Mamamoo; korean girl group

by **Guest** » 6 minutes ago

If I were the mod I’d delete that whole Hwasa back and forth because it was the most obvious trolling from the start. It was begging someone to take the bait and no one did so they responded to themselves to try and get the ball rolling. Mmm+ is mmm+ and they have done more than enough little gay things that a quick google search would be all it takes to see it.

by **Guest** » 40 minutes ago

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The Hwasa stan throwing a fit and still claiming unbias, amazing. Everyone else is saying, if you search for MMM+, you'll come across MMM info, and the most recent MMM controversy involves Hwasa. Nothing wrong about that, they're just facts. Your whole argument is "MMM+ are famous enough on their own" (which you seem to think as some kind of high praise to mask your bias) and that this fact would somehow disconnect Hwasa's name from them when some stupid ass government official is searching for their names. lol That just makes no fucking sense and makes you look like some desperate Hwasa stan trying to save her face, as it was said before.

You quite literally have shit for brains, but it tracks for your kind.

by **Guest** » Today, 18:43

The Hwasa stan throwing a fit and still claiming unbias, amazing. Everyone else is saying, if you search for MMM+, you'll come across MMM info, and the most recent MMM controversy involves Hwasa. Nothing wrong about that, they're just facts. Your whole argument is "MMM+ are famous enough on their own" (which you seem to think as some kind of high praise to mask your bias) and that this fact would somehow disconnect Hwasa's name from them when some stupid ass government official is searching for their names. lol That just makes no fucking sense and makes you look like some desperate Hwasa stan trying to save her face, as it was said before.

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Since when did Mamamoo+ touched their pussy and licked their fingers infront of university students aka, barely adults. The main reason Hwasa is investigated is because she did it infront of university students, no one cares if it's in their own concerts
Yes yes, blame Hwasa who is not even in this subunit.

Barely adults when the MC, who is a student there, was humping the floor on stage right before her performance.

And if you even have a slight idea of how law and order works, you would have known that it doesnt matter if it was their own concert, you just need someone to file a complain. Someone could have file a complaint over Shinee even if it was their own damn concert.

Meanwhile this forum turn around the praise the others for any vaguely suggestive thing they do on stage, calling them brave because Korea is conservative.

Uneducated AND a hypocrite.
DA
As much as I understand your rage (especially if you are a Hyejin stan), OP's idea is not that farfetched. The Malaysian government has been cracking down on foreign artists whose performances they consider go against public morals. A general search for Mamamoo+ does not filter out Mamamoo results - in fact, even Koreans occasionally wonder if Mamamoo have lost two members and continued as a duo. Now try to think about potentially controversial content that the Malaysian government would try to filter out. Surely, Moonsun have slapped each other's asses on stage and have tons of questionable homosexual behaviour on and off stage - but when does that ever make the news? Surely, Moonbyul has written the lesbian kpop anthem of the century, but did that ever make the news and would the Malaysian government even bother checking the lyrics for every single one of Mamamoo's 400-song discography? Meanwhile, Hwasa's university "controversy" is still ongoing and was all over the place when it first started - even English news talked about it. It's really easy to see how some conservative bigot looking for trouble wouldn't make the effort to look into it in detail and just go "uh oh one of these Mamamoo people is involved in 'obscene acts' " and that would be just enough for a permit denial. It's not fair to Hwasa nor to Moonsun but Hwasa DOES have the most "scandalous" track record.
The reply above this reply already included the points i wanted to address so i will not repeat it.

Honestly you can pepper your reply with all the 'it is not fair BUT...', 'as much as I understand' and 'surely' to act neutral BUT it will just reveal your own biasness in this matter.

As someone said above, there are other Acts that were rejected who do not have any big news recently either. I feel sorry for MS if you and some others are seriously attributing this to Hwasa, when just the mere fact that MMM+ are a well known enough foreign act, is a good enough reason for the Malaysian government to not grant the permit.
I believe you’re referring to me and I also said in my most recent post it also has nothing to do with MMM+ either because if you do a search on MMM+ and LGBT, it pulls up results on Mamamoo. As an OT4 group, their pro LGBT activist legacy was formed together and they’re recognized as that as a whole. FYI, if you search for Hwasa and LGBT, Mamamoo results come up right away too.

And let’s be real, government officials in charge of things like permits are only going to do the most basic searches like this and not going to bother knowing the ins/outs of every groups solo or subunits and their activities.

Don't see any disagreement in my reply to this. My reply is saying MMM+ as a foreign act is enough of a reason. That's all.

