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Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » 33 minutes ago

taic wrote:
Today, 17:03
Ok idk what it is but something is definitely different with S face(?)
for sure i see her nose doesn't have a natural shape/form and i don't mean lip fillers, but i feel like there's also something about her chin & jaw that feels different.
No hate to PS or anything but she's starting to look like every other idol out there
Both did - S before Honey cb and its more noticeble now with recent weightloss
B's one is more apparent cause some parts didn't heal well and the fillers are making the problem areas stand out more. I hate how casual ps is in SK cause so many of them don't need it, but its so common its no a big deal if they did and if they like it thats the only thing that matters

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 21:07

Guest wrote:
Today, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
stfu already. nobody is aggressive, people are just sick and tired of you trying to stir shit once again. you've been doing this for days now in this thread.

and btw, posing as a shipper is a new low. don't forget it's not hard to see ip adresses and check previous posts.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 20:34

this whole "first ever concert" is kinda dumb too, Byul already had other concerts in the past by the way. Her fam went too for some of them (they didn't for this one).

Get your facts right. It's a milestone, but not the milestone you're trying to make it.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 20:16

Guest wrote:
Today, 18:55
Guest wrote:
Today, 18:09
Guest wrote:
Today, 17:31
Since we are talking about this topic, am I the only one notice that byul’s face is swollen unnaturally?

I’ve noticed that since two rabbits. At first I thought it was just edema, but when I saw some concept photos of the new solo album, the face was still swollen and I couldn’t ignore that.

(I know both moonsun did lip fillers, but filling the face is another topic)
(And no I am not a troll, just curious if I am the crazy one)
Not a cosmetic procedure expert, but I m guessing girls put on weight.
No expert here either but i do believe it could be simple fillers to prevent creasing & wrinkles in the future
It's just weight, she's fatter than for some comebacks, but in a healthy way. For Yong is the other way, she's starting to look thinner than in the past months.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 20:15

What is going on here

These are grown women not teenagers. Their work commitments mean nothing about their possible relationship. Schedules are set months in advance and put into place around other future schedules of the artist and the company and the staff, this isn’t some teenage couple who are able to schedule their lives around dating

One thing about both of them is they’re passionate and committed to work. Byul would probably find it horrendous if Yong ever threw away a work schedule to stay at one of her shows. She understands work commitments and career importance more than anyone. These are grown women, they aren’t bothered by their partner being too busy to stay for a 3+ hour show when they have a thousand other things going on (which revolve around other people’s schedules too by the way)

The fact that she was with her manager means she was doing something work related that day and still made time to swing by the concert to see Byul even for a bit. That is huge. If they were just friends she could have just sent something but she went and took time from her busy schedule to see Byul anyway

Wow

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 19:50

Guest wrote:
Today, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
But it's not strange **if she couldn't stay** which is what people can't seem to comprehend. That given their entire history of attending big moments for each other AND other times when they **couldn't** stay but showed up anyway, it's beyond reasonable to assume that she simply could not stay for the show. Sometimes adults have responsibilities and commitments that they cannot change. That is how life works sometimes. If you are STILL finding it "strange" and that it "must" mean they are only friends despite the fact that several people have pointed out that it's not strange at all, then you need to work on your powers of critical thinking, deduction, and reasoning. Or if you're trolling, at least get a new routine, this one is really tired.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 19:46

Guest wrote:
Today, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
Listen kid don't be so invested in fictional ships. Enjoy them together and don't get too deep, you'll only walk out disappointed when faced with reality that these are 2 women who we know nothing beyond their curated images. They are both amazing and insanely talented, might as well enjoy them as artists and enjoy the ship as any other kpop ship.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 19:42

Guest wrote:
Today, 18:23
Guest wrote:
Today, 18:14
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Today, 07:15
Ha is this what it appears to be? Is this Yongsun literally ordering Byul’s pizza the day of the concert? This is so interesting. I wonder if this is why she mentioned she got Byul dominoes. I think she would have mentioned it whether or not she was spotted by fans but it’s still funny. In my mind when I pictured her taking pizzas I assumed she had ordered them ahead of time or had the manager pick it up but of course she personally went to order it at the dominoes herself. With her cute little house slippers lol. Is that a supreme hoodie too? It doesnt technically mean anything but it’s cute she went so cozy which makes me think she really did just go to meet with her well before the show started to spend some time with her. And before the trolls even try anything this presents an interesting point which is if she didn’t go dressed to attend the show why would she have gone to deliver the pizzas herself? So either she couldn’t stay or she made a point of delivering them to spend time with Byul.

Same, I am mega confused why she just didn't attend? Put so much effort in pizzas and then decided to go back home ?
Why are people so stuck on this? It's not that hard to figure out. She obviously couldn't stay and there are a million reasons why that might be so. Another commitment? Something she couldn't get out of? Who knows, take your guess. But she still wanted to stop by to show support. Stopping by for ten minutes or whatever with a nice gesture for Byul and the crew when you can't stay for the show is a really nice, out of the way thing to do. Fixating on the fact that she didn't stay is strange, especially when you consider that they have both done this exact thing (the five minute visit when something else is going on and they have to leave) for each other in the past. "But the concert was important!!!" yes, which would indicate that she was **unable** to stay, not that she just showed up with pizzas and then was like "I'm not interested enough to stay for the rest of it."
Sorry to revive this nonsense topic but This is too much of a spin on the matter to deflect the weirdness of it. She didn't stay for gf's ever world tours concert. What their dynamics are bts no one knows, but on cam this does not look good especially because she mentioned she would go to byuls concert the day before to the fans outside the musical venue. It's only weird because why mention it, drop the pizzas and not stay. Ofcourse they are adults and life.

This is equally strange as shippers and moos alike expecting another grandiose show from byul for yongs 2nd musical and for her to show up with the gay hairdressers and yong to drop further tmi of turning down byuls dinner invite because she was on a diet.

We could say they are being lowkey but after a whole ass subunit that had insanely coupley photoshoots with dispatch for ffs this shit is just not adding up. You yourself are admitting that the concert was important so why not attend it ? Ofcourse I wonder about these things as a avid shipper of ms who believes they are together. Had I been a non shipper it would have been easier to dismiss both yongs concert absence and byuls lowkey vibe for yongs nodam

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 19:31

There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 18:55

Guest wrote:
Today, 18:09
Guest wrote:
Today, 17:31
Since we are talking about this topic, am I the only one notice that byul’s face is swollen unnaturally?

I’ve noticed that since two rabbits. At first I thought it was just edema, but when I saw some concept photos of the new solo album, the face was still swollen and I couldn’t ignore that.

