Korean Entertainment - Part II

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Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » 41 minutes ago

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What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)


Xiao Ting- het. I disagree on her being homophobic though, maybe hetnormative. She is close to Handong and DC don't stay friends with homophobic people (eg. the Sera/DC fallout which didn't even come out of private discord chats and Sera's patreon).
What happened? :blinkwide:
Sera got close to DC in 2019 and Dami being a social butterfly hung out with her a few times. Fans jokingly started shipping them and Sera got real pissed off about it. She made a bunch of remarks about it on her Patreon and even made a comment about asking the girls how they were okay with having a large gay following. All this happened on her Patreon and was shared in the somnie discord back in 2021 so it never quite came out into the public though people had been saying she's lowkey homophobic for a while. After that she stopped receiving any PR packages from DC and stopped reacting to them. She unfollowed DC and Dami unfollowed her on insta. She reacted to multiple DC mvs recently and talked about feeling sad when she looked at them. She's also really REALLY religious and was the guest speaker at a Catholic church a while ago.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 14:56

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What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)


Xiao Ting- het. I disagree on her being homophobic though, maybe hetnormative. She is close to Handong and DC don't stay friends with homophobic people (eg. the Sera/DC fallout which didn't even come out of private discord chats and Sera's patreon).
What happened? :blinkwide:

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 14:52

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Sohyun: i don't know the group well nor her but so far she gives straight, who has questioned/is questioning herself, arthoe, makes every single thing a poem type of girl.

Yuqi: bisexual. That song idgaf if it goes no homo at the end, it's a solo song i presume she chose or wrote, she could've done any other song. If it's gay fanservice it's lame. I think she's bi and maybe wishes she was more out or whatever.

Soyeon: bi

Siyeon: lesbian, i'm gonna trust dc fans + gives lesbian vibes.

Dami: no idea tbh but some people say she's gay too...

Moon sua : no idea.

Xiao ting: wow... I'd say she's straight but open minded. I don't know much of her but I know she has no problem with gay fanservice at all, but I see her more as having fun (straight) than her actually being gay
She's actually homophobic
Well prove it or shut up
DA - So you'd be ok with some online incel asking you about an imaginary sexual relationship with your friend & co-worker that they made up in their heads. No wonder she was creeped out. Stop tagging idols in your fan fics and then getting offended that they think you are deranged.

Also, since you appear to be an ignorant I-fan: "China/South Korean national law does not recognize same-sex marriage or civil unions."

It's not homophobic when real people don't want to participate in your maladaptive daydream and tell you in polite terms to stop being a creep. Only a sick person who treats them like fantasy dolls would be offended by this.
da I have to agree. I actually would prefer it if more idols did this instead of giggling and joking about getting married although they know very well it's not possible. Makes me feel like gay people are just a joke to them.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 14:39

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DA they're both boring with weak vocals. They make boring ringtone/tiktok music. But apparently enough people love that shit.
Da. I mean that’s your opinion, I absolutely love everything newjeans has put out and I’m a very eclectic music consumer.

There’s a reason why critics love them and it for sure isn’t because they put out “boring tiktok music”, that’s your take bc you probably enjoy noisier stuff and can’t catch the nuances and references in newjeans music.
Da critics loving them means absolutely nothing. Most of them get paid by big companies to write praise about kpop groups and their music. Just like how critics aren’t allowed to write anything bad about Taylor swift
Right the payola must be exclusively for newjeans apparently cause lsrfm, BTS, SVT and the rest don’t get the same critics. :eyeroll:
Also, I’m not talking just about critics I’m talking actual music buffs in sites like albumoftheyear or rateyourmusic (where taylor gets shitted on). Independent music producers that react to them on youtube as well etc. People who actually consume a lot of music.

But no one’s forcing you to like them lmao
da I'm sorry but why are you acting like a couple of music rating sites for nerds are the be and end all of music opinions? New Jeans ratings on rateyourmusic aren't even much higher than Taylor's to be acting like they're untouchable. There is no objective music opinion you should stop being so defensive over someone not liking their music and pulling a "you have to have a high iq to understand New Jeans" lol
I’m only defensive about the payola thing, the rest I couldn’t care less if you think their music is shit. It’s your individual opinion and it changes nothing about mine.

And yes those sites, albumoftheyear especially, have weight to them just like letterboxed has for movies. It’s a collective of music nerds. If you wanna be dumb about it be dumb about it, cause at the end of the day Newjeans music isn’t basic lazy tiktok music as much as you want it to be 🤷🏽‍♀️

