Aespa

[Guest]

Jesus Christ some of you are idiots. Have you ever been flirted with before? What do you think flirting is?it's not all "I want to fuck you" type shit. Some of the times it's more lighthearted. And what are you going to say about the time she literally said she's flirting with winter when she touches her in drama performances, you casually left that out. FANSERVICE. Thank you next.

SA
And you're missing the point moron. It's not that she's playfully touching her, it's the fact that she said she was flirting with her. That sentence alone is fanservice jeeessssusssssss

My bad I didn't read the "her saying she's flirting" part. But I disagree except for that time she said this, Winrina is a gaybait ship that fanservice flirts. They're light, pre school tier of flirting maybe.

....it's like talking to a wall...I said their flirting is fanservice

DA

It's honestly w/e. Fanservice has been around since the beginning of time and I can enjoy SM's (girl groups') fanservice since it's all about the good vibes/closeness between members at the end of the day. It's not the outright cringe, raunchy, and gay4pay fanservice that a lot of guy groups or guy/girl groups in other countries do.

WinRina may be straight but enjoy skinship+throwing flirty lines at each other like normal friends do irl (yes, friends can jokingly flirt with each other). Or they might be bi and have been attracted to each other at one point during the long ass time they've known each other and thus we get glimpses of tension here and there It's fine to believe in whichever scenario while acknowledging that some of the things we get to see from them are fanservice because these interactions all fall under bonding and everyone likes seeing that. And I don't think fanservice is problematic when members are actually close with each other. I think certain fans *make* it a problem when it's clear that they only like a certain idol because they want them to be 100% gay.

Like there's the group's music, the visuals, the performances, variety skills, and even just basic personality, but certain people only want to see, breathe, hear, and think through their hormones

WinRina isn't full-on gaybait to me because I think that term and the outrage that comes with it is cringe/exaggerated most of the time, and it's possible that they might just like being super touchy and interact with each other in similar degrees off-camera. If people have the understanding that it's a part of the culture and everything has a level of some fanservice if it's not kept private, then it shouldn't bother them so much. Even real couples, both famous and non-famous, do "fanservice" for the people that watch them.

I'd say gaybaiting in anime/manga (not subtext because there's a lot of depth there) is way more "real" but that's a different topic.

If you read my first post I said that winrina seems be touchy touchy kind of friends but some of it had to be fanservice because it was really over the top sometimes. You basically just said the same in an essay form

[Guest]

So funny how it's always the straightest K pop girls you try and claim. Even Jisoo and Irene who said homophobic shit. Karina never did anything to indicate she liked girls at all.

[Guest]

SA
And you're missing the point moron. It's not that she's playfully touching her, it's the fact that she said she was flirting with her. That sentence alone is fanservice jeeessssusssssss

My bad I didn't read the "her saying she's flirting" part. But I disagree except for that time she said this, Winrina is a gaybait ship that fanservice flirts. They're light, pre school tier of flirting maybe.

....it's like talking to a wall...I said their flirting is fanservice

DA

It's honestly w/e. Fanservice has been around since the beginning of time and I can enjoy SM's (girl groups') fanservice since it's all about the good vibes/closeness between members at the end of the day. It's not the outright cringe, raunchy, and gay4pay fanservice that a lot of guy groups or guy/girl groups in other countries do.

WinRina may be straight but enjoy skinship+throwing flirty lines at each other like normal friends do irl (yes, friends can jokingly flirt with each other). Or they might be bi and have been attracted to each other at one point during the long ass time they've known each other and thus we get glimpses of tension here and there It's fine to believe in whichever scenario while acknowledging that some of the things we get to see from them are fanservice because these interactions all fall under bonding and everyone likes seeing that. And I don't think fanservice is problematic when members are actually close with each other. I think certain fans *make* it a problem when it's clear that they only like a certain idol because they want them to be 100% gay.

Like there's the group's music, the visuals, the performances, variety skills, and even just basic personality, but certain people only want to see, breathe, hear, and think through their hormones

WinRina isn't full-on gaybait to me because I think that term and the outrage that comes with it is cringe/exaggerated most of the time, and it's possible that they might just like being super touchy and interact with each other in similar degrees off-camera. If people have the understanding that it's a part of the culture and everything has a level of some fanservice if it's not kept private, then it shouldn't bother them so much. Even real couples, both famous and non-famous, do "fanservice" for the people that watch them.

I'd say gaybaiting in anime/manga (not subtext because there's a lot of depth there) is way more "real" but that's a different topic.

If you read my first post I said that winrina seems be touchy touchy kind of friends but some of it had to be fanservice because it was really over the top sometimes. You basically just said the same in an essay form

No you didn't fucking say that, you said Winrina is a FANSERVICE SHIP that FANSERVICE FLIRTS and your arguments are that karina doing the most cute and light shit to winter has to be to get fans attention (fanservice). All the interactions they have to you is just for the fans, karina calling winter cute and touching her hand on stage is just to service fans. Their entire friendship is borderline fan service to you and used as gaybait even if such interactions are observed between other members too.
You're ridiculous, insulting and pretentious while having ridiculous opinions.

