Dreamcatcher

by **Guest** » Today, 11:49

X2 the pride shoes only came to our notice because a handful of people picked up on it in lq screenshots and posted about it. She wasn't being loud about it at all. In the very beginning of pride Month too. She didn't even post them on her insta but she did wear them on national television. Those shoes have the actual inclusive pride flag on them that the girls have held and signed multiple times and come in the most obnoxiously loud pride box, it wasn't just a rainbow pair that could be explained away as her liking rainbows, and it wasn't subtle like the discreet pride design on Yoohyeon's sweat shirt to claim that she didn't know. Or some inclusive text that could be written off as idols wearing graphic tees without realizing what they say.
To each their own but to me she comes across as a sapphic who knows how people perceive her but has no intention of being loud or dropping hints cause it's her personal business whether she is bi or gay.

by **Guest** » Today, 11:21

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Today, 09:53
Putting into spoiler cause it’s pretty long
I saw them In November 2022 and it was the time Siyeon went through that phase in her styling I think it was discussed here before but she did ping a loooot for me. Ngl back then I was faraway from the stage and if I remember correctly she was quite sick and apologised for her condition even if she hit all of the notes with such an extreme ease while being sick.
She kept exiting the stage probably because she wasn’t feeling good but from the few I got there’s just something about her that screams « fruity » really loud, you’re like drawn to her at least that’s how I felt.
I think it’s the way she carries herself it’s very obvious.
Now I could be wrong but I think a lot of people here can agree with this statement she is the only member (with Yoohyeon who’s pretty much out and proud) we can all agree to say is probably wlw. To me she’s probably a lesbian but at the end of the day it’s just speculation and even then it’s still kinda hard not to see her as a lesbian. Girl showed up at national Tv and sang a song about wanting a woman so bad without changing pronouns ? Nah you can’t convince me otherwise.
She has always been discussed here and people are always agreeing that she’s part of the community so I guess there’s a reason to that.
Now we never know cause lately a lot of kpop idols that have been heavily discussed as sus before were reported to be in a relationship with a man so yeah I am not betting everything I have cause there’s still a possibility that she is Bi or as $TraiGht as a ruler and just an ally but for now and unless she says otherwise or show clear interest to men I consider her as a lesbian.
Dami is also really sus, as she and Yoohyeon keep realising sapphics coded specials clips. And that dessert cover to me is just so sus to get ignored. She also stoped being friends with that S€ra girly cause she’s apparently homophobic. Now she could just be a strong ally but it’s not the vibe I got from her just like Siyeon she radiates a lot of lesbian energy. It’s also really hard not see her as a lesbian. So counting Yoohyeon and Siyeon 3 out of 7 members would be wlw.

Of all the heavily speculated idols who were dating m*n one case is believed to be a short lived bearding situation with how weirdly it ended, Kar1na had in fact talked about a very male description of her ideal type in the past and came across as more of a girl's girl (I still think she's bi), Chae had described Tim0thee Chalasomething as her ideal type (someone sickly looking).

What makes Siyeon sus isn't just ger open mindedly reading and consuming queer media or waving around pride flags on stage or yelling about support for the LGBT community or just her vibe. The girl is sus because of the things she has said over the years. Like the other person said she describes women's bodies in far too much detail completely unprompted, she doesn't really consume all that much queer media at all and is usually the most subdued about the way she shows support, no loud declarations of love is love etc. The flirtiness isn't sus because she flirts with anything and everything and I doubt she is attracted to every woman she is flirting with, I think she just thinks it's a fun thing to do. She checks out women often and tries to cover it up when caught, and more often than not she will try to take attention away from it than bring attention to it. Yoohyeon looking at her slyly when she said the word straight and refused to sing further despite knowing the lyrics and then going "why would you say that" when Siyeon tried to claim she needed to see the lyrics is already extremely sus. Her lack of interest in m3n is not new, she said she had no interest in them back in 2018, she was teased by Sua about never getting married "because of her members" which she insisted that she never wanted to get married because she had her own life only for Gahyeon making her say it was her opinion "for now", her getting awkward about the ideal type question including Cap and then Dami telling her to imagine herself in place of the hypothetical chef making the dish, her refusing to sing the word m*n in the middle of a love song on vlive with that very peculiar expression on her face, her dropping the wifey thing once she was forced to include m*n in it after getting spammed repeatedly and then doubling down on the women thing with her "Siyeon's cuties/Siyeon's unnies" thing. It could be her being a lesbian or it could just be her not wanting to cater to m*n given the social situation (although it started in 2019 and she was already anti dating and marriage in 2017-18).

Dami is more your regular sus when it comes to idols being speculated. In her case she can come across as a loud ally and a girl's girl tomboyish type. I don't think she is though, I do think she is wlw based on years of perceiving her. Dami is verbally louder about letting the LGBT community know when she is directing things towards them, unlike Siyeon who is less loud about it.

Of course they can both be bi but I do not believe for one second that they are het. Especially not Siyeon. Girl wore the most obvious pride merch on national broadcast and a fansign that she would have to be an idiot to not know were pride shoes but stayed lowkey about them. If she wanted to be a loud supportive ally she would have posted them all over her socmed like other idols tend to do. She could easily refuse to wear those shoes, anyone could have worn those shoes given that she has the same shoe size as 3 other members including Yoohyeon, our resident pride flag display station and it's not like they added to Siyeon's outfit in any way.

