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These lyrics couldn't get any gayer to be honest. Forbidden lesbian relationship anyone? In the Korean version you also have her talking about how it's a sin but she'll gladly be punished.

I have never seen anything so bold from a group in Korea. Considering it was written by Soyeon I wonder if she was drawing from personal experience :shifty:

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These lyrics couldn't get any gayer to be honest. Forbidden lesbian relationship anyone? In the Korean version you also have her talking about how it's a sin but she'll gladly be punished.

I have never seen anything so bold from a group in Korea. Considering it was written by Soyeon I wonder if she was drawing from personal experience  :shifty:
The Korean version was already pretty fucking gay. Now this. I'm curious what het explanation they'll pull for this lol. I don't know much about Soyeon besides that she's stupidly talented, but she just got a whole lot more interesting to me. Gonna try to find some clips of her talking about the song meaning.

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jsj,Apr 6 2020, 03:12 PM wrote: The Korean version was already pretty fucking gay. Now this. I'm curious what het explanation they'll pull for this lol. I don't know much about Soyeon besides that she's stupidly talented, but she just got a whole lot more interesting to me. Gonna try to find some clips of her talking about the song meaning.
Think they are going with "self love" and tons of people say they are referring to themselves rather than a girl. I am cackling though, nothing in the english version suggests that. It's pure forbidden desire for a girl... gay af.

I actually feel sorry for any lgbt folk in the industry that want to express it via song, it's not like they would be allowed to tell people the true meaning, always have to come up with some bs that the homophobes can latch onto to placate themselves.

The Korean MV's description is "Going through "denial," "confusion," "acceptance," and "confidence" and colliding with reality makes you realize that you have to believe in yourself."

Tbh that doesn't really point away from a gay meaning, perfectly describes the journey some of us go through right. Denial at first to accepting ourselves.

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The latest episode of ILA of son dambi and gang just screams gayyyyy

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BeHappy,Apr 7 2020, 04:57 AM wrote:The latest episode of ILA of son dambi and gang just screams gayyyyy
OMG I was hoping someone would mention this. If only we could post links.
Remember they all want to get married though lol. Apart from Gong Hyo Jin who they don't think will get married for some reason? :hmmm:

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Is Itaweon Class any good? Heard there was some gay?

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Came here to post about G-IDLE's "Oh my God" but I see that it was already discussed... I don't stan G-IDLE (think they are awesome and all but don't have time to stan) but I got a commercial on youtube of the video and was amazed at the lyrics and the story of the video. They are full on gay, like the straights will have to break their backs trying to twist it into a het explanation. You are winning me over G-IDLE :bowdown:

G-IDLE "Oh my god" official video

Even more eyebrow raising the fact that soyeon wrote it, you go girl. As if she wasn't talented enough. :clap:

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As a casual listener of G-IDLE. Soyeon and Soojin give me LGBT+ vibes. I read the thread and people seem to have different opinions about who in G-IDLE is part of the community. But Soojin screams bisexual to me and Soyeon... I'm not quite sure but that girl ain't straight.

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Guest,Apr 7 2020, 02:41 PM wrote:Came here to post about G-IDLE's "Oh my God" but I see that it was already discussed... I don't stan G-IDLE (think they are awesome and all but don't have time to stan) but I got a commercial on youtube of the video and was amazed at the lyrics and the story of the video. They are full on gay, like the straights will have to break their backs trying to twist it into a het explanation. You are winning me over G-IDLE :bowdown:

G-IDLE "Oh my god" official video

Even more eyebrow raising the fact that soyeon wrote it, you go girl. As if she wasn't talented enough. :clap:
I hear from a lot of people, apparently that it's supposed to be from a third person perspective about a guy who doesnt want his girl to be more powerful than him-and Soojin is representing
some female demon and they are letting her take over them

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Guest,Apr 7 2020, 11:18 AM wrote:Is Itaweon Class any good? Heard there was some gay?
A character is trans. That's all I know.