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by guest » Today, 13:45

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Koreans being on MHJ side makes sense when you conclude they don't think she is a p3do, cause that has always been the strongest point against her character for international fans. Otherwise, everything she said makes sense and definitely paints HYBE as the issue.
DA
Corrections : 4 oldest newjeans members were preparing to debut as NJ in Source until BHS decided to scrap the project and make a new one around the 2 izone girls (fatmanbang pdnim quite obviously decided he was going to copy IVE and get his own group of 170+ girls with 2 izone members).
Hyein is the only one that was only ever in ador.
And apparently ador paid back source for the training i think one if the articles said? Anyway, the real reason gfiend disbanded is because the men with actual power at source thought getting sakura on board and flying people around to europe to recruit a girl with a pretty face and no idol training was the better investment.
Tbh, he would be right to feel threatened. If NJ disbands, who's going to be the new Top Dog in the industry? Certainly not LSM. IVE or Aespa - most likely IVE.
Da i just casual fan and want to say i hate hybe and bg stans are annoying as fish esp @rmy. I can't listen or watch leeserafim at all. Who debut them are brainless. Just like bt$ they just popular because of payola. Ruining music and kpop standard. What so bad about training, lazy ceo m3n. I think i can accept nj more. How many m3n mhj has to fight with in hybe? At least mhj has vision unlike that fat m3n. M3n in sk are really shitty. I just want women have better future in sk, not below than m3n but actually get to be on same level yk..

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 13:44

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It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit
DA they're both boring with weak vocals. They make boring ringtone/tiktok music. But apparently enough people love that shit.
Da. I mean that’s your opinion, I absolutely love everything newjeans has put out and I’m a very eclectic music consumer.

There’s a reason why critics love them and it for sure isn’t because they put out “boring tiktok music”, that’s your take bc you probably enjoy noisier stuff and can’t catch the nuances and references in newjeans music.
Da critics loving them means absolutely nothing. Most of them get paid by big companies to write praise about kpop groups and their music. Just like how critics aren’t allowed to write anything bad about Taylor swift
Right the payola must be exclusively for newjeans apparently cause lsrfm, BTS, SVT and the rest don’t get the same critics. :eyeroll:
Also, I’m not talking just about critics I’m talking actual music buffs in sites like albumoftheyear or rateyourmusic (where taylor gets shitted on). Independent music producers that react to them on youtube as well etc. People who actually consume a lot of music.

But no one’s forcing you to like them lmao
da I'm sorry but why are you acting like a couple of music rating sites for nerds are the be and end all of music opinions? New Jeans ratings on rateyourmusic aren't even much higher than Taylor's to be acting like they're untouchable. There is no objective music opinion you should stop being so defensive over someone not liking their music and pulling a "you have to have a high iq to understand New Jeans" lol

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 13:21

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It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit
DA they're both boring with weak vocals. They make boring ringtone/tiktok music. But apparently enough people love that shit.
Da. I mean that’s your opinion, I absolutely love everything newjeans has put out and I’m a very eclectic music consumer.

There’s a reason why critics love them and it for sure isn’t because they put out “boring tiktok music”, that’s your take bc you probably enjoy noisier stuff and can’t catch the nuances and references in newjeans music.
Da critics loving them means absolutely nothing. Most of them get paid by big companies to write praise about kpop groups and their music. Just like how critics aren’t allowed to write anything bad about Taylor swift
Right the payola must be exclusively for newjeans apparently cause lsrfm, BTS, SVT and the rest don’t get the same critics. :eyeroll:
Also, I’m not talking just about critics I’m talking actual music buffs in sites like albumoftheyear or rateyourmusic (where taylor gets shitted on). Independent music producers that react to them on youtube as well etc. People who actually consume a lot of music.

But no one’s forcing you to like them lmao

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 10:28

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What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun: i don't know the group well nor her but so far she gives straight, who has questioned/is questioning herself, arthoe, makes every single thing a poem type of girl.

Yuqi: bisexual. That song idgaf if it goes no homo at the end, it's a solo song i presume she chose or wrote, she could've done any other song. If it's gay fanservice it's lame. I think she's bi and maybe wishes she was more out or whatever.

Soyeon: bi

Siyeon: lesbian, i'm gonna trust dc fans + gives lesbian vibes.

Dami: no idea tbh but some people say she's gay too...

Moon sua : no idea.

Xiao ting: wow... I'd say she's straight but open minded. I don't know much of her but I know she has no problem with gay fanservice at all, but I see her more as having fun (straight) than her actually being gay
She's actually homophobic
Well prove it or shut up
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DA - So you'd be ok with some online incel asking you about an imaginary sexual relationship with your friend & co-worker that they made up in their heads. No wonder she was creeped out. Stop tagging idols in your fan fics and then getting offended that they think you are deranged.

Also, since you appear to be an ignorant I-fan: "China/South Korean national law does not recognize same-sex marriage or civil unions."

It's not homophobic when real people don't want to participate in your maladaptive daydream and tell you in polite terms to stop being a creep. Only a sick person who treats them like fantasy dolls would be offended by this.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 07:59

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What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun- gives me het over zealous ally for now. But I can see her turning out to be fam. I don't follow them well enough just yet so probably there is stuff I don't know yet.

Yuqi- even the anon who brought up the stylist stuff isn't sure if anything means anything cause the only actually sus thing there was the elevator. A lot of idols do wear their stylist's clothes etc. Very confused about her.

Soyeon- agreed with others. She is bi with a male preference. Like she is sapphic enough to acknowledge she finds women attractive but will probably not date one.