(I know both moonsun did lip fillers, but filling the face is another topic)
(And no I am not a troll, just curious if I am the crazy one)
Not a cosmetic procedure expert, but I m guessing girls put on weight.
No expert here either but i do believe it could be simple fillers to prevent creasing & wrinkles in the future

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 18:42

Guest wrote:
Today, 18:14
Guest wrote:
Today, 07:15
Ha is this what it appears to be? Is this Yongsun literally ordering Byul’s pizza the day of the concert? This is so interesting. I wonder if this is why she mentioned she got Byul dominoes. I think she would have mentioned it whether or not she was spotted by fans but it’s still funny. In my mind when I pictured her taking pizzas I assumed she had ordered them ahead of time or had the manager pick it up but of course she personally went to order it at the dominoes herself. With her cute little house slippers lol. Is that a supreme hoodie too? It doesnt technically mean anything but it’s cute she went so cozy which makes me think she really did just go to meet with her well before the show started to spend some time with her. And before the trolls even try anything this presents an interesting point which is if she didn’t go dressed to attend the show why would she have gone to deliver the pizzas herself? So either she couldn’t stay or she made a point of delivering them to spend time with Byul.

Same, I am mega confused why she just didn't attend? Put so much effort in pizzas and then decided to go back home ?
Da. I know some of you dum dum are new but Yong bought pizza back in dsotm MV too. It is an excuse to meet byul in Yong playbook. Both of them have their own independent career and yes it hard for you normies to understand how moonsun acting so different from fanfic but they real human okay?

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 18:34

If you read the accounts of the cmoos who saw her at the pizza place she was not alone

She was with her manager. Which means she almost certainly was on her way to a schedule

Being drsssed down and casual means nothing, they will get glammed up at whatever photoshoot or filming they go to. The girls even had tv segments about how dressed down they are when they show up places, very casual

Plus she could also have had a recording session at rbw and maybe that producer had a full achulé and this was the only time to record this etc

Ok

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 18:23

Guest wrote:
Today, 18:14
Guest wrote:
Today, 07:15
Ha is this what it appears to be? Is this Yongsun literally ordering Byul’s pizza the day of the concert? This is so interesting. I wonder if this is why she mentioned she got Byul dominoes. I think she would have mentioned it whether or not she was spotted by fans but it’s still funny. In my mind when I pictured her taking pizzas I assumed she had ordered them ahead of time or had the manager pick it up but of course she personally went to order it at the dominoes herself. With her cute little house slippers lol. Is that a supreme hoodie too? It doesnt technically mean anything but it’s cute she went so cozy which makes me think she really did just go to meet with her well before the show started to spend some time with her. And before the trolls even try anything this presents an interesting point which is if she didn’t go dressed to attend the show why would she have gone to deliver the pizzas herself? So either she couldn’t stay or she made a point of delivering them to spend time with Byul.

Same, I am mega confused why she just didn't attend? Put so much effort in pizzas and then decided to go back home ?
Why are people so stuck on this? It's not that hard to figure out. She obviously couldn't stay and there are a million reasons why that might be so. Another commitment? Something she couldn't get out of? Who knows, take your guess. But she still wanted to stop by to show support. Stopping by for ten minutes or whatever with a nice gesture for Byul and the crew when you can't stay for the show is a really nice, out of the way thing to do. Fixating on the fact that she didn't stay is strange, especially when you consider that they have both done this exact thing (the five minute visit when something else is going on and they have to leave) for each other in the past. "But the concert was important!!!" yes, which would indicate that she was **unable** to stay, not that she just showed up with pizzas and then was like "I'm not interested enough to stay for the rest of it."

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 18:14

Guest wrote:
Today, 07:15
Ha is this what it appears to be? Is this Yongsun literally ordering Byul’s pizza the day of the concert? This is so interesting. I wonder if this is why she mentioned she got Byul dominoes. I think she would have mentioned it whether or not she was spotted by fans but it’s still funny. In my mind when I pictured her taking pizzas I assumed she had ordered them ahead of time or had the manager pick it up but of course she personally went to order it at the dominoes herself. With her cute little house slippers lol. Is that a supreme hoodie too? It doesnt technically mean anything but it’s cute she went so cozy which makes me think she really did just go to meet with her well before the show started to spend some time with her. And before the trolls even try anything this presents an interesting point which is if she didn’t go dressed to attend the show why would she have gone to deliver the pizzas herself? So either she couldn’t stay or she made a point of delivering them to spend time with Byul.

Same, I am mega confused why she just didn't attend? Put so much effort in pizzas and then decided to go back home ?

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 18:09

Guest wrote:
Today, 17:31
Since we are talking about this topic, am I the only one notice that byul’s face is swollen unnaturally?

I’ve noticed that since two rabbits. At first I thought it was just edema, but when I saw some concept photos of the new solo album, the face was still swollen and I couldn’t ignore that.

(I know both moonsun did lip fillers, but filling the face is another topic)
(And no I am not a troll, just curious if I am the crazy one)
Not a cosmetic procedure expert, but I m guessing girls put on weight.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 17:35

Guest wrote:
Today, 17:31
Since we are talking about this topic, am I the only one notice that byul’s face is swollen unnaturally?

I’ve noticed that since two rabbits. At first I thought it was just edema, but when I saw some concept photos of the new solo album, the face was still swollen and I couldn’t ignore that.

(I know both moonsun did lip fillers, but filling the face is another topic)
(And no I am not a troll, just curious if I am the crazy one)
For the record, I am not saying doing dermal fillers is unacceptable, but it just doesn’t work for her face (if she did)

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 17:31

Since we are talking about this topic, am I the only one notice that byul’s face is swollen unnaturally?

I’ve noticed that since two rabbits. At first I thought it was just edema, but when I saw some concept photos of the new solo album, the face was still swollen and I couldn’t ignore that.

(I know both moonsun did lip fillers, but filling the face is another topic)
(And no I am not a troll, just curious if I am the crazy one)

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 17:29

taic wrote:
Today, 17:03
Ok idk what it is but something is definitely different with S face(?)
for sure i see her nose doesn't have a natural shape/form and i don't mean lip fillers, but i feel like there's also something about her chin & jaw that feels different.
No hate to PS or anything but she's starting to look like every other idol out there
lmao please.
We’ve been getting unedited pics of Yong every other day for the past few months, taken from regular phone cameras from fans who aren’t fansites. Her face looks the same as it’s ever been and nothing like “every other idol out there”. If you’re using heavily edited promo pics as the base for your bullshit, then you probably shouldn’t be giving opinions on the subject to begin with. You’re either a troll, or just stupid.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 17:12

I do agree her face looks different a bit but I don’t think it was plastic surgery. Simply because there wasn’t really time to recover from anything

Before the musical she was constantly filming two shows and then the musical schedule she was in public every few days. Plus before everything started she took vacation pics showing her face so I don’t think it was then and before that she was busy in the public eye

My guess is it’s something non invasive like fillers or some it has a shorter/non existent recovery period. Which is good because it isn’t permanent

I don’t hope she backs away from it though she’s gorgeous as is eek

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 17:12

taic wrote:
Today, 17:03
Ok idk what it is but something is definitely different with S face(?)
for sure i see her nose doesn't have a natural shape/form and i don't mean lip fillers, but i feel like there's also something about her chin & jaw that feels different.
No hate to PS or anything but she's starting to look like every other idol out there
If you're talking about the fanclub concept photos you're aware that those are edited like crazy right? Just like basically all formal photoshoots for magazines, album inclusions, anything else. Makeup does magic too.