It's good to have healthy doubt in regards to speculation. But doubt is one thing at this point I'll have to ignore far too many obvious tells and involuntary display of blatant interest in women to consider her straight. If she dates a m*n, she's bi or pan. We'll most likely never find out if she or any other member dated a woman at any point anyway.

by **Guest** » Today, 10:11

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Today, 09:53
Putting into spoiler cause it’s pretty long
I saw them In November 2022 and it was the time Siyeon went through that phase in her styling I think it was discussed here before but she did ping a loooot for me. Ngl back then I was faraway from the stage and if I remember correctly she was quite sick and apologised for her condition even if she hit all of the notes with such an extreme ease while being sick.
She kept exiting the stage probably because she wasn’t feeling good but from the few I got there’s just something about her that screams « fruity » really loud, you’re like drawn to her at least that’s how I felt.
I think it’s the way she carries herself it’s very obvious.
Now I could be wrong but I think a lot of people here can agree with this statement she is the only member (with Yoohyeon who’s pretty much out and proud) we can all agree to say is probably wlw. To me she’s probably a lesbian but at the end of the day it’s just speculation and even then it’s still kinda hard not to see her as a lesbian. Girl showed up at national Tv and sang a song about wanting a woman so bad without changing pronouns ? Nah you can’t convince me otherwise.
She has always been discussed here and people are always agreeing that she’s part of the community so I guess there’s a reason to that.
Now we never know cause lately a lot of kpop idols that have been heavily discussed as sus before were reported to be in a relationship with a man so yeah I am not betting everything I have cause there’s still a possibility that she is Bi or as $TraiGht as a ruler and just an ally but for now and unless she says otherwise or show clear interest to men I consider her as a lesbian.

Dami is also really sus, as she and Yoohyeon keep realising sapphics coded specials clips. And that dessert cover to me is just so sus to get ignored. She also stoped being friends with that S€ra girly cause she’s apparently homophobic. Now she could just be a strong ally but it’s not the vibe I got from her just like Siyeon she radiates a lot of lesbian energy. It’s also really hard not see her as a lesbian. So counting Yoohyeon and Siyeon 3 out of 7 members would be wlw.

Lmao she could be bi or pan but definitely not straight. Straight women do not talk like that about women's bodies. That tendency was what clocked me as a lesbian to my friends and was exactly what finally had my friend explain to me was not just "artistic appreciation of the female form". She doesn't give flirty girl's girl who will hype you up with compliments the way others do, she gives gay as shit who spent way too much time staring at your pelvis and waist and knows the exact measurements (Sua's 24 inch waist) and metaphors (exquisite cola bottle pelvis) to describe them now.

by **Guest** » Today, 10:04

^ "Putting into spoiler cause it’s pretty long"

by **Guest** » Today, 09:53

Putting into spoiler cause it’s pretty long

I saw them In November 2022 and it was the time Siyeon went through that phase in her styling I think it was discussed here before but she did ping a loooot for me. Ngl back then I was faraway from the stage and if I remember correctly she was quite sick and apologised for her condition even if she hit all of the notes with such an extreme ease while being sick.
She kept exiting the stage probably because she wasn’t feeling good but from the few I got there’s just something about her that screams « fruity » really loud, you’re like drawn to her at least that’s how I felt.
I think it’s the way she carries herself it’s very obvious.
Now I could be wrong but I think a lot of people here can agree with this statement she is the only member (with Yoohyeon who’s pretty much out and proud) we can all agree to say is probably wlw. To me she’s probably a lesbian but at the end of the day it’s just speculation and even then it’s still kinda hard not to see her as a lesbian. Girl showed up at national Tv and sang a song about wanting a woman so bad without changing pronouns ? Nah you can’t convince me otherwise.
She has always been discussed here and people are always agreeing that she’s part of the community so I guess there’s a reason to that.
Now we never know cause lately a lot of kpop idols that have been heavily discussed as sus before were reported to be in a relationship with a man so yeah I am not betting everything I have cause there’s still a possibility that she is Bi or as $TraiGht as a ruler and just an ally but for now and unless she says otherwise or show clear interest to men I consider her as a lesbian.

Dami is also really sus, as she and Yoohyeon keep realising sapphics coded specials clips. And that dessert cover to me is just so sus to get ignored. She also stoped being friends with that S€ra girly cause she’s apparently homophobic. Now she could just be a strong ally but it’s not the vibe I got from her just like Siyeon she radiates a lot of lesbian energy. It’s also really hard not see her as a lesbian. So counting Yoohyeon and Siyeon 3 out of 7 members would be wlw.

by **Guest** » Today, 09:12

Singbin being absolutely amazing at more lowkey fanservice.

I also found this again and I miss suayeon interactions so much.

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 23:58

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I love these two together

by **guest** » Yesterday, 18:41

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It seems like a few of you went to the Europe dates? Was it your first time seeing them? Can you tell us your impressions of the members? Like some people mentioned Jiu and Sua engage with the audience
Saw them live for the first time, went to 2 stops, one being the opening act in barcelona. JiBo really gave the most in both concerts, with Sua especially showing how much of a professional she is, like no joke. She made sure the energy was HIGH all the time.
Jiu was the absolute caring lovable angel you'd expect her to be, anywhere she looked you'd just feel a warm piercing gaze. Yoohyeon was 50/50, I found her a bit energy-low at times, sometimes gazing at nothing (felt this most in barcelona). Could have been for a number of reasons though. Dongie was lowkey and chill.
Everyone interacted with the audience but Gah/Dami felt the most reserved in comparison by miles. Gahyeon is especially much more reserved than I had initially thought.

Also Siyeon's vibes are really something in real life - you just can't look at her right in front of you and NOT get a fruity vibe from her. It's one of those things where when you're there you just know, it's too obvious to ignore.
Another also, it's hilarious to me how noticeably gay (and almost overwhelmingly female) the crowds were. Girls were more likely to be wlw than not from what I saw. Honestly one of the best places to get yourself in if you're looking for a gf
Did you also get the feeling that Yoohyeon was a little shy towards directly interacting with the crowd for long? Not talking about when she's doing her thing during songs and feeling the music, but I noticed her numerous times not being able to hold eye contact for long and darting her focus away. I know she says she is shy but I really could see it at times at my concert date. I am wondering if it's more than people think, but is pretty good at pushing through and hiding it most of the time. I know she has trouble making friends and stuff.

Kind of contest that she's an extrovert lol, i'd say she wants to be and is around her members in the right setting, but has stuff holding her back.

