of her racism, if anything Irene's scandal helped her positively. Atp i have seen them blame, SM (even though they shipped the albums when they usually take time), album out of stock when it was available everywhere and with a discount, the fandom, the clouds, and now Irene for her album not doing well.

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she has a mission

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She needs help. It's pretty obvious that she's struggling, and if she gets to the point of no return, she's going to unfortunately become a growing statistic within the kpop industry. I doubt this has anything to do with resentment. She's destroying her body and voice, self-sabotaged her own comeback with an obviously bad music style choice for her type of singing, and she's claiming she has no friends which points to her seemingly isolating herself from others. If I saw any of my friends going through this, I wouldn't jump to "Oh she's resentful", my mind would go straight to "she's struggling" and most likely mentally. Especially in the kpop world where this isn't uncommon.

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she has a mission

What she do now?

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She needs help. It's pretty obvious that she's struggling, and if she gets to the point of no return, she's going to unfortunately become a growing statistic within the kpop industry. I doubt this has anything to do with resentment. She's destroying her body and voice, self-sabotaged her own comeback with an obviously bad music style choice for her type of singing, and she's claiming she has no friends which points to her seemingly isolating herself from others. If I saw any of my friends going through this, I wouldn't jump to "Oh she's resentful", my mind would go straight to "she's struggling" and most likely mentally. Especially in the kpop world where this isn't uncommon.

call me mean or even evil but i pray for the day for her downfall. sorry to say this after years of her fans throwing shit to my fav, one moment this happen, im gonna celebrate.

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she has a mission

What she do now?

Never mind I now know

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she has a mission

What she do now?

giving spoilers about irene's party to s!nr!nar!ng, that wr-shipper-stalker who harasses irene

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She needs help. It's pretty obvious that she's struggling, and if she gets to the point of no return, she's going to unfortunately become a growing statistic within the kpop industry. I doubt this has anything to do with resentment. She's destroying her body and voice, self-sabotaged her own comeback with an obviously bad music style choice for her type of singing, and she's claiming she has no friends which points to her seemingly isolating herself from others. If I saw any of my friends going through this, I wouldn't jump to "Oh she's resentful", my mind would go straight to "she's struggling" and most likely mentally. Especially in the kpop world where this isn't uncommon.

call me mean or even evil but i pray for the day for her downfall. sorry to say this after years of her fans throwing shit to my fav, one moment this happen, im gonna celebrate.

It shouldn't be that serious, this kind of attitude is nothing to be proud of, wtf

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she has a mission

What she do now?

giving spoilers about irene's party to s!nr!nar!ng, that wr-shipper-stalker who harasses irene

What did she say??

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she has a mission

What she do now?

giving spoilers about irene's party to s!nr!nar!ng, that wr-shipper-stalker who harasses irene

What did she say??

That Irene will do her song challenge which is weird as fuck of Irene more than wendy.

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At this point, Irene thinks all her fans are Wenreners

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At this point, Irene thinks all her fans are Wenreners

It's so weird how she's suddenly playing this game, doing the most. This is why people need to adop acting like she's a victim of these shippers, not when she's doing this.

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Amazing how one person’s flop had to become other people’s problems too, now we’re subjected to listen to that stupid ass song just because she couldn’t pull in casuals

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Amazing how one person’s flop had to become other people’s problems too, now we’re subjected to listen to that stupid ass song just because she couldn’t pull in casuals

Blame Irene, it's not like it's a song that needs promor. So yeah let's not act like wuglies now, this is 100% on Irene.

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At this point, Irene thinks all her fans are Wenreners

It's so weird how she's suddenly playing this game, doing the most. This is why people need to adop acting like she's a victim of these shippers, not when she's doing this.

Did you understand what I said? if you don't read it again

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Amazing how one person’s flop had to become other people’s problems too, now we’re subjected to listen to that stupid ass song just because she couldn’t pull in casuals

Blame Irene, it's not like it's a song that needs promor. So yeah let's not act like wuglies now, this is 100% on Irene.

When she gets cornered at every fucking fansign by that one ugly ass wenrener?