[Guest]

So funny how it's always the straightest K pop girls you try and claim. Even Jisoo and Irene who said homophobic shit. Karina never did anything to indicate she liked girls at all.

Karina did plenty of stuff to indicate she liked girls and did these before even debuting so just fuck off troll, nobody gives a damn about your made up shit on irene and jisoo etc

[Guest]

SA
And you're missing the point moron. It's not that she's playfully touching her, it's the fact that she said she was flirting with her. That sentence alone is fanservice jeeessssusssssss

My bad I didn't read the "her saying she's flirting" part. But I disagree except for that time she said this, Winrina is a gaybait ship that fanservice flirts. They're light, pre school tier of flirting maybe.

....it's like talking to a wall...I said their flirting is fanservice

DA

It's honestly w/e. Fanservice has been around since the beginning of time and I can enjoy SM's (girl groups') fanservice since it's all about the good vibes/closeness between members at the end of the day. It's not the outright cringe, raunchy, and gay4pay fanservice that a lot of guy groups or guy/girl groups in other countries do.

WinRina may be straight but enjoy skinship+throwing flirty lines at each other like normal friends do irl (yes, friends can jokingly flirt with each other). Or they might be bi and have been attracted to each other at one point during the long ass time they've known each other and thus we get glimpses of tension here and there It's fine to believe in whichever scenario while acknowledging that some of the things we get to see from them are fanservice because these interactions all fall under bonding and everyone likes seeing that. And I don't think fanservice is problematic when members are actually close with each other. I think certain fans *make* it a problem when it's clear that they only like a certain idol because they want them to be 100% gay.

Like there's the group's music, the visuals, the performances, variety skills, and even just basic personality, but certain people only want to see, breathe, hear, and think through their hormones

WinRina isn't full-on gaybait to me because I think that term and the outrage that comes with it is cringe/exaggerated most of the time, and it's possible that they might just like being super touchy and interact with each other in similar degrees off-camera. If people have the understanding that it's a part of the culture and everything has a level of some fanservice if it's not kept private, then it shouldn't bother them so much. Even real couples, both famous and non-famous, do "fanservice" for the people that watch them.

I'd say gaybaiting in anime/manga (not subtext because there's a lot of depth there) is way more "real" but that's a different topic.

If you read my first post I said that winrina seems be touchy touchy kind of friends but some of it had to be fanservice because it was really over the top sometimes. You basically just said the same in an essay form

I was mostly adding on my take/thoughts on the ship because someone mentioned "gaybait" and because there's 1 or 2 trolls that are always going "all your pretty K-pop idols are straight and you're all delusional trololol" whenever something like this happens. WinRina could be bi at best but nothing's wrong with being really touchy good friends either.

[Guest]

My bad I didn't read the "her saying she's flirting" part. But I disagree except for that time she said this, Winrina is a gaybait ship that fanservice flirts. They're light, pre school tier of flirting maybe.

....it's like talking to a wall...I said their flirting is fanservice

DA

It's honestly w/e. Fanservice has been around since the beginning of time and I can enjoy SM's (girl groups') fanservice since it's all about the good vibes/closeness between members at the end of the day. It's not the outright cringe, raunchy, and gay4pay fanservice that a lot of guy groups or guy/girl groups in other countries do.

WinRina may be straight but enjoy skinship+throwing flirty lines at each other like normal friends do irl (yes, friends can jokingly flirt with each other). Or they might be bi and have been attracted to each other at one point during the long ass time they've known each other and thus we get glimpses of tension here and there It's fine to believe in whichever scenario while acknowledging that some of the things we get to see from them are fanservice because these interactions all fall under bonding and everyone likes seeing that. And I don't think fanservice is problematic when members are actually close with each other. I think certain fans *make* it a problem when it's clear that they only like a certain idol because they want them to be 100% gay.

Like there's the group's music, the visuals, the performances, variety skills, and even just basic personality, but certain people only want to see, breathe, hear, and think through their hormones

WinRina isn't full-on gaybait to me because I think that term and the outrage that comes with it is cringe/exaggerated most of the time, and it's possible that they might just like being super touchy and interact with each other in similar degrees off-camera. If people have the understanding that it's a part of the culture and everything has a level of some fanservice if it's not kept private, then it shouldn't bother them so much. Even real couples, both famous and non-famous, do "fanservice" for the people that watch them.

I'd say gaybaiting in anime/manga (not subtext because there's a lot of depth there) is way more "real" but that's a different topic.