Yes i felt the same about yoohyeon shyness too in brussel i was second front row and i really understand what you mean. also siyeon's body language and the way she just moves overall is too sus, the vibe you can't even capture on camera. especially in london where she looked like a 19 year old boy, i was at the balcony but even from there it wass too obvious

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 16:59

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25 Apr 2024, 16:24
It seems like a few of you went to the Europe dates? Was it your first time seeing them? Can you tell us your impressions of the members? Like some people mentioned Jiu and Sua engage with the audience
Saw them live for the first time, went to 2 stops, one being the opening act in barcelona. JiBo really gave the most in both concerts, with Sua especially showing how much of a professional she is, like no joke. She made sure the energy was HIGH all the time.
Jiu was the absolute caring lovable angel you'd expect her to be, anywhere she looked you'd just feel a warm piercing gaze. Yoohyeon was 50/50, I found her a bit energy-low at times, sometimes gazing at nothing (felt this most in barcelona). Could have been for a number of reasons though. Dongie was lowkey and chill.
Everyone interacted with the audience but Gah/Dami felt the most reserved in comparison by miles. Gahyeon is especially much more reserved than I had initially thought.

Also Siyeon's vibes are really something in real life - you just can't look at her right in front of you and NOT get a fruity vibe from her. It's one of those things where when you're there you just know, it's too obvious to ignore.
Another also, it's hilarious to me how noticeably gay (and almost overwhelmingly female) the crowds were. Girls were more likely to be wlw than not from what I saw. Honestly one of the best places to get yourself in if you're looking for a gf

Did you also get the feeling that Yoohyeon was a little shy towards directly interacting with the crowd for long? Not talking about when she's doing her thing during songs and feeling the music, but I noticed her numerous times not being able to hold eye contact for long and darting her focus away. I know she says she is shy but I really could see it at times at my concert date. I am wondering if it's more than people think, but is pretty good at pushing through and hiding it most of the time. I know she has trouble making friends and stuff.

Kind of contest that she's an extrovert lol, i'd say she wants to be and is around her members in the right setting, but has stuff holding her back.

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 15:10

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 14:30

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It seems like a few of you went to the Europe dates? Was it your first time seeing them? Can you tell us your impressions of the members? Like some people mentioned Jiu and Sua engage with the audience
Saw them live for the first time, went to 2 stops, one being the opening act in barcelona. JiBo really gave the most in both concerts, with Sua especially showing how much of a professional she is, like no joke. She made sure the energy was HIGH all the time.
Jiu was the absolute caring lovable angel you'd expect her to be, anywhere she looked you'd just feel a warm piercing gaze. Yoohyeon was 50/50, I found her a bit energy-low at times, sometimes gazing at nothing (felt this most in barcelona). Could have been for a number of reasons though. Dongie was lowkey and chill.
Everyone interacted with the audience but Gah/Dami felt the most reserved in comparison by miles. Gahyeon is especially much more reserved than I had initially thought.

Also Siyeon's vibes are really something in real life - you just can't look at her right in front of you and NOT get a fruity vibe from her. It's one of those things where when you're there you just know, it's too obvious to ignore.
Another also, it's hilarious to me how noticeably gay (and almost overwhelmingly female) the crowds were. Girls were more likely to be wlw than not from what I saw. Honestly one of the best places to get yourself in if you're looking for a gf

I can imagine. Poor Yooh, this tour was so hectic with little down time between travelling and concerts. She is constantly pushing herself the entire time too. Not surprised about Jibo being hype beasts, those two are the only ones who can actually keep up with each other in terms of energy and imo they are the perfect idols for a concept like dc's touring group. I feel like Dong is always so chilled out, I was rewatching their curse of the spider performance from the tour and she has this cool badass vibe to her. Something about her is so unexplainably attractive to me. I have to say Gahmi come across as less reserved on camera to me. Yea almost everyone says Siyeon has an overtly gay vibe irl. I think it might be something about the way she carries herself and her body language. Its very noticeable in fancams and stills taken by fans so I can't even imagine how loud it is irl.

BTW I have a question which has been on my mind for a while. What would you say is the key demographic of romantic couples that show up at the shows? Het couples? Wlw? I have a reason for asking.

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 13:21

Thanks for answering my questions

^^ your take on them is what I kind of got from watching fancams. Sua seems to have amazing people skills even with a language barrier!

by **Guest** » Yesterday, 13:05

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25 Apr 2024, 16:24
It seems like a few of you went to the Europe dates? Was it your first time seeing them? Can you tell us your impressions of the members? Like some people mentioned Jiu and Sua engage with the audience

Saw them live for the first time, went to 2 stops, one being the opening act in barcelona. JiBo really gave the most in both concerts, with Sua especially showing how much of a professional she is, like no joke. She made sure the energy was HIGH all the time.
Jiu was the absolute caring lovable angel you'd expect her to be, anywhere she looked you'd just feel a warm piercing gaze. Yoohyeon was 50/50, I found her a bit energy-low at times, sometimes gazing at nothing (felt this most in barcelona). Could have been for a number of reasons though. Dongie was lowkey and chill.
Everyone interacted with the audience but Gah/Dami felt the most reserved in comparison by miles. Gahyeon is especially much more reserved than I had initially thought.

Also Siyeon's vibes are really something in real life - you just can't look at her right in front of you and NOT get a fruity vibe from her. It's one of those things where when you're there you just know, it's too obvious to ignore.
Another also, it's hilarious to me how noticeably gay (and almost overwhelmingly female) the crowds were. Girls were more likely to be wlw than not from what I saw. Honestly one of the best places to get yourself in if you're looking for a gf

by **Guest** » 25 Apr 2024, 17:37

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Siyeon just seems smarter and more aware than she lets on. Maybe that's her 'kpop identity.' Zones out, seems weird, likes aliens. like Jiu uses food as to not share too much. Not saying she doesn't love food but idols will cling to an impersonal talking point
I don't think it's a persona. She doesn't just zone out in a funny way she legitimately clocks out completely and sometimes has to snap herself out of it. She even gets embarrassed about it and brought up not liking that it happens. You can't stay like that without blinking for as long as she does voluntarily. I think she genuinely likes aliens because she has always had weird hyper fixations since day one, cap America merch, rainbows, crocs, animal prints, kiwis, hats, cookie run etc. The only hyper fixation she hasn't talked about is the rainbows. That's not an idol persona.
Same with Minji, I don't think the food is an idol persona, back in the day the girls were roasting her for eating awful food combinations just because those were what she found in the fridge just so the food won't go to waste. She was also destroying the food during the mukbang on weekly idol.