Siyeon- pings through the roof in person. She is either a lesbian or bi with a very strong preference for women. Its not just vibes either, she's been caught on camera checking out women multiple times. That woman is not het.

Dami- at the very least she is bi. She doesn't ping as hard as Siyeon does but she's been changing het lyrics to make them gayer in covers since forever and Siyeon made a remark about her that she knows how to keep a woman happy or something.

Moon Sua- I would actually like to know about her too, I really like her and she has that face.

Xiao Ting- het. I disagree on her being homophobic though, maybe hetnormative. She is close to Handong and DC don't stay friends with homophobic people (eg. the Sera/DC fallout which didn't even come out of private discord chats and Sera's patreon).
Xiao Ting is a friend of Tzuyu and I think Elkie is also a friend
The Chinese /Taiwanese/Hong Kong based idols all have a gc and hang out together (usually during Korean holidays when Korean members all go home or something). So yea most of them are friends with each other.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 07:17

Guest wrote:
Today, 01:49
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Yesterday, 22:23
What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun- gives me het over zealous ally for now. But I can see her turning out to be fam. I don't follow them well enough just yet so probably there is stuff I don't know yet.

Yuqi- even the anon who brought up the stylist stuff isn't sure if anything means anything cause the only actually sus thing there was the elevator. A lot of idols do wear their stylist's clothes etc. Very confused about her.

Soyeon- agreed with others. She is bi with a male preference. Like she is sapphic enough to acknowledge she finds women attractive but will probably not date one.

Siyeon- pings through the roof in person. She is either a lesbian or bi with a very strong preference for women. Its not just vibes either, she's been caught on camera checking out women multiple times. That woman is not het.

Dami- at the very least she is bi. She doesn't ping as hard as Siyeon does but she's been changing het lyrics to make them gayer in covers since forever and Siyeon made a remark about her that she knows how to keep a woman happy or something.

Moon Sua- I would actually like to know about her too, I really like her and she has that face.

Xiao Ting- het. I disagree on her being homophobic though, maybe hetnormative. She is close to Handong and DC don't stay friends with homophobic people (eg. the Sera/DC fallout which didn't even come out of private discord chats and Sera's patreon).
Xiao Ting is a friend of Tzuyu and I think Elkie is also a friend

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 06:36

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Koreans being on MHJ side makes sense when you conclude they don't think she is a p3do, cause that has always been the strongest point against her character for international fans. Otherwise, everything she said makes sense and definitely paints HYBE as the issue.
DA
Corrections : 4 oldest newjeans members were preparing to debut as NJ in Source until BHS decided to scrap the project and make a new one around the 2 izone girls (fatmanbang pdnim quite obviously decided he was going to copy IVE and get his own group of 170+ girls with 2 izone members).
Hyein is the only one that was only ever in ador.
And apparently ador paid back source for the training i think one if the articles said? Anyway, the real reason gfiend disbanded is because the men with actual power at source thought getting sakura on board and flying people around to europe to recruit a girl with a pretty face and no idol training was the better investment.
Tbh, he would be right to feel threatened. If NJ disbands, who's going to be the new Top Dog in the industry? Certainly not LSM. IVE or Aespa - most likely IVE.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 05:54

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Koreans being on MHJ side makes sense when you conclude they don't think she is a p3do, cause that has always been the strongest point against her character for international fans. Otherwise, everything she said makes sense and definitely paints HYBE as the issue.
Wow, great explanation and insight. Besides her pedo tendencies, I think international fans are also pissed off that she name dropped other groups, so they rather side with HYBE and dismiss any valid claims that MHJ may have.

You’re right, she is the passionate creative type that has a very strong vision, and she probably hated how they kept trying to change it. Especially since Bang gave her the impression that she would have creative control. So that’s probably one of the reasons why she wanted to create ADOR cause she thought it would give her that freedom. CEO PJW was still friendly with her at that point and helped Bang and her compromise. Not sure what her contract was before ADOR, but likely didn’t have that strict non-compete so maybe she could have walked if she wasn’t so emotionally invested in pre-NJ. If they didn’t keep on trying to mess with her creative plans, she probably wouldn’t have tried to make ADOR because if her initial goal was to be a CEO she would have created her own company before ever signing with BigHit/Hybe.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 04:10

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Koreans being on MHJ side makes sense when you conclude they don't think she is a p3do, cause that has always been the strongest point against her character for international fans. Otherwise, everything she said makes sense and definitely paints HYBE as the issue.
DA
Corrections : 4 oldest newjeans members were preparing to debut as NJ in Source until BHS decided to scrap the project and make a new one around the 2 izone girls (fatmanbang pdnim quite obviously decided he was going to copy IVE and get his own group of 170+ girls with 2 izone members).
Hyein is the only one that was only ever in ador.
And apparently ador paid back source for the training i think one if the articles said? Anyway, the real reason gfiend disbanded is because the men with actual power at source thought getting sakura on board and flying people around to europe to recruit a girl with a pretty face and no idol training was the better investment.
Da. He was recruiting the Izone girls (+ Minju but she rejected) since early 2021 before Izone even disbanded so I doubt he was trying to copy IVE but saw them as a threat to his little rushed Izone project.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 04:02

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What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun: IDK yet. She seems pretty fresh as potentially sus. I'd consider her one to watch potentially.

