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Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » 43 minutes ago

Guest wrote:
Today, 04:55
Guest wrote:
Today, 04:09
Oh the troll could only come up with lol weirdo lmao sad

Yong and Yongkey have met Butthole (not a typo) at least a few times and never did Yong let that slip. Just goes to show she may seem really spontaneous with the things she tells us but she definitely knows what she can and shouldn’t say. Makes the things she does offer up really interesting bc it makes me wonder why she lets us know certain things. Like the Moon Yongsun comment and others. Fact is they both know they’re heavily shipped. Theyre very aware of this. If they’re not dating I can definitely see them using moonsun as cover especially if Moonbyul is dating another woman. But if all 4 of them can maintain a doggy a secret for 4 years I’m sure they could maintain moonsuns relationship a secret if they are a couple. Yong just seems to care less and less about keeping it a secret I guess?
Exactly I love the fact that hyejin has told fans she’s had a doggy for 4 years - but didn’t live with her until her allergies got better which could have been recently. It was at her sisters and I respect that. She didn’t have to but we will be seeing more of doggy so cute. Fact that Ofcourse all the members know they’ve been on dog walks with Yong. All the trolls and solo akgaes that have been writing comments about each member should realise by now those girls are close. There’s plenty they haven’t told us which is fine. They don’t have to. But whenever you insult any of the girls or compare them to your fav remember the girls would defend each other against any of the toxic fans including you . I’m just happy that hyejins live demonstrates their love for eachother yet again - but gives me hope of them giving me a song this year

Ps hyejin has said before fall album - Yong is looking at spring - so we are getting each members album before winter potentially does that mean a group comeback december 2024 wishfully thinking they announce mamamoo the company for group activities lol
Op. Anon I’m not going to respond to any of that mmm comeback talk bc I don’t want to feed the trolls that never seem to be satiated in here. But yes I love hearing about these Hwasun moments so much. It makes my heart happy. If all that akgae yelling on Twitter wasn’t so destructive to the fanbase it would be hilarious how just about everything the akgaes are constantly yelling about ends up being the opposite of reality lol. Butthole (once again not a typo) is so cute and I’d love to see her playing with Yongkey but I love that they keep these moments to themselves too.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » 53 minutes ago

Guest wrote:
Today, 04:23
Guest wrote:
Today, 04:09
Oh the troll could only come up with lol weirdo lmao sad

Yong and Yongkey have met Butthole (not a typo) at least a few times and never did Yong let that slip. Just goes to show she may seem really spontaneous with the things she tells us but she definitely knows what she can and shouldn’t say. Makes the things she does offer up really interesting bc it makes me wonder why she lets us know certain things. Like the Moon Yongsun comment and others. Fact is they both know they’re heavily shipped. Theyre very aware of this. If they’re not dating I can definitely see them using moonsun as cover especially if Moonbyul is dating another woman. But if all 4 of them can maintain a doggy a secret for 4 years I’m sure they could maintain moonsuns relationship a secret if they are a couple. Yong just seems to care less and less about keeping it a secret I guess?
It's known that Yong let her actions speak volumes and part of that is choosing what to share and what to hide. Just take the pizzas and the concert for example, she especially said that the pizza was everything she would share about the visit with fans. When Yongsun talks we better pay attention.
Op. yeah that was my point. Her words really do say something I just have no clue what. Because whether or not it’s fun to think of we have two main possibilities: she either shares as much as she does because they know we know and they feel comfortable enough with glass closeting to a small extent, or they’re very secretive about their dating lives keeping it air locked like anon said. I want to believe it’s the former but sometimes I feel so dumb thinking it’s even possible. It feels very childish to think they’re sincerely letting us in on their lives if they’re really a couple. That doesn’t mean it’s not possible but sometimes I think I’m just falling for the parasocial aspect of believing that we really know them and that they’re really trusting us with something this delicate. Although they don’t even show or tell us that much if you really think about it. The thing I think gives them away so much to me and most of us is the stuff they can’t control as much like body language + physical comfort and intimacy + the way they look at each other. How often they mention each other as well, almost as if it’s so natural they don’t even realize they’re doing it at times. The way Yong always gestures to her right shoulder when talking about Byul is another one. Anyway Im only being honest. I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything, just saying my thoughts. Some here are convinced and that’s fine but some of us aren’t sure just hopeful. I’m also not writing this to make it into another round of debates and business anon and whatever else.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 04:55

Guest wrote:
Today, 04:09
Oh the troll could only come up with lol weirdo lmao sad

Yong and Yongkey have met Butthole (not a typo) at least a few times and never did Yong let that slip. Just goes to show she may seem really spontaneous with the things she tells us but she definitely knows what she can and shouldn’t say. Makes the things she does offer up really interesting bc it makes me wonder why she lets us know certain things. Like the Moon Yongsun comment and others. Fact is they both know they’re heavily shipped. Theyre very aware of this. If they’re not dating I can definitely see them using moonsun as cover especially if Moonbyul is dating another woman. But if all 4 of them can maintain a doggy a secret for 4 years I’m sure they could maintain moonsuns relationship a secret if they are a couple. Yong just seems to care less and less about keeping it a secret I guess?
Exactly I love the fact that hyejin has told fans she’s had a doggy for 4 years - but didn’t live with her until her allergies got better which could have been recently. It was at her sisters and I respect that. She didn’t have to but we will be seeing more of doggy so cute. Fact that Ofcourse all the members know they’ve been on dog walks with Yong. All the trolls and solo akgaes that have been writing comments about each member should realise by now those girls are close. There’s plenty they haven’t told us which is fine. They don’t have to. But whenever you insult any of the girls or compare them to your fav remember the girls would defend each other against any of the toxic fans including you . I’m just happy that hyejins live demonstrates their love for eachother yet again - but gives me hope of them giving me a song this year

Ps hyejin has said before fall album - Yong is looking at spring - so we are getting each members album before winter potentially does that mean a group comeback december 2024 wishfully thinking they announce mamamoo the company for group activities lol

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 04:55

Guest wrote:
Today, 04:22
Guest wrote:
Today, 04:09
Oh the troll could only come up with lol weirdo lmao sad

