Korean Entertainment - Part II

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I’m pretty sure there are gays in the popular group but the chances of them coming out is zero unless they become irrelevant in the future. The only one who was basically out is Moonbyul but I don’t think she’s brave enough to fully come out like the western artist did, it’s too risky for her career. I don’t think it’s fair for us to uphold this K-pop idols for some standard, we are not even from South Korea, we don’t know how does it feel like living there. The least that they can do is support LGBTQ but even that is kinda risky in itself, Sunmi literally got shoved back inside the closet during their concert and some female idols get hate on for reading a feminist book. After years of being in this thread, my advise is don’t take this thread too seriously or expect any of these girls that get discussed to came out. I’m a 2nd gen stan and most of us are sure that Yubin is lesbian but she’s probably bisexual or deep in the closet.
What annoys me and low key makes me despise korea and koreans, is that kpop tries so hard to appeal to the west, to copy the west, but they don't have the mentality at all, zero courage, zero openness. If some idols are LGB they must probably know a bit about eachother, and could very well contribute to speak up in a coordinate way to be protected in case their careers get threatened. If everyone supports eachother, nobody will fall kind of. But they have 0 fucking courage. Like Rosé, Australian idol who nobody in korea could give a fuck about wether she supports gay rights or not, can't even answer "yes" to a question ("do you support gay rights"). It is so pathetic.
But I see idols are less and less afraid. Imo it's 100% the CEO's fault and not much the idols (who are still cowards but ok), because all these cult things i think make them force idols to shut up. While still gaybaiting to hell and take the int fans money.
Groups that are heavily appeal to the West usually do so because they aren’t popular in South Korea. But K-pop idols or agencies literally do not give 2 fucks about these intl fans, they aren’t the one who contribute the most profit to the company, it’s always the Korean and Chinese fans. And mind you, some company like MHJ mention literally would choke on homophobic incel’s d**k just so that these male fans would buy their albums and attend fansign. If K-pop idols actually care about intl fans they would apologize for all the racist stuff they done

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They -Karina Wonyoung- both had extensive plastic surgery because they were quite ugly when young. But they are in big companies and have delulu stans so plastic talk is dismissed as trolling or fake news. Trump uses the same tactic to cover up his evil.
Both women are desperate for fame and will do anything for it including faking it and baiting gay fans which is common in kpop. Not a true reflection of their real personality or sexuality. They are very different in private and IRL.
As long as they have blind stand it is all good, but stans will fade as they get old.
90% of gen 1 and 2 idols are totally forgotten.
Projecting hard girl
Also gen 1/2 idols didn't have half the fame that karina and wonyoung have. Not even a 10th. These two will be fine at 30 and even 40 while you'll remain bottom tier. Seethe!
Lee Hyori had more fame than Karina will ever have. Putting Karina next to Wonyoung they're not even the same league.
x2 The Karina self insert stans from Twitter are so cringey when they act this way anywhere else.
Except for kpop fans of 10+ years nobody knows what a "Lee Hyori" is be serious please. Every metric, numbers, money, whatever you want prove Karina/Wonyoung surpass these idols in terms of popularity, you're the one who's cringe boomer sis...

Da Saying an aespa member is more culturally relevant than Lee Hyori and only boomers know her is like when Army were saying IU needed BTass to get views. If Tiktok is your metric well yes, Karina won't be this for 5th gen esp after her scandal tho, meanwhile Wonyoung's perfect idol behavior goes viral everyday and her beauty already shifted idol norms so wtf are you on?

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God yall still posting Karina Ryujin?? Go back to twitter or post in their thread. No one cares about them queerbaiters, they're most likely fucking a guy rn.

but it's the only way they can get attention.

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They -Karina Wonyoung- both had extensive plastic surgery because they were quite ugly when young. But they are in big companies and have delulu stans so plastic talk is dismissed as trolling or fake news. Trump uses the same tactic to cover up his evil.
Both women are desperate for fame and will do anything for it including faking it and baiting gay fans which is common in kpop. Not a true reflection of their real personality or sexuality. They are very different in private and IRL.
As long as they have blind stand it is all good, but stans will fade as they get old.
90% of gen 1 and 2 idols are totally forgotten.
Projecting hard girl
Also gen 1/2 idols didn't have half the fame that karina and wonyoung have. Not even a 10th. These two will be fine at 30 and even 40 while you'll remain bottom tier. Seethe!
Lee Hyori had more fame than Karina will ever have. Putting Karina next to Wonyoung they're not even the same league.
x2 The Karina self insert stans from Twitter are so cringey when they act this way anywhere else.
Except for kpop fans of 10+ years nobody knows what a "Lee Hyori" is be serious please. Every metric, numbers, money, whatever you want prove Karina/Wonyoung surpass these idols in terms of popularity, you're the one who's cringe boomer sis...

You sound like a milennial who wants to live through Wonyoung but can't because you're too old. I guarantee I'm younger than you. She will never be the it girl you need her to be for your stan Twitter mean girl arc to work on anyone here "sis".

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Both Karina and Wonyoung have had plastic surgery done, it's obvious. Whether person A or person B find any of them attractive is subjective, as always. I just don't get why people sit here and say "they're natural", let's be fucking for real for a second.
They -Karina Wonyoung- both had extensive plastic surgery because they were quite ugly when young. But they are in big companies and have delulu stans so plastic talk is dismissed as trolling or fake news. Trump uses the same tactic to cover up his evil.
Both women are desperate for fame and will do anything for it including faking it and baiting gay fans which is common in kpop. Not a true reflection of their real personality or sexuality. They are very different in private and IRL.
As long as they have blind stand it is all good, but stans will fade as they get old.
90% of gen 1 and 2 idols are totally forgotten.
Projecting hard girl
Also gen 1/2 idols didn't have half the fame that karina and wonyoung have. Not even a 10th. These two will be fine at 30 and even 40 while you'll remain bottom tier. Seethe!
Lee Hyori had more fame than Karina will ever have. Putting Karina next to Wonyoung they're not even the same league.
x2 The Karina self insert stans from Twitter are so cringey when they act this way anywhere else.

Except for kpop fans of 10+ years nobody knows what a "Lee Hyori" is be serious please. Every metric, numbers, money, whatever you want prove Karina/Wonyoung surpass these idols in terms of popularity, you're the one who's cringe boomer sis...