We've been seeing Solar every few days for the last few months for her musical. I'm not sure when you think she would have gone in to get major plastic surgery during that time, and watching the videos of her from the mini fanmeetings she doesn't look that different than before to me. Certainly not "like every other idol out there."

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by taic » Today, 17:03

Ok idk what it is but something is definitely different with S face(?)
for sure i see her nose doesn't have a natural shape/form and i don't mean lip fillers, but i feel like there's also something about her chin & jaw that feels different.
No hate to PS or anything but she's starting to look like every other idol out there

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 15:12

Guest wrote:
Today, 11:16
Guest wrote:
Today, 10:48
For the pizza Byul might have simply been not feeling ok enough to eat, nerves etc before the show and didn’t want to push it. It’s not like a group concert where members take over if you’re not well it’s a solo show

And even if she was feeling better by the end of the show the pizza might have been finished off by all the staff and crew or not safe to eat anymore. Remember her show was like 3 hours plus free
I think the answer could ve simpler: abs. We know Byul and sometimes Yongsun tends to exercise before concerts to show more her abs. She wouldn't eat if she planned to do that

Also, interesting picture, Yong really went there for the pizzas lol how sweet. I think it also covers why maybe we don't have a picture, not her most presentable moment. This always happens with them, somehow, after a while you know more, not by them, but because they are so loud that can't hide. They had to reveal this meeting because fans alreado knew about it!
Da
I'm not a performer but if it were me, I definitely wouldn't eat pizza before going on stage lol. Dough foods make a lot of people bloat, not to mention it's high in fats, calories etc. And you wanna look good on stage and feel energized - especially when you're showing off your midriff :lol:

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 11:46

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Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.
Common r------- h akgae defending her more than they respect black people. Just search nigerian auntie and korean sauna and see which one looks more like Hwasa :rofl:
Um I'm a Nigerian woman, my first and last name (if you knew me) would tell you. However, I didn't say I agreed with what the poster put, I just thanked them for the replies and reiterated why I was asking about the clothing. I know what traditional Nigerian/African (due to a lot of African countries clothing sharing similarities) look like. I also know what spa/sauna clothing look like based on my current S.Korea trip. What I won't do is fight on an anonymous board, for what? We're not going to agree anyways.
Sa I'm the anon who posted the tweets. I don't entirely know what I think of them myself. It's obviously not standard sauna clothing, they called it a "high-end sauna look with more care than usual" on screen and compared it to Hwasa in a more usual plain sauna outfit right before. They were clearly going for something striking and over the top especially if you look at the other women's outfits on the show too. I do think there's room to wonder if it was a direct reference to something African or if there were other influences too. Yuna the musician from Malaysia is known to wear ornate headwraps that she sometimes coordinates with vibrant outfits, there are some Filipina traditional costumes where women wear bright patterned headwraps too, just to name a couple examples I could think of off the top of my head. And yeah, like your original post suggested, there's a separate question after that over whether it was intended to make fun or somehow be a homage or something. Either way God knows Korean culture in general like a lot of cultures around the world has plenty of not so hidden racism, toward Southeast Asians in addition to Black people to be honest, and even if no one involved in picking that outfit actively intended harm the end result still could be insensitive.

For me personally since MBC called it a sauna inspired outfit on screen from the get go, before anyone called them out on it, and because as far as I can tell Hwasa didn't walk out saying something like "look how African I look", I would tend to give the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't trying to make African clothing the butt of a joke or otherwise be disrespectful. But you're of course welcome to decide for yourself how you feel about it and I'll leave the topic here. I do appreciate getting to share thoughts without name calling.
High end sauna look doesn't exist, and rich asian people tend to find these patterns tacky. Most rich asians especially koreans are super racist, if you think your normal korean is racist you're not prepared for rich koreans. Rich people had black people as slaves for a reason. That's why old money fashion doesn't scream in your face.

Homage or comedic effect. So it's blackfishing or racist cultural appropriation, none is a good look. She never apologized for it on her own and had MBC defend her name with a made up excuse. She doesn't need to say she looks african, everyone can see it, people pointed it looked weird and unnatural. Most nigerians that were not biased moomoos felt it was racist. Same as her durag. Same as her n word. All the thing she never apologized for. Let black people be mad at her for playing with our culture this way
DA I agree in letting people feel the way they do regarding the topic. You will have some Black/Africans say it was offensive and some will say they weren't bothered by it. I (the Nigerian poster a few above this one) believe in healthy discourse. It's honest convo and good convo imo.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 11:16

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Today, 10:48
For the pizza Byul might have simply been not feeling ok enough to eat, nerves etc before the show and didn’t want to push it. It’s not like a group concert where members take over if you’re not well it’s a solo show

And even if she was feeling better by the end of the show the pizza might have been finished off by all the staff and crew or not safe to eat anymore. Remember her show was like 3 hours plus free
I think the answer could ve simpler: abs. We know Byul and sometimes Yongsun tends to exercise before concerts to show more her abs. She wouldn't eat if she planned to do that

Also, interesting picture, Yong really went there for the pizzas lol how sweet. I think it also covers why maybe we don't have a picture, not her most presentable moment. This always happens with them, somehow, after a while you know more, not by them, but because they are so loud that can't hide. They had to reveal this meeting because fans alreado knew about it!