Yuqi: Either a very secure straight woman or repressed and now exploring bisexuality. She hangs around other gay women, and like that other anon said, even if her song had a gotcha, she was down to pick out a song for her solo that had her singing her ass off about another woman. I know some people think it's laughing in the face of the gays, but IDK, I feel like the joke's kind of on her because it really just does sound fucking gay even if she was actually trying to no-homo herself at the end.

Soyeon: Bisexual but seems to prefer dating men. Hasn't alluded to an interest in women since releasing Oh My God but I still think she's bi.

Siyeon: She pings and has vibes + receipts. Lesbian or strongly sapphic.

Dami: She's always pinged to me but IDK her receipts.

Moon Sua: I don't think Billie gets discussed here much, but I'd be interested to hear more about them.

Xiao Ting: Another group that doesn't get much discussion so I don't know much about their members.
Agreed on everything here, we really need some billlie and kepler fans to speak up and give us some deets. :lol: Sohyun is someone I have my eye on for now as well.

No one can change my mind that Siyeon had a crush on Sua, she spent way too many years gushing about how attractive Sua was to anyone who'd listen for it to be entirely platonic admiration on her end. There was a reason why people genuinely believed suayeon was real back in the day and a lot of it had to do with how Siyeon acted around her rather than the fanservice.
Dami's receipts aren't that strong but imo decent enough to be taken into consideration given that they are consistent. She built her idol career partly on the premise that she needed to get close to snsd. Siyeon said Dami knows women's hearts well, she changed the lyrics of pepermint chocolate from a girl like me and a boy like you to a girl like me and a girl like you all the way back in 2017, she said she prefers concepts that target women specifically, she, like Siyeon and Yoohyeon, picks up on subtle queer cues immediately and flusters really hard around women she admires. She has done wlw special clips too (love me or leave me where she and Yoohyeon play a couple in the middle of a break up, ping pong cover with Siyeon where she takes on Dawn's parts).

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 04:02

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Min Heejin: Sihyuk said.
Sihyuk: "Big Hit has a lot of female fans because of BTS. We can't make girl group here. Because female fans might be jealous of girl groups. We have to make a girl group label. There is a team that already exists. I will buy a source music label. There is a trainee. If we use an existing trainee, we can make a debut team quickly. Creative is Min, music is Sihyuk, and management is done by the source.
I really want to comment on this quote by Sihyuk because it's a a very common misconception. "Women hate prettier women," and "Women are cruel to each other." It goes without saying that it's an self-fulfilling prophecy. If you raise girls in an ecosystem where you pit them against each other, they're inevitably going to develop hostility towards each other.

There is also this idea that women don't want to admire/cheer for/support other women. I remember this quote from Michael Jackson about Madonna when they were at similar levels of success in the industry, he said something along the lines of, "They admire you and know you are wonderful and great because they are jealous, because they wish they were in your shoes. Madonna is one of them. She is jealous. She is a girl, a woman and I think that's what bothers her...I get the fainting and adulation and she doesn't." His justification for that was that men don't faint and scream because they are too cool for that, and that women don't scream for other women... I truly enjoy how the success of female entertainers in the west. Girl groups have eclipsed boy groups once they've started targeting a female audience, and the biggest entertainers of this century are women. Girls do scream and faint at Taylor Swift's concerts.

Anyway. Women should support other women. Men are thankless.
da But they were right, when it comes to armys they do hate women. Gfriend received so much hate from them because btass mentioned giving food for them once.
I mean that there are women who can love women and most probably have same sex attraction too. That MJ quote hypothesized that it was rare to witness women showing adulation towards female artists. Crazy BG stans are the type of women whom you don't want to get tangled. Nobody calls them out because patriarchy loves them.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 03:58

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Koreans being on MHJ side makes sense when you conclude they don't think she is a p3do, cause that has always been the strongest point against her character for international fans. Otherwise, everything she said makes sense and definitely paints HYBE as the issue.
DA
Corrections : 4 oldest newjeans members were preparing to debut as NJ in Source until BHS decided to scrap the project and make a new one around the 2 izone girls (fatmanbang pdnim quite obviously decided he was going to copy IVE and get his own group of 170+ girls with 2 izone members).
Hyein is the only one that was only ever in ador.
And apparently ador paid back source for the training i think one if the articles said? Anyway, the real reason gfiend disbanded is because the men with actual power at source thought getting sakura on board and flying people around to europe to recruit a girl with a pretty face and no idol training was the better investment.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 03:47

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Yesterday, 21:09
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Yesterday, 19:06
Min Heejin: Sihyuk said.
Sihyuk: "Big Hit has a lot of female fans because of BTS. We can't make girl group here. Because female fans might be jealous of girl groups. We have to make a girl group label. There is a team that already exists. I will buy a source music label. There is a trainee. If we use an existing trainee, we can make a debut team quickly. Creative is Min, music is Sihyuk, and management is done by the source.
I really want to comment on this quote by Sihyuk because it's a a very common misconception. "Women hate prettier women," and "Women are cruel to each other." It goes without saying that it's an self-fulfilling prophecy. If you raise girls in an ecosystem where you pit them against each other, they're inevitably going to develop hostility towards each other.