If you read my first post I said that winrina seems be touchy touchy kind of friends but some of it had to be fanservice because it was really over the top sometimes. You basically just said the same in an essay form

I was mostly adding on my take/thoughts on the ship because someone mentioned "gaybait" and because there's 1 or 2 trolls that are always going "all your pretty K-pop idols are straight and you're all delusional trololol" whenever something like this happens. WinRina could be bi at best but nothing's wrong with being really touchy good friends either.

Ah got you

[Guest]

My bad I didn't read the "her saying she's flirting" part. But I disagree except for that time she said this, Winrina is a gaybait ship that fanservice flirts. They're light, pre school tier of flirting maybe.

....it's like talking to a wall...I said their flirting is fanservice

DA

It's honestly w/e. Fanservice has been around since the beginning of time and I can enjoy SM's (girl groups') fanservice since it's all about the good vibes/closeness between members at the end of the day. It's not the outright cringe, raunchy, and gay4pay fanservice that a lot of guy groups or guy/girl groups in other countries do.

WinRina may be straight but enjoy skinship+throwing flirty lines at each other like normal friends do irl (yes, friends can jokingly flirt with each other). Or they might be bi and have been attracted to each other at one point during the long ass time they've known each other and thus we get glimpses of tension here and there It's fine to believe in whichever scenario while acknowledging that some of the things we get to see from them are fanservice because these interactions all fall under bonding and everyone likes seeing that. And I don't think fanservice is problematic when members are actually close with each other. I think certain fans *make* it a problem when it's clear that they only like a certain idol because they want them to be 100% gay.

Like there's the group's music, the visuals, the performances, variety skills, and even just basic personality, but certain people only want to see, breathe, hear, and think through their hormones

WinRina isn't full-on gaybait to me because I think that term and the outrage that comes with it is cringe/exaggerated most of the time, and it's possible that they might just like being super touchy and interact with each other in similar degrees off-camera. If people have the understanding that it's a part of the culture and everything has a level of some fanservice if it's not kept private, then it shouldn't bother them so much. Even real couples, both famous and non-famous, do "fanservice" for the people that watch them.

I'd say gaybaiting in anime/manga (not subtext because there's a lot of depth there) is way more "real" but that's a different topic.

If you read my first post I said that winrina seems be touchy touchy kind of friends but some of it had to be fanservice because it was really over the top sometimes. You basically just said the same in an essay form

No you didn't fucking say that, you said Winrina is a FANSERVICE SHIP that FANSERVICE FLIRTS and your arguments are that karina doing the most cute and light shit to winter has to be to get fans attention (fanservice). All the interactions they have to you is just for the fans, karina calling winter cute and touching her hand on stage is just to service fans. Their entire friendship is borderline fan service to you and used as gaybait even if such interactions are observed between other members too.
You're ridiculous, insulting and pretentious while having ridiculous opinions.

Don't get mad at me because you're stupid and can't read. This was my first post idiot

Same. I also want to see how she acts around winter, I get that they are probably naturally just touchy friends but some of it had to be fanservice, they were literally on eachother 24/7... And Karina was always flirting with her

[Guest]

....it's like talking to a wall...I said their flirting is fanservice

DA

It's honestly w/e. Fanservice has been around since the beginning of time and I can enjoy SM's (girl groups') fanservice since it's all about the good vibes/closeness between members at the end of the day. It's not the outright cringe, raunchy, and gay4pay fanservice that a lot of guy groups or guy/girl groups in other countries do.

WinRina may be straight but enjoy skinship+throwing flirty lines at each other like normal friends do irl (yes, friends can jokingly flirt with each other). Or they might be bi and have been attracted to each other at one point during the long ass time they've known each other and thus we get glimpses of tension here and there It's fine to believe in whichever scenario while acknowledging that some of the things we get to see from them are fanservice because these interactions all fall under bonding and everyone likes seeing that. And I don't think fanservice is problematic when members are actually close with each other. I think certain fans *make* it a problem when it's clear that they only like a certain idol because they want them to be 100% gay.

Like there's the group's music, the visuals, the performances, variety skills, and even just basic personality, but certain people only want to see, breathe, hear, and think through their hormones

WinRina isn't full-on gaybait to me because I think that term and the outrage that comes with it is cringe/exaggerated most of the time, and it's possible that they might just like being super touchy and interact with each other in similar degrees off-camera. If people have the understanding that it's a part of the culture and everything has a level of some fanservice if it's not kept private, then it shouldn't bother them so much. Even real couples, both famous and non-famous, do "fanservice" for the people that watch them.

I'd say gaybaiting in anime/manga (not subtext because there's a lot of depth there) is way more "real" but that's a different topic.

If you read my first post I said that winrina seems be touchy touchy kind of friends but some of it had to be fanservice because it was really over the top sometimes. You basically just said the same in an essay form

No you didn't fucking say that, you said Winrina is a FANSERVICE SHIP that FANSERVICE FLIRTS and your arguments are that karina doing the most cute and light shit to winter has to be to get fans attention (fanservice). All the interactions they have to you is just for the fans, karina calling winter cute and touching her hand on stage is just to service fans. Their entire friendship is borderline fan service to you and used as gaybait even if such interactions are observed between other members too.
You're ridiculous, insulting and pretentious while having ridiculous opinions.