Yong and Yongkey have met Butthole (not a typo) at least a few times and never did Yong let that slip. Just goes to show she may seem really spontaneous with the things she tells us but she definitely knows what she can and shouldn’t say. Makes the things she does offer up really interesting bc it makes me wonder why she lets us know certain things. Like the Moon Yongsun comment and others. Fact is they both know they’re heavily shipped. Theyre very aware of this. If they’re not dating I can definitely see them using moonsun as cover especially if Moonbyul is dating another woman. But if all 4 of them can maintain a doggy a secret for 4 years I’m sure they could maintain moonsuns relationship a secret if they are a couple. Yong just seems to care less and less about keeping it a secret I guess?
Interesting point. But it could also mean they are both dating other people or they are dating each other. We know yong attended sodam's play during the travel variety show, only because sodam mentioned it. Same with her attending OckJooHyun's musical. (Atleast we know a bit about yong byu; on the other hand we know nothing) Over the years I have to the conclusion that ms is their cover from prying eyes. Because the amount of name dropping for byul yong does lately and same done by byul during smn led us all to believe that they were a couple but there are these other aspects of their life which are locked airtight.
Man! you hit the nail on the head, I was literally thinking the same a few days back.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 04:23

Guest wrote:
Today, 04:09
Oh the troll could only come up with lol weirdo lmao sad

Yong and Yongkey have met Butthole (not a typo) at least a few times and never did Yong let that slip. Just goes to show she may seem really spontaneous with the things she tells us but she definitely knows what she can and shouldn’t say. Makes the things she does offer up really interesting bc it makes me wonder why she lets us know certain things. Like the Moon Yongsun comment and others. Fact is they both know they’re heavily shipped. Theyre very aware of this. If they’re not dating I can definitely see them using moonsun as cover especially if Moonbyul is dating another woman. But if all 4 of them can maintain a doggy a secret for 4 years I’m sure they could maintain moonsuns relationship a secret if they are a couple. Yong just seems to care less and less about keeping it a secret I guess?
It's known that Yong let her actions speak volumes and part of that is choosing what to share and what to hide. Just take the pizzas and the concert for example, she especially said that the pizza was everything she would share about the visit with fans. When Yongsun talks we better pay attention.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 04:22

Guest wrote:
Today, 04:09
Oh the troll could only come up with lol weirdo lmao sad

Yong and Yongkey have met Butthole (not a typo) at least a few times and never did Yong let that slip. Just goes to show she may seem really spontaneous with the things she tells us but she definitely knows what she can and shouldn’t say. Makes the things she does offer up really interesting bc it makes me wonder why she lets us know certain things. Like the Moon Yongsun comment and others. Fact is they both know they’re heavily shipped. Theyre very aware of this. If they’re not dating I can definitely see them using moonsun as cover especially if Moonbyul is dating another woman. But if all 4 of them can maintain a doggy a secret for 4 years I’m sure they could maintain moonsuns relationship a secret if they are a couple. Yong just seems to care less and less about keeping it a secret I guess?
Interesting point. But it could also mean they are both dating other people or they are dating each other. We know yong attended sodam's play during the travel variety show, only because sodam mentioned it. Same with her attending OckJooHyun's musical. (Atleast we know a bit about yong byu; on the other hand we know nothing) Over the years I have to the conclusion that ms is their cover from prying eyes. Because the amount of name dropping for byul yong does lately and same done by byul during smn led us all to believe that they were a couple but there are these other aspects of their life which are locked airtight.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 04:19

Not surprised that akgae that can’t quote is still trying their bs

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 04:09

Oh the troll could only come up with lol weirdo lmao sad

Yong and Yongkey have met Butthole (not a typo) at least a few times and never did Yong let that slip. Just goes to show she may seem really spontaneous with the things she tells us but she definitely knows what she can and shouldn’t say. Makes the things she does offer up really interesting bc it makes me wonder why she lets us know certain things. Like the Moon Yongsun comment and others. Fact is they both know they’re heavily shipped. Theyre very aware of this. If they’re not dating I can definitely see them using moonsun as cover especially if Moonbyul is dating another woman. But if all 4 of them can maintain a doggy a secret for 4 years I’m sure they could maintain moonsuns relationship a secret if they are a couple. Yong just seems to care less and less about keeping it a secret I guess?

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 03:54

Guest wrote:
Today, 03:44
Guest wrote:
Today, 00:30
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:46
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
Listen kid don't be so invested in fictional ships. Enjoy them together and don't get too deep, you'll only walk out disappointed when faced with reality that these are 2 women who we know nothing beyond their curated images. They are both amazing and insanely talented, might as well enjoy them as artists and enjoy the ship as any other kpop ship.
Exactly. The problem here is people are so blinded by their shipping that they explain away or bury the parts that do not fit the narrative, which is insane BTW, because how deeply delulu can one get over couple of strangers relationship. Both sides of fans have done this over the years.

Sometimes it's because shipping is also tied to the assumptions about their sexualities which fans would love to be true and I get it because it's gives us visibility as a sexual minority as fans
.

However No point being invested so much in a kpop ship, just enjoy the music and occasional thirst traps the girls put out. They are both amazing artists and people as the anon above put it. Enjoy those aspects
The ship is in dire straits for sure in 2024, quite a difference from 2023. But yes many small things dont add up, but that doesn't mean we enjoy the ship any less :p Objectively speaking, the girls are in their 30s they want their own lives and careers and identities now, that much is clear. Shippers will have to swallow the bitter pill of reduced interactions like this. Sad but needed. We still have mmm+ they seem to have an upcoming ost coming out soon, we can enjoy their banter together, just less of it as they get busy with their own stuff.

Explains both yong and byul biased solos in here. Tbh any possibility of the ship being true evaporated when the sub unit was announced, from there on it was a feeding frenzy for the shippers. And now we get people questioning their absence at each others solo activites and shippers going at each others throats in here.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 03:44

Of course it’s that fucking weirdo playing two sides try to insinuate again. Name calling out of nowhere when everyone just having a convo and no one is being aggressive.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 03:44

Guest wrote:
Today, 00:30
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:46
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
Listen kid don't be so invested in fictional ships. Enjoy them together and don't get too deep, you'll only walk out disappointed when faced with reality that these are 2 women who we know nothing beyond their curated images. They are both amazing and insanely talented, might as well enjoy them as artists and enjoy the ship as any other kpop ship.
Exactly. The problem here is people are so blinded by their shipping that they explain away or bury the parts that do not fit the narrative, which is insane BTW, because how deeply delulu can one get over couple of strangers relationship. Both sides of fans have done this over the years.