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Jeongyeon chaeyoung
Seulgi
Moonbyul
Dami
Miya
Ryujin
Karina Winter
Kim lip, chuu, yves
Soojin

Some girls naturally developed into the gay role because of their own volition
Winter is absolutely not gay occupying any gat role. The only gayness comes because of winrina who is the middest ship, annyeongz tier
Karina was never supposed to be "gay" she chose to be that because she loves women or whatever it is with her.
What has seulgi done except being a bit of a tomboyish arthoe?
Dami also naturally pings a lot and i don't think she gaybaits.
Jeongyeon pings as fuck and it's no coïncidence she was supposed to be the "girlcrush" member, but she started to hate it and it's kinda sad cause no one can deny how tomboy she is and how she pings, she suits that vibe better than feminity but that's just my opinion.
To me Girlcrush is less about your sense of style and more about how the idol caries themselves. I am talking about the dominance, swagger and confidence.
I mean think about it Jeongyeon never had the nonchalant flirtyness or confidence of a ryujin or the dominance authority of jihyo.
Whenever jeongyeon was asked to do something gurlcrushy she always looked like a Deer caught in headlights.
Like she never really understood what people expected of her.
Beside her personal style Jeongyeon was very unfit for the role.

I don't know if you actually watched Twice's content with jeongyeon but it's not just style with her lol... She is for example very gentle womanly, and also dominant but she's more funny about it than jihyo. It's like every member crushed on her for a while at debut because she has that reliable vibe, "boyfriend" vibe, that girlcrush girls have. If i remember well, she was voted as the leader by the other members but decided to give the role to jihyo.
It's true that Jeongyeon lacks confidence, but it's just because she gets hyper self conscious not because she doesn't know how to be a girlcrush, like it's not a knowledge. It's either you are that or not. One day jeongyeon decided she wanted to be girly and stop being seen as the girlcrush even though being a girlcrush was always natural for her while being girly wasn't.
Reminds me a bit of Minji who I recall also wants to be girly, but she kinda accepted it now?

Jeongyeon is weird anyways because when I think about that pic of her with her lesbian friend, I don't see someone who wants to be girly in the slightest. Many times she owns her masc/tomboy side yet also seems uncomfortable at times when in front of the cameras. I wonder if she even knows wtf she wants.

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The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.
That’s why I said gayest not the most lesbian song
What moonbyul did was legendary. Writing and singing about a lesbian relationship and saying it out loud that the song is a love song between women. I think that cannot be topped especially that it was so specific to lesbians and not a generic song about love is love or whatever. Solar didnt sing about lesbians specifically but her song is unapologetically rooted in gay culture. Twinks or not. In a homophobic country, you dont have the luxury of having a lesbian community without having some overlaps with gay men too. Also, why are you calling her a straight woman obsessed with twinks? She isnt bey nor lady gaga. The majority of her stans are women and she knows that. She def does not have a reason to cater to the male gays. And straight men most def wont like this song lol. Did you ask yourself why would solar get super involved and interested in the gay scene in korea that she made her comeback about it. Then she goes on interviews talking about how she hates her country’s conservatism? Is she too obsessed with gay men to the point that she wants to represent them and criticize her deeply homophobic country just for them? (Again considering that she might likely get a backlash from the gp without having gay men stanning her so much to back her up)
Tiffany also does this. I think she's more outspoken actually. I am only mentioning her because she's mainstream, there are folks like seori who literally have same sex couples making out in their mv includes gays and lesbians. So many other artists have open support towards wlw couples in their art. Solar's ballroom rep is more geared towards twinks and gay men. Drag culture attracts straight women in droves because it's hyper feminine and has very little interest for cis men so it automatically is a safe haven . Chungha also did it before solar. Sadly nothing about the song or the lyrics indicated anything in it for the lesbians. Am I disappointed? Yes. Do I discount the support for lgbtq community ? Heck no, proud af of homegirl to do this on national TV. Just wished for more lesbian rep
Damn please no taeny flashbacks. That was a rough period for some of us
Solar and Tiffany ally queens now I see it

Da You just wrote a novel on them paying lesbians dust girl I-

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Both Karina and Wonyoung have had plastic surgery done, it's obvious. Whether person A or person B find any of them attractive is subjective, as always. I just don't get why people sit here and say "they're natural", let's be fucking for real for a second.
They -Karina Wonyoung- both had extensive plastic surgery because they were quite ugly when young. But they are in big companies and have delulu stans so plastic talk is dismissed as trolling or fake news. Trump uses the same tactic to cover up his evil.
Both women are desperate for fame and will do anything for it including faking it and baiting gay fans which is common in kpop. Not a true reflection of their real personality or sexuality. They are very different in private and IRL.
As long as they have blind stand it is all good, but stans will fade as they get old.
90% of gen 1 and 2 idols are totally forgotten.
Projecting hard girl
Also gen 1/2 idols didn't have half the fame that karina and wonyoung have. Not even a 10th. These two will be fine at 30 and even 40 while you'll remain bottom tier. Seethe!
Lee Hyori had more fame than Karina will ever have. Putting Karina next to Wonyoung they're not even the same league.

x2 The Karina self insert stans from Twitter are so cringey when they act this way anywhere else.

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da Were there butches or other women in the mv? I'm sorry but you're reaching. She did not think of lesbians when she made that.
Lol. Yeah, it seemed the target audience was drag performers, gay men and maybe lesbians. Definitely didn't seem targeted towards wlw folks. Missed opportunity maybe ? Overall I think a great show of allyship towards the community. Kudos to that.

Byuls song was so explicit it left no ambiguity in terms of it's target audience while Solars song seems for a broader audience
Da drag and ballroom was created for the queers and trannys. It's why straight women love it. It doesn't appeal to feminist lesbians in large because it's hyperfeminine and feminist lesbians in general don't like drag queens because of the misogyny.
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Fixed. How are you triggered by the word feminist? Lesbians can be feminists without being political lesbians. It doesn't make lesbians secretly attracted to men to not watch Drag Race.

D.A. Must be a bitter Solar stan. No woman bats for gay male culture that revolves around imitating and mocking women except for faghags. Kweerdos need to stop equating lesbian culture with the GBTQ nonsense.