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Amazing how one person’s flop had to become other people’s problems too, now we’re subjected to listen to that stupid ass song just because she couldn’t pull in casuals

Blame Irene, it's not like it's a song that needs promor. So yeah let's not act like wuglies now, this is 100% on Irene.

When she gets cornered at every fucking fansign by that one ugly ass wenrener?

Suddenly queerbaiting because of 1 fan?? That's stupid of her.

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At this point, Irene thinks all her fans are Wenreners

It's so weird how she's suddenly playing this game, doing the most. This is why people need to adop acting like she's a victim of these shippers, not when she's doing this.

It’s not weird. Wendy’s cb is a flop and no idol did the WYH challenge on tiktok. She needs the help that she can get. In Seulgi’s recent yt vlog, they also used the song as bg music. The other members are promoting her song instead of Wendy.

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Wendy saying that Irene would do the challenge means they talked about it before. Kind of funny that Aseul didn't do the challenge.


But

now it's irene's turn

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At this point, Irene thinks all her fans are Wenreners

It's so weird how she's suddenly playing this game, doing the most. This is why people need to adop acting like she's a victim of these shippers, not when she's doing this.

It’s not weird. Wendy’s cb is a flop and no idol did the WYH challenge on tiktok. She needs the help that she can get. In Seulgi’s recent yt vlog, they also used the song as bg music. The other members are promoting her song instead of Wendy.

Promotions are over, find another excuse. Her queerbaiting with Wendy because she's working on a solo and needs to please chinese fans makes her no different from Wendy who queerbaits for clout.

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Amazing how one person’s flop had to become other people’s problems too, now we’re subjected to listen to that stupid ass song just because she couldn’t pull in casuals

Blame Irene, it's not like it's a song that needs promor. So yeah let's not act like wuglies now, this is 100% on Irene.

When she gets cornered at every fucking fansign by that one ugly ass wenrener?

She said she's going to her party.

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At this point, Irene thinks all her fans are Wenreners

It's so weird how she's suddenly playing this game, doing the most. This is why people need to adop acting like she's a victim of these shippers, not when she's doing this.

It’s not weird. Wendy’s cb is a flop and no idol did the WYH challenge on tiktok. She needs the help that she can get. In Seulgi’s recent yt vlog, they also used the song as bg music. The other members are promoting her song instead of Wendy.

Promotions are over, find another excuse. Her queerbaiting with Wendy because she's working on a solo and needs to please chinese fans makes her no different from Wendy who queerbaits for clout.

Da
Are promotions really over?


Do you ever listen to your own bias?

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At this point, Irene thinks all her fans are Wenreners

It's so weird how she's suddenly playing this game, doing the most. This is why people need to adop acting like she's a victim of these shippers, not when she's doing this.

It’s not weird. Wendy’s cb is a flop and no idol did the WYH challenge on tiktok. She needs the help that she can get. In Seulgi’s recent yt vlog, they also used the song as bg music. The other members are promoting her song instead of Wendy.

Promotions are over, find another excuse. Her queerbaiting with Wendy because she's working on a solo and needs to please chinese fans makes her no different from Wendy who queerbaits for clout.

It's funny that you try to put the two on the same level when Wendy has fed this ship desperately over the last few years, it got to the point where Wendy's fans started going to Irene's fansign to ask for interactions, now at every fansign and even at the party birthdays they're there. I really hope that Irene takes money from these idiots because she has to go through this harassment because of Wendy.

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At this point, Irene thinks all her fans are Wenreners

It's so weird how she's suddenly playing this game, doing the most. This is why people need to adop acting like she's a victim of these shippers, not when she's doing this.

It’s not weird. Wendy’s cb is a flop and no idol did the WYH challenge on tiktok. She needs the help that she can get. In Seulgi’s recent yt vlog, they also used the song as bg music. The other members are promoting her song instead of Wendy.

Promotions are over, find another excuse. Her queerbaiting with Wendy because she's working on a solo and needs to please chinese fans makes her no different from Wendy who queerbaits for clout.

Da
Are promotions really over?


Do you ever listen to your own bias?

She's not my bias you dumbass, but promotions to help the song in a way to sell or chart are over. So yeah find another excuse for why Irene is suddenly doing this because you clearly need it since it looks it's gonna be intense wr fanservice from now on.