Whether they search MMM or MM+ specifically or whatever the results that come out of their searches is not relevant to my point.

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Since when did Mamamoo+ touched their pussy and licked their fingers infront of university students aka, barely adults. The main reason Hwasa is investigated is because she did it infront of university students, no one cares if it's in their own concerts
Yes yes, blame Hwasa who is not even in this subunit.

Barely adults when the MC, who is a student there, was humping the floor on stage right before her performance.

And if you even have a slight idea of how law and order works, you would have known that it doesnt matter if it was their own concert, you just need someone to file a complain. Someone could have file a complaint over Shinee even if it was their own damn concert.

Meanwhile this forum turn around the praise the others for any vaguely suggestive thing they do on stage, calling them brave because Korea is conservative.

Uneducated AND a hypocrite.
DA
As much as I understand your rage (especially if you are a Hyejin stan), OP's idea is not that farfetched. The Malaysian government has been cracking down on foreign artists whose performances they consider go against public morals. A general search for Mamamoo+ does not filter out Mamamoo results - in fact, even Koreans occasionally wonder if Mamamoo have lost two members and continued as a duo. Now try to think about potentially controversial content that the Malaysian government would try to filter out. Surely, Moonsun have slapped each other's asses on stage and have tons of questionable homosexual behaviour on and off stage - but when does that ever make the news? Surely, Moonbyul has written the lesbian kpop anthem of the century, but did that ever make the news and would the Malaysian government even bother checking the lyrics for every single one of Mamamoo's 400-song discography? Meanwhile, Hwasa's university "controversy" is still ongoing and was all over the place when it first started - even English news talked about it. It's really easy to see how some conservative bigot looking for trouble wouldn't make the effort to look into it in detail and just go "uh oh one of these Mamamoo people is involved in 'obscene acts' " and that would be just enough for a permit denial. It's not fair to Hwasa nor to Moonsun but Hwasa DOES have the most "scandalous" track record.
The reply above this reply already included the points i wanted to address so i will not repeat it.

Honestly you can pepper your reply with all the 'it is not fair BUT...', 'as much as I understand' and 'surely' to act neutral BUT it will just reveal your own biasness in this matter.

As someone said above, there are other Acts that were rejected who do not have any big news recently either. I feel sorry for MS if you and some others are seriously attributing this to Hwasa, when just the mere fact that MMM+ are a well known enough foreign act, is a good enough reason for the Malaysian government to not grant the permit.
The pot calling the kettle black when you say the anon is biased and you yourself drop a 'I feel sorry for MS when you're attributing this to Hwasa'. The comment you're replying to was pretty polite and pretty neutral but you're the one who seems to be desperate to save Hwasa's face in spite of MS and Mamamoo as a whole.

"The pot calling the kettle black when you say the anon is biased and you yourself drop a 'I feel sorry for MS when you're attributing this to Hwasa'."

Explain how the quote is bias? Did you even read the whole sentence? I feel sorry for MS because they are well known ON THEIR OWN. Which part is bias or a slight at MS? Anyone else thinking MS are not their own reason for the permit being rejected are the ones who are slighting them.

"The comment you're replying to was pretty polite and pretty neutral but you're the one who seems to be desperate to save Hwasa's face in spite of MS and Mamamoo as a whole."

Polite, maybe yes, neutral? Just the fact that the OP failed to consider other points in their analysis made it anything but neutral.

"but you're the one who seems to be desperate to save Hwasa's face in spite of MS and Mamamoo as a whole."

I don't even know what you are trying to say here. If i understood correctly, you think Hwasa is the reason and hence I'm trying to save her face by spiting on MS and MMM? If so, what a reveal, another one who believe that Hwasa is the reason and trying to act unbias omg. There is nothing to save and nothing in my reply is close to disrespecting ANY other member. The only people I'm shading are moos and as far as I'm aware, you are not MMM nor MMM+ nor any members and yes I can shade you as much as I want.

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Screw you for trying to pin this on Hwasa while Moonbyul and Solar have both displayed more mature things on stage as well.
Since when did Mamamoo+ touched their pussy and licked their fingers infront of university students aka, barely adults. The main reason Hwasa is investigated is because she did it infront of university students, no one cares if it's in their own concerts
Yes yes, blame Hwasa who is not even in this subunit.

Barely adults when the MC, who is a student there, was humping the floor on stage right before her performance.

