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Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 24 minutes ago

Guest wrote:
Today, 00:29

You say it's a joke but at least it makes sense. No one can clown you for that. Actually, nothing really does make sense if they're not together, that is my issue. It explains everything. Their dynamic, the downplaying, the cautions from members, the sudden stop in fanservice, the things cameras aren't meant to catch.

I don't care anymore if people think it's delusional, it's not born out of pure wishful thinking like some ships, it really does seem like it could be logical at this point. :giveup:

We'll have to wait and see if anything more comes to light, or see what happens after disbandment to gauge the truth
I dont know how much more content we will see from them tbf. A good chunk of stuff seems to have been in vlives and behinds. With the group as a whole doing fewer and fewer video lives there really is not much. Lately what we see happens in notes and fan signs and depending on the note we might not see much in the way of interactions either, like last time we got tons of content for each tour venue with a lot of down time, this time we are getting 3 seperate venues shoved into one note, not a lot in the way of content. The camera crew has also gotten cautious about what is being filmed since the v@pe incident as well. Which honestly? Good.
If, and I need to reiterate that, IF there is anything actually going on with the two of them then it will depend entirely on them making it obvious. I do agree that we'll most likely need to wait until disbandment for anything to maybe come out. And even then its entirely dependent on how private they go. And generally speaking them disbanding is not something I look forward to at all.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 03:39

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Today, 03:25
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Today, 02:15
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Today, 01:51
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Today, 01:22

Remember in odd eye when Yoohyeon posted a selca with the caption calling Siyeon "baby" and on being asked about it by the k-fans said she said baby cause weverse translates Siyeon unnie to demonstration unnie. But the post was made on twitter, not weverse, and she translated the post herself with the korean caption calling her siyeon unnie and the english caption calling her siyeon baby. AND even if she had only called her baby in the korean caption (which she didnt) it would still have translated to Demonstration baby. Why try ti make excuses when calling each other baby and darling is nothing new amongst the group?
Lol. The lady doth protest to much. Yeah that makes no sense whatsoever :rofl: Just needed to write "Siyeon unnie" herself so it wasn't "demonstration" - the baby thing was entirely unnecessary in any situation.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.
Just to prove I'm not delusional.
Seems a weird thing to be posting on twitter anyway? What was it in reply to?All seems like one giant excuse to call Siyeon baby on main, but who knows :lol:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 03:25

Guest wrote:
Today, 02:15
Guest wrote:
Today, 01:51
Guest wrote:
Today, 01:22

Remember in odd eye when Yoohyeon posted a selca with the caption calling Siyeon "baby" and on being asked about it by the k-fans said she said baby cause weverse translates Siyeon unnie to demonstration unnie. But the post was made on twitter, not weverse, and she translated the post herself with the korean caption calling her siyeon unnie and the english caption calling her siyeon baby. AND even if she had only called her baby in the korean caption (which she didnt) it would still have translated to Demonstration baby. Why try ti make excuses when calling each other baby and darling is nothing new amongst the group?
Lol. The lady doth protest to much. Yeah that makes no sense whatsoever :rofl: Just needed to write "Siyeon unnie" herself so it wasn't "demonstration" - the baby thing was entirely unnecessary in any situation.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.
Just to prove I'm not delusional.


And then you have Siyeon teasing her about it on vlive because the fans brought it up. Literally didnt have to be acknowledged like every other time.
Seems a weird thing to be posting on twitter anyway? What was it in reply to?All seems like one giant excuse to call Siyeon baby on main, but who knows :lol:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 02:45

She's literally just standing there but dear god

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 02:15

Guest wrote:
Today, 01:51
Guest wrote:
Today, 01:22

Remember in odd eye when Yoohyeon posted a selca with the caption calling Siyeon "baby" and on being asked about it by the k-fans said she said baby cause weverse translates Siyeon unnie to demonstration unnie. But the post was made on twitter, not weverse, and she translated the post herself with the korean caption calling her siyeon unnie and the english caption calling her siyeon baby. AND even if she had only called her baby in the korean caption (which she didnt) it would still have translated to Demonstration baby. Why try ti make excuses when calling each other baby and darling is nothing new amongst the group?
Lol. The lady doth protest to much. Yeah that makes no sense whatsoever :rofl: Just needed to write "Siyeon unnie" herself so it wasn't "demonstration" - the baby thing was entirely unnecessary in any situation.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.
Just to prove I'm not delusional.


And then you have Siyeon teasing her about it on vlive because the fans brought it up. Literally didnt have to be acknowledged like every other time.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 01:51

Guest wrote:
Today, 01:22
Guest wrote:
Today, 01:12

Girl you're doing the lord's work here. That is absolutely adorable. I wish I had a Siyeon.
Remember in odd eye when Yoohyeon posted a selca with the caption calling Siyeon "baby" and on being asked about it by the k-fans said she said baby cause weverse translates Siyeon unnie to demonstration unnie. But the post was made on twitter, not weverse, and she translated the post herself with the korean caption calling her siyeon unnie and the english caption calling her siyeon baby. AND even if she had only called her baby in the korean caption (which she didnt) it would still have translated to Demonstration baby. Why try ti make excuses when calling each other baby and darling is nothing new amongst the group?
Lol. The lady doth protest to much. Yeah that makes no sense whatsoever :rofl: Just needed to write "Siyeon unnie" herself so it wasn't "demonstration" - the baby thing was entirely unnecessary in any situation.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 01:22

Guest wrote:
Today, 01:12

Girl you're doing the lord's work here. That is absolutely adorable. I wish I had a Siyeon.
Remember in odd eye when Yoohyeon posted a selca with the caption calling Siyeon "baby" and on being asked about it by the k-fans said she said baby cause weverse translates Siyeon unnie to demonstration unnie. But the post was made on twitter, not weverse, and she translated the post herself with the korean caption calling her siyeon unnie and the english caption calling her siyeon baby. AND even if she had only called her baby in the korean caption (which she didnt) it would still have translated to Demonstration baby. Why try ti make excuses when calling each other baby and darling is nothing new amongst the group?