Don't get mad at me because you're stupid and can't read. This was my first post idiot

Same. I also want to see how she acts around winter, I get that they are probably naturally just touchy friends but some of it had to be fanservice, they were literally on eachother 24/7... And Karina was always flirting with her

"karina always flirting with her" I can read very well, nobody cares about the bold part if it contracticts itself one sentence after. And it's that sentence that made me react, also

Yeah no..sorry Karina was clearly flirting, fanservice flirting. Saying how the seat she'll take when in a classroom will be next to winter. Saying winter is cute whenever she breathes, her literally saying she's flirting with winter when she playfully touches her during drama performances. It might not be REAL flirting but it was definitely fan service flirting so I don't know what to tell you, you must be dense to think Karina wasn't flirting with her

Yeah pretty dense and it's funny how they're all flirting between each other, all the members gaybaiting and fanserving while being the most boring about it in kpop (their so called fan service limiting itself to hugs, hand touching and saying another member is cute).... But yeah

[Guest]

DA

It's honestly w/e. Fanservice has been around since the beginning of time and I can enjoy SM's (girl groups') fanservice since it's all about the good vibes/closeness between members at the end of the day. It's not the outright cringe, raunchy, and gay4pay fanservice that a lot of guy groups or guy/girl groups in other countries do.

WinRina may be straight but enjoy skinship+throwing flirty lines at each other like normal friends do irl (yes, friends can jokingly flirt with each other). Or they might be bi and have been attracted to each other at one point during the long ass time they've known each other and thus we get glimpses of tension here and there It's fine to believe in whichever scenario while acknowledging that some of the things we get to see from them are fanservice because these interactions all fall under bonding and everyone likes seeing that. And I don't think fanservice is problematic when members are actually close with each other. I think certain fans *make* it a problem when it's clear that they only like a certain idol because they want them to be 100% gay.

Like there's the group's music, the visuals, the performances, variety skills, and even just basic personality, but certain people only want to see, breathe, hear, and think through their hormones

WinRina isn't full-on gaybait to me because I think that term and the outrage that comes with it is cringe/exaggerated most of the time, and it's possible that they might just like being super touchy and interact with each other in similar degrees off-camera. If people have the understanding that it's a part of the culture and everything has a level of some fanservice if it's not kept private, then it shouldn't bother them so much. Even real couples, both famous and non-famous, do "fanservice" for the people that watch them.

I'd say gaybaiting in anime/manga (not subtext because there's a lot of depth there) is way more "real" but that's a different topic.

If you read my first post I said that winrina seems be touchy touchy kind of friends but some of it had to be fanservice because it was really over the top sometimes. You basically just said the same in an essay form

No you didn't fucking say that, you said Winrina is a FANSERVICE SHIP that FANSERVICE FLIRTS and your arguments are that karina doing the most cute and light shit to winter has to be to get fans attention (fanservice). All the interactions they have to you is just for the fans, karina calling winter cute and touching her hand on stage is just to service fans. Their entire friendship is borderline fan service to you and used as gaybait even if such interactions are observed between other members too.
You're ridiculous, insulting and pretentious while having ridiculous opinions.

Don't get mad at me because you're stupid and can't read. This was my first post idiot

Same. I also want to see how she acts around winter, I get that they are probably naturally just touchy friends but some of it had to be fanservice, they were literally on eachother 24/7... And Karina was always flirting with her

"karina always flirting with her" I can read very well, nobody cares about the bold part if it contracticts itself one sentence after. And it's that sentence that made me react, also

Yeah no..sorry Karina was clearly flirting, fanservice flirting. Saying how the seat she'll take when in a classroom will be next to winter. Saying winter is cute whenever she breathes, her literally saying she's flirting with winter when she playfully touches her during drama performances. It might not be REAL flirting but it was definitely fan service flirting so I don't know what to tell you, you must be dense to think Karina wasn't flirting with her

Yeah pretty dense and it's funny how they're all flirting between each other, all the members gaybaiting and fanserving while being the most boring about it in kpop (their so called fan service limiting itself to hugs, hand touching and saying another member is cute).... But yeah

If you read it properly I said their touchiness is for the most part natural, but Karina's flirting is fanservice. There's no need to flirt with your friend infront of camera while you fully well know you're being shipped with her, it's definitely fanservice whether or not she does it off cam too and it's normal for them, she knows the fans will go crazy when she flirts with winter so either way it's fanservice since she's doing it to hype the fans up.