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At this point, Irene thinks all her fans are Wenreners

It's so weird how she's suddenly playing this game, doing the most. This is why people need to adop acting like she's a victim of these shippers, not when she's doing this.

It’s not weird. Wendy’s cb is a flop and no idol did the WYH challenge on tiktok. She needs the help that she can get. In Seulgi’s recent yt vlog, they also used the song as bg music. The other members are promoting her song instead of Wendy.

Promotions are over, find another excuse. Her queerbaiting with Wendy because she's working on a solo and needs to please chinese fans makes her no different from Wendy who queerbaits for clout.

It's funny that you try to put the two on the same level when Wendy has fed this ship desperately over the last few years, it got to the point where Wendy's fans started going to Irene's fansign to ask for interactions, now at every fansign and even at the party birthdays they're there. I really hope that Irene takes money from these idiots because she has to go through this harassment because of Wendy.

She looks fine doing it unprovoked so is she really a victim?

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It's so weird how she's suddenly playing this game, doing the most. This is why people need to adop acting like she's a victim of these shippers, not when she's doing this.

It’s not weird. Wendy’s cb is a flop and no idol did the WYH challenge on tiktok. She needs the help that she can get. In Seulgi’s recent yt vlog, they also used the song as bg music. The other members are promoting her song instead of Wendy.

Promotions are over, find another excuse. Her queerbaiting with Wendy because she's working on a solo and needs to please chinese fans makes her no different from Wendy who queerbaits for clout.

It's funny that you try to put the two on the same level when Wendy has fed this ship desperately over the last few years, it got to the point where Wendy's fans started going to Irene's fansign to ask for interactions, now at every fansign and even at the party birthdays they're there. I really hope that Irene takes money from these idiots because she has to go through this harassment because of Wendy.

She looks fine doing it unprovoked so is she really a victim?

Da she feels sorry for her so she’s helping her hype up this flopass comeback or else sinrinaring would come again to her fansign and ask her to be wanda’s therapist for her low self esteem like she did a few months ago

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It's so weird how she's suddenly playing this game, doing the most. This is why people need to adop acting like she's a victim of these shippers, not when she's doing this.

It’s not weird. Wendy’s cb is a flop and no idol did the WYH challenge on tiktok. She needs the help that she can get. In Seulgi’s recent yt vlog, they also used the song as bg music. The other members are promoting her song instead of Wendy.

Promotions are over, find another excuse. Her queerbaiting with Wendy because she's working on a solo and needs to please chinese fans makes her no different from Wendy who queerbaits for clout.

It's funny that you try to put the two on the same level when Wendy has fed this ship desperately over the last few years, it got to the point where Wendy's fans started going to Irene's fansign to ask for interactions, now at every fansign and even at the party birthdays they're there. I really hope that Irene takes money from these idiots because she has to go through this harassment because of Wendy.

She looks fine doing it unprovoked so is she really a victim?

If I had a stalker who followed me to my birthday party and thought I was dating a member of the group that I didn't even interact with outside of work, I would try to appear as calm as possible when meeting them and try not to irritate them.

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Let me get this straight, you claim Wendy needs promo and is desperate for it but she wasn't the one who mentioned they came or that Irene made the jam with her or posted anything with Irene? Wouldn't she have don that if that was right? It was all Irene's own doing.

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It’s not weird. Wendy’s cb is a flop and no idol did the WYH challenge on tiktok. She needs the help that she can get. In Seulgi’s recent yt vlog, they also used the song as bg music. The other members are promoting her song instead of Wendy.

Promotions are over, find another excuse. Her queerbaiting with Wendy because she's working on a solo and needs to please chinese fans makes her no different from Wendy who queerbaits for clout.

It's funny that you try to put the two on the same level when Wendy has fed this ship desperately over the last few years, it got to the point where Wendy's fans started going to Irene's fansign to ask for interactions, now at every fansign and even at the party birthdays they're there. I really hope that Irene takes money from these idiots because she has to go through this harassment because of Wendy.

She looks fine doing it unprovoked so is she really a victim?