There is also this idea that women don't want to admire/cheer for/support other women. I remember this quote from Michael Jackson about Madonna when they were at similar levels of success in the industry, he said something along the lines of, "They admire you and know you are wonderful and great because they are jealous, because they wish they were in your shoes. Madonna is one of them. She is jealous. She is a girl, a woman and I think that's what bothers her...I get the fainting and adulation and she doesn't." His justification for that was that men don't faint and scream because they are too cool for that, and that women don't scream for other women... I truly enjoy how the success of female entertainers in the west. Girl groups have eclipsed boy groups once they've started targeting a female audience, and the biggest entertainers of this century are women. Girls do scream and faint at Taylor Swift's concerts.

Anyway. Women should support other women. Men are thankless.
da But they were right, when it comes to armys they do hate women. Gfriend received so much hate from them because btass mentioned giving food for them once.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 03:40

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What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun: i don't know the group well nor her but so far she gives straight, who has questioned/is questioning herself, arthoe, makes every single thing a poem type of girl.

Yuqi: bisexual. That song idgaf if it goes no homo at the end, it's a solo song i presume she chose or wrote, she could've done any other song. If it's gay fanservice it's lame. I think she's bi and maybe wishes she was more out or whatever.

Soyeon: bi

Siyeon: lesbian, i'm gonna trust dc fans + gives lesbian vibes.

Dami: no idea tbh but some people say she's gay too...

Moon sua : no idea.

Xiao ting: wow... I'd say she's straight but open minded. I don't know much of her but I know she has no problem with gay fanservice at all, but I see her more as having fun (straight) than her actually being gay
She's actually homophobic
Well prove it or shut up
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da How is that homophobic? She's right? What am I missing?

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 03:12

Guest wrote:
Today, 02:06
Guest wrote:
Today, 01:32
Koreans being on MHJ side makes sense when you conclude they don't think she is a p3do, cause that has always been the strongest point against her character for international fans. Otherwise, everything she said makes sense and definitely paints HYBE as the issue.
Koreans being on MHJ side proves nothing. They also love Zico and he’s a known as a digital monster there despite being known as the golden phone. Basically filming r*pe videos on his phone. The squid game actor also won some prestigious award despite assaulting his ex
Exactly, they don't care about any sexual crimes or allegations of grooming. Once you ignore those then it makes sense why they side with her.

Also, I hate Z*co and consider him rapey and homophobic (he was extremely so towards one of his members when Bl0ck B was still around) but the phone wasn't his. It was some other guys who got convicted and he looked through it and called it a "golden phone" then lied and said he was amazed by his contact list.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 02:06

Guest wrote:
Today, 01:32
Koreans being on MHJ side makes sense when you conclude they don't think she is a p3do, cause that has always been the strongest point against her character for international fans. Otherwise, everything she said makes sense and definitely paints HYBE as the issue.
Koreans being on MHJ side proves nothing. They also love Zico and he’s a known as a digital monster there despite being known as the golden phone. Basically filming r*pe videos on his phone. The squid game actor also won some prestigious award despite assaulting his ex

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 01:49

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:23
What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun- gives me het over zealous ally for now. But I can see her turning out to be fam. I don't follow them well enough just yet so probably there is stuff I don't know yet.

Yuqi- even the anon who brought up the stylist stuff isn't sure if anything means anything cause the only actually sus thing there was the elevator. A lot of idols do wear their stylist's clothes etc. Very confused about her.

Soyeon- agreed with others. She is bi with a male preference. Like she is sapphic enough to acknowledge she finds women attractive but will probably not date one.

Siyeon- pings through the roof in person. She is either a lesbian or bi with a very strong preference for women. Its not just vibes either, she's been caught on camera checking out women multiple times. That woman is not het.

Dami- at the very least she is bi. She doesn't ping as hard as Siyeon does but she's been changing het lyrics to make them gayer in covers since forever and Siyeon made a remark about her that she knows how to keep a woman happy or something.

Moon Sua- I would actually like to know about her too, I really like her and she has that face.

Xiao Ting- het. I disagree on her being homophobic though, maybe hetnormative. She is close to Handong and DC don't stay friends with homophobic people (eg. the Sera/DC fallout which didn't even come out of private discord chats and Sera's patreon).

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 01:32

Koreans being on MHJ side makes sense when you conclude they don't think she is a p3do, cause that has always been the strongest point against her character for international fans. Otherwise, everything she said makes sense and definitely paints HYBE as the issue.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 01:28

Guest wrote:
Today, 01:03
Guest wrote:
Today, 01:01
Guest wrote:
Today, 00:20
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:23
What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun: i don't know the group well nor her but so far she gives straight, who has questioned/is questioning herself, arthoe, makes every single thing a poem type of girl.

