by Guest » 27 Mar 2024, 05:10
I mean, I dont understand what you mean by not having talked about men. Talking about men directly is actually an unusual thing in kpop. 3rd gen onwards idols were removed from mixed gender situations entirely and ever since the spreading of kpop to the western market female idols in particular have been pushed to stay as neutral as possible. The few times idols use a gendered term is actually more uncommon. Sua unprompted talking about someone being a good husband and father is rarer than Gahyeon saying spouse. Siyeon saying ideal woman was even rarer pre pandemic because it took away the neutrality and when asked to elaborate on why she liked her she didnt bring up the ideal part on the TV interview cause it probably had more reach to the korean gp.
Dami being sus doesn't really come from gender neutrality, it comes from some of her remarks, awareness of queer culture, her changing the lyrics to a being wlw in her pepermint chocolate cover, and a few other things here and there. Even Jiu has spent her entire career pushing the girlfriend and boyfriend jokes only to drop a comment in 2022 that heavily implied she tends to default to same sex coffee dates not being romantic.
As for the members who have never mentioned men, the only interview where the girls have mentioned men was a written interview. Koreans explicitly do not use gendered pronouns in normal conversations, its just not how the language works. They keep things contextual and stay gender neutral with words that mean person or someone. So I really doubt suddenly all the girls barring 2 became an anomaly and started dropping "man" in interviews. Besdies as mentioned before interviewers often tack on a random "man" in subtitles and translations. Jiu supposedly saying "a boy" in her ideal type in 2019 nadol interview and Siyeon's "a man with good sense" In the same never happened. They simply never said the words boy or man but the subtitles automatically translated their words and tacked on genders, Yoohyeon just flat out corrected them when they tried to say man. So no I doubt Jiu, Siyeon, Yoohyeon and Dami all randomly said men. Even Sua I have a hard time believing said the word man in that interview because she also talks with neutral pronouns. The only time I do believe she brought up men was a) the use of words like husband and father in a written interview and b) the husband in the 2020 interview with Gahyeon.
I am not shutting down any speculation on gahdong by the way, I just think that not talking about men doesn't really mean all that much given the current environement in korea is very shitty in regards to the kind of men there, the general gender neutral language and the gendered seperation of idols since 3rd gen. Rather than sticking to neutrality Siyeon actively avoids talking about them, even snaps her mouth shut at the word, randomly coughs at being asked the if you were a man question, gets visibly uncomfortable at being asked about marriage etc to men which is sus but not much when looked at in a vacuum. In a similar case Gahyeon's disregard of men in men vs money conversations is lowkey sus and her use of the descriptor pretty is lowkey sus but there isnt much there.
I mean, I dont understand what you mean by not having talked about men. Talking about men directly is actually an unusual thing in kpop. 3rd gen onwards idols were removed from mixed gender situations entirely and ever since the spreading of kpop to the western market female idols in particular have been pushed to stay as neutral as possible. The few times idols use a gendered term is actually more uncommon. Sua unprompted talking about someone being a good husband and father is rarer than Gahyeon saying spouse. Siyeon saying ideal woman was even rarer pre pandemic because it took away the neutrality and when asked to elaborate on why she liked her she didnt bring up the ideal part on the TV interview cause it probably had more reach to the korean gp.
Dami being sus doesn't really come from gender neutrality, it comes from some of her remarks, awareness of queer culture, her changing the lyrics to a being wlw in her pepermint chocolate cover, and a few other things here and there. Even Jiu has spent her entire career pushing the girlfriend and boyfriend jokes only to drop a comment in 2022 that heavily implied she tends to default to same sex coffee dates not being romantic.
As for the members who have never mentioned men, the only interview where the girls have mentioned men was a written interview. Koreans explicitly do not use gendered pronouns in normal conversations, its just not how the language works. They keep things contextual and stay gender neutral with words that mean person or someone. So I really doubt suddenly all the girls barring 2 became an anomaly and started dropping "man" in interviews. Besdies as mentioned before interviewers often tack on a random "man" in subtitles and translations. Jiu supposedly saying "a boy" in her ideal type in 2019 nadol interview and Siyeon's "a man with good sense" In the same never happened. They simply never said the words boy or man but the subtitles automatically translated their words and tacked on genders, Yoohyeon just flat out corrected them when they tried to say man. So no I doubt Jiu, Siyeon, Yoohyeon and Dami all randomly said men. Even Sua I have a hard time believing said the word man in that interview because she also talks with neutral pronouns. The only time I do believe she brought up men was a) the use of words like husband and father in a written interview and b) the husband in the 2020 interview with Gahyeon.
I am not shutting down any speculation on gahdong by the way, I just think that not talking about men doesn't really mean all that much given the current environement in korea is very shitty in regards to the kind of men there, the general gender neutral language and the gendered seperation of idols since 3rd gen. Rather than sticking to neutrality Siyeon actively avoids talking about them, even snaps her mouth shut at the word, randomly coughs at being asked the if you were a man question, gets visibly uncomfortable at being asked about marriage etc to men which is sus but not much when looked at in a vacuum. In a similar case Gahyeon's disregard of men in men vs money conversations is lowkey sus and her use of the descriptor pretty is lowkey sus but there isnt much there.