Sometimes it's because shipping is also tied to the assumptions about their sexualities which fans would love to be true and I get it because it's gives us visibility as a sexual minority as fans
.

However No point being invested so much in a kpop ship, just enjoy the music and occasional thirst traps the girls put out. They are both amazing artists and people as the anon above put it. Enjoy those aspects
Explains both yong and byul biased solos in here. Tbh any possibility of the ship being true evaporated when the sub unit was announced, from there on it was a feeding frenzy for the shippers. And now we get people questioning their absence at each others solo activites and shippers going at each others throats in here.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 03:37

Guest wrote:
Today, 01:04
The only people making a big deal out of the tiny glimpse they saw of two strangers lives are those of you who insist her having dropped off pizzas means something strange is going on lol. Do you people not hear yourselves? Whether concern trolling or not it’s so silly of you.

People are saying we have no idea how long Yong stayed or if she had other schedules. Yet you want to call this being overtly aggressive, too invested, and blinded? People literally saying they don’t know how long she stayed or why she may not have stayed longer and you want to frame this as being defensive shippers or Solar akgaes. You’re making a huge deal out of something you know nothing about other than that Yong showed up with pizzas that she took the time to order and pick up herself. You’re creating conflict out of it while accusing people of trying to bury the parts that dont fit a narrative. Trying to suggest this points to there being something wrong between them if they’re a couple or that it’s proof they’re just friends lol. Youre the one desperately trying to use this as an excuse to draw conclusions about two people you know next to nothing about and accusing those who aren’t making a big deal out of it of trying to make excuses. Be real. No one falls for your shit. If theyre not a couple we’ll find out at some point. Hyejin hid a whole dog from us for 4 years. A dog that’s even met and went on walks with Yongkey lol. They know how to live privately. No one here is truly under the impression we know everything about them other than you trolls who insist on concern trolling like this because you get so pressed that people enjoy discussing the tiny possibility that they’re a couple. How big of a loser are you that a handful of people ship them enough to talk about this possibility in a little thread in the only lesbian forum on the entire internet?
lol. weirdo

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 03:07

Guest wrote:
Today, 01:04
The only people making a big deal out of the tiny glimpse they saw of two strangers lives are those of you who insist her having dropped off pizzas means something strange is going on lol. Do you people not hear yourselves? Whether concern trolling or not it’s so silly of you.

People are saying we have no idea how long Yong stayed or if she had other schedules. Yet you want to call this being overtly aggressive, too invested, and blinded? People literally saying they don’t know how long she stayed or why she may not have stayed longer and you want to frame this as being defensive shippers or Solar akgaes. You’re making a huge deal out of something you know nothing about other than that Yong showed up with pizzas that she took the time to order and pick up herself. You’re creating conflict out of it while accusing people of trying to bury the parts that dont fit a narrative. Trying to suggest this points to there being something wrong between them if they’re a couple or that it’s proof they’re just friends lol. Youre the one desperately trying to use this as an excuse to draw conclusions about two people you know next to nothing about and accusing those who aren’t making a big deal out of it of trying to make excuses. Be real. No one falls for your shit. If theyre not a couple we’ll find out at some point. Hyejin hid a whole dog from us for 4 years. A dog that’s even met and went on walks with Yongkey lol. They know how to live privately. No one here is truly under the impression we know everything about them other than you trolls who insist on concern trolling like this because you get so pressed that people enjoy discussing the tiny possibility that they’re a couple. How big of a loser are you that a handful of people ship them enough to talk about this possibility in a little thread in the only lesbian forum on the entire internet?
You’ve summed up everything I’ve wanted to post but I’m too sleep deprived to do so.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by MissX » Today, 02:48

Hi, can someone translate what Byul says on minute 7:30 of the video, please!! And thank you in advance.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 02:30

Whee's bkk concert sales are said to be quite poor. 😔IIrc, bkk leg of my con was also low compared to other Asia stops.

https://twitter.com/qwheeinflower/statu ... 0ieOw&s=19

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 01:57

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 23:17
taic wrote:
Yesterday, 17:03
Ok idk what it is but something is definitely different with S face(?)
for sure i see her nose doesn't have a natural shape/form and i don't mean lip fillers, but i feel like there's also something about her chin & jaw that feels different.
No hate to PS or anything but she's starting to look like every other idol out there
Both did - S before Honey cb and its more noticeble now with recent weightloss
B's one is more apparent cause some parts didn't heal well and the fillers are making the problem areas stand out more. I hate how casual ps is in SK cause so many of them don't need it, but its so common its no a big deal if they did and if they like it thats the only thing that matters
This is really wrong, you just need to watch their pics without make up to know it's not true.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 01:04

The only people making a big deal out of the tiny glimpse they saw of two strangers lives are those of you who insist her having dropped off pizzas means something strange is going on lol. Do you people not hear yourselves? Whether concern trolling or not it’s so silly of you.

People are saying we have no idea how long Yong stayed or if she had other schedules. Yet you want to call this being overtly aggressive, too invested, and blinded? People literally saying they don’t know how long she stayed or why she may not have stayed longer and you want to frame this as being defensive shippers or Solar akgaes. You’re making a huge deal out of something you know nothing about other than that Yong showed up with pizzas that she took the time to order and pick up herself. You’re creating conflict out of it while accusing people of trying to bury the parts that dont fit a narrative. Trying to suggest this points to there being something wrong between them if they’re a couple or that it’s proof they’re just friends lol. Youre the one desperately trying to use this as an excuse to draw conclusions about two people you know next to nothing about and accusing those who aren’t making a big deal out of it of trying to make excuses. Be real. No one falls for your shit. If theyre not a couple we’ll find out at some point. Hyejin hid a whole dog from us for 4 years. A dog that’s even met and went on walks with Yongkey lol. They know how to live privately. No one here is truly under the impression we know everything about them other than you trolls who insist on concern trolling like this because you get so pressed that people enjoy discussing the tiny possibility that they’re a couple. How big of a loser are you that a handful of people ship them enough to talk about this possibility in a little thread in the only lesbian forum on the entire internet?