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 10:48

For the pizza Byul might have simply been not feeling ok enough to eat, nerves etc before the show and didn’t want to push it. It’s not like a group concert where members take over if you’re not well it’s a solo show

And even if she was feeling better by the end of the show the pizza might have been finished off by all the staff and crew or not safe to eat anymore. Remember her show was like 3 hours plus free

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 10:17

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Da there's a picture of the outfit in question here along with MBC's official response in a screenshot https://www.soompi.com/article/1415053w ... moos-hwasa
Anyway, you can form whatever opinion you want of course. But this thread is not for bashing any of the MMM girls.
Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.
Common r------- h akgae defending her more than they respect black people. Just search nigerian auntie and korean sauna and see which one looks more like Hwasa :rofl:
Um I'm a Nigerian woman, my first and last name (if you knew me) would tell you. However, I didn't say I agreed with what the poster put, I just thanked them for the replies and reiterated why I was asking about the clothing. I know what traditional Nigerian/African (due to a lot of African countries clothing sharing similarities) look like. I also know what spa/sauna clothing look like based on my current S.Korea trip. What I won't do is fight on an anonymous board, for what? We're not going to agree anyways.
Sa I'm the anon who posted the tweets. I don't entirely know what I think of them myself. It's obviously not standard sauna clothing, they called it a "high-end sauna look with more care than usual" on screen and compared it to Hwasa in a more usual plain sauna outfit right before. They were clearly going for something striking and over the top especially if you look at the other women's outfits on the show too. I do think there's room to wonder if it was a direct reference to something African or if there were other influences too. Yuna the musician from Malaysia is known to wear ornate headwraps that she sometimes coordinates with vibrant outfits, there are some Filipina traditional costumes where women wear bright patterned headwraps too, just to name a couple examples I could think of off the top of my head. And yeah, like your original post suggested, there's a separate question after that over whether it was intended to make fun or somehow be a homage or something. Either way God knows Korean culture in general like a lot of cultures around the world has plenty of not so hidden racism, toward Southeast Asians in addition to Black people to be honest, and even if no one involved in picking that outfit actively intended harm the end result still could be insensitive.

For me personally since MBC called it a sauna inspired outfit on screen from the get go, before anyone called them out on it, and because as far as I can tell Hwasa didn't walk out saying something like "look how African I look", I would tend to give the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't trying to make African clothing the butt of a joke or otherwise be disrespectful. But you're of course welcome to decide for yourself how you feel about it and I'll leave the topic here. I do appreciate getting to share thoughts without name calling.
High end sauna look doesn't exist, and rich asian people tend to find these patterns tacky. Most rich asians especially koreans are super racist, if you think your normal korean is racist you're not prepared for rich koreans. Rich people had black people as slaves for a reason. That's why old money fashion doesn't scream in your face.

Homage or comedic effect. So it's blackfishing or racist cultural appropriation, none is a good look. She never apologized for it on her own and had MBC defend her name with a made up excuse. She doesn't need to say she looks african, everyone can see it, people pointed it looked weird and unnatural. Most nigerians that were not biased moomoos felt it was racist. Same as her durag. Same as her n word. All the thing she never apologized for. Let black people be mad at her for playing with our culture this way

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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Da there's a picture of the outfit in question here along with MBC's official response in a screenshot https://www.soompi.com/article/1415053w ... moos-hwasa
Anyway, you can form whatever opinion you want of course. But this thread is not for bashing any of the MMM girls.
Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.
Common r------- h akgae defending her more than they respect black people. Just search nigerian auntie and korean sauna and see which one looks more like Hwasa :rofl:
Um I'm a Nigerian woman, my first and last name (if you knew me) would tell you. However, I didn't say I agreed with what the poster put, I just thanked them for the replies and reiterated why I was asking about the clothing. I know what traditional Nigerian/African (due to a lot of African countries clothing sharing similarities) look like. I also know what spa/sauna clothing look like based on my current S.Korea trip. What I won't do is fight on an anonymous board, for what? We're not going to agree anyways.
Sa I'm the anon who posted the tweets. I don't entirely know what I think of them myself. It's obviously not standard sauna clothing, they called it a "high-end sauna look with more care than usual" on screen and compared it to Hwasa in a more usual plain sauna outfit right before. They were clearly going for something striking and over the top especially if you look at the other women's outfits on the show too. I do think there's room to wonder if it was a direct reference to something African or if there were other influences too. Yuna the musician from Malaysia is known to wear ornate headwraps that she sometimes coordinates with vibrant outfits, there are some Filipina traditional costumes where women wear bright patterned headwraps too, just to name a couple examples I could think of off the top of my head. And yeah, like your original post suggested, there's a separate question after that over whether it was intended to make fun or somehow be a homage or something. Either way God knows Korean culture in general like a lot of cultures around the world has plenty of not so hidden racism, toward Southeast Asians in addition to Black people to be honest, and even if no one involved in picking that outfit actively intended harm the end result still could be insensitive.

For me personally since MBC called it a sauna inspired outfit on screen from the get go, before anyone called them out on it, and because as far as I can tell Hwasa didn't walk out saying something like "look how African I look", I would tend to give the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't trying to make African clothing the butt of a joke or otherwise be disrespectful. But you're of course welcome to decide for yourself how you feel about it and I'll leave the topic here. I do appreciate getting to share thoughts without name calling.
You're fine, we were having a normal convo. Like I had posted before, I don't think it was anything racist in least, I just found it a bit skeptical for them to call it sauna wear when it looks to be anything else but sauna wear imo. But nonetheless that other poster I guess was either trolling or being difficult on purpose.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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I don’t get why Byul didn’t eat the pizza though. Someone said Yong ordered 5 of them and all with sweet potato filled crusts or something. Is that why? She didn’t like the crust? I kind of felt bad when Yong mentioned Byul refused to eat it. But I hoped it was just bc she didn’t want to eat before performing. Saw someone who even hoped Byul didn’t eat it bc she felt bad Yong is dieting and couldn’t have any. I can’t make assumptions either way.
I don’t know why Byul didn’t eat the pizza but I assumed that like me she can’t eat when nervous.

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DA is that really a sauna look? It just looks nothing like sauna clothing imo (basing this off the centum spa land i went to). I have no issue with other ethnicities wearing other culture's traditional wear. I'm Nigerian in South Korea for a trip and I got to wear a hanbok for the first time, great experience. And before anyone attacks me, no I'm not calling Hwasa a racist. I'm just curious if it's really spa clothing because it really looks like a gele/headtie and a relaxed version of the women's dress.
Da there's a picture of the outfit in question here along with MBC's official response in a screenshot https://www.soompi.com/article/1415053w ... moos-hwasa
Anyway, you can form whatever opinion you want of course. But this thread is not for bashing any of the MMM girls.
Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.
Common r------- h akgae defending her more than they respect black people. Just search nigerian auntie and korean sauna and see which one looks more like Hwasa :rofl:
Um I'm a Nigerian woman, my first and last name (if you knew me) would tell you. However, I didn't say I agreed with what the poster put, I just thanked them for the replies and reiterated why I was asking about the clothing. I know what traditional Nigerian/African (due to a lot of African countries clothing sharing similarities) look like. I also know what spa/sauna clothing look like based on my current S.Korea trip. What I won't do is fight on an anonymous board, for what? We're not going to agree anyways.
Sa I'm the anon who posted the tweets. I don't entirely know what I think of them myself. It's obviously not standard sauna clothing, they called it a "high-end sauna look with more care than usual" on screen and compared it to Hwasa in a more usual plain sauna outfit right before. They were clearly going for something striking and over the top especially if you look at the other women's outfits on the show too. I do think there's room to wonder if it was a direct reference to something African or if there were other influences too. Yuna the musician from Malaysia is known to wear ornate headwraps that she sometimes coordinates with vibrant outfits, there are some Filipina traditional costumes where women wear bright patterned headwraps too, just to name a couple examples I could think of off the top of my head. And yeah, like your original post suggested, there's a separate question after that over whether it was intended to make fun or somehow be a homage or something. Either way God knows Korean culture in general like a lot of cultures around the world has plenty of not so hidden racism, toward Southeast Asians in addition to Black people to be honest, and even if no one involved in picking that outfit actively intended harm the end result still could be insensitive.