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This is what Soyeon has actually said about the song. People have been interpreting it however they want trying to hetsplain it but here is what she has actually said about it so far:

starting @ 12:23

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Guest,Mar 27 2020, 12:08 PM wrote: Dami
x2 Only Dami pings[/QUOTE]

Huh. I thought ppl were saying Siyeon and Sua ping, but I really don't follow Dreamcatcher so what do I know?

Lol, she said she's friends with Yves from Loona. Idk if Yves is gay, but she seems like an effective litmus test. Just put a girl in front of her and see how she reacts. She's such a chick magnet.[/QUOTE]
Yves is a chick magnet? I see as chick magnet idols like Sunmi, Monbyul and Jeongeyon who literally have girls openly swooning over them and flirting with them.

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Guest,Mar 27 2020, 10:32 PM wrote:Dami has fangirled hard over Taeyeon, Yuri, and Sunmi, and joked about not washing her hand ever again after she shook TY's hand lmao. They even teased her about it.
I think Siyeon might not be het. Dont know about sua.
Dami also got the so called "gay eyes", like Yubin.

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Guest,Apr 7 2020, 02:43 PM wrote:As a casual listener of G-IDLE. Soyeon and Soojin give me LGBT+ vibes. I read the thread and people seem to have different opinions about who in G-IDLE is part of the community. But Soojin screams bisexual to me and Soyeon... I'm not quite sure but that girl ain't straight.
Soyeon is so hated and for really stupid reasons. She doesn't seem boy crazy and looks great with that new hair.

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Guest,Mar 28 2020, 02:39 PM wrote:Thoughts on Ryujin?
She pings so much. Any rumors?

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Guest,Apr 7 2020, 04:12 PM wrote:This is what Soyeon has actually said about the song. People have been interpreting it however they want trying to hetsplain it but here is what she has actually said about it so far:

starting @ 12:23
"I took love as a metaphor for the process of trusting oneself no matter what kind of reality they're in."

I need a translation for this translation

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Guest,Apr 8 2020, 03:14 AM wrote: "I took love as a metaphor for the process of trusting oneself no matter what kind of reality they're in."

I need a translation for this translation
If you're gay believe in yourself even if homophobic society tells you is wrong

The song is gay af and the MV as a lot of symbolism, even the choreo is a little bit gay. I think that makes Soyeon getting on board in the suspicious group xD
Tbh I like the group cause of music (and their voices) but I dont follow them on vlive etc so I don't know her personalities much. I like Minnie tho. But I can't say who pings or not.

Quite surprised they let them broadcast...


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Guest,Apr 7 2020, 10:17 PM wrote: Dami also got the so called "gay eyes", like Yubin.
On Dreamcatcher I would put my bets on Sua, Siyeon and Yoohyeon. I'm not saying all of them are gay cause that's quite impossible but if someone are it's between those. (I wish I could say Jiu cause I love her but I guess she is just a sunshine full of love for everyone and very open-minded)

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Alek,Apr 8 2020, 06:08 AM wrote:
On Dreamcatcher I would put my bets on Sua, Siyeon and Yoohyeon. I'm not saying all of them are gay cause that's quite impossible but if someone are it's between those. (I wish I could say Jiu cause I love her but I guess she is just a sunshine full of love for everyone and very open-minded)
Lol Why don't you say what you find so gay about these three? Fanservice? Queer fanservice?
I mean, comparing them to Yubin, LE, Byul, Ryujin they're just the typical straight girls who just don't sound homophobic but also don't look like they're trying to hide something important about themselves or living a lie.

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Guest,Apr 7 2020, 05:16 PM wrote:
x2 Only Dami pings
Huh. I thought ppl were saying Siyeon and Sua ping, but I really don't follow Dreamcatcher so what do I know?