And if you even have a slight idea of how law and order works, you would have known that it doesnt matter if it was their own concert, you just need someone to file a complain. Someone could have file a complaint over Shinee even if it was their own damn concert.

Meanwhile this forum turn around the praise the others for any vaguely suggestive thing they do on stage, calling them brave because Korea is conservative.

Uneducated AND a hypocrite.
DA
As much as I understand your rage (especially if you are a Hyejin stan), OP's idea is not that farfetched. The Malaysian government has been cracking down on foreign artists whose performances they consider go against public morals. A general search for Mamamoo+ does not filter out Mamamoo results - in fact, even Koreans occasionally wonder if Mamamoo have lost two members and continued as a duo. Now try to think about potentially controversial content that the Malaysian government would try to filter out. Surely, Moonsun have slapped each other's asses on stage and have tons of questionable homosexual behaviour on and off stage - but when does that ever make the news? Surely, Moonbyul has written the lesbian kpop anthem of the century, but did that ever make the news and would the Malaysian government even bother checking the lyrics for every single one of Mamamoo's 400-song discography? Meanwhile, Hwasa's university "controversy" is still ongoing and was all over the place when it first started - even English news talked about it. It's really easy to see how some conservative bigot looking for trouble wouldn't make the effort to look into it in detail and just go "uh oh one of these Mamamoo people is involved in 'obscene acts' " and that would be just enough for a permit denial. It's not fair to Hwasa nor to Moonsun but Hwasa DOES have the most "scandalous" track record.
The reply above this reply already included the points i wanted to address so i will not repeat it.

Honestly you can pepper your reply with all the 'it is not fair BUT...', 'as much as I understand' and 'surely' to act neutral BUT it will just reveal your own biasness in this matter.

As someone said above, there are other Acts that were rejected who do not have any big news recently either. I feel sorry for MS if you and some others are seriously attributing this to Hwasa, when just the mere fact that MMM+ are a well known enough foreign act, is a good enough reason for the Malaysian government to not grant the permit.

I believe you’re referring to me and I also said in my most recent post it also has nothing to do with MMM+ either because if you do a search on MMM+ and LGBT, it pulls up results on Mamamoo. As an OT4 group, their pro LGBT activist legacy was formed together and they’re recognized as that as a whole. FYI, if you search for Hwasa and LGBT, Mamamoo results come up right away too.

And let’s be real, government officials in charge of things like permits are only going to do the most basic searches like this and not going to bother knowing the ins/outs of every groups solo or subunits and their activities.

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Since when did Mamamoo+ touched their pussy and licked their fingers infront of university students aka, barely adults. The main reason Hwasa is investigated is because she did it infront of university students, no one cares if it's in their own concerts
Yes yes, blame Hwasa who is not even in this subunit.

Barely adults when the MC, who is a student there, was humping the floor on stage right before her performance.

And if you even have a slight idea of how law and order works, you would have known that it doesnt matter if it was their own concert, you just need someone to file a complain. Someone could have file a complaint over Shinee even if it was their own damn concert.

Meanwhile this forum turn around the praise the others for any vaguely suggestive thing they do on stage, calling them brave because Korea is conservative.

Uneducated AND a hypocrite.
DA
As much as I understand your rage (especially if you are a Hyejin stan), OP's idea is not that farfetched. The Malaysian government has been cracking down on foreign artists whose performances they consider go against public morals. A general search for Mamamoo+ does not filter out Mamamoo results - in fact, even Koreans occasionally wonder if Mamamoo have lost two members and continued as a duo. Now try to think about potentially controversial content that the Malaysian government would try to filter out. Surely, Moonsun have slapped each other's asses on stage and have tons of questionable homosexual behaviour on and off stage - but when does that ever make the news? Surely, Moonbyul has written the lesbian kpop anthem of the century, but did that ever make the news and would the Malaysian government even bother checking the lyrics for every single one of Mamamoo's 400-song discography? Meanwhile, Hwasa's university "controversy" is still ongoing and was all over the place when it first started - even English news talked about it. It's really easy to see how some conservative bigot looking for trouble wouldn't make the effort to look into it in detail and just go "uh oh one of these Mamamoo people is involved in 'obscene acts' " and that would be just enough for a permit denial. It's not fair to Hwasa nor to Moonsun but Hwasa DOES have the most "scandalous" track record.
The reply above this reply already included the points i wanted to address so i will not repeat it.

Honestly you can pepper your reply with all the 'it is not fair BUT...', 'as much as I understand' and 'surely' to act neutral BUT it will just reveal your own biasness in this matter.

