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Disagre on everything. First, I think right now you have a lot of validation seekers, but in reverse, which it's just not healthy. In the past people enjoyed finding validation of gay hints, but now it's witch hunting, starved for any indication of the girls being queerbaiters or worst. You keep pressing it's moonsun shippers, but it's not because it affects individually, just look at you denying how Yong expressing how she knows women isn't a sign of her interest for women being way more prevalent than any other thing.
Yongsun has a lot of receipts. This isn't mere feminism, it's rooted in her persona.
I think a problem that I have is people do not judge idols by south korea standards. The way that she speaks isn't flirty or "look at the way she knows women". That's normal for them. The way they speak or touch each other. Look at any girl group and you'll see that. Because if that's an indicator of being gay then all korean girl groups are gay.
So yes, I refuse to believe that the video with her friend Chorong is any kind of indicator of her being gay. Also, most female idols shy away from any possible dating scandal, so they shut down most questions regarding men and dating, and really only answer the ideal type one because it's safe enough.
You can believe Solar has plenty and damming receipts, and that's your proof of her being gay. That's fine. I just don't share the view and beliefs as you.
Also just to clarify, I didn't bring up queerbaiting of any kind. I understand idols play up ships that fans like, I don't hold that against them. I do have a problem with people running in years acting like their insider tea is the absolute truth, and people should believe them because only they've seen the super secret korean group chats. So yes, I do like the skepticism that has grown towards them.
This could be said for both sides. Thinking the shippers are delusional but not the hets trolling constantly? The same weirdo that trolls here tried doing it on -. They created multiple accounts and tried their bs over there but the mod called them out lmao
You're right, it can be said for both sides. Idon't think anyone is delusional for thinking Solar is gay. I think it's rather delusional to believe information dropped by anyone that can't truly be proven. Unlike the business/group info that was dropped and can be quantified at some point. However, and I hate to put it this way but, assuming someone is straight is the standard in South Korea. This is, based on my experience there, due to their beliefs, religions, ideals etc. Does the gay community exist there, yes but amount of gay one would see in the US isn't what you'll see over there.
Also I don't speak about trolls because I let them die out, they don't deserve my attention, or anyone's attention for that matter. A troll is troll. All in all, whether you believe Solar is a gay woman, or I believe that she's a straight woman, is fine as long as we can have cordial discussions.
This is for the skeptic anon, the problem most of us have wit you stand is you think the general consensus is to think they are gay or in the case of moonsun together, because someone came and said "I bought tea about them". That's where you're wrong. Most people here who still believe they are don't really based that opinion on anons who talk about chats, it's because we've been following them as fans for a long time and this is like sharing a class for 12 years, you don't know the full story, but if you look at the rest of people in the room for a long time, you learn some things, for some us those things we learnt are for now leaning to them being gay (and to wheesa more into the het lane, for Hyejin mostly without question).
People aren't always sheep, there is something called critical thinking too. You can of course believe whatever you want, but don't pretend you have a higher morale or a better observation skill, right now you're just choosing to discard any signs and keep skeptic and that's fine, but that's you closing your eyes.
I do not believe everyone that thinks MB and Solar are together is due to insider tea. Everyone has their reasons. However I do believe that there are gullible people here who do get played by those that drop supposed insider tea regardless of the topic.
I do not see myself on any kind of moral high ground because why should I? We're all just giving our reasoning for the basis of our speculation regarding a woman's sexuality. What you view as signs of proof, won't be seen the same way by someone else. That's alright. The way that you have followed them for years and believe them to be a couple, is the same way someone could do the exact same and not see them as a couple. Both are valid. If you view it as me "ignoring the signs", it is what it is.
But I will end it at that. I don't want to clog up the thread, not cause discourse. People are free to speak their mind, but I probably should've spoilered my convo.
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Disagre on everything. First, I think right now you have a lot of validation seekers, but in reverse, which it's just not healthy. In the past people enjoyed finding validation of gay hints, but now it's witch hunting, starved for any indication of the girls being queerbaiters or worst. You keep pressing it's moonsun shippers, but it's not because it affects individually, just look at you denying how Yong expressing how she knows women isn't a sign of her interest for women being way more prevalent than any other thing.
Yongsun has a lot of receipts. This isn't mere feminism, it's rooted in her persona.
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I think a problem that I have is people do not judge idols by south korea standards. The way that she speaks isn't flirty or "look at the way she knows women". That's normal for them. The way they speak or touch each other. Look at any girl group and you'll see that. Because if that's an indicator of being gay then all korean girl groups are gay.
So yes, I refuse to believe that the video with her friend Chorong is any kind of indicator of her being gay. Also, most female idols shy away from any possible dating scandal, so they shut down most questions regarding men and dating, and really only answer the ideal type one because it's safe enough.
You can believe Solar has plenty and damming receipts, and that's your proof of her being gay. That's fine. I just don't share the view and beliefs as you.
Also just to clarify, I didn't bring up queerbaiting of any kind. I understand idols play up ships that fans like, I don't hold that against them. I do have a problem with people running in years acting like their insider tea is the absolute truth, and people should believe them because only they've seen the super secret korean group chats. So yes, I do like the skepticism that has grown towards them.
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This could be said for both sides. Thinking the shippers are delusional but not the hets trolling constantly? The same weirdo that trolls here tried doing it on -. They created multiple accounts and tried their bs over there but the mod called them out lmao
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You're right, it can be said for both sides. Idon't think anyone is delusional for thinking Solar is gay. I think it's rather delusional to believe information dropped by anyone that can't truly be proven. Unlike the business/group info that was dropped and can be quantified at some point. However, and I hate to put it this way but, assuming someone is straight is the standard in South Korea. This is, based on my experience there, due to their beliefs, religions, ideals etc. Does the gay community exist there, yes but amount of gay one would see in the US isn't what you'll see over there.
Also I don't speak about trolls because I let them die out, they don't deserve my attention, or anyone's attention for that matter. A troll is troll. All in all, whether you believe Solar is a gay woman, or I believe that she's a straight woman, is fine as long as we can have cordial discussions.
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This is for the skeptic anon, the problem most of us have wit you stand is you think the general consensus is to think they are gay or in the case of moonsun together, because someone came and said "I bought tea about them". That's where you're wrong. Most people here who still believe they are don't really based that opinion on anons who talk about chats, it's because we've been following them as fans for a long time and this is like sharing a class for 12 years, you don't know the full story, but if you look at the rest of people in the room for a long time, you learn some things, for some us those things we learnt are for now leaning to them being gay (and to wheesa more into the het lane, for Hyejin mostly without question).
People aren't always sheep, there is something called critical thinking too. You can of course believe whatever you want, but don't pretend you have a higher morale or a better observation skill, right now you're just choosing to discard any signs and keep skeptic and that's fine, but that's you closing your eyes.
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I do not believe everyone that thinks MB and Solar are together is due to insider tea. Everyone has their reasons. However I do believe that there are gullible people here who do get played by those that drop supposed insider tea regardless of the topic.
I do not see myself on any kind of moral high ground because why should I? We're all just giving our reasoning for the basis of our speculation regarding a woman's sexuality. What you view as signs of proof, won't be seen the same way by someone else. That's alright. The way that you have followed them for years and believe them to be a couple, is the same way someone could do the exact same and not see them as a couple. Both are valid. If you view it as me "ignoring the signs", it is what it is.
But I will end it at that. I don't want to clog up the thread, not cause discourse. People are free to speak their mind, but I probably should've spoilered my convo.