Lol, she said she's friends with Yves from Loona. Idk if Yves is gay, but she seems like an effective litmus test. Just put a girl in front of her and see how she reacts. She's such a chick magnet.[/QUOTE]
Yves is a chick magnet? I see as chick magnet idols like Sunmi, Monbyul and Jeongeyon who literally have girls openly swooning over them and flirting with them.[/QUOTE]
Actually yeah Yves is becoming quite the chick magnet for this newer gen. This comeback she had a lot of female idols openly expressing their desire to become close to her.

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"Huh. I thought ppl were saying Siyeon and Sua ping, but I really don't follow Dreamcatcher so what do I know? "

"Lol, she said she's friends with Yves from Loona. Idk if Yves is gay, but she seems like an effective litmus test. Just put a girl in front of her and see how she reacts. She's such a chick magnet."

"Yves is a chick magnet? I see as chick magnet idols like Sunmi, Monbyul and Jeongeyon who literally have girls openly swooning over them and flirting with them."

"Actually yeah Yves is becoming quite the chick magnet for this newer gen. This comeback she had a lot of female idols openly expressing their desire to become close to her."


DA and x2. Lots of her female peers wanting to get closer. She seems to be joining the lines of Sunmi, Moonbyul, Seulgi and Jeongeyon as a chick magnet. Are there any other new gen idol that is earning that tittle as well?

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Guest,Apr 8 2020, 12:46 PM wrote: Lol Why don't you say what you find so gay about these three? Fanservice? Queer fanservice?
I mean, comparing them to Yubin, LE, Byul, Ryujin they're just the typical straight girls who just don't sound homophobic but also don't look like they're trying to hide something important about themselves or living a lie.
Lol come on of everyone u mentioned that is gay for sure is LE we don't even have enough prove to say even Byul is gay (who probably is). Ryujin COME ON! What do we know about her? Some behaviour (bait like u say) with her members?
And Yubin, we all know the story about the "bottom bitch" but aside from that what else do we know for sure? (Knowing that some korean girls said this was probably more roleplay than anything else... I do think she's gay tho) As is said not everyone I mentioned is gay but if there's someone not straight on Dreamcatcher I would say is some of those 3. Sua is a troll and baits too much, I can't deny it. Siyeon and Yoo are more suspicious especially the last one for things she has said etc. None have Instagram etc so we can check their lives ala LE who was obviously with a girl (and most likely still is) as we could saw from her insta.

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Soyeon when asked by MTV about the female pronouns in 'Oh my god'

"I believe all kinds of love are valuable and must be respected."


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Guest,Apr 8 2020, 07:46 AM wrote: Lol Why don't you say what you find so gay about these three? Fanservice? Queer fanservice?
I mean, comparing them to Yubin, LE, Byul, Ryujin they're just the typical straight girls who just don't sound homophobic but also don't look like they're trying to hide something important about themselves or living a lie.
Oh hell no. You can't do Yoohyeon dirty like that. She basically came out as non-het with all the confidence in the world. This is the girl that was asked to describe her ideal type, she mentioned she likes a hard working PERSON.

The interviewer basically said "so this is what Yoohyeon's ideal man is"

Yoohyeon quickly corrected her with "PEOPLE, all kinds of PEOPLE" The people was stressed. No straight girl corrects someone assuming het if they are strictly het, it probably wouldn't even occur to a straight.



She also posts love is love pictures and regularly covers songs that are about girls and leaves the pronouns. She is also obsessed with Sunmi to the point of writing her a personal letter.

She isn't as loud and chaotic gay as Sua though, it's more subtle. Siyeon and SuA together can be sus as hell, just look up any video of their moments. I don't like to ship members in bands in general but it's hard to deny that they have chemistry.

SuA really doesn't care about keeping quiet, for example when she was asked what she wanted to eat, she said a slang word for lesbian. It was the most funny but awkward thing.


Speaking as a very big insomnia, the girls are talking about and doing gay-ish stuff too much for all of them to be straight. It is like double the amount of times than Twice. People not looking into them are really missing out on a really fun and potentially sus group.
Soyeon when asked by MTV about the female pronouns in 'Oh my god'

"I believe all kinds of love are valuable and must be respected."