As someone said above, there are other Acts that were rejected who do not have any big news recently either. I feel sorry for MS if you and some others are seriously attributing this to Hwasa, when just the mere fact that MMM+ are a well known enough foreign act, is a good enough reason for the Malaysian government to not grant the permit.
The pot calling the kettle black when you say the anon is biased and you yourself drop a 'I feel sorry for MS when you're attributing this to Hwasa'. The comment you're replying to was pretty polite and pretty neutral but you're the one who seems to be desperate to save Hwasa's face in spite of MS and Mamamoo as a whole.

ever since the thread was leaked on X by that ms-hating twit there's always at least one twit here patrolling just so nothing remotely bad can be said about hwasa even if they have a good point. remember how everyone who said they didn't like her song got reported and deleted so only good comments remained

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Screw you for trying to pin this on Hwasa while Moonbyul and Solar have both displayed more mature things on stage as well.
Since when did Mamamoo+ touched their pussy and licked their fingers infront of university students aka, barely adults. The main reason Hwasa is investigated is because she did it infront of university students, no one cares if it's in their own concerts
Yes yes, blame Hwasa who is not even in this subunit.

Barely adults when the MC, who is a student there, was humping the floor on stage right before her performance.

And if you even have a slight idea of how law and order works, you would have known that it doesnt matter if it was their own concert, you just need someone to file a complain. Someone could have file a complaint over Shinee even if it was their own damn concert.

Meanwhile this forum turn around the praise the others for any vaguely suggestive thing they do on stage, calling them brave because Korea is conservative.

Uneducated AND a hypocrite.
DA
As much as I understand your rage (especially if you are a Hyejin stan), OP's idea is not that farfetched. The Malaysian government has been cracking down on foreign artists whose performances they consider go against public morals. A general search for Mamamoo+ does not filter out Mamamoo results - in fact, even Koreans occasionally wonder if Mamamoo have lost two members and continued as a duo. Now try to think about potentially controversial content that the Malaysian government would try to filter out. Surely, Moonsun have slapped each other's asses on stage and have tons of questionable homosexual behaviour on and off stage - but when does that ever make the news? Surely, Moonbyul has written the lesbian kpop anthem of the century, but did that ever make the news and would the Malaysian government even bother checking the lyrics for every single one of Mamamoo's 400-song discography? Meanwhile, Hwasa's university "controversy" is still ongoing and was all over the place when it first started - even English news talked about it. It's really easy to see how some conservative bigot looking for trouble wouldn't make the effort to look into it in detail and just go "uh oh one of these Mamamoo people is involved in 'obscene acts' " and that would be just enough for a permit denial. It's not fair to Hwasa nor to Moonsun but Hwasa DOES have the most "scandalous" track record.
The reply above this reply already included the points i wanted to address so i will not repeat it.

Honestly you can pepper your reply with all the 'it is not fair BUT...', 'as much as I understand' and 'surely' to act neutral BUT it will just reveal your own biasness in this matter.

As someone said above, there are other Acts that were rejected who do not have any big news recently either. I feel sorry for MS if you and some others are seriously attributing this to Hwasa, when just the mere fact that MMM+ are a well known enough foreign act, is a good enough reason for the Malaysian government to not grant the permit.

The pot calling the kettle black when you say the anon is biased and you yourself drop a 'I feel sorry for MS when you're attributing this to Hwasa'. The comment you're replying to was pretty polite and pretty neutral but you're the one who seems to be desperate to save Hwasa's face in spite of MS and Mamamoo as a whole.

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Moonbyul and Solar aren’t kissing on stage and aren’t doing anything out of the norm than usual kpop groups do. Nothing homoerotic or dressing suggestive. The only logical reasoning is that because Hwasa is currently under investigation by the police from her “provocative” performance and because MMM+ using their name Mamamoo, they seen that and denied their permits

There is no other reasoning
Screw you for trying to pin this on Hwasa while Moonbyul and Solar have both displayed more mature things on stage as well.
Since when did Mamamoo+ touched their pussy and licked their fingers infront of university students aka, barely adults. The main reason Hwasa is investigated is because she did it infront of university students, no one cares if it's in their own concerts
Yes yes, blame Hwasa who is not even in this subunit.

Barely adults when the MC, who is a student there, was humping the floor on stage right before her performance.

And if you even have a slight idea of how law and order works, you would have known that it doesnt matter if it was their own concert, you just need someone to file a complain. Someone could have file a complaint over Shinee even if it was their own damn concert.