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 00:47

Guest wrote:
Today, 00:18
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
Yeah, I have noticed it too. Its weird for them to try the shut the topic down. Also not them trying to normalize and down play the imp. Of the concert lol. Gas lighting is pretty strong here
Meanwhile Byul stans downplaying that the concert happened just a few hours before Yong's musical finale, and that girl has been working in an album and 3 TV shows and her fanclub launch, and even downplayed when someone pointed out (logically) that Yong being with a manager at the pizza place meant she was on her way to a schedule. Apparently only Byul's concert mattered in order to make Yong look like a horrible, uncaring person, and Yong's own schedules were all meaningless and unimportant. Gaslighting is pretty strong here

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 00:30

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:46
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
Listen kid don't be so invested in fictional ships. Enjoy them together and don't get too deep, you'll only walk out disappointed when faced with reality that these are 2 women who we know nothing beyond their curated images. They are both amazing and insanely talented, might as well enjoy them as artists and enjoy the ship as any other kpop ship.
Exactly. The problem here is people are so blinded by their shipping that they explain away or bury the parts that do not fit the narrative, which is insane BTW, because how deeply delulu can one get over couple of strangers relationship. Both sides of fans have done this over the years.

Sometimes it's because shipping is also tied to the assumptions about their sexualities which fans would love to be true and I get it because it's gives us visibility as a sexual minority as fans.

However No point being invested so much in a kpop ship, just enjoy the music and occasional thirst traps the girls put out. They are both amazing artists and people as the anon above put it. Enjoy those aspects

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 00:18

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
Yeah, I have noticed it too. Its weird for them to try the shut the topic down. Also not them trying to normalize and down play the imp. Of the concert lol. Gas lighting is pretty strong here

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Today, 00:11



Gather around its clowning time. Idk what this video triggered in my brain but I’m xgames mode level delulu now. It’s been so long since I’ve watched them perform this song that it just looks incredibly gay right now. It reminded me of that Byul comment about Yong being a good girl now. That was before this song came out right? The choreo for this song has Byul and Yong dance like a couple along with the other pairs of dancers. Is it possible the lyrics are kind of about them. Yong good girl, Byul bad boy? And no I don’t want to hear about how she’s a woman and it’s offensive to call her a boy and whatever else bc 1: we all know this and 2: the lover boy socks and her having said she’s like a lover boy. None of this is that deep it’s just a question.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:17

taic wrote:
Yesterday, 17:03
Ok idk what it is but something is definitely different with S face(?)
for sure i see her nose doesn't have a natural shape/form and i don't mean lip fillers, but i feel like there's also something about her chin & jaw that feels different.
No hate to PS or anything but she's starting to look like every other idol out there
Both did - S before Honey cb and its more noticeble now with recent weightloss
B's one is more apparent cause some parts didn't heal well and the fillers are making the problem areas stand out more. I hate how casual ps is in SK cause so many of them don't need it, but its so common its no a big deal if they did and if they like it thats the only thing that matters

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 21:07

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
stfu already. nobody is aggressive, people are just sick and tired of you trying to stir shit once again. you've been doing this for days now in this thread.

and btw, posing as a shipper is a new low. don't forget it's not hard to see ip adresses and check previous posts.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:34

this whole "first ever concert" is kinda dumb too, Byul already had other concerts in the past by the way. Her fam went too for some of them (they didn't for this one).

Get your facts right. It's a milestone, but not the milestone you're trying to make it.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:16

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 18:55
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 18:09
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:31
Since we are talking about this topic, am I the only one notice that byul’s face is swollen unnaturally?

I’ve noticed that since two rabbits. At first I thought it was just edema, but when I saw some concept photos of the new solo album, the face was still swollen and I couldn’t ignore that.

(I know both moonsun did lip fillers, but filling the face is another topic)
(And no I am not a troll, just curious if I am the crazy one)
Not a cosmetic procedure expert, but I m guessing girls put on weight.
No expert here either but i do believe it could be simple fillers to prevent creasing & wrinkles in the future
It's just weight, she's fatter than for some comebacks, but in a healthy way. For Yong is the other way, she's starting to look thinner than in the past months.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:15

What is going on here

These are grown women not teenagers. Their work commitments mean nothing about their possible relationship. Schedules are set months in advance and put into place around other future schedules of the artist and the company and the staff, this isn’t some teenage couple who are able to schedule their lives around dating

One thing about both of them is they’re passionate and committed to work. Byul would probably find it horrendous if Yong ever threw away a work schedule to stay at one of her shows. She understands work commitments and career importance more than anyone. These are grown women, they aren’t bothered by their partner being too busy to stay for a 3+ hour show when they have a thousand other things going on (which revolve around other people’s schedules too by the way)

The fact that she was with her manager means she was doing something work related that day and still made time to swing by the concert to see Byul even for a bit. That is huge. If they were just friends she could have just sent something but she went and took time from her busy schedule to see Byul anyway

Wow

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 19:50

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
But it's not strange **if she couldn't stay** which is what people can't seem to comprehend. That given their entire history of attending big moments for each other AND other times when they **couldn't** stay but showed up anyway, it's beyond reasonable to assume that she simply could not stay for the show. Sometimes adults have responsibilities and commitments that they cannot change. That is how life works sometimes. If you are STILL finding it "strange" and that it "must" mean they are only friends despite the fact that several people have pointed out that it's not strange at all, then you need to work on your powers of critical thinking, deduction, and reasoning. Or if you're trolling, at least get a new routine, this one is really tired.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 19:46

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:31
There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.
Listen kid don't be so invested in fictional ships. Enjoy them together and don't get too deep, you'll only walk out disappointed when faced with reality that these are 2 women who we know nothing beyond their curated images. They are both amazing and insanely talented, might as well enjoy them as artists and enjoy the ship as any other kpop ship.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 19:42

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 18:23
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 18:14
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 07:15
Ha is this what it appears to be? Is this Yongsun literally ordering Byul’s pizza the day of the concert? This is so interesting. I wonder if this is why she mentioned she got Byul dominoes. I think she would have mentioned it whether or not she was spotted by fans but it’s still funny. In my mind when I pictured her taking pizzas I assumed she had ordered them ahead of time or had the manager pick it up but of course she personally went to order it at the dominoes herself. With her cute little house slippers lol. Is that a supreme hoodie too? It doesnt technically mean anything but it’s cute she went so cozy which makes me think she really did just go to meet with her well before the show started to spend some time with her. And before the trolls even try anything this presents an interesting point which is if she didn’t go dressed to attend the show why would she have gone to deliver the pizzas herself? So either she couldn’t stay or she made a point of delivering them to spend time with Byul.