X2 I don't think it's an act either.

by **Guest** » 25 Apr 2024, 17:06

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Siyeon just seems smarter and more aware than she lets on. Maybe that's her 'kpop identity.' Zones out, seems weird, likes aliens. like Jiu uses food as to not share too much. Not saying she doesn't love food but idols will cling to an impersonal talking point

I don't think it's a persona. She doesn't just zone out in a funny way she legitimately clocks out completely and sometimes has to snap herself out of it. She even gets embarrassed about it and brought up not liking that it happens. You can't stay like that without blinking for as long as she does voluntarily. I think she genuinely likes aliens because she has always had weird hyper fixations since day one, cap America merch, rainbows, crocs, animal prints, kiwis, hats, cookie run etc. The only hyper fixation she hasn't talked about is the rainbows. That's not an idol persona.
Same with Minji, I don't think the food is an idol persona, back in the day the girls were roasting her for eating awful food combinations just because those were what she found in the fridge just so the food won't go to waste. She was also destroying the food during the mukbang on weekly idol.

by **Guest** » 25 Apr 2024, 16:39

Siyeon just seems smarter and more aware than she lets on. Maybe that's her 'kpop identity.' Zones out, seems weird, likes aliens. like Jiu uses food as to not share too much. Not saying she doesn't love food but idols will cling to an impersonal talking point

by **Guest** » 25 Apr 2024, 16:34

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I was watching a bunch of videos today and I don't know if it's me reading too much into stuff but I thought Yoohyeon also checks out women, or at least the members, just like Siyeon does. The only difference is Siyeon's entire expression changes and she has to snap herself out of it so it's blatant amd easy to notice it but Yoohyeon maintains her smiley face while checking out so people tend to not notice it as much

by **Guest** » 25 Apr 2024, 16:28

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I can't express how much I adore them

by **Guest** » 25 Apr 2024, 16:27

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Im really curious about this inner world can you share your view on it?

Oh her having a complex inner world thing was said by someone else to someone else and I just happened to witness the convo later. Clearly this is just my read on her and I am no one to give a full picture of who she or any other member is really like. I find them all so fascinating to just watch and try to figure out as people.

For me personally Siyeon comes across as a very different person in different settings and around different people. Obviously everyone behaves differently with different people but with her it's very pronounced (I've heard it's a libra thing but idk I don't know much about star signs lol). She seems to mimic the energy of the people around her being very loud and boisterous with JiBo and very calm and chilled out with 2yoodong and very level with Gahyeon. Different fans tend to describe her differently depending on which dynamic they are more exposed to. She is also weirdly private in that we know the most about her out of all the members but nothing of any real substance (like we have technically known she had bad organs because she joked about them multiple times, we just didn't know she was being serious). It's only in her solo late night vlives that we used to get something close to her "authentic" personality when it is not being influenced by people around her and there she seems to be very quite and contemplative. A lot of things that she has said in those vlives and how she perceives little things come across as someone who is very introspective and wise but she tends to keep most of her thoughts to herself unless directly asked to comment on things even in interviews. That's what I mean by complex inner world that she doesn't seem all that willing to share.

Da I can vouch for the bolded part lol. Agree with everything you said btw.

Spoilering cause I usually don't like speaking about Yoohyeon's hypnosis episode in DC mind but I was watching it again today and I noticed all the members reactions, particularly Siyeon's. Girl was stunned but compared to other members who started outright crying, if a new fan sees the video then they'll probably think Siyeon wasn't as affected as others. Siyeon definitely is someone who keeps a lot to herself. She may not show everything but she has a whole world in her mind that she doesn't share

That taste of culture episode, when she was eating the meal with lamb in it you immediately see her face change from thoughtful to distaste on being told what it is but when asked to rate the food she still gives it a 9 with an awkward smile. This is just a small thing but with her it's the little things. The way her face cycled through several emotions when Stacy asked them about a memorable advice they were given (when she first talked about her dance instructor who told her to change careers and even her own members didn't know) was another more telling moment. What is notable is that with Gahyeon and Dami their thoughtfulness is obvious. Once you get to know them a little bit more you can tell that Dami is very introspective and Gahyeon is very wise or that Suyoo are very self critical etc but with Siyeon it took me YEARS of following the group to realize just how complicated I find the way she is. There is a running joke amongst her stand on twt that she is living her first life cause of how enamoured she is by silly things. I think in general it's really easy to write her off as no thoughts head empty but she just generally feels like someone I would find very hard to write a POV for.

It's funny you mention this because all the points you brought up are the exact reasons why I was drawn to Siyeon. To me Siyeon is someone who's a master at giving the illusion that makes you think you know a lot about her to the point you can think you're her best buddy, but you don't. She's very specific about how much of herself she's showing to someone and only the very selected few, like the members for example, are allowed to see it all but even then there are layers. This is also the reason why she has a small social circle. People like her tend to have such a vast inner world that they can find it difficult to meet someone who *clicks* but when they do it's usually for life

by **Guest** » 25 Apr 2024, 16:24

It seems like a few of you went to the Europe dates? Was it your first time seeing them? Can you tell us your impressions of the members? Like some people mentioned Jiu and Sua engage with the audience

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by **Guest** » 25 Apr 2024, 16:09

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Im really curious about this inner world can you share your view on it?

Oh her having a complex inner world thing was said by someone else to someone else and I just happened to witness the convo later. Clearly this is just my read on her and I am no one to give a full picture of who she or any other member is really like. I find them all so fascinating to just watch and try to figure out as people.