Meanwhile this forum turn around the praise the others for any vaguely suggestive thing they do on stage, calling them brave because Korea is conservative.

Uneducated AND a hypocrite.
DA
As much as I understand your rage (especially if you are a Hyejin stan), OP's idea is not that farfetched. The Malaysian government has been cracking down on foreign artists whose performances they consider go against public morals. A general search for Mamamoo+ does not filter out Mamamoo results - in fact, even Koreans occasionally wonder if Mamamoo have lost two members and continued as a duo. Now try to think about potentially controversial content that the Malaysian government would try to filter out. Surely, Moonsun have slapped each other's asses on stage and have tons of questionable homosexual behaviour on and off stage - but when does that ever make the news? Surely, Moonbyul has written the lesbian kpop anthem of the century, but did that ever make the news and would the Malaysian government even bother checking the lyrics for every single one of Mamamoo's 400-song discography? Meanwhile, Hwasa's university "controversy" is still ongoing and was all over the place when it first started - even English news talked about it. It's really easy to see how some conservative bigot looking for trouble wouldn't make the effort to look into it in detail and just go "uh oh one of these Mamamoo people is involved in 'obscene acts' " and that would be just enough for a permit denial. It's not fair to Hwasa nor to Moonsun but Hwasa DOES have the most "scandalous" track record.

The reply above this reply already included the points i wanted to address so i will not repeat it.

Honestly you can pepper your reply with all the 'it is not fair BUT...', 'as much as I understand' and 'surely' to act neutral BUT it will just reveal your own biasness in this matter.

As someone said above, there are other Acts that were rejected who do not have any big news recently either. I feel sorry for MS if you and some others are seriously attributing this to Hwasa, when just the mere fact that MMM+ are a well known enough foreign act, is a good enough reason for the Malaysian government to not grant the permit.

by **Guest** » Today, 12:28

FFS, as discussed before, this is about anti-LGBT not anti-lewd. That’s why they’re targeting bands like Coldplay.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/why ... /49viodvae

The immediate trigger was the 1975 doing a gay kiss and also speech as a POLITICAL act.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66275913
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/asia/mat ... index.html
“ Several LGBTQ activists told CNN the problem wasn’t just Healy’s kiss, but other parts of the performance including his speech before the kiss, during which he swore at the government while waving a wine bottle in one hand.”

It has nothing to do with any recent MMM+ or Hwasa acts. A simple google search of mamamoo and lgbt will show a history of activist support that’s enough to trigger a ban. Personally, I think such outstanding LGBT support is a badge of pride but of course there are sometimes penalties for it in the real world. I think eventually after all the political posturing ends and enough complaints roll in, Malaysia will quietly release the ban. But not now when it’s making worldwide headlines.

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Moonbyul and Solar aren’t kissing on stage and aren’t doing anything out of the norm than usual kpop groups do. Nothing homoerotic or dressing suggestive. The only logical reasoning is that because Hwasa is currently under investigation by the police from her “provocative” performance and because MMM+ using their name Mamamoo, they seen that and denied their permits

There is no other reasoning
Screw you for trying to pin this on Hwasa while Moonbyul and Solar have both displayed more mature things on stage as well.
Since when did Mamamoo+ touched their pussy and licked their fingers infront of university students aka, barely adults. The main reason Hwasa is investigated is because she did it infront of university students, no one cares if it's in their own concerts
Yes yes, blame Hwasa who is not even in this subunit.

Barely adults when the MC, who is a student there, was humping the floor on stage right before her performance.

And if you even have a slight idea of how law and order works, you would have known that it doesnt matter if it was their own concert, you just need someone to file a complain. Someone could have file a complaint over Shinee even if it was their own damn concert.

Meanwhile this forum turn around the praise the others for any vaguely suggestive thing they do on stage, calling them brave because Korea is conservative.

Uneducated AND a hypocrite.