For me personally since MBC called it a sauna inspired outfit on screen from the get go, before anyone called them out on it, and because as far as I can tell Hwasa didn't walk out saying something like "look how African I look", I would tend to give the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't trying to make African clothing the butt of a joke or otherwise be disrespectful. But you're of course welcome to decide for yourself how you feel about it and I'll leave the topic here. I do appreciate getting to share thoughts without name calling.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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I don’t get why Byul didn’t eat the pizza though. Someone said Yong ordered 5 of them and all with sweet potato filled crusts or something. Is that why? She didn’t like the crust? I kind of felt bad when Yong mentioned Byul refused to eat it. But I hoped it was just bc she didn’t want to eat before performing. Saw someone who even hoped Byul didn’t eat it bc she felt bad Yong is dieting and couldn’t have any. I can’t make assumptions either way.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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Ha is this what it appears to be? Is this Yongsun literally ordering Byul’s pizza the day of the concert? This is so interesting. I wonder if this is why she mentioned she got Byul dominoes. I think she would have mentioned it whether or not she was spotted by fans but it’s still funny. In my mind when I pictured her taking pizzas I assumed she had ordered them ahead of time or had the manager pick it up but of course she personally went to order it at the dominoes herself. With her cute little house slippers lol. Is that a supreme hoodie too? It doesnt technically mean anything but it’s cute she went so cozy which makes me think she really did just go to meet with her well before the show started to spend some time with her. And before the trolls even try anything this presents an interesting point which is if she didn’t go dressed to attend the show why would she have gone to deliver the pizzas herself? So either she couldn’t stay or she made a point of delivering them to spend time with Byul.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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So jealous when MBC ENTERTAINMENT -themselves clarified hwasa was wearing a Korean sauna look nothing to do with a African dress - regardless ps I wear kaftans I’m not Arab are people not allowed to wear clothes - she also confirms she tans and likes her skin to be tan unlike traditional idols - Koreans come in all colours you are showing your own racist mentality and stereotypical views this isn’t a hwasa bashing forum if all you can criticise her on is the same baseless hate trolls from other fandoms use on Twitter just shows how fake fans are cluttered in the fandom. And someone will now call me a hakgae but go and google the crap you have written and google MBCS RESPONSE - people like you need to be sued for spreading false information about idols like hwasa
DA is that really a sauna look? It just looks nothing like sauna clothing imo (basing this off the centum spa land i went to). I have no issue with other ethnicities wearing other culture's traditional wear. I'm Nigerian in South Korea for a trip and I got to wear a hanbok for the first time, great experience. And before anyone attacks me, no I'm not calling Hwasa a racist. I'm just curious if it's really spa clothing because it really looks like a gele/headtie and a relaxed version of the women's dress.
Da there's a picture of the outfit in question here along with MBC's official response in a screenshot https://www.soompi.com/article/1415053w ... moos-hwasa

Here's a tweet showing the original subs by the TV show called it a "sauna look" even before the statement MBC issued:


And from that same twitter thread here are pictures of other Koreans with sauna headwraps:


Anyway, you can form whatever opinion you want of course. But this thread is not for bashing any of the MMM girls.
Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.
Common r------- h akgae defending her more than they respect black people. Just search nigerian auntie and korean sauna and see which one looks more like Hwasa :rofl:
Um I'm a Nigerian woman, my first and last name (if you knew me) would tell you. However, I didn't say I agreed with what the poster put, I just thanked them for the replies and reiterated why I was asking about the clothing. I know what traditional Nigerian/African (due to a lot of African countries clothing sharing similarities) look like. I also know what spa/sauna clothing look like based on my current S.Korea trip. What I won't do is fight on an anonymous board, for what? We're not going to agree anyways.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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So jealous when MBC ENTERTAINMENT -themselves clarified hwasa was wearing a Korean sauna look nothing to do with a African dress - regardless ps I wear kaftans I’m not Arab are people not allowed to wear clothes - she also confirms she tans and likes her skin to be tan unlike traditional idols - Koreans come in all colours you are showing your own racist mentality and stereotypical views this isn’t a hwasa bashing forum if all you can criticise her on is the same baseless hate trolls from other fandoms use on Twitter just shows how fake fans are cluttered in the fandom. And someone will now call me a hakgae but go and google the crap you have written and google MBCS RESPONSE - people like you need to be sued for spreading false information about idols like hwasa
DA is that really a sauna look? It just looks nothing like sauna clothing imo (basing this off the centum spa land i went to). I have no issue with other ethnicities wearing other culture's traditional wear. I'm Nigerian in South Korea for a trip and I got to wear a hanbok for the first time, great experience. And before anyone attacks me, no I'm not calling Hwasa a racist. I'm just curious if it's really spa clothing because it really looks like a gele/headtie and a relaxed version of the women's dress.
Da there's a picture of the outfit in question here along with MBC's official response in a screenshot https://www.soompi.com/article/1415053w ... moos-hwasa

Here's a tweet showing the original subs by the TV show called it a "sauna look" even before the statement MBC issued:


And from that same twitter thread here are pictures of other Koreans with sauna headwraps:


Anyway, you can form whatever opinion you want of course. But this thread is not for bashing any of the MMM girls.
Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.
Common r------- h akgae defending her more than they respect black people. Just search nigerian auntie and korean sauna and see which one looks more like Hwasa :rofl:

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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Do you speak enough korean to know this? If so, pretty strange that you're still a fan of Hwasa when you should know all the racist things she's said about black people that haven't been translated.
Ma'am are you daft? Her lyrics are cringe and childish regardless of the language it was written in. Also, are you black? Cause I sure as hell am and I can point out everything the "group" has done or do you think your fav is innocent?
Hwasa has gone far beyond what the group and other members have done when it comes to racism and stereotyping but you wouldn't know that because you don't know the language and would probably make excuses for her. There are quite a few twits that are also barbs so that's the kind of idiocy we're dealing with here. Nicki loves sexual predators, Hwasa loves pretending to be a stereotype of a black woman (in her own words).
That one time she show up looking more African than my aunties :mask: twits will twist this as appreciation but this is ariana grande blackfishing level.
https://x.com/bbyjimjams/status/1286893 ... 51648?s=20

She wore a native headress during a fansign back in 2018 too but it was soon deleted