Legend. She also has said as an explanation of the song "we trust our own selves instead of environments or society."

Now I dunno about anyone else but the song lyrics sound very lesbian and we all know how society treats us, especially in ultra conservative places like Korea. I am taking that as we have to trust our own self and feelings despite society telling us it's wrong, if we want to live happily.

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Alek,Apr 8 2020, 02:38 PM wrote:
Lol come on of everyone u mentioned that is gay for sure is LE we don't even have enough prove to say even Byul is gay (who probably is). Ryujin COME ON! What do we know about her? Some behaviour (bait like u say) with her members?
And Yubin, we all know the story about the "bottom bitch" but aside from that what else do we know for sure? (Knowing that some korean girls said this was probably more roleplay than anything else... I do think she's gay tho) As is said not everyone I mentioned is gay but if there's someone not straight on Dreamcatcher I would say is some of those 3. Sua is a troll and baits too much, I can't deny it. Siyeon and Yoo are more suspicious especially the last one for things she has said etc. None have Instagram etc so we can check their lives ala LE who was obviously with a girl (and most likely still is) as we could saw from her insta.
Ryujin literally said that she gave her number to a girl because she found the girl cute. This and she's a rapper and a lot of kpop rappers ping.
Yubin never had a bf scandal and Sunmi once said that Yubin gave in her bday her first kiss. I'm not saying that they're gay, just that if you're going to pick random girly idols (like 90% of the female idols act and look like) and say that they ping you have to give a very good reason why.

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Ryujin was also scouted at a bg concert (got7). idc what anyone says no lez stans men like that. bi perhaps.

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Guest wrote:Ryujin was also scouted at a bg concert (got7).  idc what anyone says no lez stans men like that.  bi perhaps.
I agree she likes men, cause she was scouted at a fansign (lowkey worse than a concert). But she pings me as bi as someone who's watched bits and pieces of Mixnine. At the very least, she's supportive.

https://twitter.com/1tzy_/status/1186005904115691520

But do y'all think someone who likes watching het AF romance kdramas is someone who likes men? As a lesbian, het storylines are super unrelatable and watching them is like eating stale, bland bread.

Us Orbits are all like "Yves pings me so much!" But I think she's JUST a chick magnet especially with her taste in movies. She seems like an oblivious straight to me tbh.

Vivi, Kim Lip - Not straight tho

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Guest wrote:Ryujin was also scouted at a bg concert (got7).  idc what anyone says no lez stans men like that.  bi perhaps.
I cannot imagine her liking the music of girly groups, not because I think she is sexually attracted to men but because it just doesn't seem like her style. She implied in the showcase that she didn't even have a favorite Itzy song before Nobody Like You.

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Guest wrote:Ryujin was also scouted at a bg concert (got7).  idc what anyone says no lez stans men like that.  bi perhaps.
... So lesbians can't like male artists? Not saying she is or isn't one, but that's not really best criteria to go off of.
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Lol come on of everyone u mentioned that is gay for sure is LE we don't even have enough prove to say even Byul is gay (who probably is). Ryujin COME ON! What do we know about her? Some behaviour (bait like u say) with her members?
And Yubin, we all know the story about the "bottom bitch" but aside from that what else do we know for sure? (Knowing that some korean girls said this was probably more roleplay than anything else... I do think she's gay tho) As is said not everyone I mentioned is gay but if there's someone not straight on Dreamcatcher I would say is some of those 3. Sua is a troll and baits too much, I can't deny it. Siyeon and Yoo are more suspicious especially the last one for things she has said etc. None have Instagram etc so we can check their lives ala LE who was obviously with a girl (and most likely still is) as we could saw from her insta.
Ryujin literally said that she gave her number to a girl because she found the girl cute. This and she's a rapper and a lot of kpop rappers ping.
Yubin never had a bf scandal and Sunmi once said that Yubin gave in her bday her first kiss. I'm not saying that they're gay, just that if you're going to pick random girly idols (like 90% of the female idols act and look like) and say that they ping you have to give a very good reason why.
Yes I do know that story about Ryujin. An all about Yubin which I said I really think she is most likely gay. But, if you are going to valid Ryujin just for that story or her behaviour with Lia or Yuna then you definitely should valid Sua-Siyeon or especially Yoo, since all of them has more receipts than her.

