by Guest » 12 May 2024, 20:46
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I'm confused. What makes something a receipt vs a sus thing?
I usually call a receip a fact that it's really hard or impossible to explain by other reasons and that we can confirm as real. Like Yoohyeon saying she likes all people, that's something said by her, on video, correctly translated, with enough context, and that it's hard to misunderstand with other reasons as to why she would say that in that way. So if someone says "Yooh is straight", we have a receipt of her that proves that statement wrong or at least makes it lose a lot of weight (unless they also present a receipt in line with their statement which opens a debate)
A sus thing on the other hand is something that can be explained by other reasons, but that in the context, adding up to other sus things or just because it's hard to define where's the line, makes you think it might indicate or hint at something being true. Like the Siyeon Valentine's story, she could be talking about a neighbourhood male friend, but the situation makes more sense in a school setting and at that time she was in an all-girls school, that's why it's sus and it also adds to a whole list of sus things related to her
A receipt is a strong sign, while a sus thing is a rather weak one. The receipt is more used as proof, while the sus things are like little flags that makes you pay more or less attention to certain people
Also, the sus things, unless is REALLY sus, have more or less weight depending on how many other sus things they have. So far, all members have some sus things, but as example in Jiu or Handong cases those sus things don't really push the bar towards wlw
Then Siyeon doesn't have receipts either right? Not picking a fight. Genuinely curious.
Imo she does. Like I said, the chocolate story can be explained by other means so it isn't a receipt, even if it's extremely sus, maybe if she adds more context it will become a receipt (like saying it was a classmate, that she left it in their seat or something like that)
Of course, strong receipts are hard in kpop, so unless they dgaf anymore we usually have a collection of sus moments that made idols sus as a whole. But as an example for a receipt (at least that I consider one), like other anon said, she checks out women. We have her on video (also comments of fans but those are unreliable anecdotes), we have multiple cases of those videos, her face in some of those videos is obviously checking the whole body instead of focusing on an accesory or something specific which she sometimes does, and while some videos can be explained by her zoning out there's also others with enough context and a good angle that can't be explained in a non-fruity way. The comments she has made about women's bodies also reinforce that she does checks out women, because it shows what she's paying attention to
As a comparison, Handong is another member who sometimes seems to be checking out women, but she also has made it clear that she's really interested in fashion, and she's never made the type of comments Siyeon does afaik. She's also always complimenting fangirls clothes of fansigns if they catch her attention, so we know she pays attention to that
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I'm confused. What makes something a receipt vs a sus thing?
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I usually call a receip a fact that it's really hard or impossible to explain by other reasons and that we can confirm as real. Like Yoohyeon saying she likes all people, that's something said by her, on video, correctly translated, with enough context, and that it's hard to misunderstand with other reasons as to why she would say that in that way. So if someone says "Yooh is straight", we have a receipt of her that proves that statement wrong or at least makes it lose a lot of weight (unless they also present a receipt in line with their statement which opens a debate)
A sus thing on the other hand is something that can be explained by other reasons, but that in the context, adding up to other sus things or just because it's hard to define where's the line, makes you think it might indicate or hint at something being true. Like the Siyeon Valentine's story, she could be talking about a neighbourhood male friend, but the situation makes more sense in a school setting and at that time she was in an all-girls school, that's why it's sus and it also adds to a whole list of sus things related to her
A receipt is a strong sign, while a sus thing is a rather weak one. The receipt is more used as proof, while the sus things are like little flags that makes you pay more or less attention to certain people
Also, the sus things, unless is REALLY sus, have more or less weight depending on how many other sus things they have. So far, all members have some sus things, but as example in Jiu or Handong cases those sus things don't really push the bar towards wlw
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Then Siyeon doesn't have receipts either right? Not picking a fight. Genuinely curious.
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Imo she does. Like I said, the chocolate story can be explained by other means so it isn't a receipt, even if it's extremely sus, maybe if she adds more context it will become a receipt (like saying it was a classmate, that she left it in their seat or something like that)
Of course, strong receipts are hard in kpop, so unless they dgaf anymore we usually have a collection of sus moments that made idols sus as a whole. But as an example for a receipt (at least that I consider one), like other anon said, she checks out women. We have her on video (also comments of fans but those are unreliable anecdotes), we have multiple cases of those videos, her face in some of those videos is obviously checking the whole body instead of focusing on an accesory or something specific which she sometimes does, and while some videos can be explained by her zoning out there's also others with enough context and a good angle that can't be explained in a non-fruity way. The comments she has made about women's bodies also reinforce that she does checks out women, because it shows what she's paying attention to
As a comparison, Handong is another member who sometimes seems to be checking out women, but she also has made it clear that she's really interested in fashion, and she's never made the type of comments Siyeon does afaik. She's also always complimenting fangirls clothes of fansigns if they catch her attention, so we know she pays attention to that