For me personally Siyeon comes across as a very different person in different settings and around different people. Obviously everyone behaves differently with different people but with her it's very pronounced (I've heard it's a libra thing but idk I don't know much about star signs lol). She seems to mimic the energy of the people around her being very loud and boisterous with JiBo and very calm and chilled out with 2yoodong and very level with Gahyeon. Different fans tend to describe her differently depending on which dynamic they are more exposed to. She is also weirdly private in that we know the most about her out of all the members but nothing of any real substance (like we have technically known she had bad organs because she joked about them multiple times, we just didn't know she was being serious). It's only in her solo late night vlives that we used to get something close to her "authentic" personality when it is not being influenced by people around her and there she seems to be very quite and contemplative. A lot of things that she has said in those vlives and how she perceives little things come across as someone who is very introspective and wise but she tends to keep most of her thoughts to herself unless directly asked to comment on things even in interviews. That's what I mean by complex inner world that she doesn't seem all that willing to share.

Da I can vouch for the bolded part lol. Agree with everything you said btw.

Spoilering cause I usually don't like speaking about Yoohyeon's hypnosis episode in DC mind but I was watching it again today and I noticed all the members reactions, particularly Siyeon's. Girl was stunned but compared to other members who started outright crying, if a new fan sees the video then they'll probably think Siyeon wasn't as affected as others. Siyeon definitely is someone who keeps a lot to herself. She may not show everything but she has a whole world in her mind that she doesn't share

by **Guest** » 25 Apr 2024, 15:43

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Im really curious about this inner world can you share your view on it?

Oh her having a complex inner world thing was said by someone else to someone else and I just happened to witness the convo later. Clearly this is just my read on her and I am no one to give a full picture of who she or any other member is really like. I find them all so fascinating to just watch and try to figure out as people.

For me personally Siyeon comes across as a very different person in different settings and around different people. Obviously everyone behaves differently with different people but with her it's very pronounced (I've heard it's a libra thing but idk I don't know much about star signs lol). She seems to mimic the energy of the people around her being very loud and boisterous with JiBo and very calm and chilled out with 2yoodong and very level with Gahyeon. Different fans tend to describe her differently depending on which dynamic they are more exposed to. She is also weirdly private in that we know the most about her out of all the members but nothing of any real substance (like we have technically known she had bad organs because she joked about them multiple times, we just didn't know she was being serious). It's only in her solo late night vlives that we used to get something close to her "authentic" personality when it is not being influenced by people around her and there she seems to be very quite and contemplative. A lot of things that she has said in those vlives and how she perceives little things come across as someone who is very introspective and wise but she tends to keep most of her thoughts to herself unless directly asked to comment on things even in interviews. That's what I mean by complex inner world that she doesn't seem all that willing to share.

Da I can vouch for the bolded part lol. Agree with everything you said btw.

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I was watching a bunch of videos today and I don't know if it's me reading too much into stuff but I thought Yoohyeon also checks out women, or at least the members, just like Siyeon does. The only difference is Siyeon's entire expression changes and she has to snap herself out of it so it's blatant amd easy to notice it but Yoohyeon maintains her smiley face while checking out so people tend to not notice it as much

There is a clip in the scream notes where Yoohyeon got a bit lost looking down Siyeon's shirt. It was shared on here a while ago.

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Is it just me or is she getting a lot more attractive lately?

Also, please ignore the troll it’s just one person replying to themselves. They’re not here for a real discussion.
Da oh yes absolutely. The moment I saw this pic I immediately thought how handsomely pretty she was looking
On another note, idk what is it about caps but any dc member wears cap and im done
Caps highlight the cheekbones and pull attention towards the jawline. Makes the face look more masculine. It really works with Gahyeon and Sua's features in particular because their nose and chin are more pronounced. There is a reason caps make women look this good.

Not to add to the troll's talking points but rather making a comment in general because of the weird toxicity here. There is an obvious Siyeon lean in the fandom when it comes to who is wlw. Even people who insist on refusing to assume or speculate on idol sexualities tend to side eye her the most despite others doing more LGBT oriented fanservice (mvs, special clips, concert covers, concert shippy stuff). And I'm guessing it's because she has very obvious tells. The more I get to know the girls the more I genuinely don't see her ever clearly coming out or being deliberately obvious like putting out explicitly queer coded videos. She has always been more subdued of the group and it reflects in majority of her personal content. I remember someone say that she seems to have a very complex inner world and refuses to share the depth of it and I agree. This is a similar sentiment I have for Handong and Gahyeon as well. And being extremely private and reserved myself it would be really hypocritical of me to want someone to constantly drop loud hints and draw attention to themselves for being queer unless they want to do so themselves. Siyeon's response to getting caught on camera staring down Sua's shirt or when that straight line happened was to either pretend it didn't happen or act like she forgot the lyrics instead of bringing attention to it like it was some big gay joke like the others tend to do. It's clear she doesn't have any intentions of coming out as anything and I think it's extremely disrespectful to pass judgement on what content she puts out or what personality she had just because she isn't being as clear and deliberately obvious as the more outspoken members.

Im really curious about this inner world can you share your view on it?

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I was watching a bunch of videos today and I don't know if it's me reading too much into stuff but I thought Yoohyeon also checks out women, or at least the members, just like Siyeon does. The only difference is Siyeon's entire expression changes and she has to snap herself out of it so it's blatant amd easy to notice it but Yoohyeon maintains her smiley

face while checking out so people tend to not notice it as much

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Not trying to start a fight but to me that's more a sign of being open minded than being queer. I personally think she's pretty sus regardless of her friend circle but I don't necessarily take people with large friend groups having a bunch of queer people in said friend group as evidence of them being queer themselves.

Ah don't worry you don't come across as wanting to start a fight! I personally think it is somewhat of an indicator because I get the same vibes from Dami and her friend group, but everyone can have their own opinion of course! At the end of the day we're all just speculating anyways and I think it's healthy for the thread to at least keep some kind of discussion going. My personal bias is Handong so I'm not trying to convince anyone that Gahyeon is gay, just that she seems a bit sus to me.