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Jeongyeon chaeyoung
Seulgi
Moonbyul
Dami
Miya
Ryujin
Karina Winter
Kim lip, chuu, yves
Soojin

It's funnier when you take into account their og debut with Minx where their concept was very much for the male gaze. I find Dami didn't ping for me at all during that period. To me she only started pinging around the end of their debut year as DC.
I am really curious about Soojin. Girlie was giving major sapphic vibes back in gidle and then went and got a rainbow tattooed on her wrist. I don't think she's a lesbian obviously but I swear if it's a tattoo of a rainbow cause she just happens to like them or about new beginnings I will lose my shit.
DA both her and Siyeon never pinged to me until dc and Siyeon still doesn't while Dami for sure does now. If I had to bet money on one member of that group being wlw it would for sure be on Dami. Are there any more real receipts on Siyeon because to me she just looks like a typical straight girl who dresses comfortably but I'm also not too deep in the fandom. All I got from the dc thread is her looking at other members which I always consider very weak evidence since they've all been friends for so long.

Dami didn't ping as much as I thought she would when I saw them. She does look the part but I think she might be very muted in her pinging and has the typical hip hop dancer/rapper vibe. She is pretty tomboyish but that's about it and she loves her dainty hot girl aesthetic a lot as well. She definitely does gaybait though, all of them play into the don't care about gender thing and openly flirt with fans. But I can't recall a single thing about her that is genuinely solidly sapphic. She also gave the example of a m*n as a face she was attracted to when asked about her ideal type

Siyeon on the other hand pings like crazy and a lot more than I expected her to. There is just something about the way she carries herself both on and off stage. I won't say much cause the other anon has already said all that there is to say but I do believe she is fam and the only one in the group other than Yoohyeon that I can say is genuinely into women with certainty regardless of bi-gay etc. She also talked about worrying that people and fans won't accept her for who she is and about how grateful she is for them letting her be who she really is. I don't really understand what exactly she meant by letting her be herself because a lot of idols are weird and that's their whole appeal so I don't really believe it's her being worried people won't like her for being an odd person.
Anyway call it wishful thinking but I think she is fam.

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While I agree that Moonbyul still takes the crown, I think you don't understand the concept of ballroom culture which includes houses with genres of Butches and Women. Ballroom isn't *for* twinks, since a long time with the inclusion of latinos and black people the houses had a growth to what I mentioned before. It is a lesbian activity too. The platform she did for houses was different from what we saw before and that's the fun part.
da Were there butches or other women in the mv? I'm sorry but you're reaching. She did not think of lesbians when she made that.
Lol. Yeah, it seemed the target audience was drag performers, gay men and maybe lesbians. Definitely didn't seem targeted towards wlw folks. Missed opportunity maybe ? Overall I think a great show of allyship towards the community. Kudos to that.

Byuls song was so explicit it left no ambiguity in terms of it's target audience while Solars song seems for a broader audience
Da drag and ballroom was created for the queers and trannys. It's why straight women love it. It doesn't appeal to feminist lesbians in large because it's hyperfeminine and feminist lesbians in general don't like drag queens because of the misogyny.
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Fixed. How are you triggered by the word feminist? Lesbians can be feminists without being political lesbians. It doesn't make lesbians secretly attracted to men to not watch Drag Race.

by **Guest** » Today, 06:06

Tldr to the Siyeon post. The links are in response to you asking why the fandom thinks she is wlw. At the end of the day you are free to believe what you want to believe. Siyeon doesn't have one or two loud moments that say something like with Yoohyeon nor are people solely relying on the vibes or allyship/fanservice like with Dami. Siyeon has been caught on camera multiple time staring at women, both her members and other women. Most people think she pings to high heaven after seeing her irl. Her clothes aren't just comfy they are a mess and I don't think her clothes necessarily play into the vibe at all unless we go with the gays can't dress well stereotype. Outside of her being very giddy about showing off her look for the anniversary concert this year or wanting to be Caitlyn (a very feminine lesbian character) for Halloween I have never seen any relevance in terms of outfits.

She also usually tries to pretend like certain things didn't happen instead of drawing attention to the gayness of it like the other members do (yes including Dami). She is the only member who has not done aggressively wlw stage choreo cover with another member. The fandom thinks she is wlw because over the years she has done and said things that het women don't do or say.

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Alright fellow hags. I got something to share
If anyone would have told us in 2016-2018ish that yongsun was actually the one to make the gayest song in kpop, most of us wouldnt believe it nor consider it a possibility. She is not shying away from putting out this kid of art while being well aware of the gay rumours around her and her group in general

I am proud of her
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The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.
That’s why I said gayest not the most lesbian song
What moonbyul did was legendary. Writing and singing about a lesbian relationship and saying it out loud that the song is a love song between women. I think that cannot be topped especially that it was so specific to lesbians and not a generic song about love is love or whatever. Solar didnt sing about lesbians specifically but her song is unapologetically rooted in gay culture. Twinks or not. In a homophobic country, you dont have the luxury of having a lesbian community without having some overlaps with gay men too. Also, why are you calling her a straight woman obsessed with twinks? She isnt bey nor lady gaga. The majority of her stans are women and she knows that. She def does not have a reason to cater to the male gays. And straight men most def wont like this song lol. Did you ask yourself why would solar get super involved and interested in the gay scene in korea that she made her comeback about it. Then she goes on interviews talking about how she hates her country’s conservatism? Is she too obsessed with gay men to the point that she wants to represent them and criticize her deeply homophobic country just for them? (Again considering that she might likely get a backlash from the gp without having gay men stanning her so much to back her up)
Tiffany also does this. I think she's more outspoken actually. I am only mentioning her because she's mainstream, there are folks like seori who literally have same sex couples making out in their mv includes gays and lesbians. So many other artists have open support towards wlw couples in their art. Solar's ballroom rep is more geared towards twinks and gay men. Drag culture attracts straight women in droves because it's hyper feminine and has very little interest for cis men so it automatically is a safe haven . Chungha also did it before solar. Sadly nothing about the song or the lyrics indicated anything in it for the lesbians. Am I disappointed? Yes. Do I discount the support for lgbtq community ? Heck no, proud af of homegirl to do this on national TV. Just wished for more lesbian rep
Damn please no taeny flashbacks. That was a rough period for some of us

You and me both anon. That was not a good time for us shippers. It was brutal

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Part 2 on Siyeon
- This interaction with the only member in the group who is actually out as pan.

- Whatever her fixation with the bassist girl from her high school band from over a decade ago is.