[Guest]

If you read my first post I said that winrina seems be touchy touchy kind of friends but some of it had to be fanservice because it was really over the top sometimes. You basically just said the same in an essay form

No you didn't fucking say that, you said Winrina is a FANSERVICE SHIP that FANSERVICE FLIRTS and your arguments are that karina doing the most cute and light shit to winter has to be to get fans attention (fanservice). All the interactions they have to you is just for the fans, karina calling winter cute and touching her hand on stage is just to service fans. Their entire friendship is borderline fan service to you and used as gaybait even if such interactions are observed between other members too.
You're ridiculous, insulting and pretentious while having ridiculous opinions.

Don't get mad at me because you're stupid and can't read. This was my first post idiot

Same. I also want to see how she acts around winter, I get that they are probably naturally just touchy friends but some of it had to be fanservice, they were literally on eachother 24/7... And Karina was always flirting with her

"karina always flirting with her" I can read very well, nobody cares about the bold part if it contracticts itself one sentence after. And it's that sentence that made me react, also

Yeah no..sorry Karina was clearly flirting, fanservice flirting. Saying how the seat she'll take when in a classroom will be next to winter. Saying winter is cute whenever she breathes, her literally saying she's flirting with winter when she playfully touches her during drama performances. It might not be REAL flirting but it was definitely fan service flirting so I don't know what to tell you, you must be dense to think Karina wasn't flirting with her

Yeah pretty dense and it's funny how they're all flirting between each other, all the members gaybaiting and fanserving while being the most boring about it in kpop (their so called fan service limiting itself to hugs, hand touching and saying another member is cute).... But yeah

If you read it properly I said their touchiness is for the most part natural, but Karina's flirting is fanservice. There's no need to flirt with your friend infront of camera while you fully well know you're being shipped with her, it's definitely fanservice whether or not she does it off cam too and it's normal for them, she knows the fans will go crazy when she flirts with winter so either way it's fanservice since she's doing it to hype the fans up.

SA
I don't know how old you are but your reading comprehension is really not good I'm not even trying to be rude or insulting this time, I'm serious. If you're over the age of 18 please you need to start reading more and understanding what your reading or else you're going to have serious problems in the future if you can't understand what people are saying

[Guest]

If you read my first post I said that winrina seems be touchy touchy kind of friends but some of it had to be fanservice because it was really over the top sometimes. You basically just said the same in an essay form

No you didn't fucking say that, you said Winrina is a FANSERVICE SHIP that FANSERVICE FLIRTS and your arguments are that karina doing the most cute and light shit to winter has to be to get fans attention (fanservice). All the interactions they have to you is just for the fans, karina calling winter cute and touching her hand on stage is just to service fans. Their entire friendship is borderline fan service to you and used as gaybait even if such interactions are observed between other members too.
You're ridiculous, insulting and pretentious while having ridiculous opinions.

Don't get mad at me because you're stupid and can't read. This was my first post idiot

Same. I also want to see how she acts around winter, I get that they are probably naturally just touchy friends but some of it had to be fanservice, they were literally on eachother 24/7... And Karina was always flirting with her

"karina always flirting with her" I can read very well, nobody cares about the bold part if it contracticts itself one sentence after. And it's that sentence that made me react, also

Yeah no..sorry Karina was clearly flirting, fanservice flirting. Saying how the seat she'll take when in a classroom will be next to winter. Saying winter is cute whenever she breathes, her literally saying she's flirting with winter when she playfully touches her during drama performances. It might not be REAL flirting but it was definitely fan service flirting so I don't know what to tell you, you must be dense to think Karina wasn't flirting with her

Yeah pretty dense and it's funny how they're all flirting between each other, all the members gaybaiting and fanserving while being the most boring about it in kpop (their so called fan service limiting itself to hugs, hand touching and saying another member is cute).... But yeah

If you read it properly I said their touchiness is for the most part natural, but Karina's flirting is fanservice. There's no need to flirt with your friend infront of camera while you fully well know you're being shipped with her, it's definitely fanservice whether or not she does it off cam too and it's normal for them, she knows the fans will go crazy when she flirts with winter so either way it's fanservice since she's doing it to hype the fans up.

My opinion is karina is being herself and does the same with the other members, she'd be silly to stop because you go crazy everytime she peeks at winter. She's done that since always, it's her personality, it's not fanservice, it's just her loving women and babying them or whatever.

[Guest]

No you didn't fucking say that, you said Winrina is a FANSERVICE SHIP that FANSERVICE FLIRTS and your arguments are that karina doing the most cute and light shit to winter has to be to get fans attention (fanservice). All the interactions they have to you is just for the fans, karina calling winter cute and touching her hand on stage is just to service fans. Their entire friendship is borderline fan service to you and used as gaybait even if such interactions are observed between other members too.
You're ridiculous, insulting and pretentious while having ridiculous opinions.