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Guest wrote:Ryujin was also scouted at a bg concert (got7).  idc what anyone says no lez stans men like that.  bi perhaps.
Are you kidding me?? Do you have social media? There's a lesbian fanbase for bts on Twitter and it's so big "bts are lesbians" even became a meme.
I used to fight with these fans, because they don't seem to stan girl groups and only tweet about male idols. I was mass attacked by a lot of them and called a lesbophobic because I was saying that lesbians can't have male idols. In the end they're just a bunch of femmes who prefer masculine girls and fantasize kpop male idols as lesbians (because they look so effeminate anyway). Lol

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Lol come on of everyone u mentioned that is gay for sure is LE we don't even have enough prove to say even Byul is gay (who probably is). Ryujin COME ON! What do we know about her? Some behaviour (bait like u say) with her members?
And Yubin, we all know the story about the "bottom bitch" but aside from that what else do we know for sure? (Knowing that some korean girls said this was probably more roleplay than anything else... I do think she's gay tho) As is said not everyone I mentioned is gay but if there's someone not straight on Dreamcatcher I would say is some of those 3. Sua is a troll and baits too much, I can't deny it. Siyeon and Yoo are more suspicious especially the last one for things she has said etc. None have Instagram etc so we can check their lives ala LE who was obviously with a girl (and most likely still is) as we could saw from her insta.
Ryujin literally said that she gave her number to a girl because she found the girl cute. This and she's a rapper and a lot of kpop rappers ping.
Yubin never had a bf scandal and Sunmi once said that Yubin gave in her bday her first kiss. I'm not saying that they're gay, just that if you're going to pick random girly idols (like 90% of the female idols act and look like) and say that they ping you have to give a very good reason why.
Yes I do know that story about Ryujin. An all about Yubin which I said I really think she is most likely gay. But, if you are going to valid Ryujin just for that story or her behaviour with Lia or Yuna then you definitely should valid Sua-Siyeon or especially Yoo, since all of them has more receipts than her.
So you should have posted the receipts about the three ones, like we've always been doing about the other idols.

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Guest wrote:Ryujin was also scouted at a bg concert (got7). idc what anyone says no lez stans men like that. bi perhaps.
Are you kidding me?? Do you have social media? There's a lesbian fanbase for bts on Twitter and it's so big "bts are lesbians" even became a meme.
I used to fight with these fans, because they don't seem to stan girl groups and only tweet about male idols. I was mass attacked by a lot of them and called a lesbophobic because I was saying that lesbians can't have male idols. In the end they're just a bunch of femmes who prefer masculine girls and fantasize kpop male idols as lesbians (because they look so effeminate anyway). Lol
sorry but I don't believe these women are lesbians they are bi in-denial, how can a lesbian fantasize about males as a lesbian is the same for harry styles fans. yes I like some male artist but not to this point