- Her being the only one who has shot down questions about having any interest in dating a man, getting put on the spot during an interview and teased by a member about not wanting to get married because of her members to which she responded very curtly that it's because she has her own life and Gahyeon making her add a "for now", her repeatedly trying to maneuver past an interviewer trying to imply she liked Captain America because she found him attractive till she finally gave up and just said "it's not like that, absolutely not" and then refusing to even consider him in the running for her ideal man but refering to her favorite actress's primarily queer coded/explicitly queer characters as her ideal women. Her being the only member in the highly sus members of the group who has never mentioned men at any point.
- she is the only member to have actually shown pride flags in her vlogs and posted one. She also wore limited edition pride shoes during pride month for a national broadcast despite the shoes stylistically offering nothing to the outfit. The only other member to have worn pride merch is Yoohyeon. In general ahe wears rainbow accessories the most which imo could mean nothing or could mean a lot.
- aside from that her disinterest in men and dating is something that has been consistent since minx. She was very uncomfortable doing paired choreo parts with a guy, she has not once shown an ounce of excitement about her supposed favorite boy group members when she met them outside of politeness and admiring them for their music but had a meltdown about Hyorin and Lina. On being asked about her bias in ateez she gave the fan a weird look and responded "I like their songs"
- she also very pointedly refused to sing the word man during a vlive for whatever reason.

- Siyeon's reasoning for picking Gahyeon as who she'd introduce to her hypothetical brother being "if he's anything like me" only for everyone to immediately start asking her if she was drunk.
- to me she has always pinged irl and a majority of queer people have picked up on it. Siyeon also behaves a lot gayer in general if you ask any long term queer fan who has seen her live or looked past just the aesthetics.
- I also think it's wild to view her as a het girl who just likes comfortable clothes when Dami has almost no receipts and also only really seems to like comfortable sports wear for the aesthetics.

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DA both her and Siyeon never pinged to me until dc and Siyeon still doesn't while Dami for sure does now. If I had to bet money on one member of that group being wlw it would for sure be on Dami. Are there any more real receipts on Siyeon because to me she just looks like a typical straight girl who dresses comfortably but I'm also not too deep in the fandom. All I got from the dc thread is her looking at other members which I always consider very weak evidence since they've all been friends for so long.

Personally I think Dami's receipts are pretty weak because there really aren't any actual receipts outside of her being friends with one lesbian who all the members are also friends with, some vibes and the occasional heavy duty fanservice aimed at women. And Dami has gay baited quite a lot actually. She is just more lowkey about it.

As for Siyeon, you are free to believe whatever you want, I don't particularly care all that much. But if you actually want then sure, here's some of shit she has said and done over the years. Part 1.
- gave handmade heart shaped chocolates to a school friend she had a crush on when she was in a girl's high school.
- this video

- this one

- how does being friends make checking out a woman a heterosexual thing though? Like this girl has barely any friends outside of dc.

- I don't know many straight women who would get hung up on her friend's physique the way she does. I have done it and gotten side eyed for it. She has done it and the members have teased her about it repeatedly.
-In this one Sua even made a joke about them dating because of how gay she started sounding by the end of her monologue.

-Yoohyeon legit laughed in her face over Siyeon's immediate assumption that boys could recognise her because of her body and was surprised that it was actually the bleached hair.

-This response to the interviewer. I repeat I don't know a single straight woman that talks like this.

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Alright fellow hags. I got something to share
If anyone would have told us in 2016-2018ish that yongsun was actually the one to make the gayest song in kpop, most of us wouldnt believe it nor consider it a possibility. She is not shying away from putting out this kid of art while being well aware of the gay rumours around her and her group in general

I am proud of her
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The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.
That’s why I said gayest not the most lesbian song
What moonbyul did was legendary. Writing and singing about a lesbian relationship and saying it out loud that the song is a love song between women. I think that cannot be topped especially that it was so specific to lesbians and not a generic song about love is love or whatever. Solar didnt sing about lesbians specifically but her song is unapologetically rooted in gay culture. Twinks or not. In a homophobic country, you dont have the luxury of having a lesbian community without having some overlaps with gay men too. Also, why are you calling her a straight woman obsessed with twinks? She isnt bey nor lady gaga. The majority of her stans are women and she knows that. She def does not have a reason to cater to the male gays. And straight men most def wont like this song lol. Did you ask yourself why would solar get super involved and interested in the gay scene in korea that she made her comeback about it. Then she goes on interviews talking about how she hates her country’s conservatism? Is she too obsessed with gay men to the point that she wants to represent them and criticize her deeply homophobic country just for them? (Again considering that she might likely get a backlash from the gp without having gay men stanning her so much to back her up)
Tiffany also does this. I think she's more outspoken actually. I am only mentioning her because she's mainstream, there are folks like seori who literally have same sex couples making out in their mv includes gays and lesbians. So many other artists have open support towards wlw couples in their art. Solar's ballroom rep is more geared towards twinks and gay men. Drag culture attracts straight women in droves because it's hyper feminine and has very little interest for cis men so it automatically is a safe haven . Chungha also did it before solar. Sadly nothing about the song or the lyrics indicated anything in it for the lesbians. Am I disappointed? Yes. Do I discount the support for lgbtq community ? Heck no, proud af of homegirl to do this on national TV. Just wished for more lesbian rep
Damn please no taeny flashbacks. That was a rough period for some of us

Solar and Tiffany ally queens now I see it

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How tf is this boring non news relevant to the L CHAT thread? And you hags get off saying Yujin stans fan girling is annoying lmao.
Alright fellow hags. I got something to share
If anyone would have told us in 2016-2018ish that yongsun was actually the one to make the gayest song in kpop, most of us wouldnt believe it nor consider it a possibility. She is not shying away from putting out this kid of art while being well aware of the gay rumours around her and her group in general

I am proud of her
Da
The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.
That’s why I said gayest not the most lesbian song
What moonbyul did was legendary. Writing and singing about a lesbian relationship and saying it out loud that the song is a love song between women. I think that cannot be topped especially that it was so specific to lesbians and not a generic song about love is love or whatever. Solar didnt sing about lesbians specifically but her song is unapologetically rooted in gay culture. Twinks or not. In a homophobic country, you dont have the luxury of having a lesbian community without having some overlaps with gay men too. Also, why are you calling her a straight woman obsessed with twinks? She isnt bey nor lady gaga. The majority of her stans are women and she knows that. She def does not have a reason to cater to the male gays. And straight men most def wont like this song lol. Did you ask yourself why would solar get super involved and interested in the gay scene in korea that she made her comeback about it. Then she goes on interviews talking about how she hates her country’s conservatism? Is she too obsessed with gay men to the point that she wants to represent them and criticize her deeply homophobic country just for them? (Again considering that she might likely get a backlash from the gp without having gay men stanning her so much to back her up)
Tiffany also does this. I think she's more outspoken actually. I am only mentioning her because she's mainstream, there are folks like seori who literally have same sex couples making out in their mv includes gays and lesbians. So many other artists have open support towards wlw couples in their art. Solar's ballroom rep is more geared towards twinks and gay men. Drag culture attracts straight women in droves because it's hyper feminine and has very little interest for cis men so it automatically is a safe haven . Chungha also did it before solar. Sadly nothing about the song or the lyrics indicated anything in it for the lesbians. Am I disappointed? Yes. Do I discount the support for lgbtq community ? Heck no, proud af of homegirl to do this on national TV. Just wished for more lesbian rep