Don't get mad at me because you're stupid and can't read. This was my first post idiot

Same. I also want to see how she acts around winter, I get that they are probably naturally just touchy friends but some of it had to be fanservice, they were literally on eachother 24/7... And Karina was always flirting with her

"karina always flirting with her" I can read very well, nobody cares about the bold part if it contracticts itself one sentence after. And it's that sentence that made me react, also

Yeah no..sorry Karina was clearly flirting, fanservice flirting. Saying how the seat she'll take when in a classroom will be next to winter. Saying winter is cute whenever she breathes, her literally saying she's flirting with winter when she playfully touches her during drama performances. It might not be REAL flirting but it was definitely fan service flirting so I don't know what to tell you, you must be dense to think Karina wasn't flirting with her

Yeah pretty dense and it's funny how they're all flirting between each other, all the members gaybaiting and fanserving while being the most boring about it in kpop (their so called fan service limiting itself to hugs, hand touching and saying another member is cute).... But yeah

If you read it properly I said their touchiness is for the most part natural, but Karina's flirting is fanservice. There's no need to flirt with your friend infront of camera while you fully well know you're being shipped with her, it's definitely fanservice whether or not she does it off cam too and it's normal for them, she knows the fans will go crazy when she flirts with winter so either way it's fanservice since she's doing it to hype the fans up.

My opinion is karina is being herself and does the same with the other members, she'd be silly to stop because you go crazy everytime she peeks at winter. She's done that since always, it's her personality, it's not fanservice, it's just her loving women and babying them or whatever.

Karina is extremely touchy with winter, way more than with the other members. I agree she's touchy will all of them, but with winter it's next level. If you don't agree then that's fine, I don't care to convince you but I'm sure there's a lot of people that would agree with me

[Guest]

SA
I don't know how old you are but your reading comprehension is really not good I'm not even trying to be rude or insulting this time, I'm serious. If you're over the age of 18 please you need to start reading more and understanding what your reading or else you're going to have serious problems in the future if you can't understand what people are saying

You're not smart you're dumb therefore just stfu
You get over hyped over the slightest winrina interaction to the point you ignore when karina interacts the same with other members, it's on you not karina. Most of the people shipping such a underwhelming ship are middle/high schoolers, the rest find it cute at most or boring. So avoid projecting your low age on others when "totally not trying to be rude"... schizo says something and contradicts herself in the same post but still has the audacity to call others dumb.
I'm done with this convo, you're free to talk shit.

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SA
I don't know how old you are but your reading comprehension is really not good I'm not even trying to be rude or insulting this time, I'm serious. If you're over the age of 18 please you need to start reading more and understanding what your reading or else you're going to have serious problems in the future if you can't understand what people are saying

You're not smart you're dumb therefore just stfu
You get over hyped over the slightest winrina interaction to the point you ignore when karina interacts the same with other members, it's on you not karina. Most of the people shipping such a underwhelming ship are middle/high schoolers, the rest find it cute at most or boring. So avoid projecting your low age on others when "totally not trying to be rude"... schizo says something and contradicts herself in the same post but still has the audacity to call others dumb.
I'm done with this convo, you're free to talk shit.

You're done with this convo because you can't argue anymore is why you're done you're not fooling anyone. Ah yes, the good old insult "you're dumb therefore stfu" LMAO what are you, 12? Learn to accept self criticism and learn from it.

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^ Take your own advice

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^ Take your own advice

...and what critism did I receive other than "you're dumb therefore stfu"...you know what fair enough, I will stfu I'm done arguing with people who can't even read

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^ Take your own advice

...and what critism did I receive other than "you're dumb therefore stfu"...you know what fair enough, I will stfu I'm done arguing with people who can't even read

Criticism is stop insulting and acting superior when you're not smarter than your interlocutor on top of being schizophrenic. But i'm glad you finally stfu.

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Aespa's Synk tour movie is coming to global theaters (April 24/27)! Anyone else super duper hyped? I would love to see it in a 4DX venue but I don't think there are any nearby.

Karina's Menagerie perf on the big screen? Winter playing the guitar? I'm so excited!

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Bro I really thought winrina would calm down the fanservice....somehow it seems even more now?

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Bro I really thought winrina would calm down the fanservice....somehow it seems even more now?

Why would they? Winrina is not the gaybaiting ship you think they are.

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Bro I really thought winrina would calm down the fanservice....somehow it seems even more now?

What fanservice have they done since? Cause there was an anon on the kent thread who reposted one Instagram post and called it disgusting gaybaiting when she said "jagiya" to winter, but i recall many idols calling their friends jagiya as a joke so is that "the even more" fanservice they do?

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Wouldn't call myself an Aespa stan but I think Karina is so kind hearted, I like her a lot. I just can tell her heart is gentle

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Bro I really thought winrina would calm down the fanservice....somehow it seems even more now?

What fanservice have they done since? Cause there was an anon on the kent thread who reposted one Instagram post and called it disgusting gaybaiting when she said "jagiya" to winter, but i recall many idols calling their friends jagiya as a joke so is that "the even more" fanservice they do?