If I had a stalker who followed me to my birthday party and thought I was dating a member of the group that I didn't even interact with outside of work, I would try to appear as calm as possible when meeting them and try not to irritate them.

da but this isn't about her appearing calm? This is about her deciding to make her birthday party which is a once a year opportunity for fans to see her, about wanda and her shit ass album? In what world one fan can dictate what an idol does especially with a decision that will upset her fandom?

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Let me get this straight, you claim Wendy needs promo and is desperate for it but she wasn't the one who mentioned they came or that Irene made the jam with her or posted anything with Irene? Wouldn't she have don that if that was right? It was all Irene's own doing.

Why would she talk about Irene in the middle of promoting her album? She didn't talk about Irene even when she went to see her in Rebecca, she only talks about it when it's to feed the ship, she has a pattern.
And I'm glad Irene is saying that she supported Wendy, the last time Seulgi had to come and defend them both.

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Let me get this straight, you claim Wendy needs promo and is desperate for it but she wasn't the one who mentioned they came or that Irene made the jam with her or posted anything with Irene? Wouldn't she have don that if that was right? It was all Irene's own doing.

Why would she talk about Irene in the middle of promoting her album? She didn't talk about Irene even when she went to see her in Rebecca, she only talks about it when it's to feed the ship, she has a pattern.
And I'm glad Irene is saying that she supported Wendy, the last time Seulgi had to come and defend them both.

Did you just read what you wrote? Because no way.. If Wendy wanted to feed shippers to buy the album she would have posted about Irene or mentioned these things herself? Some of you are so desperate to blame this on one and not the other and you're looking stupid doing it because you're not making sense. The truth is Irene is as to blame for this and i hope this isn't the start of a pattern because that's all she needs to lose more fans and making them angry after that renewal.

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Promotions are over, find another excuse. Her queerbaiting with Wendy because she's working on a solo and needs to please chinese fans makes her no different from Wendy who queerbaits for clout.

It's funny that you try to put the two on the same level when Wendy has fed this ship desperately over the last few years, it got to the point where Wendy's fans started going to Irene's fansign to ask for interactions, now at every fansign and even at the party birthdays they're there. I really hope that Irene takes money from these idiots because she has to go through this harassment because of Wendy.

She looks fine doing it unprovoked so is she really a victim?

If I had a stalker who followed me to my birthday party and thought I was dating a member of the group that I didn't even interact with outside of work, I would try to appear as calm as possible when meeting them and try not to irritate them.

da but this isn't about her appearing calm? This is about her deciding to make her birthday party which is a once a year opportunity for fans to see her, about wanda and her shit ass album? In what world one fan can dictate what an idol does especially with a decision that will upset her fandom?

and does she know that? She only deals with people who beg for interactions with Wendy and they're the same people, always following her.

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Promotions are over, find another excuse. Her queerbaiting with Wendy because she's working on a solo and needs to please chinese fans makes her no different from Wendy who queerbaits for clout.

It's funny that you try to put the two on the same level when Wendy has fed this ship desperately over the last few years, it got to the point where Wendy's fans started going to Irene's fansign to ask for interactions, now at every fansign and even at the party birthdays they're there. I really hope that Irene takes money from these idiots because she has to go through this harassment because of Wendy.

She looks fine doing it unprovoked so is she really a victim?

If I had a stalker who followed me to my birthday party and thought I was dating a member of the group that I didn't even interact with outside of work, I would try to appear as calm as possible when meeting them and try not to irritate them.

da but this isn't about her appearing calm? This is about her deciding to make her birthday party which is a once a year opportunity for fans to see her, about wanda and her shit ass album? In what world one fan can dictate what an idol does especially with a decision that will upset her fandom?

Da well SM can, just like how they’ve utilized all those other idols and mcs and journalists for this recent “im a good girl” pr move

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How difficult is it for you to understand that Wendy only cares about Irene when it's to feed the ship. Wendy is on a PR tour about how kind she is, how she sacrificed herself for the group, how she has no friends except her pilades instructor, all her album promotion is just about her and not another member. Did they forget the treatment she gave Irene after the scandal? the autographs without Irene's name, the omission of her name. She won't mention Irene in the promotion of her album when the promotion is based on her being the opposite of Irene or do you think the PR team didn't take that into consideration when putting together the campaign?