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Lol come on of everyone u mentioned that is gay for sure is LE we don't even have enough prove to say even Byul is gay (who probably is). Ryujin COME ON! What do we know about her? Some behaviour (bait like u say) with her members?
And Yubin, we all know the story about the "bottom bitch" but aside from that what else do we know for sure? (Knowing that some korean girls said this was probably more roleplay than anything else... I do think she's gay tho) As is said not everyone I mentioned is gay but if there's someone not straight on Dreamcatcher I would say is some of those 3. Sua is a troll and baits too much, I can't deny it. Siyeon and Yoo are more suspicious especially the last one for things she has said etc. None have Instagram etc so we can check their lives ala LE who was obviously with a girl (and most likely still is) as we could saw from her insta.
Ryujin literally said that she gave her number to a girl because she found the girl cute. This and she's a rapper and a lot of kpop rappers ping.
Yubin never had a bf scandal and Sunmi once said that Yubin gave in her bday her first kiss. I'm not saying that they're gay, just that if you're going to pick random girly idols (like 90% of the female idols act and look like) and say that they ping you have to give a very good reason why.
Yes I do know that story about Ryujin. An all about Yubin which I said I really think she is most likely gay. But, if you are going to valid Ryujin just for that story or her behaviour with Lia or Yuna then you definitely should valid Sua-Siyeon or especially Yoo, since all of them has more receipts than her.
So you should have posted the receipts about the three ones, like we've always been doing about the other idols.
Another anon already posted about Yoo answering your post. And in this forum Dreamcatcher has been extensively discussed.

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Guest wrote:Ryujin was also scouted at a bg concert (got7). idc what anyone says no lez stans men like that. bi perhaps.
... So lesbians can't like male artists? Not saying she is or isn't one, but that's not really best criteria to go off of.
Preach. Growing up my favourite group used to be an indie/pop-rock group that were male and I would have travelled to another country to see them perform live and meet them. I have never felt even a smidge of sexual attraction to a man. Taste in music has nothing to do with sexual orientation, unless you are one of those people that only like groups because you find them hot and don't really value music or artistic expression higher than that. I assume people saying things like this air on the more shallow side.

Some people act that if you are gay you can never appreciate anything any men do at all or it must link to some sort of sexual attraction.

I understand that people are fragile and get burned a lot by girls that seem gay and then they go het later so have learned to have a lot of doubt and are over cautious, but some things go a bit far.
So you should have posted the receipts about the three ones, like we've always been doing about the other idols
Tbh Dreamcatcher has been discussed before, even the Yoo receipt has been posted in the past. You can't really get any stronger evidence than correcting someone assuming you're straight to saying your answer wasn't limited to men. It's a pretty closed case. It would be cool to see more Dreamcatcher posts though cause there is a shit ton of sus stuff. I don't post about them here because last time I did ages ago (on anon) I got attacked because people had an issue with their group name and basically said they were trash and didn't want to hear about them.

There are more posts in the "who is a les" topic on onehallyu tho if anyone wants to see receipts.

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Guest wrote:Ryujin was also scouted at a bg concert (got7). idc what anyone says no lez stans men like that. bi perhaps.
Are you kidding me?? Do you have social media? There's a lesbian fanbase for bts on Twitter and it's so big "bts are lesbians" even became a meme.
I used to fight with these fans, because they don't seem to stan girl groups and only tweet about male idols. I was mass attacked by a lot of them and called a lesbophobic because I was saying that lesbians can't have male idols. In the end they're just a bunch of femmes who prefer masculine girls and fantasize kpop male idols as lesbians (because they look so effeminate anyway). Lol
sorry but I don't believe these women are lesbians they are bi in-denial, how can a lesbian fantasize about males as a lesbian is the same for harry styles fans. yes I like some male artist but not to this point
Yeah, I think it's weird and ridiculous, but the stans get all defensive about that on SM. Some say that it's just a joke, but they literally worship bts and make fan accounts just for them.
Anyway, if Ryujin is a lesbian, she's closeted, so maybe she stans got7 because she felt pressure to stan bgs like most het girls do. And I've seen that the idols who ping the most as gays are also the ones who try desperately to convince fans that they're attracted to guys, so they seem at least bi. But who knows?