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I think it's harder for me to gauge people with large cross generational social circles because obviously the bigger the group the higher the number of queer people in it. The queer friends only really make me sure that the person in question is very open minded and a solid ally which we have known about DC since the beginning. Gahyeon Sua and Dami all have large friend groups across age ranges and exchange contact info with everyone they meet even once. The lesbian couple is just one of the many people Dami met once, exchanged contact info with and hung out with, Sua even hangs out with mutual friends of mutual friends, Gahyeon will exchange contact with anyone she meets and hits it off with. The members who are more selective like Handong or find it harder to make friends like Siyeon, Yoohyeon and Jiu all have sus heavily speculated friends in their smaller and more curated friend group as well. Handong's friend used to be speculated on in the past, Siyeon is friends with 3unbi who has a massive queer friend group as well as gay rumors, and Siyeon is close to Ju3un who has been speculated with Yv3s, Yoohyeon is in the 97 gc with Yv3s along with Dami, Jiu is finally friends with S3ola. All these can also be written off as them all being close by virtue of just being same age friends or chingus because most Koreans do have this urge to all stick with same age friends.
So for me, friend groups are only really a sign of being open minded. Korean women in particular have mostly been very open minded and accepting of LGBT in general and we know S3ra got booted from the DC friend list over homophobic opinions. Generally speaking all I know is that the DC girls will always have the backs of the LGBT community, whether it is because some of them are fam or if it is because they are genuinely good people is ultimately irrelevant in the long run to me.

As for in general who I find sus in the group it's the usual suspects gahsingbin. I think Gahyeon has the vibe and has said a couple of sus things, Dami pings me but there is nothing really concrete there outside of a couple of remarks here and there by other members. It could be simply her knowing her audience and wanting to genuinely cater to us and the few things I would consider a sure sign are actually pretty vague (the dessert cover is too vague and metaphorical that it leaves enough room for either interpretation, the flag banner thing is pretty vague especially since it doesn't have all the colors and has an extra color and I haven't seen any discreet banner that messes up the colors like that), I still think she is extremely likely to be wlw. Siyeon is the one I am usually more sure about given that a lot of the things that make me sus her out are things that are not fanservice and she has said and done a lot of things over the years that take jumping through hoops to justify as coincidences or fanservice (unless she is an Oscar worthy actress with a doctorate in how sapphics act in everyday life). Unfortunately, I think the degree of trolling had started making me second guess if I am just a dumb sapphic reading too much into Siyeon's behaviour and words. Which is actually quite funny cause she (and Gahyeon) used to be sus to me originally since she reminded me of me.
Yoohyeon is the only one who is out and her queer friend group that we know of is pretty much limited to possibly her own members and the people that might be in her gc alongside Yv3s.

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On a lighter note about Gahyeon. Yoojung is in the same boat as Yoohyeon, as in she basically came out as pan.
They've been friends for a really long time and she's the only person outside of deukae she follows on Instagram, they seem really close. Gahyeon is private but not as private as people make her out to be if you know where to look and pay attention.

They spent Christmas together as well (although I don't think it was actual Christmas day, Gahyeon's original post has the date 12/23 on the pictures). I don't think I've seen anyone bring this up on twitter until yesterday but it has been posted on their individual accounts for 4 months now.

Hmm yea I know they are super close and have been friends for a long time but I also don't think there is anything there from the stuff on there. Yoojung seems to have been hanging out with a bunch of people around Christmas. Gahyeon spent Christmas with her other 2 friends and filmed a tiktok with them too. Yoojung's relationship with D0yeon was far more sus to me.
As for the girls following people outside of DC, a lot of them used to follow other people until recently and quite a few of them have gone back to following one or two of their friends again.
I wasn't trying to imply there is anything going on between them, just wanted to add that I find it interesting she keeps "out" and openly supportive friends closely around her.
Not trying to start a fight but to me that's more a sign of being open minded than being queer. I personally think she's pretty sus regardless of her friend circle but I don't necessarily take people with large friend groups having a bunch of queer people in said friend group as evidence of them being queer themselves.

Ah don't worry you don't come across as wanting to start a fight!

I personally think it is somewhat of an indicator because I get the same vibes from Dami and her friend group, but everyone can have their own opinion of course! At the end of the day we're all just speculating anyways and I think it's healthy for the thread to at least keep some kind of discussion going. My personal bias is Handong so I'm not trying to convince anyone that Gahyeon is gay, just that she seems a bit sus to me.

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On a lighter note about Gahyeon. Yoojung is in the same boat as Yoohyeon, as in she basically came out as pan.
They've been friends for a really long time and she's the only person outside of deukae she follows on Instagram, they seem really close. Gahyeon is private but not as private as people make her out to be if you know where to look and pay attention.

They spent Christmas together as well (although I don't think it was actual Christmas day, Gahyeon's original post has the date 12/23 on the pictures). I don't think I've seen anyone bring this up on twitter until yesterday but it has been posted on their individual accounts for 4 months now.

Hmm yea I know they are super close and have been friends for a long time but I also don't think there is anything there from the stuff on there. Yoojung seems to have been hanging out with a bunch of people around Christmas. Gahyeon spent Christmas with her other 2 friends and filmed a tiktok with them too. Yoojung's relationship with D0yeon was far more sus to me.
As for the girls following people outside of DC, a lot of them used to follow other people until recently and quite a few of them have gone back to following one or two of their friends again.
I wasn't trying to imply there is anything going on between them, just wanted to add that I find it interesting she keeps "out" and openly supportive friends closely around her.

Not trying to start a fight but to me that's more a sign of being open minded than being queer. I personally think she's pretty sus regardless of her friend circle but I don't necessarily take people with large friend groups having a bunch of queer people in said friend group as evidence of them being queer themselves.

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On a lighter note about Gahyeon. Yoojung is in the same boat as Yoohyeon, as in she basically came out as pan.
They've been friends for a really long time and she's the only person outside of deukae she follows on Instagram, they seem really close. Gahyeon is private but not as private as people make her out to be if you know where to look and pay attention.

They spent Christmas together as well (although I don't think it was actual Christmas day, Gahyeon's original post has the date 12/23 on the pictures). I don't think I've seen anyone bring this up on twitter until yesterday but it has been posted on their individual accounts for 4 months now.

Hmm yea I know they are super close and have been friends for a long time but I also don't think there is anything there from the stuff on there. Yoojung seems to have been hanging out with a bunch of people around Christmas. Gahyeon spent Christmas with her other 2 friends and filmed a tiktok with them too. Yoojung's relationship with D0yeon was far more sus to me.
As for the girls following people outside of DC, a lot of them used to follow other people until recently and quite a few of them have gone back to following one or two of their friends again.