Damn please no taeny flashbacks. That was a rough period for some of us

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This is so funny to me.
Twice Chaeyoung is also getting rid of some

How tf is this boring non news relevant to the L CHAT thread? And you hags get off saying Yujin stans fan girling is annoying lmao.
Alright fellow hags. I got something to share
If anyone would have told us in 2016-2018ish that yongsun was actually the one to make the gayest song in kpop, most of us wouldnt believe it nor consider it a possibility. She is not shying away from putting out this kid of art while being well aware of the gay rumours around her and her group in general

I am proud of her
Da
The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.
That’s why I said gayest not the most lesbian song
What moonbyul did was legendary. Writing and singing about a lesbian relationship and saying it out loud that the song is a love song between women. I think that cannot be topped especially that it was so specific to lesbians and not a generic song about love is love or whatever. Solar didnt sing about lesbians specifically but her song is unapologetically rooted in gay culture. Twinks or not. In a homophobic country, you dont have the luxury of having a lesbian community without having some overlaps with gay men too. Also, why are you calling her a straight woman obsessed with twinks? She isnt bey nor lady gaga. The majority of her stans are women and she knows that. She def does not have a reason to cater to the male gays. And straight men most def wont like this song lol. Did you ask yourself why would solar get super involved and interested in the gay scene in korea that she made her comeback about it. Then she goes on interviews talking about how she hates her country’s conservatism? Is she too obsessed with gay men to the point that she wants to represent them and criticize her deeply homophobic country just for them? (Again considering that she might likely get a backlash from the gp without having gay men stanning her so much to back her up)

Tiffany also does this. I think she's more outspoken actually. I am only mentioning her because she's mainstream, there are folks like seori who literally have same sex couples making out in their mv includes gays and lesbians. So many other artists have open support towards wlw couples in their art. Solar's ballroom rep is more geared towards twinks and gay men. Drag culture attracts straight women in droves because it's hyper feminine and has very little interest for cis men so it automatically is a safe haven . Chungha also did it before solar. Sadly nothing about the song or the lyrics indicated anything in it for the lesbians. Am I disappointed? Yes. Do I discount the support for lgbtq community ? Heck no, proud af of homegirl to do this on national TV. Just wished for more lesbian rep

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Jeongyeon chaeyoung
Seulgi
Moonbyul
Dami
Miya
Ryujin
Karina Winter
Kim lip, chuu, yves
Soojin

Some girls naturally developed into the gay role because of their own volition
Winter is absolutely not gay occupying any gat role. The only gayness comes because of winrina who is the middest ship, annyeongz tier
Karina was never supposed to be "gay" she chose to be that because she loves women or whatever it is with her.
What has seulgi done except being a bit of a tomboyish arthoe?
Dami also naturally pings a lot and i don't think she gaybaits.
Jeongyeon pings as fuck and it's no coïncidence she was supposed to be the "girlcrush" member, but she started to hate it and it's kinda sad cause no one can deny how tomboy she is and how she pings, she suits that vibe better than feminity but that's just my opinion.
To me Girlcrush is less about your sense of style and more about how the idol caries themselves. I am talking about the dominance, swagger and confidence.
I mean think about it Jeongyeon never had the nonchalant flirtyness or confidence of a ryujin or the dominance authority of jihyo.
Whenever jeongyeon was asked to do something gurlcrushy she always looked like a Deer caught in headlights.
Like she never really understood what people expected of her.
Beside her personal style Jeongyeon was very unfit for the role.

Jeongyeon's thing is complex because she is naturally a tomboy but the fact that will bother her that they called her "oppa" is due to her childhood trauma. Jeongyeon said that during elementary school she suffered bullying at school because of her original birth name Kyung- Wan sounded like a man's name, which is why she decided to change her name. There is also the fact that many fans called her oppa and hyung as a joke. If I were in Jeongyeon's situation, I would also reject that role.

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God yall still posting Karina Ryujin?? Go back to twitter or post in their thread. No one cares about them queerbaiters, they're most likely fucking a guy rn.

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Jeongyeon chaeyoung
Seulgi
Moonbyul
Dami
Miya
Ryujin
Karina Winter
Kim lip, chuu, yves
Soojin

Some girls naturally developed into the gay role because of their own volition
Winter is absolutely not gay occupying any gat role. The only gayness comes because of winrina who is the middest ship, annyeongz tier
Karina was never supposed to be "gay" she chose to be that because she loves women or whatever it is with her.
What has seulgi done except being a bit of a tomboyish arthoe?
Dami also naturally pings a lot and i don't think she gaybaits.
Jeongyeon pings as fuck and it's no coïncidence she was supposed to be the "girlcrush" member, but she started to hate it and it's kinda sad cause no one can deny how tomboy she is and how she pings, she suits that vibe better than feminity but that's just my opinion.

To me Girlcrush is less about your sense of style and more about how the idol caries themselves. I am talking about the dominance, swagger and confidence.
I mean think about it Jeongyeon never had the nonchalant flirtyness or confidence of a ryujin or the dominance authority of jihyo.
Whenever jeongyeon was asked to do something gurlcrushy she always looked like a Deer caught in headlights.
Like she never really understood what people expected of her.
Beside her personal style Jeongyeon was very unfit for the role.

by **Guest** » Today, 03:35

I liked the gaybait trend of ryujin starting 2024 i'm sad it's over

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Jeongyeon chaeyoung
Seulgi
Moonbyul
Dami
Miya
Ryujin
Karina Winter
Kim lip, chuu, yves
Soojin

Some girls naturally developed into the gay role because of their own volition
Winter is absolutely not gay occupying any gat role. The only gayness comes because of winrina who is the middest ship, annyeongz tier
Karina was never supposed to be "gay" she chose to be that because she loves women or whatever it is with her.
What has seulgi done except being a bit of a tomboyish arthoe?
Dami also naturally pings a lot and i don't think she gaybaits.
Jeongyeon pings as fuck and it's no coïncidence she was supposed to be the "girlcrush" member, but she started to hate it and it's kinda sad cause no one can deny how tomboy she is and how she pings, she suits that vibe better than feminity but that's just my opinion.