Her talking about Irene in fansing is another story

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How difficult is it for you to understand that Wendy only cares about Irene when it's to feed the ship. Wendy is on a PR tour about how kind she is, how she sacrificed herself for the group, how she has no friends except her pilades instructor, all her album promotion is just about her and not another member. Did they forget the treatment she gave Irene after the scandal? the autographs without Irene's name, the omission of her name. She won't mention Irene in the promotion of her album when the promotion is based on her being the opposite of Irene or do you think the PR team didn't take that into consideration when putting together the campaign?

Her talking about Irene in fansing is another story

How difficult is it to understand that this is on Irene? What does Wendy have to do with Irene feeding shippers about stories even Wendy who you claim uses her has never told? What does Wendy have to do with Irene's decision to make her party about her? What you said should make you question what Irene is doing and call her out.

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Why was Irene so nasty and bitter about Seulgi's solo, but now she's doing more than sm?

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Let me get this straight, you claim Wendy needs promo and is desperate for it but she wasn't the one who mentioned they came or that Irene made the jam with her or posted anything with Irene? Wouldn't she have don that if that was right? It was all Irene's own doing.

Why would she talk about Irene in the middle of promoting her album? She didn't talk about Irene even when she went to see her in Rebecca, she only talks about it when it's to feed the ship, she has a pattern.
And I'm glad Irene is saying that she supported Wendy, the last time Seulgi had to come and defend them both.

Did you just read what you wrote? Because no way.. If Wendy wanted to feed shippers to buy the album she would have posted about Irene or mentioned these things herself? Some of you are so desperate to blame this on one and not the other and you're looking stupid doing it because you're not making sense. The truth is Irene is as to blame for this and i hope this isn't the start of a pattern because that's all she needs to lose more fans and making them angry after that renewal.

wendy not mention she making jam with irene but irene said that to shipper.Now who want feed shipper?

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Let me get this straight, you claim Wendy needs promo and is desperate for it but she wasn't the one who mentioned they came or that Irene made the jam with her or posted anything with Irene? Wouldn't she have don that if that was right? It was all Irene's own doing.

Why would she talk about Irene in the middle of promoting her album? She didn't talk about Irene even when she went to see her in Rebecca, she only talks about it when it's to feed the ship, she has a pattern.
And I'm glad Irene is saying that she supported Wendy, the last time Seulgi had to come and defend them both.

Did you just read what you wrote? Because no way.. If Wendy wanted to feed shippers to buy the album she would have posted about Irene or mentioned these things herself? Some of you are so desperate to blame this on one and not the other and you're looking stupid doing it because you're not making sense. The truth is Irene is as to blame for this and i hope this isn't the start of a pattern because that's all she needs to lose more fans and making them angry after that renewal.

wendy not mention she making jam with irene but irene said that to shipper.Now who want feed shipper?

I'm glad she said it now we know that Irene participated in Wendy's PR campaign

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Let me get this straight, you claim Wendy needs promo and is desperate for it but she wasn't the one who mentioned they came or that Irene made the jam with her or posted anything with Irene? Wouldn't she have don that if that was right? It was all Irene's own doing.

Why would she talk about Irene in the middle of promoting her album? She didn't talk about Irene even when she went to see her in Rebecca, she only talks about it when it's to feed the ship, she has a pattern.
And I'm glad Irene is saying that she supported Wendy, the last time Seulgi had to come and defend them both.

Did you just read what you wrote? Because no way.. If Wendy wanted to feed shippers to buy the album she would have posted about Irene or mentioned these things herself? Some of you are so desperate to blame this on one and not the other and you're looking stupid doing it because you're not making sense. The truth is Irene is as to blame for this and i hope this isn't the start of a pattern because that's all she needs to lose more fans and making them angry after that renewal.

wendy not mention she making jam with irene but irene said that to shipper.Now who want feed shipper?

I'm glad she said it now we know that Irene participated in Wendy's PR campaign

Wendy also said she didn't make jam with Irene recently. Irene probably didn't even know wtf the fan was talking about and thought about some other time.