So jealous when MBC ENTERTAINMENT -themselves clarified hwasa was wearing a Korean sauna look nothing to do with a African dress - regardless ps I wear kaftans I’m not Arab are people not allowed to wear clothes - she also confirms she tans and likes her skin to be tan unlike traditional idols - Koreans come in all colours you are showing your own racist mentality and stereotypical views this isn’t a hwasa bashing forum if all you can criticise her on is the same baseless hate trolls from other fandoms use on Twitter just shows how fake fans are cluttered in the fandom. And someone will now call me a hakgae but go and google the crap you have written and google MBCS RESPONSE - people like you need to be sued for spreading false information about idols like hwasa
MBC apologizing for her was her being cowardly and negligent of her actions. It doesn't look anything like korean sauna look, you fooling yourself if the first thing you think wasn't traditional african wardrobe because it was closer to that than sauna look. MBC wasn't the one deciding their outfits like the other MCs came with their own outfits same as Hwasa. Koreans come in all colors is hilarious because Hwasa is fully korean and trying to be more african than my ancestors.
Also look at her intent, they dressed up as weird or crazy looking. Sauna is so common in korea, and people who met her in the elevator knew they were shooting comedic content with that look. She did that on purpose to look crazy and weird like African

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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Do you know if there are translations of Hwasa’s lives? I’ve read speculations of her having a dog for a year + postponing the world tour till 2025! But none of mmm translators translated her lives
She mentioned she already introduced her daughter and that's how the guessing game set on the dog being that said 'daughter'. The pic was speculated to be from a year ago or so.

Can't remember anything from the tour, but it's a given at this point that she pushed back her music again. So it makes sense.
Thank you, I thought she elaborated a bit on these. Hopefully, she releases something soon, her discography is very small :(
Ye, it's a hard year if you like her music. Complicated situation, personally I think she might be in the middle of a burn out or something similar, she's been looking a bit out of it in her latest shows and not a fan of this fanmeet tour with the same setlist she's been using for a year and more for festivals. But I guess it is what it is.

Let's hope for the best patiently.
I have been thinking the opposite maybe I’m delusional but all signs are pointing to her new album coming out soon. Her most recent performances have given me an indication she’s going for fun dance - I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea but I’m happy to see her go down a upbeat type of music - yes maria and I’m a b we’re dance but the lyrics were still quite sad.

I know lots of people didn’t enjoy ilmb or even somebody with loco much but I was actually pleased her dancing queens show she mentioned how she didn’t have much dance numbers. So I expect a full on pop dance but hwasa twist album. Maybe she worries about how well it will do but hope she realises it doesn’t matter

Ps have seen her interwine ilmb with chilli and Maria and I enjoy that combo on her performances - but I also like how when she does a festival she does a mamamoo set maybe you think it’s same old but it’s enjoyable to see her bring mamamoo to another country in a small format she loves the girls and mamamoo

Not too bothered about this fan tour but if it it means hearing her bsides makes me happy

Both solar and hwasa I believe need to have an album each to do a world tour

Hwasa did mention she came to 22 songs in her head as to why it became a fan concert vs a fan meet and I think we forget her mini album maria and gp mini album had altogether 10 songs including her recent singles and colabs it brings it to 24 songs I had to google lol

Solar for me is the member that needs to give us a full album I’ve loved her come backs but her albums have been 3 songs max haven’t they ? I know she’s doing other work but I would love to see her do a calm pop album showcasing her vocals

Both moonbyul and wheein are mega houses say what you want they have released a lot of music moonbyul in particular which I’m so proud of and love seeing both their tours and how they sing their songs and sets

Hwasa and Solar give us albums please and we can see your word tours next year


Bitter s weet im saying all this about each of them I just want mamamoo to have a cb in my heart sick of all the trolls they need to do a finger up at the haters

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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So jealous when MBC ENTERTAINMENT -themselves clarified hwasa was wearing a Korean sauna look nothing to do with a African dress - regardless ps I wear kaftans I’m not Arab are people not allowed to wear clothes - she also confirms she tans and likes her skin to be tan unlike traditional idols - Koreans come in all colours you are showing your own racist mentality and stereotypical views this isn’t a hwasa bashing forum if all you can criticise her on is the same baseless hate trolls from other fandoms use on Twitter just shows how fake fans are cluttered in the fandom. And someone will now call me a hakgae but go and google the crap you have written and google MBCS RESPONSE - people like you need to be sued for spreading false information about idols like hwasa
DA is that really a sauna look? It just looks nothing like sauna clothing imo (basing this off the centum spa land i went to). I have no issue with other ethnicities wearing other culture's traditional wear. I'm Nigerian in South Korea for a trip and I got to wear a hanbok for the first time, great experience. And before anyone attacks me, no I'm not calling Hwasa a racist. I'm just curious if it's really spa clothing because it really looks like a gele/headtie and a relaxed version of the women's dress.
Da there's a picture of the outfit in question here along with MBC's official response in a screenshot https://www.soompi.com/article/1415053w ... moos-hwasa

Here's a tweet showing the original subs by the TV show called it a "sauna look" even before the statement MBC issued:


And from that same twitter thread here are pictures of other Koreans with sauna headwraps:


Anyway, you can form whatever opinion you want of course. But this thread is not for bashing any of the MMM girls.
Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.

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Moonbyul akgaes will hate anyone that defend hwasa some of you cannot stand seeing a woman as confident as her not give a F. And own herself you talk about women empowerment but hwasa intimidates some of you moonbyul akgaes
They’ve also deluded themselves into thinking she’s the most talented mmm member and tried to drag H for her dancing in my con for byul’s song when MB can’t dance to save her life , not even the supposed “foot work” heavy bg songs they swear by. Girl is stiff, sings like a dying goat, has a horrible rap flow and mediocre rap lyrics that peaked at a 4th grade level of language and composition.
Do you speak enough korean to know this? If so, pretty strange that you're still a fan of Hwasa when you should know all the racist things she's said about black people that haven't been translated.
Ma'am are you daft? Her lyrics are cringe and childish regardless of the language it was written in. Also, are you black? Cause I sure as hell am and I can point out everything the "group" has done or do you think your fav is innocent?
Hwasa has gone far beyond what the group and other members have done when it comes to racism and stereotyping but you wouldn't know that because you don't know the language and would probably make excuses for her. There are quite a few twits that are also barbs so that's the kind of idiocy we're dealing with here. Nicki loves sexual predators, Hwasa loves pretending to be a stereotype of a black woman (in her own words).
Oh based on your comment alone, I know exactly which "moo" you are on twitter. Better go lock your account now.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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So jealous when MBC ENTERTAINMENT -themselves clarified hwasa was wearing a Korean sauna look nothing to do with a African dress - regardless ps I wear kaftans I’m not Arab are people not allowed to wear clothes - she also confirms she tans and likes her skin to be tan unlike traditional idols - Koreans come in all colours you are showing your own racist mentality and stereotypical views this isn’t a hwasa bashing forum if all you can criticise her on is the same baseless hate trolls from other fandoms use on Twitter just shows how fake fans are cluttered in the fandom. And someone will now call me a hakgae but go and google the crap you have written and google MBCS RESPONSE - people like you need to be sued for spreading false information about idols like hwasa
DA is that really a sauna look? It just looks nothing like sauna clothing imo (basing this off the centum spa land i went to). I have no issue with other ethnicities wearing other culture's traditional wear. I'm Nigerian in South Korea for a trip and I got to wear a hanbok for the first time, great experience. And before anyone attacks me, no I'm not calling Hwasa a racist. I'm just curious if it's really spa clothing because it really looks like a gele/headtie and a relaxed version of the women's dress.
Da there's a picture of the outfit in question here along with MBC's official response in a screenshot https://www.soompi.com/article/1415053w ... moos-hwasa