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Jeongyeon chaeyoung
Seulgi
Moonbyul
Dami
Miya
Ryujin
Karina Winter
Kim lip, chuu, yves
Soojin

Only JY have a problem with it. Others girl like Chaeyoung, Yves, Karina, Ryujin and ofc Moonbyul seems doesn’t mind. Kpop can queerbait all they want but can they atleast chose a members who is comfortable with it? I feel bad for Jeongyeon because when I was a baby ONCEs, she hated being associated with masculine terms. She cry at fansign because fans call her “oppa” or “handsome”

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Jeongyeon chaeyoung
Seulgi
Moonbyul
Dami
Miya
Ryujin
Karina Winter
Kim lip, chuu, yves
Soojin

It's funnier when you take into account their og debut with Minx where their concept was very much for the male gaze. I find Dami didn't ping for me at all during that period. To me she only started pinging around the end of their debut year as DC.
I am really curious about Soojin. Girlie was giving major sapphic vibes back in gidle and then went and got a rainbow tattooed on her wrist. I don't think she's a lesbian obviously but I swear if it's a tattoo of a rainbow cause she just happens to like them or about new beginnings I will lose my shit.

DA both her and Siyeon never pinged to me until dc and Siyeon still doesn't while Dami for sure does now. If I had to bet money on one member of that group being wlw it would for sure be on Dami. Are there any more real receipts on Siyeon because to me she just looks like a typical straight girl who dresses comfortably but I'm also not too deep in the fandom. All I got from the dc thread is her looking at other members which I always consider very weak evidence since they've all been friends for so long.

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Jeongyeon chaeyoung
Seulgi
Moonbyul
Dami
Miya
Ryujin
Karina Winter
Kim lip, chuu, yves
Soojin

It's funnier when you take into account their og debut with Minx where their concept was very much for the male gaze. I find Dami didn't ping for me at all during that period. To me she only started pinging around the end of their debut year as DC.
I am really curious about Soojin. Girlie was giving major sapphic vibes back in gidle and then went and got a rainbow tattooed on her wrist. I don't think she's a lesbian obviously but I swear if it's a tattoo of a rainbow cause she just happens to like them or about new beginnings I will lose my shit.

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Jeongyeon chaeyoung
Seulgi
Moonbyul
Dami
Miya
Ryujin
Karina Winter
Kim lip, chuu, yves
Soojin

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 20:46

Moonsun shippers are climbing ever higher in delirium

They have several threads, go there and don't bother here.

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This is so funny to me.
Twice Chaeyoung is also getting rid of some

How tf is this boring non news relevant to the L CHAT thread? And you hags get off saying Yujin stans fan girling is annoying lmao.
Alright fellow hags. I got something to share
If anyone would have told us in 2016-2018ish that yongsun was actually the one to make the gayest song in kpop, most of us wouldnt believe it nor consider it a possibility. She is not shying away from putting out this kid of art while being well aware of the gay rumours around her and her group in general

I am proud of her
Da
The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.

That’s why I said gayest not the most lesbian song
What moonbyul did was legendary. Writing and singing about a lesbian relationship and saying it out loud that the song is a love song between women. I think that cannot be topped especially that it was so specific to lesbians and not a generic song about love is love or whatever. Solar didnt sing about lesbians specifically but her song is unapologetically rooted in gay culture. Twinks or not. In a homophobic country, you dont have the luxury of having a lesbian community without having some overlaps with gay men too. Also, why are you calling her a straight woman obsessed with twinks? She isnt bey nor lady gaga. The majority of her stans are women and she knows that. She def does not have a reason to cater to the male gays. And straight men most def wont like this song lol. Did you ask yourself why would solar get super involved and interested in the gay scene in korea that she made her comeback about it. Then she goes on interviews talking about how she hates her country’s conservatism? Is she too obsessed with gay men to the point that she wants to represent them and criticize her deeply homophobic country just for them? (Again considering that she might likely get a backlash from the gp without having gay men stanning her so much to back her up)

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I’m pretty sure there are gays in the popular group but the chances of them coming out is zero unless they become irrelevant in the future. The only one who was basically out is Moonbyul but I don’t think she’s brave enough to fully come out like the western artist did, it’s too risky for her career. I don’t think it’s fair for us to uphold this K-pop idols for some standard, we are not even from South Korea, we don’t know how does it feel like living there. The least that they can do is support LGBTQ but even that is kinda risky in itself, Sunmi literally got shoved back inside the closet during their concert and some female idols get hate on for reading a feminist book. After years of being in this thread, my advise is don’t take this thread too seriously or expect any of these girls that get discussed to came out. I’m a 2nd gen stan and most of us are sure that Yubin is lesbian but she’s probably bisexual or deep in the closet.
What annoys me and low key makes me despise korea and koreans, is that kpop tries so hard to appeal to the west, to copy the west, but they don't have the mentality at all, zero courage, zero openness. If some idols are LGB they must probably know a bit about eachother, and could very well contribute to speak up in a coordinate way to be protected in case their careers get threatened. If everyone supports eachother, nobody will fall kind of. But they have 0 fucking courage. Like Rosé, Australian idol who nobody in korea could give a fuck about wether she supports gay rights or not, can't even answer "yes" to a question ("do you support gay rights"). It is so pathetic.
But I see idols are less and less afraid. Imo it's 100% the CEO's fault and not much the idols (who are still cowards but ok), because all these cult things i think make them force idols to shut up. While still gaybaiting to hell and take the int fans money.
Groups that are heavily appeal to the West usually do so because they aren’t popular in South Korea. But K-pop idols or agencies literally do not give 2 fucks about these intl fans, they aren’t the one who contribute the most profit to the company, it’s always the Korean and Chinese fans. And mind you, some company like MHJ mention literally would choke on homophobic incel’s d**k just so that these male fans would buy their albums and attend fansign. If K-pop idols actually care about intl fans they would apologize for all the racist stuff they done
Economics anon. Western currency is desirable with the exchange rate with the Korean won.