Yuqi: bisexual. That song idgaf if it goes no homo at the end, it's a solo song i presume she chose or wrote, she could've done any other song. If it's gay fanservice it's lame. I think she's bi and maybe wishes she was more out or whatever.

Soyeon: bi

Siyeon: lesbian, i'm gonna trust dc fans + gives lesbian vibes.

Dami: no idea tbh but some people say she's gay too...

Moon sua : no idea.

Xiao ting: wow... I'd say she's straight but open minded. I don't know much of her but I know she has no problem with gay fanservice at all, but I see her more as having fun (straight) than her actually being gay
She's actually homophobic
Well prove it or shut up
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Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 01:11

I often forget Kepler's Yujin but I believe she's gay or at least bi. She gaybaits so much but it's too much for being het.
Also this one lesbian role, she gaybaits but it's "conscious" gaybait. Does anyone know if she ever mentioned men or something? Wore any lgbt shit or whatnot? Is it just fanservice?

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 01:03

Guest wrote:
Today, 01:01
Guest wrote:
Today, 00:20
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:23
What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun: i don't know the group well nor her but so far she gives straight, who has questioned/is questioning herself, arthoe, makes every single thing a poem type of girl.

Yuqi: bisexual. That song idgaf if it goes no homo at the end, it's a solo song i presume she chose or wrote, she could've done any other song. If it's gay fanservice it's lame. I think she's bi and maybe wishes she was more out or whatever.

Soyeon: bi

Siyeon: lesbian, i'm gonna trust dc fans + gives lesbian vibes.

Dami: no idea tbh but some people say she's gay too...

Moon sua : no idea.

Xiao ting: wow... I'd say she's straight but open minded. I don't know much of her but I know she has no problem with gay fanservice at all, but I see her more as having fun (straight) than her actually being gay
She's actually homophobic
Well prove it or shut up

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 01:01

Guest wrote:
Today, 00:20
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:23
What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun: i don't know the group well nor her but so far she gives straight, who has questioned/is questioning herself, arthoe, makes every single thing a poem type of girl.

Yuqi: bisexual. That song idgaf if it goes no homo at the end, it's a solo song i presume she chose or wrote, she could've done any other song. If it's gay fanservice it's lame. I think she's bi and maybe wishes she was more out or whatever.

Soyeon: bi

Siyeon: lesbian, i'm gonna trust dc fans + gives lesbian vibes.

Dami: no idea tbh but some people say she's gay too...

Moon sua : no idea.

Xiao ting: wow... I'd say she's straight but open minded. I don't know much of her but I know she has no problem with gay fanservice at all, but I see her more as having fun (straight) than her actually being gay
She's actually homophobic

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 00:52

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:23
What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun: IDK yet. She seems pretty fresh as potentially sus. I'd consider her one to watch potentially.

Yuqi: Either a very secure straight woman or repressed and now exploring bisexuality. She hangs around other gay women, and like that other anon said, even if her song had a gotcha, she was down to pick out a song for her solo that had her singing her ass off about another woman. I know some people think it's laughing in the face of the gays, but IDK, I feel like the joke's kind of on her because it really just does sound fucking gay even if she was actually trying to no-homo herself at the end.

Soyeon: Bisexual but seems to prefer dating men. Hasn't alluded to an interest in women since releasing Oh My God but I still think she's bi.

Siyeon: She pings and has vibes + receipts. Lesbian or strongly sapphic.

Dami: She's always pinged to me but IDK her receipts.

Moon Sua: I don't think Billie gets discussed here much, but I'd be interested to hear more about them.

Xiao Ting: Another group that doesn't get much discussion so I don't know much about their members.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 00:40

Guest wrote:
Today, 00:32
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 23:16
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:13
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:52
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:34
It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit
DA they're both boring with weak vocals. They make boring ringtone/tiktok music. But apparently enough people love that shit.
Da. I mean that’s your opinion, I absolutely love everything newjeans has put out and I’m a very eclectic music consumer.

There’s a reason why critics love them and it for sure isn’t because they put out “boring tiktok music”, that’s your take bc you probably enjoy noisier stuff and can’t catch the nuances and references in newjeans music.
Da critics loving them means absolutely nothing. Most of them get paid by big companies to write praise about kpop groups and their music. Just like how critics aren’t allowed to write anything bad about Taylor swift
da what helps them most is simply being under hybe and thus having a broader reach. Most my friends who are into music but not super into k-pop know and like NewJeans. The marketing for them was good.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 00:32

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 23:16
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:13
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:52
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:34
It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit
DA they're both boring with weak vocals. They make boring ringtone/tiktok music. But apparently enough people love that shit.
Da. I mean that’s your opinion, I absolutely love everything newjeans has put out and I’m a very eclectic music consumer.