I know it's not like huge fanservice but I thought they would distance themselves a little bit only so that the fans could calm down a bit. All the unnecessary touching, tiktoks, lovestgram and being spotted out together without the other members. Again it's not huge fanservice or anything but I did think they would be more like their first public sighting at the airport for a while longer.

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So on top of being aware of her shirt she mentioned it lol... I mean it's hard to not think she's not «baiting» again

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So on top of being aware of her shirt she mentioned it lol... I mean it's hard to not think she's not «baiting» again

les/bi women are already coping and saying her dating scandal was actually just pr, im not gonna get pissed at her if she still continues to bait.

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So on top of being aware of her shirt she mentioned it lol... I mean it's hard to not think she's not «baiting» again

les/bi women are already coping and saying her dating scandal was actually just pr, im not gonna get pissed at her if she still continues to bait.

That cope has been a thing since the day the scandal dropped. Now it's worse because people are seeing how it's the least believable dating scandal ever, how quickly it ended, the realization dispatch tried to trick us with fake proof, the fact that the guy seriously seems gay. It could be true though I mean they confirmed right... But still.

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Also why did she even apologize, was it cause she was stressed seeing the hate by loser incels? She said she's not the type to care about haters but well maybe this was too much hate for her (her fans kept being extremely supportive though). Was she forced to write it? Why is she saying "i won't disappoint you again" that's the most pathetic line. Basically saying she'll stay celibate for the fans like yikes.
Anyways even that damn letter is odd, the fact that it exists in itself is odd. Which i knew for a fact instead of making myself look dumb believing there's a chance it's fake. Can't help it given everything

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So on top of being aware of her shirt she mentioned it lol... I mean it's hard to not think she's not «baiting» again

les/bi women are already coping and saying her dating scandal was actually just pr, im not gonna get pissed at her if she still continues to bait.

That cope has been a thing since the day the scandal dropped. Now it's worse because people are seeing how it's the least believable dating scandal ever, how quickly it ended, the realization dispatch tried to trick us with fake proof, the fact that the guy seriously seems gay. It could be true though I mean they confirmed right... But still.

The dating news dropped before his drama start and end a few episodes before the finale. If they want to make it believable, they should have dropped the actual proof of them together in a photos. Not to mention the episode where Jang Do Yeon mention her dropped the same day on dating news hence we knew it was planned. Maybe they are seeing each other romantically and breaking up after a months is normal, especially for celebrities like them but I won’t blame people for thinking it’s a PR

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So on top of being aware of her shirt she mentioned it lol... I mean it's hard to not think she's not «baiting» again

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les/bi women are already coping and saying her dating scandal was actually just pr, im not gonna get pissed at her if she still continues to bait.

That cope has been a thing since the day the scandal dropped. Now it's worse because people are seeing how it's the least believable dating scandal ever, how quickly it ended, the realization dispatch tried to trick us with fake proof, the fact that the guy seriously seems gay. It could be true though I mean they confirmed right... But still.

The dating news dropped before his drama start and end a few episodes before the finale. If they want to make it believable, they should have dropped the actual proof of them together in a photos. Not to mention the episode where Jang Do Yeon mention her dropped the same day on dating news hence we knew it was planned. Maybe they are seeing each other romantically and breaking up after a months is normal, especially for celebrities like them but I won’t blame people for thinking it’s a PR

Damn yeah forgot about that. And the way he reacts at karina's name, some say he's whipped and that's proof they're dating but it's actually the opposite for me: wouldn't a k celeb who's dating a kpop idol try to pull his best poker face to not raise suspicions? When Jang Doyeon mentions the 2 women, the dude is literally like "wowww really??". Though maybe it's his way to be smooth.
If they dated though that guy seriously seems like a very good person unlike many other men so there's at least that. The fact that he gives huge gay vibes might contribute to that impression.

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So on top of being aware of her shirt she mentioned it lol... I mean it's hard to not think she's not «baiting» again

Send nudes? Wtf Who thought that was a good idea...

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She's so hot...



Cringe to say maybe but i need to know her sexuality

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I hesitated to post that in the general thread but I saw someone mentioning it and there were trolls so i'll try here even though it's dead af.

Do aespa fans know about that "han river" friend, cause looking a bit into it and that's pretty sus..? Reminds me of Irene's purple friend except karina kept that friend to this day and they act pretty romantic, actually it seems if karina isn't with her family she's with that friend. Why is she called "han river" friend btw?

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I hesitated to post that in the general thread but I saw someone mentioning it and there were trolls so i'll try here even though it's dead af.

Do aespa fans know about that "han river" friend, cause looking a bit into it and that's pretty sus..? Reminds me of Irene's purple friend except karina kept that friend to this day and they act pretty romantic, actually it seems if karina isn't with her family she's with that friend. Why is she called "han river" friend btw?