Here's a tweet showing the original subs by the TV show called it a "sauna look" even before the statement MBC issued:


And from that same twitter thread here are pictures of other Koreans with sauna headwraps:


Anyway, you can form whatever opinion you want of course. But this thread is not for bashing any of the MMM girls.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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Do you know if there are translations of Hwasa’s lives? I’ve read speculations of her having a dog for a year + postponing the world tour till 2025! But none of mmm translators translated her lives
She mentioned she already introduced her daughter and that's how the guessing game set on the dog being that said 'daughter'. The pic was speculated to be from a year ago or so.

Can't remember anything from the tour, but it's a given at this point that she pushed back her music again. So it makes sense.
Thank you, I thought she elaborated a bit on these. Hopefully, she releases something soon, her discography is very small :(
Ye, it's a hard year if you like her music. Complicated situation, personally I think she might be in the middle of a burn out or something similar, she's been looking a bit out of it in her latest shows and not a fan of this fanmeet tour with the same setlist she's been using for a year and more for festivals. But I guess it is what it is.

Let's hope for the best patiently.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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Pathetic troll unloved by anyone is playing with themselves again…

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

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Do you know if there are translations of Hwasa’s lives? I’ve read speculations of her having a dog for a year + postponing the world tour till 2025! But none of mmm translators translated her lives
She mentioned she already introduced her daughter and that's how the guessing game set on the dog being that said 'daughter'. The pic was speculated to be from a year ago or so.

Can't remember anything from the tour, but it's a given at this point that she pushed back her music again. So it makes sense.
Thank you, I thought she elaborated a bit on these. Hopefully, she releases something soon, her discography is very small :(

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Do you speak enough korean to know this? If so, pretty strange that you're still a fan of Hwasa when you should know all the racist things she's said about black people that haven't been translated.
Ma'am are you daft? Her lyrics are cringe and childish regardless of the language it was written in. Also, are you black? Cause I sure as hell am and I can point out everything the "group" has done or do you think your fav is innocent?
Hwasa has gone far beyond what the group and other members have done when it comes to racism and stereotyping but you wouldn't know that because you don't know the language and would probably make excuses for her. There are quite a few twits that are also barbs so that's the kind of idiocy we're dealing with here. Nicki loves sexual predators, Hwasa loves pretending to be a stereotype of a black woman (in her own words).
That one time she show up looking more African than my aunties :mask: twits will twist this as appreciation but this is ariana grande blackfishing level.
https://x.com/bbyjimjams/status/1286893 ... 51648?s=20

She wore a native headress during a fansign back in 2018 too but it was soon deleted

So jealous when MBC ENTERTAINMENT -themselves clarified hwasa was wearing a Korean sauna look nothing to do with a African dress - regardless ps I wear kaftans I’m not Arab are people not allowed to wear clothes - she also confirms she tans and likes her skin to be tan unlike traditional idols - Koreans come in all colours you are showing your own racist mentality and stereotypical views this isn’t a hwasa bashing forum if all you can criticise her on is the same baseless hate trolls from other fandoms use on Twitter just shows how fake fans are cluttered in the fandom. And someone will now call me a hakgae but go and google the crap you have written and google MBCS RESPONSE - people like you need to be sued for spreading false information about idols like hwasa
DA is that really a sauna look? It just looks nothing like sauna clothing imo (basing this off the centum spa land i went to). I have no issue with other ethnicities wearing other culture's traditional wear. I'm Nigerian in South Korea for a trip and I got to wear a hanbok for the first time, great experience. And before anyone attacks me, no I'm not calling Hwasa a racist. I'm just curious if it's really spa clothing because it really looks like a gele/headtie and a relaxed version of the women's dress.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:20

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Yesterday, 23:14
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Yesterday, 20:19
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Yesterday, 01:01
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26 Mar 2024, 20:28
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They’ve also deluded themselves into thinking she’s the most talented mmm member and tried to drag H for her dancing in my con for byul’s song when MB can’t dance to save her life , not even the supposed “foot work” heavy bg songs they swear by. Girl is stiff, sings like a dying goat, has a horrible rap flow and mediocre rap lyrics that peaked at a 4th grade level of language and composition.
Do you speak enough korean to know this? If so, pretty strange that you're still a fan of Hwasa when you should know all the racist things she's said about black people that haven't been translated.
Ma'am are you daft? Her lyrics are cringe and childish regardless of the language it was written in. Also, are you black? Cause I sure as hell am and I can point out everything the "group" has done or do you think your fav is innocent?
Hwasa has gone far beyond what the group and other members have done when it comes to racism and stereotyping but you wouldn't know that because you don't know the language and would probably make excuses for her. There are quite a few twits that are also barbs so that's the kind of idiocy we're dealing with here. Nicki loves sexual predators, Hwasa loves pretending to be a stereotype of a black woman (in her own words).
That one time she show up looking more African than my aunties :mask: twits will twist this as appreciation but this is ariana grande blackfishing level.
https://x.com/bbyjimjams/status/1286893 ... 51648?s=20

She wore a native headress during a fansign back in 2018 too but it was soon deleted

So jealous when MBC ENTERTAINMENT -themselves clarified hwasa was wearing a Korean sauna look nothing to do with a African dress - regardless ps I wear kaftans I’m not Arab are people not allowed to wear clothes - she also confirms she tans and likes her skin to be tan unlike traditional idols - Koreans come in all colours you are showing your own racist mentality and stereotypical views this isn’t a hwasa bashing forum if all you can criticise her on is the same baseless hate trolls from other fandoms use on Twitter just shows how fake fans are cluttered in the fandom. And someone will now call me a hakgae but go and google the crap you have written and google MBCS RESPONSE - people like you need to be sued for spreading false information about idols like hwasa

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:15

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:33
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Yesterday, 20:19
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Yesterday, 01:01
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26 Mar 2024, 20:28
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26 Mar 2024, 15:52