Same, I am mega confused why she just didn't attend? Put so much effort in pizzas and then decided to go back home ?
Why are people so stuck on this? It's not that hard to figure out. She obviously couldn't stay and there are a million reasons why that might be so. Another commitment? Something she couldn't get out of? Who knows, take your guess. But she still wanted to stop by to show support. Stopping by for ten minutes or whatever with a nice gesture for Byul and the crew when you can't stay for the show is a really nice, out of the way thing to do. Fixating on the fact that she didn't stay is strange, especially when you consider that they have both done this exact thing (the five minute visit when something else is going on and they have to leave) for each other in the past. "But the concert was important!!!" yes, which would indicate that she was **unable** to stay, not that she just showed up with pizzas and then was like "I'm not interested enough to stay for the rest of it."
Sorry to revive this nonsense topic but This is too much of a spin on the matter to deflect the weirdness of it. She didn't stay for gf's ever world tours concert. What their dynamics are bts no one knows, but on cam this does not look good especially because she mentioned she would go to byuls concert the day before to the fans outside the musical venue. It's only weird because why mention it, drop the pizzas and not stay. Ofcourse they are adults and life.

This is equally strange as shippers and moos alike expecting another grandiose show from byul for yongs 2nd musical and for her to show up with the gay hairdressers and yong to drop further tmi of turning down byuls dinner invite because she was on a diet.

We could say they are being lowkey but after a whole ass subunit that had insanely coupley photoshoots with dispatch for ffs this shit is just not adding up. You yourself are admitting that the concert was important so why not attend it ? Ofcourse I wonder about these things as a avid shipper of ms who believes they are together. Had I been a non shipper it would have been easier to dismiss both yongs concert absence and byuls lowkey vibe for yongs nodam

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 19:31

There are some really strange and overtly aggressive solar stans in here. It's normal as shippers to speculate on why she wouldn't stay for her concert ? Like it's a big deal similar to yong debuting in a musical and byul showing up and staying till the very end of the first show. If they are a couple as we all conclude then it's strange but if they are only friends then this is normal I guess.


Had it been any concert and yong hadn't even shown up it would be totally fine. But this is byuls dream something she mentioned multiple times, which is why folks are confused with yong not staying beyond the pizza thing.

Either ms are just friends or it's just strange. Shippers on twitter were also discussing the same, so I don't get the anons in here trying their hardest to shut this convo down.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 18:55

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 18:09
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:31
Since we are talking about this topic, am I the only one notice that byul’s face is swollen unnaturally?

I’ve noticed that since two rabbits. At first I thought it was just edema, but when I saw some concept photos of the new solo album, the face was still swollen and I couldn’t ignore that.

(I know both moonsun did lip fillers, but filling the face is another topic)
(And no I am not a troll, just curious if I am the crazy one)
Not a cosmetic procedure expert, but I m guessing girls put on weight.
No expert here either but i do believe it could be simple fillers to prevent creasing & wrinkles in the future

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 18:42

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 18:14
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 07:15
Ha is this what it appears to be? Is this Yongsun literally ordering Byul’s pizza the day of the concert? This is so interesting. I wonder if this is why she mentioned she got Byul dominoes. I think she would have mentioned it whether or not she was spotted by fans but it’s still funny. In my mind when I pictured her taking pizzas I assumed she had ordered them ahead of time or had the manager pick it up but of course she personally went to order it at the dominoes herself. With her cute little house slippers lol. Is that a supreme hoodie too? It doesnt technically mean anything but it’s cute she went so cozy which makes me think she really did just go to meet with her well before the show started to spend some time with her. And before the trolls even try anything this presents an interesting point which is if she didn’t go dressed to attend the show why would she have gone to deliver the pizzas herself? So either she couldn’t stay or she made a point of delivering them to spend time with Byul.

Same, I am mega confused why she just didn't attend? Put so much effort in pizzas and then decided to go back home ?
Da. I know some of you dum dum are new but Yong bought pizza back in dsotm MV too. It is an excuse to meet byul in Yong playbook. Both of them have their own independent career and yes it hard for you normies to understand how moonsun acting so different from fanfic but they real human okay?

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 18:34

If you read the accounts of the cmoos who saw her at the pizza place she was not alone

She was with her manager. Which means she almost certainly was on her way to a schedule

Being drsssed down and casual means nothing, they will get glammed up at whatever photoshoot or filming they go to. The girls even had tv segments about how dressed down they are when they show up places, very casual

Plus she could also have had a recording session at rbw and maybe that producer had a full achulé and this was the only time to record this etc

Ok

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 18:23

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 18:14
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 07:15
Ha is this what it appears to be? Is this Yongsun literally ordering Byul’s pizza the day of the concert? This is so interesting. I wonder if this is why she mentioned she got Byul dominoes. I think she would have mentioned it whether or not she was spotted by fans but it’s still funny. In my mind when I pictured her taking pizzas I assumed she had ordered them ahead of time or had the manager pick it up but of course she personally went to order it at the dominoes herself. With her cute little house slippers lol. Is that a supreme hoodie too? It doesnt technically mean anything but it’s cute she went so cozy which makes me think she really did just go to meet with her well before the show started to spend some time with her. And before the trolls even try anything this presents an interesting point which is if she didn’t go dressed to attend the show why would she have gone to deliver the pizzas herself? So either she couldn’t stay or she made a point of delivering them to spend time with Byul.