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Guest wrote:Ryujin was also scouted at a bg concert (got7). idc what anyone says no lez stans men like that. bi perhaps.
Are you kidding me?? Do you have social media? There's a lesbian fanbase for bts on Twitter and it's so big "bts are lesbians" even became a meme.
I used to fight with these fans, because they don't seem to stan girl groups and only tweet about male idols. I was mass attacked by a lot of them and called a lesbophobic because I was saying that lesbians can't have male idols. In the end they're just a bunch of femmes who prefer masculine girls and fantasize kpop male idols as lesbians (because they look so effeminate anyway). Lol
sorry but I don't believe these women are lesbians they are bi in-denial, how can a lesbian fantasize about males as a lesbian is the same for harry styles fans. yes I like some male artist but not to this point
Yeah, I think it's weird and ridiculous, but the stans get all defensive about that on SM. Some say that it's just a joke, but they literally worship bts and make fan accounts just for them.
Anyway, if Ryujin is a lesbian, she's closeted, so maybe she stans got7 because she felt pressure to stan bgs like most het girls do. And I've seen that the idols who ping the most as gays are also the ones who try desperately to convince fans that they're attracted to guys, so they seem at least bi. But who knows?
there is something I found weird also, so many transexual in K-pop fandoms

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DnB wrote:
Guest wrote:Ryujin was also scouted at a bg concert (got7). idc what anyone says no lez stans men like that. bi perhaps.
Are you kidding me?? Do you have social media? There's a lesbian fanbase for bts on Twitter and it's so big "bts are lesbians" even became a meme.
I used to fight with these fans, because they don't seem to stan girl groups and only tweet about male idols. I was mass attacked by a lot of them and called a lesbophobic because I was saying that lesbians can't have male idols. In the end they're just a bunch of femmes who prefer masculine girls and fantasize kpop male idols as lesbians (because they look so effeminate anyway). Lol
sorry but I don't believe these women are lesbians they are bi in-denial, how can a lesbian fantasize about males as a lesbian is the same for harry styles fans. yes I like some male artist but not to this point
Yeah, I think it's weird and ridiculous, but the stans get all defensive about that on SM. Some say that it's just a joke, but they literally worship bts and make fan accounts just for them.
Anyway, if Ryujin is a lesbian, she's closeted, so maybe she stans got7 because she felt pressure to stan bgs like most het girls do. And I've seen that the idols who ping the most as gays are also the ones who try desperately to convince fans that they're attracted to guys, so they seem at least bi. But who knows?
I think people also forget to take into account that Ryujin was probably like 13-14 when she was scouted. I know when I was that age I was still trying to convince myself I liked boys. I also definitely had a phase when I was a kid where I loved *NSYNC and the Backstreet Boys.

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So LE uploaded two youtube videos with english subtitles on youtube of her and Youzu making jewelry together. Did anyone else watch?

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Soyeon is gay right? I've been following Cube trainees since I am a previous 4M stan and well before OMG, Soyeon would ping more than than a multiplayer online tournament between players from Chechnya and Brasil.

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Soojin I know way too much about and has never pinged to me and has been pictured too many times with the opposite gender for me to ever buy that she likes women in that way. I wonder if that's a wishful thinking scenario with k lesbians like with Krystal Jung? I bet it is. It's hard not to fall for Soojin's charm.

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Gidle are really difficult to read for me, at first I thought none of them were gay tbh and I still think that way to some extent but this mini is really, well... sapphic haha and not just OMG (LuvU also) so idk what to think anymore.

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I'm really curious about Soyeon now. I've only followed Gidle's music, haven't really paid much attention to the members outside of what I've seen on Queendom and a few clips here and there. So for those who have followed them closely, has Soyeon pinged in the past or been a bit suspect?

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Visitor wrote:Soyeon is gay right? I've been following Cube trainees since I am a previous 4M stan and well before OMG, Soyeon would ping more than than a multiplayer online tournament between players from Chechnya and Brasil.

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Soojin I know way too much about and has never pinged to me and has been pictured too many times with the opposite gender for me to ever buy that she likes women in that way. I wonder if that's a wishful thinking scenario with k lesbians like with Krystal Jung? I bet it is. It's hard not to fall for Soojin's charm.
How did Soyeon ping? In what she said or in her mannerisms?