DA
As much as I understand your rage (especially if you are a Hyejin stan), OP's idea is not that farfetched. The Malaysian government has been cracking down on foreign artists whose performances they consider go against public morals. A general search for Mamamoo+ does not filter out Mamamoo results - in fact, even Koreans occasionally wonder if Mamamoo have lost two members and continued as a duo. Now try to think about potentially controversial content that the Malaysian government would try to filter out. Surely, Moonsun have slapped each other's asses on stage and have tons of questionable homosexual behaviour on and off stage - but when does that ever make the news? Surely, Moonbyul has written the lesbian kpop anthem of the century, but did that ever make the news and would the Malaysian government even bother checking the lyrics for every single one of Mamamoo's 400-song discography? Meanwhile, Hwasa's university "controversy" is still ongoing and was all over the place when it first started - even English news talked about it. It's really easy to see how some conservative bigot looking for trouble wouldn't make the effort to look into it in detail and just go "uh oh one of these Mamamoo people is involved in 'obscene acts' " and that would be just enough for a permit denial. It's not fair to Hwasa nor to Moonsun but Hwasa DOES have the most "scandalous" track record.

by **Guest** » Today, 11:52

Are you replying to yourself?

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Moonbyul and Solar aren’t kissing on stage and aren’t doing anything out of the norm than usual kpop groups do. Nothing homoerotic or dressing suggestive. The only logical reasoning is that because Hwasa is currently under investigation by the police from her “provocative” performance and because MMM+ using their name Mamamoo, they seen that and denied their permits

There is no other reasoning
Screw you for trying to pin this on Hwasa while Moonbyul and Solar have both displayed more mature things on stage as well.
Since when did Mamamoo+ touched their pussy and licked their fingers infront of university students aka, barely adults. The main reason Hwasa is investigated is because she did it infront of university students, no one cares if it's in their own concerts

Yes yes, blame Hwasa who is not even in this subunit.

Barely adults when the MC, who is a student there, was humping the floor on stage right before her performance.

And if you even have a slight idea of how law and order works, you would have known that it doesnt matter if it was their own concert, you just need someone to file a complain. Someone could have file a complaint over Shinee even if it was their own damn concert.

Meanwhile this forum turn around the praise the others for any vaguely suggestive thing they do on stage, calling them brave because Korea is conservative.

Uneducated AND a hypocrite.

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Moonbyul and Solar aren’t kissing on stage and aren’t doing anything out of the norm than usual kpop groups do. Nothing homoerotic or dressing suggestive. The only logical reasoning is that because Hwasa is currently under investigation by the police from her “provocative” performance and because MMM+ using their name Mamamoo, they seen that and denied their permits

There is no other reasoning
Screw you for trying to pin this on Hwasa while Moonbyul and Solar have both displayed more mature things on stage as well.

Since when did Mamamoo+ touched their pussy and licked their fingers infront of university students aka, barely adults. The main reason Hwasa is investigated is because she did it infront of university students, no one cares if it's in their own concerts

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Seeing the rings together too is so cute. Both rings seem to have one part that’s silver and one part that’s bronze or gold. It makes me think even more that the rings are connected somehow like emotionally between them bc Byul likes silver and Yong likes gold.

Yeah I think they’re connected too. They also both have a cross necklace they’ve been wearing. One is smaller and the chain is longer but they’re almost the same. I thought it was the same one until someone pointed out the difference in size.

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 21:36

Seeing the rings together too is so cute. Both rings seem to have one part that’s silver and one part that’s bronze or gold. It makes me think even more that the rings are connected somehow like emotionally between them bc Byul likes silver and Yong likes gold.

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 20:34

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These two always share saliva with their food. But eating it directly on the teeth marks is another level, like doesn’t it taste different lol? I remember in the 2022 anniversary they shared the same straw for one of their drinks. I have friends that I’ve known and been close with longer than these two and we still, out of politeness, avoid mixing saliva.

Wasn’t there other instances in the last where either of them was sharing food with Whee/Hyej and they chose the option that would avoid saliva mixing?

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Do you think we’ll get invited to the wedding? x2

They look so good together
They really do look good together oml I just can't imagine byul dating anyone else like that's soulmates right there
But you can imagine yong dating someone else?

ofc not. is that not like a given lmao? should I mention all?

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Do you think we’ll get invited to the wedding? x2

They look so good together
They really do look good together oml I just can't imagine byul dating anyone else like that's soulmates right there

But you can imagine yong dating someone else?