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Let me get this straight, you claim Wendy needs promo and is desperate for it but she wasn't the one who mentioned they came or that Irene made the jam with her or posted anything with Irene? Wouldn't she have don that if that was right? It was all Irene's own doing.

Why would she talk about Irene in the middle of promoting her album? She didn't talk about Irene even when she went to see her in Rebecca, she only talks about it when it's to feed the ship, she has a pattern.
And I'm glad Irene is saying that she supported Wendy, the last time Seulgi had to come and defend them both.

Did you just read what you wrote? Because no way.. If Wendy wanted to feed shippers to buy the album she would have posted about Irene or mentioned these things herself? Some of you are so desperate to blame this on one and not the other and you're looking stupid doing it because you're not making sense. The truth is Irene is as to blame for this and i hope this isn't the start of a pattern because that's all she needs to lose more fans and making them angry after that renewal.

wendy not mention she making jam with irene but irene said that to shipper.Now who want feed shipper?

Irene, she's on a roll with feeding wr shippers lately.

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She needs help. It's pretty obvious that she's struggling, and if she gets to the point of no return, she's going to unfortunately become a growing statistic within the kpop industry. I doubt this has anything to do with resentment. She's destroying her body and voice, self-sabotaged her own comeback with an obviously bad music style choice for her type of singing, and she's claiming she has no friends which points to her seemingly isolating herself from others. If I saw any of my friends going through this, I wouldn't jump to "Oh she's resentful", my mind would go straight to "she's struggling" and most likely mentally. Especially in the kpop world where this isn't uncommon.

call me mean or even evil but i pray for the day for her downfall. sorry to say this after years of her fans throwing shit to my fav, one moment this happen, im gonna celebrate.

People like you are the absolute worst. Grow the hell up. Do you see your reason for saying this? It's so petty and miniscule that you'll "pray for her downfall". Go outside anon, please.

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Why would she talk about Irene in the middle of promoting her album? She didn't talk about Irene even when she went to see her in Rebecca, she only talks about it when it's to feed the ship, she has a pattern.
And I'm glad Irene is saying that she supported Wendy, the last time Seulgi had to come and defend them both.

Did you just read what you wrote? Because no way.. If Wendy wanted to feed shippers to buy the album she would have posted about Irene or mentioned these things herself? Some of you are so desperate to blame this on one and not the other and you're looking stupid doing it because you're not making sense. The truth is Irene is as to blame for this and i hope this isn't the start of a pattern because that's all she needs to lose more fans and making them angry after that renewal.

wendy not mention she making jam with irene but irene said that to shipper.Now who want feed shipper?

I'm glad she said it now we know that Irene participated in Wendy's PR campaign

Wendy also said she didn't make jam with Irene recently. Irene probably didn't even know wtf the fan was talking about and thought about some other time.

fans ask her if she taste wendy jam or not bcs wendy give all stafd her jam.But why irene need feed shipper tell them she making jam with wendy and take a video.Irene can just easily yes i taste it done.Irene lately love feed shipper.For whole promotion wendy not mention irene at all but why irene?Its good now wendy build a solo fandom but here irene still stuck shipper fandom if not wenrene is seulrene is her fandom no solo fandom

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Didn't anyone say anything to her about WN's performance? Does anyone praise her?
It's fucking hard to be a fan of Irene because we can't have anything, it's all about the ship.

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Did you just read what you wrote? Because no way.. If Wendy wanted to feed shippers to buy the album she would have posted about Irene or mentioned these things herself? Some of you are so desperate to blame this on one and not the other and you're looking stupid doing it because you're not making sense. The truth is Irene is as to blame for this and i hope this isn't the start of a pattern because that's all she needs to lose more fans and making them angry after that renewal.

wendy not mention she making jam with irene but irene said that to shipper.Now who want feed shipper?