About them queerbaiting and appealing to the western LGBT fans it's just pink money every idol under the sun does it upto some extent. We are and will always be wiling cash cows in part due to our delusions and in part due to our hope for legit visibility. Tbh we shouldn't be expecting it from this industry but who's gonna tell that to millions of hormonal charged teens spilling their dollars at the sight of every rainbow

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Both Karina and Wonyoung have had plastic surgery done, it's obvious. Whether person A or person B find any of them attractive is subjective, as always. I just don't get why people sit here and say "they're natural", let's be fucking for real for a second.
They -Karina Wonyoung- both had extensive plastic surgery because they were quite ugly when young. But they are in big companies and have delulu stans so plastic talk is dismissed as trolling or fake news. Trump uses the same tactic to cover up his evil.
Both women are desperate for fame and will do anything for it including faking it and baiting gay fans which is common in kpop. Not a true reflection of their real personality or sexuality. They are very different in private and IRL.
As long as they have blind stand it is all good, but stans will fade as they get old.
90% of gen 1 and 2 idols are totally forgotten.
Projecting hard girl
Also gen 1/2 idols didn't have half the fame that karina and wonyoung have. Not even a 10th. These two will be fine at 30 and even 40 while you'll remain bottom tier. Seethe!

Lee Hyori had more fame than Karina will ever have. Putting Karina next to Wonyoung they're not even the same league.

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Da
The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.
While I agree that Moonbyul still takes the crown, I think you don't understand the concept of ballroom culture which includes houses with genres of Butches and Women. Ballroom isn't *for* twinks, since a long time with the inclusion of latinos and black people the houses had a growth to what I mentioned before. It is a lesbian activity too. The platform she did for houses was different from what we saw before and that's the fun part.
da Were there butches or other women in the mv? I'm sorry but you're reaching. She did not think of lesbians when she made that.
Lol. Yeah, it seemed the target audience was drag performers, gay men and maybe lesbians. Definitely didn't seem targeted towards wlw folks. Missed opportunity maybe ? Overall I think a great show of allyship towards the community. Kudos to that.

Byuls song was so explicit it left no ambiguity in terms of it's target audience while Solars song seems for a broader audience
Da drag and ballroom was created for the queers and trannys. It's why straight women love it. It doesn't appeal to political lesbians in large because it's hyperfeminine and political lesbians in general don't like drag queens because of the misogyny.

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Alright fellow hags. I got something to share
If anyone would have told us in 2016-2018ish that yongsun was actually the one to make the gayest song in kpop, most of us wouldnt believe it nor consider it a possibility. She is not shying away from putting out this kid of art while being well aware of the gay rumours around her and her group in general

I am proud of her
Da
The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.
While I agree that Moonbyul still takes the crown, I think you don't understand the concept of ballroom culture which includes houses with genres of Butches and Women. Ballroom isn't *for* twinks, since a long time with the inclusion of latinos and black people the houses had a growth to what I mentioned before. It is a lesbian activity too. The platform she did for houses was different from what we saw before and that's the fun part.
da Were there butches or other women in the mv? I'm sorry but you're reaching. She did not think of lesbians when she made that.
Lol. Yeah, it seemed the target audience was drag performers, gay men and maybe lesbians. Definitely didn't seem targeted towards wlw folks. Missed opportunity maybe ? Overall I think a great show of allyship towards the community. Kudos to that.

Byuls song was so explicit it left no ambiguity in terms of it's target audience while Solars song seems for a broader audience

Da drag and ballroom was created for the queers and trannys. It's why straight women love it. It doesn't appeal to lesbians in large because it's hyperfeminine and feminist lesbians in general don't like drag queens because of the misogyny.

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Both Karina and Wonyoung have had plastic surgery done, it's obvious. Whether person A or person B find any of them attractive is subjective, as always. I just don't get why people sit here and say "they're natural", let's be fucking for real for a second.
They -Karina Wonyoung- both had extensive plastic surgery because they were quite ugly when young. But they are in big companies and have delulu stans so plastic talk is dismissed as trolling or fake news. Trump uses the same tactic to cover up his evil.
Both women are desperate for fame and will do anything for it including faking it and baiting gay fans which is common in kpop. Not a true reflection of their real personality or sexuality. They are very different in private and IRL.
As long as they have blind stand it is all good, but stans will fade as they get old.
90% of gen 1 and 2 idols are totally forgotten.

Projecting hard girl
Also gen 1/2 idols didn't have half the fame that karina and wonyoung have. Not even a 10th. These two will be fine at 30 and even 40 while you'll remain bottom tier. Seethe!

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Both Karina and Wonyoung have had plastic surgery done, it's obvious. Whether person A or person B find any of them attractive is subjective, as always. I just don't get why people sit here and say "they're natural", let's be fucking for real for a second.

They -Karina Wonyoung- both had extensive plastic surgery because they were quite ugly when young. But they are in big companies and have delulu stans so plastic talk is dismissed as trolling or fake news. Trump uses the same tactic to cover up his evil.
Both women are desperate for fame and will do anything for it including faking it and baiting gay fans which is common in kpop. Not a true reflection of their real personality or sexuality. They are very different in private and IRL.
As long as they have blind stand it is all good, but stans will fade as they get old.
90% of gen 1 and 2 idols are totally forgotten.

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Every idol had gotten some kind of work done, so does it even matter? Pretty is pretty whether natural or not. Anyways, here’s my favorite pretty girl

A girl this pretty and Yujin can't even give a glimpse Although tbf Yujin is a goddess herself. Her Baeksang photo is chef kiss. No wonder WY was extra attentive in that univesity schedule.

They’ve both been looking extra pretty lately with their current makeup style (even though the outfits are ugly

) They seen to be interacting a bit more this comeback, and with Yujin surprisingly being the one to initial

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Idk but she likes to stare at women i think

i think her staring is just her zoning out, i often see her like that
In that vid, her eyes were moving down to up. It's not zoning out

Yeah lol you really want wonyoung to be straight that bad if that's zoning out to you. Straight women can look at other women and be straight so no need to pretend she isn't looking.