I wasn't trying to imply there is anything going on between them, just wanted to add that I find it interesting she keeps "out" and openly supportive friends closely around her.

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On a lighter note about Gahyeon. Yoojung is in the same boat as Yoohyeon, as in she basically came out as pan.
They've been friends for a really long time and she's the only person outside of deukae she follows on Instagram, they seem really close. Gahyeon is private but not as private as people make her out to be if you know where to look and pay attention.

They spent Christmas together as well (although I don't think it was actual Christmas day, Gahyeon's original post has the date 12/23 on the pictures). I don't think I've seen anyone bring this up on twitter until yesterday but it has been posted on their individual accounts for 4 months now.

Hmm yea I know they are super close and have been friends for a long time but I also don't think there is anything there from the stuff on there. Yoojung seems to have been hanging out with a bunch of people around Christmas. Gahyeon spent Christmas with her other 2 friends and filmed a tiktok with them too. Yoojung's relationship with D0yeon was far more sus to me.
As for the girls following people outside of DC, a lot of them used to follow other people until recently and quite a few of them have gone back to following one or two of their friends again.

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On a lighter note about Gahyeon. Yoojung is in the same boat as Yoohyeon, as in she basically came out as pan.

They've been friends for a really long time and she's the only person outside of deukae she follows on Instagram, they seem really close. Gahyeon is private but not as private as people make her out to be if you know where to look and pay attention.

They spent Christmas together as well (although I don't think it was actual Christmas day, Gahyeon's original post has the date 12/23 on the pictures). I don't think I've seen anyone bring this up on twitter until yesterday but it has been posted on their individual accounts for 4 months now.

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Not to add to the troll's talking points but rather making a comment in general because of the weird toxicity here. There is an obvious Siyeon lean in the fandom when it comes to who is wlw. Even people who insist on refusing to assume or speculate on idol sexualities tend to side eye her the most despite others doing more LGBT oriented fanservice (mvs, special clips, concert covers, concert shippy stuff). And I'm guessing it's because she has very obvious tells. The more I get to know the girls the more I genuinely don't see her ever clearly coming out or being deliberately obvious like putting out explicitly queer coded videos. She has always been more subdued of the group and it reflects in majority of her personal content. I remember someone say that she seems to have a very complex inner world and refuses to share the depth of it and I agree. This is a similar sentiment I have for Handong and Gahyeon as well. And being extremely private and reserved myself it would be really hypocritical of me to want someone to constantly drop loud hints and draw attention to themselves for being queer unless they want to do so themselves. Siyeon's response to getting caught on camera staring down Sua's shirt or when that straight line happened was to either pretend it didn't happen or act like she forgot the lyrics instead of bringing attention to it like it was some big gay joke like the others tend to do. It's clear she doesn't have any intentions of coming out as anything and I think it's extremely disrespectful to pass judgement on what content she puts out or what personality she had just because she isn't being as clear and deliberately obvious as the more outspoken members.

Da
Being an out queer idol in SK comes with consequences. No openly queer idol is doing well, it's only idols that are heavily speculated or are open secrets who are doing somewhat well. The moment you come out suddenly your sales start suffering (eg. several queer idols who have come out explicitly and are still active) unless you are an indie or non kpop artist your best bet is to stay closeted whether glass or concrete. We also don't know if she is out to her family or how it could impact her niece if she is loud about it. And yes, I do 100% believe she is wlw.

On a lighter note about Gahyeon. Yoojung is in the same boat as Yoohyeon, as in she basically came out as pan.

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Is it just me or is she getting a lot more attractive lately?

Also, please ignore the troll it’s just one person replying to themselves. They’re not here for a real discussion.
Da oh yes absolutely. The moment I saw this pic I immediately thought how handsomely pretty she was looking
On another note, idk what is it about caps but any dc member wears cap and im done

Caps highlight the cheekbones and pull attention towards the jawline. Makes the face look more masculine. It really works with Gahyeon and Sua's features in particular because their nose and chin are more pronounced. There is a reason caps make women look this good.

Not to add to the troll's talking points but rather making a comment in general because of the weird toxicity here. There is an obvious Siyeon lean in the fandom when it comes to who is wlw. Even people who insist on refusing to assume or speculate on idol sexualities tend to side eye her the most despite others doing more LGBT oriented fanservice (mvs, special clips, concert covers, concert shippy stuff). And I'm guessing it's because she has very obvious tells. The more I get to know the girls the more I genuinely don't see her ever clearly coming out or being deliberately obvious like putting out explicitly queer coded videos. She has always been more subdued of the group and it reflects in majority of her personal content. I remember someone say that she seems to have a very complex inner world and refuses to share the depth of it and I agree. This is a similar sentiment I have for Handong and Gahyeon as well. And being extremely private and reserved myself it would be really hypocritical of me to want someone to constantly drop loud hints and draw attention to themselves for being queer unless they want to do so themselves. Siyeon's response to getting caught on camera staring down Sua's shirt or when that straight line happened was to either pretend it didn't happen or act like she forgot the lyrics instead of bringing attention to it like it was some big gay joke like the others tend to do. It's clear she doesn't have any intentions of coming out as anything and I think it's extremely disrespectful to pass judgement on what content she puts out or what personality she had just because she isn't being as clear and deliberately obvious as the more outspoken members.

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Is it just me or is she getting a lot more attractive lately?

Also, please ignore the troll it’s just one person replying to themselves. They’re not here for a real discussion.

Da oh yes absolutely. The moment I saw this pic I immediately thought how handsomely pretty she was looking

On another note, idk what is it about caps but any dc member wears cap and im done

by **Guest** » 24 Apr 2024, 02:53

Is it just me or is she getting a lot more attractive lately?

Also, please ignore the troll it’s just one person replying to themselves. They’re not here for a real discussion.