Same, I am mega confused why she just didn't attend? Put so much effort in pizzas and then decided to go back home ?
Why are people so stuck on this? It's not that hard to figure out. She obviously couldn't stay and there are a million reasons why that might be so. Another commitment? Something she couldn't get out of? Who knows, take your guess. But she still wanted to stop by to show support. Stopping by for ten minutes or whatever with a nice gesture for Byul and the crew when you can't stay for the show is a really nice, out of the way thing to do. Fixating on the fact that she didn't stay is strange, especially when you consider that they have both done this exact thing (the five minute visit when something else is going on and they have to leave) for each other in the past. "But the concert was important!!!" yes, which would indicate that she was **unable** to stay, not that she just showed up with pizzas and then was like "I'm not interested enough to stay for the rest of it."

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 18:14

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 07:15
Ha is this what it appears to be? Is this Yongsun literally ordering Byul’s pizza the day of the concert? This is so interesting. I wonder if this is why she mentioned she got Byul dominoes. I think she would have mentioned it whether or not she was spotted by fans but it’s still funny. In my mind when I pictured her taking pizzas I assumed she had ordered them ahead of time or had the manager pick it up but of course she personally went to order it at the dominoes herself. With her cute little house slippers lol. Is that a supreme hoodie too? It doesnt technically mean anything but it’s cute she went so cozy which makes me think she really did just go to meet with her well before the show started to spend some time with her. And before the trolls even try anything this presents an interesting point which is if she didn’t go dressed to attend the show why would she have gone to deliver the pizzas herself? So either she couldn’t stay or she made a point of delivering them to spend time with Byul.

Same, I am mega confused why she just didn't attend? Put so much effort in pizzas and then decided to go back home ?

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 18:09

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:31
Since we are talking about this topic, am I the only one notice that byul’s face is swollen unnaturally?

I’ve noticed that since two rabbits. At first I thought it was just edema, but when I saw some concept photos of the new solo album, the face was still swollen and I couldn’t ignore that.

(I know both moonsun did lip fillers, but filling the face is another topic)
(And no I am not a troll, just curious if I am the crazy one)
Not a cosmetic procedure expert, but I m guessing girls put on weight.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 17:35

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:31
Since we are talking about this topic, am I the only one notice that byul’s face is swollen unnaturally?

I’ve noticed that since two rabbits. At first I thought it was just edema, but when I saw some concept photos of the new solo album, the face was still swollen and I couldn’t ignore that.

(I know both moonsun did lip fillers, but filling the face is another topic)
(And no I am not a troll, just curious if I am the crazy one)
For the record, I am not saying doing dermal fillers is unacceptable, but it just doesn’t work for her face (if she did)

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 17:31

Since we are talking about this topic, am I the only one notice that byul’s face is swollen unnaturally?

I’ve noticed that since two rabbits. At first I thought it was just edema, but when I saw some concept photos of the new solo album, the face was still swollen and I couldn’t ignore that.

(I know both moonsun did lip fillers, but filling the face is another topic)
(And no I am not a troll, just curious if I am the crazy one)

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 17:29

taic wrote:
Yesterday, 17:03
Ok idk what it is but something is definitely different with S face(?)
for sure i see her nose doesn't have a natural shape/form and i don't mean lip fillers, but i feel like there's also something about her chin & jaw that feels different.
No hate to PS or anything but she's starting to look like every other idol out there
lmao please.
We’ve been getting unedited pics of Yong every other day for the past few months, taken from regular phone cameras from fans who aren’t fansites. Her face looks the same as it’s ever been and nothing like “every other idol out there”. If you’re using heavily edited promo pics as the base for your bullshit, then you probably shouldn’t be giving opinions on the subject to begin with. You’re either a troll, or just stupid.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 17:12

I do agree her face looks different a bit but I don’t think it was plastic surgery. Simply because there wasn’t really time to recover from anything

Before the musical she was constantly filming two shows and then the musical schedule she was in public every few days. Plus before everything started she took vacation pics showing her face so I don’t think it was then and before that she was busy in the public eye

My guess is it’s something non invasive like fillers or some it has a shorter/non existent recovery period. Which is good because it isn’t permanent

I don’t hope she backs away from it though she’s gorgeous as is eek

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 17:12

taic wrote:
Yesterday, 17:03
Ok idk what it is but something is definitely different with S face(?)
for sure i see her nose doesn't have a natural shape/form and i don't mean lip fillers, but i feel like there's also something about her chin & jaw that feels different.
No hate to PS or anything but she's starting to look like every other idol out there
If you're talking about the fanclub concept photos you're aware that those are edited like crazy right? Just like basically all formal photoshoots for magazines, album inclusions, anything else. Makeup does magic too.

We've been seeing Solar every few days for the last few months for her musical. I'm not sure when you think she would have gone in to get major plastic surgery during that time, and watching the videos of her from the mini fanmeetings she doesn't look that different than before to me. Certainly not "like every other idol out there."

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by taic » Yesterday, 17:03

Ok idk what it is but something is definitely different with S face(?)
for sure i see her nose doesn't have a natural shape/form and i don't mean lip fillers, but i feel like there's also something about her chin & jaw that feels different.
No hate to PS or anything but she's starting to look like every other idol out there

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 15:12

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 11:16
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 10:48
For the pizza Byul might have simply been not feeling ok enough to eat, nerves etc before the show and didn’t want to push it. It’s not like a group concert where members take over if you’re not well it’s a solo show

And even if she was feeling better by the end of the show the pizza might have been finished off by all the staff and crew or not safe to eat anymore. Remember her show was like 3 hours plus free
I think the answer could ve simpler: abs. We know Byul and sometimes Yongsun tends to exercise before concerts to show more her abs. She wouldn't eat if she planned to do that

Also, interesting picture, Yong really went there for the pizzas lol how sweet. I think it also covers why maybe we don't have a picture, not her most presentable moment. This always happens with them, somehow, after a while you know more, not by them, but because they are so loud that can't hide. They had to reveal this meeting because fans alreado knew about it!
Da
I'm not a performer but if it were me, I definitely wouldn't eat pizza before going on stage lol. Dough foods make a lot of people bloat, not to mention it's high in fats, calories etc. And you wanna look good on stage and feel energized - especially when you're showing off your midriff :lol:

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 11:46

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 10:17
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 08:45
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 07:12
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 07:00
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 03:49

Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.
Common r------- h akgae defending her more than they respect black people. Just search nigerian auntie and korean sauna and see which one looks more like Hwasa :rofl:
Um I'm a Nigerian woman, my first and last name (if you knew me) would tell you. However, I didn't say I agreed with what the poster put, I just thanked them for the replies and reiterated why I was asking about the clothing. I know what traditional Nigerian/African (due to a lot of African countries clothing sharing similarities) look like. I also know what spa/sauna clothing look like based on my current S.Korea trip. What I won't do is fight on an anonymous board, for what? We're not going to agree anyways.
Sa I'm the anon who posted the tweets. I don't entirely know what I think of them myself. It's obviously not standard sauna clothing, they called it a "high-end sauna look with more care than usual" on screen and compared it to Hwasa in a more usual plain sauna outfit right before. They were clearly going for something striking and over the top especially if you look at the other women's outfits on the show too. I do think there's room to wonder if it was a direct reference to something African or if there were other influences too. Yuna the musician from Malaysia is known to wear ornate headwraps that she sometimes coordinates with vibrant outfits, there are some Filipina traditional costumes where women wear bright patterned headwraps too, just to name a couple examples I could think of off the top of my head. And yeah, like your original post suggested, there's a separate question after that over whether it was intended to make fun or somehow be a homage or something. Either way God knows Korean culture in general like a lot of cultures around the world has plenty of not so hidden racism, toward Southeast Asians in addition to Black people to be honest, and even if no one involved in picking that outfit actively intended harm the end result still could be insensitive.

For me personally since MBC called it a sauna inspired outfit on screen from the get go, before anyone called them out on it, and because as far as I can tell Hwasa didn't walk out saying something like "look how African I look", I would tend to give the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't trying to make African clothing the butt of a joke or otherwise be disrespectful. But you're of course welcome to decide for yourself how you feel about it and I'll leave the topic here. I do appreciate getting to share thoughts without name calling.
High end sauna look doesn't exist, and rich asian people tend to find these patterns tacky. Most rich asians especially koreans are super racist, if you think your normal korean is racist you're not prepared for rich koreans. Rich people had black people as slaves for a reason. That's why old money fashion doesn't scream in your face.

Homage or comedic effect. So it's blackfishing or racist cultural appropriation, none is a good look. She never apologized for it on her own and had MBC defend her name with a made up excuse. She doesn't need to say she looks african, everyone can see it, people pointed it looked weird and unnatural. Most nigerians that were not biased moomoos felt it was racist. Same as her durag. Same as her n word. All the thing she never apologized for. Let black people be mad at her for playing with our culture this way
DA I agree in letting people feel the way they do regarding the topic. You will have some Black/Africans say it was offensive and some will say they weren't bothered by it. I (the Nigerian poster a few above this one) believe in healthy discourse. It's honest convo and good convo imo.

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 11:16

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 10:48
For the pizza Byul might have simply been not feeling ok enough to eat, nerves etc before the show and didn’t want to push it. It’s not like a group concert where members take over if you’re not well it’s a solo show

And even if she was feeling better by the end of the show the pizza might have been finished off by all the staff and crew or not safe to eat anymore. Remember her show was like 3 hours plus free
I think the answer could ve simpler: abs. We know Byul and sometimes Yongsun tends to exercise before concerts to show more her abs. She wouldn't eat if she planned to do that

Also, interesting picture, Yong really went there for the pizzas lol how sweet. I think it also covers why maybe we don't have a picture, not her most presentable moment. This always happens with them, somehow, after a while you know more, not by them, but because they are so loud that can't hide. They had to reveal this meeting because fans alreado knew about it!

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 10:48

For the pizza Byul might have simply been not feeling ok enough to eat, nerves etc before the show and didn’t want to push it. It’s not like a group concert where members take over if you’re not well it’s a solo show

And even if she was feeling better by the end of the show the pizza might have been finished off by all the staff and crew or not safe to eat anymore. Remember her show was like 3 hours plus free

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 10:17

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 08:45
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 07:12
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 07:00
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 03:49
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 01:57

Da there's a picture of the outfit in question here along with MBC's official response in a screenshot https://www.soompi.com/article/1415053w ... moos-hwasa
Anyway, you can form whatever opinion you want of course. But this thread is not for bashing any of the MMM girls.
Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.
Common r------- h akgae defending her more than they respect black people. Just search nigerian auntie and korean sauna and see which one looks more like Hwasa :rofl:
Um I'm a Nigerian woman, my first and last name (if you knew me) would tell you. However, I didn't say I agreed with what the poster put, I just thanked them for the replies and reiterated why I was asking about the clothing. I know what traditional Nigerian/African (due to a lot of African countries clothing sharing similarities) look like. I also know what spa/sauna clothing look like based on my current S.Korea trip. What I won't do is fight on an anonymous board, for what? We're not going to agree anyways.
Sa I'm the anon who posted the tweets. I don't entirely know what I think of them myself. It's obviously not standard sauna clothing, they called it a "high-end sauna look with more care than usual" on screen and compared it to Hwasa in a more usual plain sauna outfit right before. They were clearly going for something striking and over the top especially if you look at the other women's outfits on the show too. I do think there's room to wonder if it was a direct reference to something African or if there were other influences too. Yuna the musician from Malaysia is known to wear ornate headwraps that she sometimes coordinates with vibrant outfits, there are some Filipina traditional costumes where women wear bright patterned headwraps too, just to name a couple examples I could think of off the top of my head. And yeah, like your original post suggested, there's a separate question after that over whether it was intended to make fun or somehow be a homage or something. Either way God knows Korean culture in general like a lot of cultures around the world has plenty of not so hidden racism, toward Southeast Asians in addition to Black people to be honest, and even if no one involved in picking that outfit actively intended harm the end result still could be insensitive.

For me personally since MBC called it a sauna inspired outfit on screen from the get go, before anyone called them out on it, and because as far as I can tell Hwasa didn't walk out saying something like "look how African I look", I would tend to give the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't trying to make African clothing the butt of a joke or otherwise be disrespectful. But you're of course welcome to decide for yourself how you feel about it and I'll leave the topic here. I do appreciate getting to share thoughts without name calling.
High end sauna look doesn't exist, and rich asian people tend to find these patterns tacky. Most rich asians especially koreans are super racist, if you think your normal korean is racist you're not prepared for rich koreans. Rich people had black people as slaves for a reason. That's why old money fashion doesn't scream in your face.