I want to know too... What's all the details we know about "han river" friend?

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I hesitated to post that in the general thread but I saw someone mentioning it and there were trolls so i'll try here even though it's dead af.

Do aespa fans know about that "han river" friend, cause looking a bit into it and that's pretty sus..? Reminds me of Irene's purple friend except karina kept that friend to this day and they act pretty romantic, actually it seems if karina isn't with her family she's with that friend. Why is she called "han river" friend btw?

I want to know too... What's all the details we know about "han river" friend?

She talk about it with Giselle before. The video was posted on Aespa’s yt channel, when Giselle mention about their lockscreen. Karina said that the friend on her lockscreen which alleged to be “Han river friend” is a very dear friend to her, they’ve been friend for a long time and she even invite this friend to a dinner with her family so I guess they are pretty close. Idk I think travelling with friend is normal but having your friend as your lockscreen for years is kinda sus. It’s like that “one aunt and her roommate of 10 years” . But I have a very deep platonic friendship with female so they could be like that. I’m glad Karina has a very good support by her side since she’s probably are skeptical over everyone she met due to recent drama.

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I hesitated to post that in the general thread but I saw someone mentioning it and there were trolls so i'll try here even though it's dead af.

Do aespa fans know about that "han river" friend, cause looking a bit into it and that's pretty sus..? Reminds me of Irene's purple friend except karina kept that friend to this day and they act pretty romantic, actually it seems if karina isn't with her family she's with that friend. Why is she called "han river" friend btw?

I want to know too... What's all the details we know about "han river" friend?

She talk about it with Giselle before. The video was posted on Aespa’s yt channel, when Giselle mention about their lockscreen. Karina said that the friend on her lockscreen which alleged to be “Han river friend” is a very dear friend to her, they’ve been friend for a long time and she even invite this friend to a dinner with her family so I guess they are pretty close. Idk I think travelling with friend is normal but having your friend as your lockscreen for years is kinda sus. It’s like that “one aunt and her roommate of 10 years” . But I have a very deep platonic friendship with female so they could be like that. I’m glad Karina has a very good support by her side since she’s probably are skeptical over everyone she met due to recent drama.

The fact that Giselle talked about it and that there exists so many pics of her lockscreen of that friend makes me think she does it on "purpose" like she wants people to know about that friend (reminds me of Sullyoon showing her Sana lockscreen pretending it's an accident) and/or she's that obsessed with her gf.

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And apparently han river is a popular place for couples though not only. Like you said a best friend is a best friend, you spend lots of time with them sometimes more than with your family and there's nothing weird about it, even having a friend on a lockscreen isn't that odd i guess... But it's still odd.

And the way that friend is so whipped... Giggles at every thing Karina does (4:20, 5:40, more in the snow or Japan street), overly films her face even though karina wants to show her snowman or the food... And Karina was behaving in borderline pick me mode, like she was extra cute, trying to not mind the friend shoving the camera on her face all the time.

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I hesitated to post that in the general thread but I saw someone mentioning it and there were trolls so i'll try here even though it's dead af.

Do aespa fans know about that "han river" friend, cause looking a bit into it and that's pretty sus..? Reminds me of Irene's purple friend except karina kept that friend to this day and they act pretty romantic, actually it seems if karina isn't with her family she's with that friend. Why is she called "han river" friend btw?

I want to know too... What's all the details we know about "han river" friend?

She talk about it with Giselle before. The video was posted on Aespa’s yt channel, when Giselle mention about their lockscreen. Karina said that the friend on her lockscreen which alleged to be “Han river friend” is a very dear friend to her, they’ve been friend for a long time and she even invite this friend to a dinner with her family so I guess they are pretty close. Idk I think travelling with friend is normal but having your friend as your lockscreen for years is kinda sus. It’s like that “one aunt and her roommate of 10 years” . But I have a very deep platonic friendship with female so they could be like that. I’m glad Karina has a very good support by her side since she’s probably are skeptical over everyone she met due to recent drama.

The fact that Giselle talked about it and that there exists so many pics of her lockscreen of that friend makes me think she does it on "purpose" like she wants people to know about that friend (reminds me of Sullyoon showing her Sana lockscreen pretending it's an accident) and/or she's that obsessed with her gf.

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And apparently han river is a popular place for couples though not only. Like you said a best friend is a best friend, you spend lots of time with them sometimes more than with your family and there's nothing weird about it, even having a friend on a lockscreen isn't that odd i guess... But it's still odd.

And the way that friend is so whipped... Giggles at every thing Karina does (4:20, 5:40, more in the snow or Japan street), overly films her face even though karina wants to show her snowman or the food... And Karina was behaving in borderline pick me mode, like she was extra cute, trying to not mind the friend shoving the camera on her face all the time.

Having a lock screen of a "friend" for years is so sus to me idk. Karina looks so pretty in the snow, you can tell her friend thinks so too lol... Lucky girl