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Idk but she likes to stare at women i think

i think her staring is just her zoning out, i often see her like that

In that vid, her eyes were moving down to up. It's not zoning out

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Idk but she likes to stare at women i think

i think her staring is just her zoning out, i often see her like that

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I’m pretty sure there are gays in the popular group but the chances of them coming out is zero unless they become irrelevant in the future. The only one who was basically out is Moonbyul but I don’t think she’s brave enough to fully come out like the western artist did, it’s too risky for her career. I don’t think it’s fair for us to uphold this K-pop idols for some standard, we are not even from South Korea, we don’t know how does it feel like living there. The least that they can do is support LGBTQ but even that is kinda risky in itself, Sunmi literally got shoved back inside the closet during their concert and some female idols get hate on for reading a feminist book. After years of being in this thread, my advise is don’t take this thread too seriously or expect any of these girls that get discussed to came out. I’m a 2nd gen stan and most of us are sure that Yubin is lesbian but she’s probably bisexual or deep in the closet.
What annoys me and low key makes me despise korea and koreans, is that kpop tries so hard to appeal to the west, to copy the west, but they don't have the mentality at all, zero courage, zero openness. If some idols are LGB they must probably know a bit about eachother, and could very well contribute to speak up in a coordinate way to be protected in case their careers get threatened. If everyone supports eachother, nobody will fall kind of. But they have 0 fucking courage. Like Rosé, Australian idol who nobody in korea could give a fuck about wether she supports gay rights or not, can't even answer "yes" to a question ("do you support gay rights"). It is so pathetic.
But I see idols are less and less afraid. Imo it's 100% the CEO's fault and not much the idols (who are still cowards but ok), because all these cult things i think make them force idols to shut up. While still gaybaiting to hell and take the int fans money.
Groups that are heavily appeal to the West usually do so because they aren’t popular in South Korea. But K-pop idols or agencies literally do not give 2 fucks about these intl fans, they aren’t the one who contribute the most profit to the company, it’s always the Korean and Chinese fans. And mind you, some company like MHJ mention literally would choke on homophobic incel’s d**k just so that these male fans would buy their albums and attend fansign. If K-pop idols actually care about intl fans they would apologize for all the racist stuff they done

Economics anon. Western currency is desirable with the exchange rate with the Korean won.

About them queerbaiting and appealing to the western LGBT fans it's just pink money every idol under the sun does it upto some extent. We are and will always be wiling cash cows in part due to our delusions and in part due to our hope for legit visibility. Tbh we shouldn't be expecting it from this industry but who's gonna tell that to millions of hormonal charged teens spilling their dollars at the sight of every rainbow

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How tf is this boring non news relevant to the L CHAT thread? And you hags get off saying Yujin stans fan girling is annoying lmao.
Alright fellow hags. I got something to share
If anyone would have told us in 2016-2018ish that yongsun was actually the one to make the gayest song in kpop, most of us wouldnt believe it nor consider it a possibility. She is not shying away from putting out this kid of art while being well aware of the gay rumours around her and her group in general

I am proud of her
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The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.
While I agree that Moonbyul still takes the crown, I think you don't understand the concept of ballroom culture which includes houses with genres of Butches and Women. Ballroom isn't *for* twinks, since a long time with the inclusion of latinos and black people the houses had a growth to what I mentioned before. It is a lesbian activity too. The platform she did for houses was different from what we saw before and that's the fun part.
da Were there butches or other women in the mv? I'm sorry but you're reaching. She did not think of lesbians when she made that.

Eh yes? Did you even watch the mv at all? Or the live performances? I think you're just talking nonsense

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How tf is this boring non news relevant to the L CHAT thread? And you hags get off saying Yujin stans fan girling is annoying lmao.
Alright fellow hags. I got something to share
If anyone would have told us in 2016-2018ish that yongsun was actually the one to make the gayest song in kpop, most of us wouldnt believe it nor consider it a possibility. She is not shying away from putting out this kid of art while being well aware of the gay rumours around her and her group in general

I am proud of her
Da
The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.
While I agree that Moonbyul still takes the crown, I think you don't understand the concept of ballroom culture which includes houses with genres of Butches and Women. Ballroom isn't *for* twinks, since a long time with the inclusion of latinos and black people the houses had a growth to what I mentioned before. It is a lesbian activity too. The platform she did for houses was different from what we saw before and that's the fun part.
da Were there butches or other women in the mv? I'm sorry but you're reaching. She did not think of lesbians when she made that.

Lol. Yeah, it seemed the target audience was drag performers, gay men and maybe lesbians. Definitely didn't seem targeted towards wlw folks. Missed opportunity maybe ? Overall I think a great show of allyship towards the community. Kudos to that.

Byuls song was so explicit it left no ambiguity in terms of it's target audience while Solars song seems for a broader audience

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Hi, I’m new here. What’s your thoughts on Bona?

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Hi, I’m new here. What’s your thoughts on Bona?

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Wonyoung only pays attention to Yujin. Bitch is a scammer too Yujin was so amazed and happy Annyeongz pulled the same heart, not knowing WY was peeking at her the whole time. You can't convince me WY is not aware of her crush on Yujin lol

Can you please post that one tweet/video of wonyoung "checking out" yujin on a stage? I need it for science purposes.

this?

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This is so funny to me.
Twice Chaeyoung is also getting rid of some

How tf is this boring non news relevant to the L CHAT thread? And you hags get off saying Yujin stans fan girling is annoying lmao.
Alright fellow hags. I got something to share
If anyone would have told us in 2016-2018ish that yongsun was actually the one to make the gayest song in kpop, most of us wouldnt believe it nor consider it a possibility. She is not shying away from putting out this kid of art while being well aware of the gay rumours around her and her group in general

I am proud of her
Da
The gayest song in kpop for who? Twinks. No lesbian cares about that when straight women love being allies for gay men and do nothing for lesbians. Let's not disrespect Moonbyul and Shutdown which is blatantly about lesbian sex, making it deserving of the title of gayest song in kpop.
While I agree that Moonbyul still takes the crown, I think you don't understand the concept of ballroom culture which includes houses with genres of Butches and Women. Ballroom isn't *for* twinks, since a long time with the inclusion of latinos and black people the houses had a growth to what I mentioned before. It is a lesbian activity too. The platform she did for houses was different from what we saw before and that's the fun part.

da Were there butches or other women in the mv? I'm sorry but you're reaching. She did not think of lesbians when she made that.

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 07:38

Idk but she likes to stare at women i think

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 07:31

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Wonyoung only pays attention to Yujin. Bitch is a scammer too Yujin was so amazed and happy Annyeongz pulled the same heart, not knowing WY was peeking at her the whole time. You can't convince me WY is not aware of her crush on Yujin lol

Can you please post that one tweet/video of wonyoung "checking out" yujin on a stage? I need it for science purposes.

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