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Visitor wrote:Soyeon is gay right? I've been following Cube trainees since I am a previous 4M stan and well before OMG, Soyeon would ping more than than a multiplayer online tournament between players from Chechnya and Brasil.

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Soojin I know way too much about and has never pinged to me and has been pictured too many times with the opposite gender for me to ever buy that she likes women in that way. I wonder if that's a wishful thinking scenario with k lesbians like with Krystal Jung? I bet it is. It's hard not to fall for Soojin's charm.
I agree, I have been a fan of (G)i-dle since their debut and Soyeon has always pinged to me. I had even argued about it with my gf before and she wasn't sure, but she agrees with me now after Oh My God. I don't get vibes off any of the other members though.

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Visitor wrote:Soyeon is gay right? I've been following Cube trainees since I am a previous 4M stan and well before OMG, Soyeon would ping more than than a multiplayer online tournament between players from Chechnya and Brasil.

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Soojin I know way too much about and has never pinged to me and has been pictured too many times with the opposite gender for me to ever buy that she likes women in that way. I wonder if that's a wishful thinking scenario with k lesbians like with Krystal Jung? I bet it is. It's hard not to fall for Soojin's charm.
DA I see what you mean now. I was one of the anons saying that Soojin gave me bi vibes but from then to now I have watched some videos and yeah, she doesn't ping. Quite the opposite in fact.

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Naeun's always been interesting. That's from when she was talking about Tzuyu I think.

APink in general are interesting. I haven't followed them closely in years but I'll never forget Bomi's Freudian slip about marrying a woman.

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Naeun's crush Tzuyu was definitely not straight. That was some iconic shh... I'm not good at reading feminine bisexials/lesbians so unless they come out an say it and have solid gay tea rumours I don't speculate about them as much as someone who are more gender neutral. Honestly koreans f**k with my raydar even more. So i don't even bother to question if someone unlikely suddenly comes out less straught anymore. Basically i can't say much about whether she might be gay or bisexual. But that was definitely not someone a completely straight celebrity in a homophobic country would just blurt out. Girl is probably has more "curves" than most people think

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redresin wrote:Naeun's crush Tzuyu was definitely not straight. That was some iconic shh... I'm not good at reading feminine bisexials/lesbians so unless they come out an say it and have solid gay tea rumours I don't speculate about them as much as someone who are more gender neutral. Honestly koreans f**k with my raydar even more. So i don't even bother to question if someone unlikely suddenly comes out less straught anymore.  Basically i can't say much about whether she might be gay or bisexual.  But that was definitely not someone a completely straight celebrity in a homophobic country would just blurt out.  Girl is probably has more "curves" than most people think
I'm like you, I'm not delusional about most idols not being straight just because of fanservice. The problem with kpop is that since most groups have opposite sex fandom the members are not allowed to openly date or gush over opposite sex people, so they fanservice constantly with queer stuff (girl crushes, boy crushes, marrying fellow members, lesbian jokes) because most Koreans are so homophobic they never take these things seriously. If you check on SM the gay fanservice from bgs is even bigger but only a few are suspected to be gay as in the end the idols end up with gfs or married.
Btw a female idol who was heavily suspected as being gay because of fanservice and queer talk but ended up having a lot of bfs is Taeyeon.

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One thing to note though is that fanservice of bg vs GG differs in degree. Like in a lot asian countries, girls esp young girls are more affectionate and cuddly than western countries. So unless they start being sexual, it isn' t really fanservice although they are encouraged to show off their friendship most of the time. Bgs do a lot more homoerotic fanservice. S*ju was notorious for that despite having a known homophobic member. As for Taeyeon, she got those bisexual rumours and it's a but SUS that she's very popular with korean lesbians. Seems like they know whatsup. Either that or taeyeon is just completely fits korean lesbians ideal type...

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