There’s a reason why critics love them and it for sure isn’t because they put out “boring tiktok music”, that’s your take bc you probably enjoy noisier stuff and can’t catch the nuances and references in newjeans music.
Da critics loving them means absolutely nothing. Most of them get paid by big companies to write praise about kpop groups and their music. Just like how critics aren’t allowed to write anything bad about Taylor swift

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Today, 00:20

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:23
What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)
Sohyun: i don't know the group well nor her but so far she gives straight, who has questioned/is questioning herself, arthoe, makes every single thing a poem type of girl.

Yuqi: bisexual. That song idgaf if it goes no homo at the end, it's a solo song i presume she chose or wrote, she could've done any other song. If it's gay fanservice it's lame. I think she's bi and maybe wishes she was more out or whatever.

Soyeon: bi

Siyeon: lesbian, i'm gonna trust dc fans + gives lesbian vibes.

Dami: no idea tbh but some people say she's gay too...

Moon sua : no idea.

Xiao ting: wow... I'd say she's straight but open minded. I don't know much of her but I know she has no problem with gay fanservice at all, but I see her more as having fun (straight) than her actually being gay

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:32

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 23:16
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:13
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:52
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:34
It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit
DA they're both boring with weak vocals. They make boring ringtone/tiktok music. But apparently enough people love that shit.
Da. I mean that’s your opinion, I absolutely love everything newjeans has put out and I’m a very eclectic music consumer.

There’s a reason why critics love them and it for sure isn’t because they put out “boring tiktok music”, that’s your take bc you probably enjoy noisier stuff and can’t catch the nuances and references in newjeans music.
Why are bunnies so pretentious, it's a common theme they act like they're Pitchfork

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:28

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:52
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:52
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:34
It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit
Bubble bubble part is popping in my eardrums, but I agree they should pick songs that I could easily sing a phrase or two. E.g. Super Shy and Magnetic for it to explode in charts. In terms of aesthetics I like NJ more, if that magical girl thing is her concept that would also been potential hit as people generally like supernaturals. Anyhow it's refreshing to see vintage vibe in Kpop.
da MHJ explained on that radio she did after the press conference the song isn't even their comeback. Which fans already knew that. She described what was being released as more a teaser. In comparison Super Shy and Magnetic are title track comeback/debut songs.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:27

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 23:16
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:13
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:52
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:34
It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit
DA they're both boring with weak vocals. They make boring ringtone/tiktok music. But apparently enough people love that shit.
Da. I mean that’s your opinion, I absolutely love everything newjeans has put out and I’m a very eclectic music consumer.

There’s a reason why critics love them and it for sure isn’t because they put out “boring tiktok music”, that’s your take bc you probably enjoy noisier stuff and can’t catch the nuances and references in newjeans music.
I mean yeah, it's my opinion, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I personally don't like the sound of NJ or Illit, I find it utterly boring regardless of their lyrics. I also don't like the loud music with crazy transitions that kpop loves doing as well.

Simply put, if NJ and Illit is your thing, awesome. Illit seems here to stay (and they're young so they should have a long career, I do wonder if they'll change their concept with age) , not to sure on the future of NJ though with everything going on.

I can admit I sounded like an ass in my initial post. Sorry about that.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:16

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:13
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:52
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:34
It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit
DA they're both boring with weak vocals. They make boring ringtone/tiktok music. But apparently enough people love that shit.
Da. I mean that’s your opinion, I absolutely love everything newjeans has put out and I’m a very eclectic music consumer.

There’s a reason why critics love them and it for sure isn’t because they put out “boring tiktok music”, that’s your take bc you probably enjoy noisier stuff and can’t catch the nuances and references in newjeans music.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:14

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 21:33
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 21:04
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:28
^ True though I won't support a pedophile, man or woman
You do support them by tuning in to their groups. At least this is just women supporting her position in a legal case, nothing to do with consuming the creative output.
Well if i support them by tuning in to their groups i won't add to this by supporting their position in a legal case, i'm not that fucking pathetic. But you do you
That's a weird response. Their legal case isn't related to the pedophilia but their creative content is inseparable from it by your reasoning, and at least the legal case is important for women which has been the point made throughout the thread.

Technically you're the one supporting her. Supporting an argument objectively is different so you're being loud and trying too hard to act morally superior over saying women can support women for no reason. A couple of you went back to bitching about the groups and members fast as hell so please stay in your lane now you admitted to not caring about this.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:56

Why is there always a server error? Dying website.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:52

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:52
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:34
It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit
Bubble bubble part is popping in my eardrums, but I agree they should pick songs that I could easily sing a phrase or two. E.g. Super Shy and Magnetic for it to explode in charts. In terms of aesthetics I like NJ more, if that magical girl thing is her concept that would also been potential hit as people generally like supernaturals. Anyhow it's refreshing to see vintage vibe in Kpop.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:23

What's the consensus if any on
Sohyun (triple s)
Yuqi (gidle)
Soyeon (gidle)
Siyeon (dreamcatcher)
Dami (dreamcatcher)
Moon Sua (billlie)
Xiao Ting (kepler)