They’ve also deluded themselves into thinking she’s the most talented mmm member and tried to drag H for her dancing in my con for byul’s song when MB can’t dance to save her life , not even the supposed “foot work” heavy bg songs they swear by. Girl is stiff, sings like a dying goat, has a horrible rap flow and mediocre rap lyrics that peaked at a 4th grade level of language and composition.
Do you speak enough korean to know this? If so, pretty strange that you're still a fan of Hwasa when you should know all the racist things she's said about black people that haven't been translated.
Ma'am are you daft? Her lyrics are cringe and childish regardless of the language it was written in. Also, are you black? Cause I sure as hell am and I can point out everything the "group" has done or do you think your fav is innocent?
Hwasa has gone far beyond what the group and other members have done when it comes to racism and stereotyping but you wouldn't know that because you don't know the language and would probably make excuses for her. There are quite a few twits that are also barbs so that's the kind of idiocy we're dealing with here. Nicki loves sexual predators, Hwasa loves pretending to be a stereotype of a black woman (in her own words).
Da both of you fucking take it back to Twitter. This thread is not for bashing any of the members, it's in the rules in the very first post.

Clearly you are no fan of mamamoo or hwasa as you would know mamamoo have done 1 questionable issue and hwasa has sang one lyric and they didn’t mean it this was years ago. All the rumours after this have been baseless and clarified stop chatting rubbish on a mamamoo thread moos know what every member has gone through - sick of fake fans on this page this isn’t a mamamoo troll page go somewhere else like Twitter to talk crap

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:14

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:19
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 01:01
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 20:28
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26 Mar 2024, 15:52
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26 Mar 2024, 15:23


Moonbyul akgaes will hate anyone that defend hwasa some of you cannot stand seeing a woman as confident as her not give a F. And own herself you talk about women empowerment but hwasa intimidates some of you moonbyul akgaes
They’ve also deluded themselves into thinking she’s the most talented mmm member and tried to drag H for her dancing in my con for byul’s song when MB can’t dance to save her life , not even the supposed “foot work” heavy bg songs they swear by. Girl is stiff, sings like a dying goat, has a horrible rap flow and mediocre rap lyrics that peaked at a 4th grade level of language and composition.
Do you speak enough korean to know this? If so, pretty strange that you're still a fan of Hwasa when you should know all the racist things she's said about black people that haven't been translated.
Ma'am are you daft? Her lyrics are cringe and childish regardless of the language it was written in. Also, are you black? Cause I sure as hell am and I can point out everything the "group" has done or do you think your fav is innocent?
Hwasa has gone far beyond what the group and other members have done when it comes to racism and stereotyping but you wouldn't know that because you don't know the language and would probably make excuses for her. There are quite a few twits that are also barbs so that's the kind of idiocy we're dealing with here. Nicki loves sexual predators, Hwasa loves pretending to be a stereotype of a black woman (in her own words).
That one time she show up looking more African than my aunties :mask: twits will twist this as appreciation but this is ariana grande blackfishing level.
https://x.com/bbyjimjams/status/1286893 ... 51648?s=20

She wore a native headress during a fansign back in 2018 too but it was soon deleted

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:13

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Yesterday, 21:53
Do you know if there are translations of Hwasa’s lives? I’ve read speculations of her having a dog for a year + postponing the world tour till 2025! But none of mmm translators translated her lives
She mentioned she already introduced her daughter and that's how the guessing game set on the dog being that said 'daughter'. The pic was speculated to be from a year ago or so.

Can't remember anything from the tour, but it's a given at this point that she pushed back her music again. So it makes sense.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 21:53

Do you know if there are translations of Hwasa’s lives? I’ve read speculations of her having a dog for a year + postponing the world tour till 2025! But none of mmm translators translated her lives

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:36

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This is actually funny. Gotta watch both clips.
The contrast is hilarious. It's really sweet how Moonbyul and her dancers are comfortable joking around together like that on stage.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:33

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:19
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 01:01
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 20:28
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 15:52
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 15:23


Moonbyul akgaes will hate anyone that defend hwasa some of you cannot stand seeing a woman as confident as her not give a F. And own herself you talk about women empowerment but hwasa intimidates some of you moonbyul akgaes
They’ve also deluded themselves into thinking she’s the most talented mmm member and tried to drag H for her dancing in my con for byul’s song when MB can’t dance to save her life , not even the supposed “foot work” heavy bg songs they swear by. Girl is stiff, sings like a dying goat, has a horrible rap flow and mediocre rap lyrics that peaked at a 4th grade level of language and composition.
Do you speak enough korean to know this? If so, pretty strange that you're still a fan of Hwasa when you should know all the racist things she's said about black people that haven't been translated.
Ma'am are you daft? Her lyrics are cringe and childish regardless of the language it was written in. Also, are you black? Cause I sure as hell am and I can point out everything the "group" has done or do you think your fav is innocent?
Hwasa has gone far beyond what the group and other members have done when it comes to racism and stereotyping but you wouldn't know that because you don't know the language and would probably make excuses for her. There are quite a few twits that are also barbs so that's the kind of idiocy we're dealing with here. Nicki loves sexual predators, Hwasa loves pretending to be a stereotype of a black woman (in her own words).
Da both of you fucking take it back to Twitter. This thread is not for bashing any of the members, it's in the rules in the very first post.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:19

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 01:01
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 20:28
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 15:52
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 15:23
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26 Mar 2024, 11:30
Are all hakgaes dumb and assholes? It's the worst combination. Can't even read what other akgaes actually say and they use unbelievable trolling to get even.
Moonbyul akgaes will hate anyone that defend hwasa some of you cannot stand seeing a woman as confident as her not give a F. And own herself you talk about women empowerment but hwasa intimidates some of you moonbyul akgaes
They’ve also deluded themselves into thinking she’s the most talented mmm member and tried to drag H for her dancing in my con for byul’s song when MB can’t dance to save her life , not even the supposed “foot work” heavy bg songs they swear by. Girl is stiff, sings like a dying goat, has a horrible rap flow and mediocre rap lyrics that peaked at a 4th grade level of language and composition.
Do you speak enough korean to know this? If so, pretty strange that you're still a fan of Hwasa when you should know all the racist things she's said about black people that haven't been translated.
Ma'am are you daft? Her lyrics are cringe and childish regardless of the language it was written in. Also, are you black? Cause I sure as hell am and I can point out everything the "group" has done or do you think your fav is innocent?
Hwasa has gone far beyond what the group and other members have done when it comes to racism and stereotyping but you wouldn't know that because you don't know the language and would probably make excuses for her. There are quite a few twits that are also barbs so that's the kind of idiocy we're dealing with here. Nicki loves sexual predators, Hwasa loves pretending to be a stereotype of a black woman (in her own words).

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