Homage or comedic effect. So it's blackfishing or racist cultural appropriation, none is a good look. She never apologized for it on her own and had MBC defend her name with a made up excuse. She doesn't need to say she looks african, everyone can see it, people pointed it looked weird and unnatural. Most nigerians that were not biased moomoos felt it was racist. Same as her durag. Same as her n word. All the thing she never apologized for. Let black people be mad at her for playing with our culture this way

Re: Mamamoo; korean girl group

by Guest » Yesterday, 09:32

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 08:45
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 07:12
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 07:00
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 03:49
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 01:57

Da there's a picture of the outfit in question here along with MBC's official response in a screenshot https://www.soompi.com/article/1415053w ... moos-hwasa
Anyway, you can form whatever opinion you want of course. But this thread is not for bashing any of the MMM girls.
Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.
Common r------- h akgae defending her more than they respect black people. Just search nigerian auntie and korean sauna and see which one looks more like Hwasa :rofl:
Um I'm a Nigerian woman, my first and last name (if you knew me) would tell you. However, I didn't say I agreed with what the poster put, I just thanked them for the replies and reiterated why I was asking about the clothing. I know what traditional Nigerian/African (due to a lot of African countries clothing sharing similarities) look like. I also know what spa/sauna clothing look like based on my current S.Korea trip. What I won't do is fight on an anonymous board, for what? We're not going to agree anyways.
Sa I'm the anon who posted the tweets. I don't entirely know what I think of them myself. It's obviously not standard sauna clothing, they called it a "high-end sauna look with more care than usual" on screen and compared it to Hwasa in a more usual plain sauna outfit right before. They were clearly going for something striking and over the top especially if you look at the other women's outfits on the show too. I do think there's room to wonder if it was a direct reference to something African or if there were other influences too. Yuna the musician from Malaysia is known to wear ornate headwraps that she sometimes coordinates with vibrant outfits, there are some Filipina traditional costumes where women wear bright patterned headwraps too, just to name a couple examples I could think of off the top of my head. And yeah, like your original post suggested, there's a separate question after that over whether it was intended to make fun or somehow be a homage or something. Either way God knows Korean culture in general like a lot of cultures around the world has plenty of not so hidden racism, toward Southeast Asians in addition to Black people to be honest, and even if no one involved in picking that outfit actively intended harm the end result still could be insensitive.

For me personally since MBC called it a sauna inspired outfit on screen from the get go, before anyone called them out on it, and because as far as I can tell Hwasa didn't walk out saying something like "look how African I look", I would tend to give the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't trying to make African clothing the butt of a joke or otherwise be disrespectful. But you're of course welcome to decide for yourself how you feel about it and I'll leave the topic here. I do appreciate getting to share thoughts without name calling.
You're fine, we were having a normal convo. Like I had posted before, I don't think it was anything racist in least, I just found it a bit skeptical for them to call it sauna wear when it looks to be anything else but sauna wear imo. But nonetheless that other poster I guess was either trolling or being difficult on purpose.

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I don’t get why Byul didn’t eat the pizza though. Someone said Yong ordered 5 of them and all with sweet potato filled crusts or something. Is that why? She didn’t like the crust? I kind of felt bad when Yong mentioned Byul refused to eat it. But I hoped it was just bc she didn’t want to eat before performing. Saw someone who even hoped Byul didn’t eat it bc she felt bad Yong is dieting and couldn’t have any. I can’t make assumptions either way.
I don’t know why Byul didn’t eat the pizza but I assumed that like me she can’t eat when nervous.

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DA is that really a sauna look? It just looks nothing like sauna clothing imo (basing this off the centum spa land i went to). I have no issue with other ethnicities wearing other culture's traditional wear. I'm Nigerian in South Korea for a trip and I got to wear a hanbok for the first time, great experience. And before anyone attacks me, no I'm not calling Hwasa a racist. I'm just curious if it's really spa clothing because it really looks like a gele/headtie and a relaxed version of the women's dress.
Da there's a picture of the outfit in question here along with MBC's official response in a screenshot https://www.soompi.com/article/1415053w ... moos-hwasa
Anyway, you can form whatever opinion you want of course. But this thread is not for bashing any of the MMM girls.
Hey thanks for the replies and tweets. I was really curious because of the styling and the prints on the clothing, since sauna wear usually tends to be super plain and one color.
Common r------- h akgae defending her more than they respect black people. Just search nigerian auntie and korean sauna and see which one looks more like Hwasa :rofl:
Um I'm a Nigerian woman, my first and last name (if you knew me) would tell you. However, I didn't say I agreed with what the poster put, I just thanked them for the replies and reiterated why I was asking about the clothing. I know what traditional Nigerian/African (due to a lot of African countries clothing sharing similarities) look like. I also know what spa/sauna clothing look like based on my current S.Korea trip. What I won't do is fight on an anonymous board, for what? We're not going to agree anyways.
Sa I'm the anon who posted the tweets. I don't entirely know what I think of them myself. It's obviously not standard sauna clothing, they called it a "high-end sauna look with more care than usual" on screen and compared it to Hwasa in a more usual plain sauna outfit right before. They were clearly going for something striking and over the top especially if you look at the other women's outfits on the show too. I do think there's room to wonder if it was a direct reference to something African or if there were other influences too. Yuna the musician from Malaysia is known to wear ornate headwraps that she sometimes coordinates with vibrant outfits, there are some Filipina traditional costumes where women wear bright patterned headwraps too, just to name a couple examples I could think of off the top of my head. And yeah, like your original post suggested, there's a separate question after that over whether it was intended to make fun or somehow be a homage or something. Either way God knows Korean culture in general like a lot of cultures around the world has plenty of not so hidden racism, toward Southeast Asians in addition to Black people to be honest, and even if no one involved in picking that outfit actively intended harm the end result still could be insensitive.

For me personally since MBC called it a sauna inspired outfit on screen from the get go, before anyone called them out on it, and because as far as I can tell Hwasa didn't walk out saying something like "look how African I look", I would tend to give the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't trying to make African clothing the butt of a joke or otherwise be disrespectful. But you're of course welcome to decide for yourself how you feel about it and I'll leave the topic here. I do appreciate getting to share thoughts without name calling.

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