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 13:50

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Do you think we’ll get invited to the wedding? x2

They look so good together

They really do look good together oml I just can't imagine byul dating anyone else like that's soulmates right there

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 11:34

Do you think we’ll get invited to the wedding? x2

They look so good together

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 11:14

Literally the first google hit that comes up when you type Mamamoo and lgbt

https://www.koreaboo.com/lists/times-ma ... ia-allies/

It makes sense why the authorities wouldn’t issue the permit after seeing results like this. Not that I agree with them obviously

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 11:11

I very much doubt government officials went so far as to google the set list and look up different songs meaning

It’s far more likely they simply did a google search. With the artists names and lgbtq attached and went to see if they were activists or lgbt friendly

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 08:58

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Moonbyul and Solar aren’t kissing on stage and aren’t doing anything out of the norm than usual kpop groups do. Nothing homoerotic or dressing suggestive. The only logical reasoning is that because Hwasa is currently under investigation by the police from her “provocative” performance and because MMM+ using their name Mamamoo, they seen that and denied their permits

There is no other reasoning

The ONLY logical reasoning is that Moonbyul is performing her song Shutdown which is explicitly about lesbian sex in a country where homosexuality is illegal.

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 06:29

Do you think they’d invite us to the wedding?

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 06:05

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I always put that argument in the they’re dating column. If it was your bestie not wanting to go on the ride you’d be like ok hold my purse and go eat a snack while I and our other friend go on the ride. I think I’ve posted about it here or on the other thread but if I were H I would’ve stopped talking to them for like a week. I would’ve been so annoyed at their dramatic asses. I would’ve called W in front of them to tell her how annoying they were behaving.

I’d love to hear the story from Hyejin’s pov. Imagine how many moonsun fights and hilarious moments she and Wheein would love to tell everyone about but have to keep private.

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 05:53

I always put that argument in the they’re dating column. If it was your bestie not wanting to go on the ride you’d be like ok hold my purse and go eat a snack while I and our other friend go on the ride. I think I’ve posted about it here or on the other thread but if I were H I would’ve stopped talking to them for like a week. I would’ve been so annoyed at their dramatic asses. I would’ve called W in front of them to tell her how annoying they were behaving.

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 04:56

If you think they’re a couple do you think they were dating back here? It’s such a couples fight to get pissed that your girlfriend won’t go on the ride with you and then both of you get upset and decide to leave. Even more so because Yong was going to go on it with Hyejin but was so upset Byul refused to ride that she rather go home instead of go on with Hyejin. And I think I’ve seen this ride before isn’t it the circular platform that spins and has seating on the perimeter and you have to try to stay seated as the ride technician tries to make the ride bounce you off your seat? It seems like it’s a very coupley ride because boyfriends try to hold down their girlfriends from flying off and girls try to flirt with whoever they’re interested in by pretending to accidentally fall all over them. It just seems like such a weird thing for Yong to get so upset with Byul for not wanting to go on. Feels like friends would be like fine then I’ll go on without you. But girlfriends are more like you have to come on with me. Sometimes I think they were dating without even realizing they were dating

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 03:03

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28 Sep 2023, 19:42
Moonbyul and Solar aren’t kissing on stage and aren’t doing anything out of the norm than usual kpop groups do. Nothing homoerotic or dressing suggestive. The only logical reasoning is that because Hwasa is currently under investigation by the police from her “provocative” performance and because MMM+ using their name Mamamoo, they seen that and denied their permits

There is no other reasoning

This is a sht take. Report. The malaysian govt is denying entry to other artists as well. Let's end it at that to avoid anymore ugly ass takes and nonsense quarrels.

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 01:28

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As a skeptic I have to say I think it’s so cute how they are together. From all of the little laughs of Byul at Yong’s silliness to Byul filming her so much. Colleague 1 still doing her part for the channel. It’s very sweet. It’s the kind of thing I don’t technically want to use as “evidence” of anything but it’s hard not to. Sure a good friend would help you out in this way but idk. It’s important not to generalize but anyway I think it’s sweet that Yong feels comfortable enough with Byul to tell her to grab her camera at any given moment and start filming her. As well as Byul going along with it.

Byul being very diligent in filming her but bit missing the chance to tease her

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 00:11

As a skeptic I have to say I think it’s so cute how they are together. From all of the little laughs of Byul at Yong’s silliness to Byul filming her so much. Colleague 1 still doing her part for the channel. It’s very sweet. It’s the kind of thing I don’t technically want to use as “evidence” of anything but it’s hard not to. Sure a good friend would help you out in this way but idk. It’s important not to generalize but anyway I think it’s sweet that Yong feels comfortable enough with Byul to tell her to grab her camera at any given moment and start filming her. As well as Byul going along with it.

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 22:23

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28 Sep 2023, 19:42
Moonbyul and Solar aren’t kissing on stage and aren’t doing anything out of the norm than usual kpop groups do. Nothing homoerotic or dressing suggestive. The only logical reasoning is that because Hwasa is currently under investigation by the police from her “provocative” performance and because MMM+ using their name Mamamoo, they seen that and denied their permits

There is no other reasoning

Screw you for trying to pin this on Hwasa while Moonbyul and Solar have both displayed more mature things on stage as well.