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:13

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 20:52
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:34
It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit
DA they're both boring with weak vocals. They make boring ringtone/tiktok music. But apparently enough people love that shit.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 21:33

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 21:04
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:28
^ True though I won't support a pedophile, man or woman
You do support them by tuning in to their groups. At least this is just women supporting her position in a legal case, nothing to do with consuming the creative output.
Well if i support them by tuning in to their groups i won't add to this by supporting their position in a legal case, i'm not that fucking pathetic. But you do you

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 21:09

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:06
Min Heejin: Sihyuk said.
Sihyuk: "Big Hit has a lot of female fans because of BTS. We can't make girl group here. Because female fans might be jealous of girl groups. We have to make a girl group label. There is a team that already exists. I will buy a source music label. There is a trainee. If we use an existing trainee, we can make a debut team quickly. Creative is Min, music is Sihyuk, and management is done by the source.
I really want to comment on this quote by Sihyuk because it's a a very common misconception. "Women hate prettier women," and "Women are cruel to each other." It goes without saying that it's an self-fulfilling prophecy. If you raise girls in an ecosystem where you pit them against each other, they're inevitably going to develop hostility towards each other.

There is also this idea that women don't want to admire/cheer for/support other women. I remember this quote from Michael Jackson about Madonna when they were at similar levels of success in the industry, he said something along the lines of, "They admire you and know you are wonderful and great because they are jealous, because they wish they were in your shoes. Madonna is one of them. She is jealous. She is a girl, a woman and I think that's what bothers her...I get the fainting and adulation and she doesn't." His justification for that was that men don't faint and scream because they are too cool for that, and that women don't scream for other women... I truly enjoy how the success of female entertainers in the west. Girl groups have eclipsed boy groups once they've started targeting a female audience, and the biggest entertainers of this century are women. Girls do scream and faint at Taylor Swift's concerts.

Anyway. Women should support other women. Men are thankless.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 21:04

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 19:28
^ True though I won't support a pedophile, man or woman
You do support them by tuning in to their groups. At least this is just women supporting her position in a legal case, nothing to do with consuming the creative output.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:52

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:34
It was always uneventful though, which is the big difference with illit

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 19:28

^ True though I won't support a pedophile, man or woman

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 19:06

Min Heejin: Sihyuk said.
Sihyuk: "Big Hit has a lot of female fans because of BTS. We can't make girl group here. Because female fans might be jealous of girl groups. We have to make a girl group label. There is a team that already exists. I will buy a source music label. There is a trainee. If we use an existing trainee, we can make a debut team quickly. Creative is Min, music is Sihyuk, and management is done by the source.
I really want to comment on this quote by Sihyuk because it's a a very common misconception. "Women hate prettier women," and "Women are cruel to each other." It goes without saying that it's an self-fulfilling prophecy. If you raise girls in an ecosystem where you pit them against each other, they're inevitably going to develop hostility towards each other.

There is also this idea that women don't want to admire/cheer for/support other women. I remember this quote from Michael Jackson about Madonna when they were at similar levels of success in the industry, he said something along the lines of, "They admire you and know you are wonderful and great because they are jealous, because they wish they were in your shoes. Madonna is one of them. She is jealous. She is a girl, a woman and I think that's what bothers her...I get the fainting and adulation and she doesn't." His justification for that was that men don't faint and scream because they are too cool for that, and that women don't scream for other women... I truly enjoy how the success of female entertainers in the west. Girl groups have eclipsed boy groups once they've started targeting a female audience, and the biggest entertainers of this century are women. Girls do scream and faint at Taylor Swift's concerts.

Anyway. Women should support other women. Men are thankless.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 18:49

Justhere2begay wrote:
Yesterday, 18:42
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 06:24
Yujin is back with her femme era :bigcry: I'll be waiting again for her masc era
Meh, I may be in the minority here but I prefer it when she presents more femme. Not that I don't like her tomboyish side, it's really cute and cool and she's attractive no matter what, but I'm not crying over it, yk? Though I also won't complain if it comes back.
Exactly. She's pretty either way. You didn't lose her, and at least, you got to see her in a more masculine attire. And here I am, a Wonyoung fan, still praying my stars to see her in a more androgynous fit.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Justhere2begay » Yesterday, 18:42

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 06:24
Yujin is back with her femme era :bigcry: I'll be waiting again for her masc era
Meh, I may be in the minority here but I prefer it when she presents more femme. Not that I don't like her tomboyish side, it's really cute and cool and she's attractive no matter what, but I'm not crying over it, yk? Though I also won't complain if it comes back.

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 18:24

bbangsaz being fruity in the background :$

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 18:22

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 16:50
Presenting Hanni with her babes frolicking in the sun~ :gaypimp:

Image
Bubble gum out now ~
I would cry if I had that haircut. It's so severe imo especially for the youthful look they want

Re: Korean Entertainment - Part II

by Guest » Yesterday, 18:17

While Yuna flirts with male fans, we got yeji for the fangirls


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