I'm glad she said it now we know that Irene participated in Wendy's PR campaign

Wendy also said she didn't make jam with Irene recently. Irene probably didn't even know wtf the fan was talking about and thought about some other time.

fans ask her if she taste wendy jam or not bcs wendy give all stafd her jam.But why irene need feed shipper tell them she making jam with wendy and take a video.Irene can just easily yes i taste it done.Irene lately love feed shipper.For whole promotion wendy not mention irene at all but why irene?Its good now wendy build a solo fandom but here irene still stuck shipper fandom if not wenrene is seulrene is her fandom no solo fandom

stupid takes. It's in your fav's interest that Irene hasn’t shunned her yet. Baetokkis respect Irene and know she loves the group, that's why they tolerate a lot. But the day Irene gives out even a tiny hint that she's done with Wendy, I'll see how much Wendy's solo fandom is gonna help. You already got a highlight with how much her cb tanked

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wendy not mention she making jam with irene but irene said that to shipper.Now who want feed shipper?

I'm glad she said it now we know that Irene participated in Wendy's PR campaign

Wendy also said she didn't make jam with Irene recently. Irene probably didn't even know wtf the fan was talking about and thought about some other time.

fans ask her if she taste wendy jam or not bcs wendy give all stafd her jam.But why irene need feed shipper tell them she making jam with wendy and take a video.Irene can just easily yes i taste it done.Irene lately love feed shipper.For whole promotion wendy not mention irene at all but why irene?Its good now wendy build a solo fandom but here irene still stuck shipper fandom if not wenrene is seulrene is her fandom no solo fandom

stupid takes. It's in your fav's interest that Irene hasn’t shunned her yet. Baetokkis respect Irene and know she loves the group, that's why they tolerate a lot. But the day Irene gives out even a tiny hint that she's done with Wendy, I'll see how much Wendy's solo fandom is gonna help. You already got a highlight with how much her cb tanked

Are you sure her cb tanked?And i know you saw how sm roll her teaser and until now sm not ship my album.There is no pob after a week open preorder.Her fans got 4 million for voting only she have dedicated solo fanbase and if sm ship her album early one day wendy can got win for sure.And forgot to tell you wendy comeback on tuesday so her tracking number 1 day late.Let discuss how irene white night still tanked why you not stream that song?

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I'm glad she said it now we know that Irene participated in Wendy's PR campaign

Wendy also said she didn't make jam with Irene recently. Irene probably didn't even know wtf the fan was talking about and thought about some other time.

fans ask her if she taste wendy jam or not bcs wendy give all stafd her jam.But why irene need feed shipper tell them she making jam with wendy and take a video.Irene can just easily yes i taste it done.Irene lately love feed shipper.For whole promotion wendy not mention irene at all but why irene?Its good now wendy build a solo fandom but here irene still stuck shipper fandom if not wenrene is seulrene is her fandom no solo fandom

stupid takes. It's in your fav's interest that Irene hasn’t shunned her yet. Baetokkis respect Irene and know she loves the group, that's why they tolerate a lot. But the day Irene gives out even a tiny hint that she's done with Wendy, I'll see how much Wendy's solo fandom is gonna help. You already got a highlight with how much her cb tanked

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I'm glad she said it now we know that Irene participated in Wendy's PR campaign

Wendy also said she didn't make jam with Irene recently. Irene probably didn't even know wtf the fan was talking about and thought about some other time.

fans ask her if she taste wendy jam or not bcs wendy give all stafd her jam.But why irene need feed shipper tell them she making jam with wendy and take a video.Irene can just easily yes i taste it done.Irene lately love feed shipper.For whole promotion wendy not mention irene at all but why irene?Its good now wendy build a solo fandom but here irene still stuck shipper fandom if not wenrene is seulrene is her fandom no solo fandom

stupid takes. It's in your fav's interest that Irene hasn’t shunned her yet. Baetokkis respect Irene and know she loves the group, that's why they tolerate a lot. But the day Irene gives out even a tiny hint that she's done with Wendy, I'll see how much Wendy's solo fandom is gonna help. You already got a highlight with how much her cb tanked

Are you sure her cb tanked?And i know you saw how sm roll her teaser and until now sm not ship my album.There is no pob after a week open preorder.Her fans got 4 million for voting only she have dedicated solo fanbase and if sm ship her album early one day wendy can got win for sure.And forgot to tell you wendy comeback on tuesday so her tracking number 1 day late.Let discuss how irene white night still tanked why you not stream that song?

Yes her cb tanked. You can pull out a 1000 different excuses but it still tanked