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One of these days you will realise that literally all the other girls are more likely to be wlw than Siyeon. 2yoo keep releasing sapphic coded special clips, Gahyeon has sus friends, jibo are bi at the very least and Handong is growing sus even on this thread. You just keep lying to yourself and insisting that this woman is wlw based on obvious fanservice and the bare minimum. Half the shit she says is probably made up to appeal to the wlw community cause that's her target demographic. She has never done shit to even be in the discussion and you have fooled even non fans over at kent. And despite this 2yoo and Gahyeon never even get half the attention this queerbaitron 5000 gets.
X2 she gives me the ick.

Da- both of you are silly, Siyeon’s af and she’s gay gay gay.

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happy lesbian visibility week!

Damn... Yoohyeon has never looked hotter. I am dying.

Is it me or the amount of lgbt coded cover videos they release is going off the charts.

A group has never made me feel so seen before.
They saw how gay their fans were during their euro tour and started feeling confident

(this is only a half-joke)

I mean it could be the case. I imagine it's very liberating for any wlw members to be surrounded by fans that accept them for themselves when 90% of the time they are in a country that generally wouldn't.

I went to a show in Europe tour and even I was shocked at how many obvious gays there were, it's genuinely not an exaggeration when people say a good majority of their fanbase (besides the slice of metalhead m*n) is fam.

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happy lesbian visibility week!

Damn... Yoohyeon has never looked hotter. I am dying.

Is it me or the amount of lgbt coded cover videos they release is going off the charts.

A group has never made me feel so seen before.

They saw how gay their fans were during their euro tour and started feeling confident

(this is only a half-joke)

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One of these days you will realise that literally all the other girls are more likely to be wlw than Siyeon. 2yoo keep releasing sapphic coded special clips, Gahyeon has sus friends, jibo are bi at the very least and Handong is growing sus even on this thread. You just keep lying to yourself and insisting that this woman is wlw based on obvious fanservice and the bare minimum. Half the shit she says is probably made up to appeal to the wlw community cause that's her target demographic. She has never done shit to even be in the discussion and you have fooled even non fans over at kent. And despite this 2yoo and Gahyeon never even get half the attention this queerbaitron 5000 gets.

X2 she gives me the ick.

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by **Guest** » 23 Apr 2024, 18:05

One of these days you will realise that literally all the other girls are more likely to be wlw than Siyeon. 2yoo keep releasing sapphic coded special clips, Gahyeon has sus friends, jibo are bi at the very least and Handong is growing sus even on this thread. You just keep lying to yourself and insisting that this woman is wlw based on obvious fanservice and the bare minimum. Half the shit she says is probably made up to appeal to the wlw community cause that's her target demographic. She has never done shit to even be in the discussion and you have fooled even non fans over at kent. And despite this 2yoo and Gahyeon never even get half the attention this queerbaitron 5000 gets.

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happy lesbian visibility week!

Damn... Yoohyeon has never looked hotter. I am dying.

Is it me or the amount of lgbt coded cover videos they release is going off the charts.

A group has never made me feel so seen before.

I mean I agree that they do a lot for us and always have done a lot even if its not posted as an SC but there's been 3? The OMG cover, this one and oort cloud. Maybe ping pong which was also a love song duet.

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happy lesbian visibility week!

Damn... Yoohyeon has never looked hotter. I am dying.

Is it me or the amount of lgbt coded cover videos they release is going off the charts.

A group has never made me feel so seen before.

by **Guest** » 23 Apr 2024, 15:06

happy lesbian visibility week!

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Anytime a DC fan account on YouTube starts posting non shippy videos showcasing the girl's chemistry the channel just disappears after a while and it's getting annoying. There used to be a channel that used to posts tons of pair chemistry videos a few years ago that got deleted, another that was mostly siyoo and jibo which got deleted as well and now the channel that posted duo video comps from their phone also got deleted. Now all you can find are those god awful shipping videos (cringe and horrible juvenile captions that makes enjoying the moments impossible cause there is a

floating around in your face) or clips from twitter for editing.

by **Guest** » 20 Apr 2024, 01:51

Call it a fucking unpopular opinion and maybe I've been spoiled by 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen idols all debuting vocalists that were at least competent and could hold a note with some excellent main vocals and barely 1 or 2 genuinely weak vocalists per group. But the current state of vocals in kpop is horrible. Stans insist that "they're rookies" and use that as an excuse. Why the fuck are they even being debuted if they can barely even hold a note??? Debuting younger and younger idols with barely any vocal training is actually insane. What are the fandoms even built on? Cause it's clearly not based on any kind of vocal talent but these 14 year olds are debuting with fully formed fandoms who will defend their painful attempts to hit the most mediocre notes while standing still. And then our girls and so many other amazing mid tier groups get completely overlooked vocally.

by **Guest** » 20 Apr 2024, 00:43

Maybe this is a thyroid problem, it can affect any organ function. Anyway, let's trust her to take care of it and be healthy.

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FR like what's left? The heart? The brain? Those are the most concerning!
I don't wanna say anything or even speculate cause my brain keeps trying to figure out what's left.
She's a woman, could also be ovaries, uterus, breasts. But if she doesn't want to say she's in her right to not do it. Why she always gives half info tho? I prefer to live in ignorance than worrying because of her kekekeing about her health
Her and her fucking kekekeing .

Heart issues seem to flair up a lot with people who are underweight for a longer period of time so it might be that.
Hmm has she ever mentioned being particularly underweight though? I always thought she had pretty decent/healthy body weight especially for a kpop idol. I don't think it's a heart thing cause DC style choreography and workout would be a massive no-no for her.
I feel like it's endometriosis, hence why she's a bit secretive about it since it concerns the reproductive system. I have it, and it definitely effects organs as it spreads and can cause weight gain or loss. It varies from person to person, and it just in general sucks. It's very painful.

That makes sense. Doctors don't take it very seriously, at least here in the US. My wife had it really bad for years before she moved in and I finally helped her find a doctor that helped her. Surgery fixed it immediately. I wish everyone could have experiences that positive, but it's just not a reality for female reproductive health. I have my own horror story unrelated to endometriosis, but that's getting quite off topic.

I hope she takes care of herself and has a doctor who is actively trying to help her through it.

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