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 21:35

I have two guesses as to why

First the Malaysian government is purposefully googling/ looking up the artists and their connection to lgbt/lgbt activism and proceeding from what they find

This makes absolute sense and is logically how they would move forward after the past incident. They clearly saw a connection with Mamamoo bf lgbt and denied

Second is that corruption is rife in the Malaysian government and companies willing to pay a bribe are liking to be able to proceed while those that don’t will be denied

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 20:24

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Coldplay got denied too along with many others…. It’s just strict laws about foreigners because they want to support local artists. Foreign artists “don’t support their religion, their people or their government”. It’s deep but not that deep. The Malaysian government is cracking down harder

It’s been a long time since Coldplay was relevant enough to make big headlines but they once did for their LGBT support: https://www.dailydot.com/irl/super-bowl ... ropaganda/

It makes sense that Malaysia isn’t only clamping down on provocative stage acts but also groups with a past history of lgbt activism because The 1975 claimed the kiss as a political protest against anti-lgbt legislation.

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 19:49

Coldplay got denied too along with many others…. It’s just strict laws about foreigners because they want to support local artists. Foreign artists “don’t support their religion, their people or their government”. It’s deep but not that deep. The Malaysian government is cracking down harder

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 14:42

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Yo guys! It must just be a clown co-incidence but Yong has now posted her 2nd random vacation pic ( first australia and now bali on the 278th of each month)

SA. I meant 28th of each month...

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 14:38

Yo guys! It must just be a clown co-incidence but Yong has now posted her 2nd random vacation pic ( first australia and now bali on the 278th of each month)

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 14:05

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 13:46

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Do you think the Malaysian govt took one look at Shutdown MS version and said NOPE not on my watch

On a serious note sucks that we still have to deal with this shit in 2023
What happened?
Their permit for holding the concert was denied.
but we actually don't know the reason why it got denied?

No, but if you read the variety link I posted, there was a recent incident with a British band The 1975 having two guys kiss on stage which violates the anti-lgbt law there and caused a big shutdown of performances. So it’s thought they’re probably cracking down on any lgbt friendly concerts for a while. Not that they’ll come out and say permit denied cause of homophobia so we’ll never know for sure.

They’ve had concerts there before in Malaysia without problems so it’s doubtful RBW screwed up the permit process.

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 13:41

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Ngl I found her reaction to Yong’s tiny cut super cute

It’s insane how good they look just holding hands. And how good it looks Byul holding her hand right on her ring.

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 12:04

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28 Sep 2023, 11:02

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28 Sep 2023, 10:50

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27 Sep 2023, 23:41
Do you think the Malaysian govt took one look at Shutdown MS version and said NOPE not on my watch

On a serious note sucks that we still have to deal with this shit in 2023
What happened?
Their permit for holding the concert was denied.

but we actually don't know the reason why it got denied?

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 11:02

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28 Sep 2023, 10:50

Guest wrote: ↑
27 Sep 2023, 23:41
Do you think the Malaysian govt took one look at Shutdown MS version and said NOPE not on my watch

On a serious note sucks that we still have to deal with this shit in 2023
What happened?

Their permit for holding the concert was denied.

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 10:50

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27 Sep 2023, 23:41
Do you think the Malaysian govt took one look at Shutdown MS version and said NOPE not on my watch

On a serious note sucks that we still have to deal with this shit in 2023

What happened?

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 10:21

Ngl I found her reaction to Yong’s tiny cut super cute

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 03:17

I have no idea what’s happening there but everyone on Twitter reacts to it either like

or congrats to the new moms lol

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 02:44

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 02:29

I'm so happy for Hwasa, I can't believe how stable this song has been. I'm praying for a full album next year and looking forward to Wheein's as well

by **Guest** » 28 Sep 2023, 01:00

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27 Sep 2023, 23:41
Do you think the Malaysian govt took one look at Shutdown MS version and said NOPE not on my watch

On a serious note sucks that we still have to deal with this shit in 2023

Seems might be homophobia for real.
https://variety.com/2023/music/news/mal ... 235694500/

by **Guest** » 27 Sep 2023, 23:41

Do you think the Malaysian govt took one look at Shutdown MS version and said NOPE not on my watch

On a serious note sucks that we still have to deal with this shit in 2023

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