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 01:12

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Today, 00:58
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Girl you're doing the lord's work here. That is absolutely adorable. I wish I had a Siyeon.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 00:58

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Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 00:29

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 23:47
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:11
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:32
Of course, it's hard to deal with inter-group relationships when things don't work out, but if you look at the opposite sex music group, they've always dated. So it wouldn't be strange IF siyoo naturally become a thing. They seem to have cleared the biggest limiting factor: they have a same-sex interest and are attracted to each other.

My delulu thoughts.
Omg I remember that whiteboard thing now you brought it up. That's actually one of the most sus things regarding a potential relationship.

It does make sense about Boca era. It seems to me that they may have spent a long time beforehand liking each other, judging by the way they have acted in past vlives.
Disclaimer- this is just speculation, not facts.
That would make sense. Boca vlives were when they started being glued to each other all the time. Prior to that they would gravitate to each other but not to the degree they did in boca. They would be all snuggled up in boca era and it started spilling into the notes as well by Odd eye, some of the most sus off camera flirting is from post boca early odd eye period. By Maison leading into Vision and OOTD they'd kind of just started behaving in what can be equated to a long term couple like behaviour with Dami even teasing them about PDA in her vlog. Usually relationships stay intense for a while before cooling off and settling into this cozy comfortable thing which would make sense with how they've gotten less intense but only keep getting clingier and sort of more intimate with every comeback.

This last part is a joke

Odd eye is also when Siyeon pretty much dropped all fanservice and Yoohyeon has said multiple times that she is the jealous type.
You say it's a joke but at least it makes sense. No one can clown you for that. Actually, nothing really does make sense if they're not together, that is my issue. It explains everything. Their dynamic, the downplaying, the cautions from members, the sudden stop in fanservice, the things cameras aren't meant to catch.

I don't care anymore if people think it's delusional, it's not born out of pure wishful thinking like some ships, it really does seem like it could be logical at this point. :giveup:

We'll have to wait and see if anything more comes to light, or seewhat happens after disbandment to gauge the truth

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:51

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 23:47
Boca vlives were when they started being glued to each other all the time.
Lol
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Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:47

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:11
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:32
Of course, it's hard to deal with inter-group relationships when things don't work out, but if you look at the opposite sex music group, they've always dated. So it wouldn't be strange IF siyoo naturally become a thing. They seem to have cleared the biggest limiting factor: they have a same-sex interest and are attracted to each other.

My delulu thoughts.
Omg I remember that whiteboard thing now you brought it up. That's actually one of the most sus things regarding a potential relationship.

It does make sense about Boca era. It seems to me that they may have spent a long time beforehand liking each other, judging by the way they have acted in past vlives.
Disclaimer- this is just speculation, not facts.
That would make sense. Boca vlives were when they started being glued to each other all the time. Prior to that they would gravitate to each other but not to the degree they did in boca. They would be all snuggled up in boca era and it started spilling into the notes as well by Odd eye, some of the most sus off camera flirting is from post boca early odd eye period. By Maison leading into Vision and OOTD they'd kind of just started behaving in what can be equated to a long term couple like behaviour with Dami even teasing them about PDA in her vlog. Usually relationships stay intense for a while before cooling off and settling into this cozy comfortable thing which would make sense with how they've gotten less intense but only keep getting clingier and sort of more intimate with every comeback.

This last part is a joke

Odd eye is also when Siyeon pretty much dropped all fanservice and Yoohyeon has said multiple times that she is the jealous type.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 23:22

That whiteboard thing... Goes to show how little focus siyoo were given by the fandom that this has only been mentioned by 1 twt user. At this point they could have flat out said they were dating and the fandom would have ignored it because the focus was almost entirely on the 2 big ships and Yoohyeon's other dynamics, not suggesting they were but still. Siyeon's only non unnie line dynamic that was popular was gahsing and it was already labelled as the mother-child duo. 2yoo was pretty popular but had more of a niche following compared to jiyoo and suayeon. I dont think siyeon and yoohyeon as a potential thing was ever really on anyone's radar up until 2021 proper. Lchat was maybe the first place where people talked about those two being sus and even here people were only really humoring the siyoo anon till they dropped the sus things. We still just default to labelling them as potentially qpr because an in group relationship being exposed is a bad idea except nobody really seems to care what these two do together which kind of seems like the perfect cover.
I'm not suggesting they are a couple by the way, just that they dont really need to worry about being clocked as a couple by the fandom IF they were cause nobody really seems to care.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:34

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:11
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:32
Of course, it's hard to deal with inter-group relationships when things don't work out, but if you look at the opposite sex music group, they've always dated. So it wouldn't be strange IF siyoo naturally become a thing. They seem to have cleared the biggest limiting factor: they have a same-sex interest and are attracted to each other.

My delulu thoughts.
Omg I remember that whiteboard thing now you brought it up. That's actually one of the most sus things regarding a potential relationship.

It does make sense about Boca era. It seems to me that they may have spent a long time beforehand liking each other, judging by the way they have acted in past vlives.
Ok wow...

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:24

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 22:20
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:32
Of course, it's hard to deal with inter-group relationships when things don't work out, but if you look at the opposite sex music group, they've always dated. So it wouldn't be strange IF siyoo naturally become a thing. They seem to have cleared the biggest limiting factor: they have a same-sex interest and are attracted to each other.

My delulu thoughts.
Op of the pic has edited out other stuff and sharpedned the picture. The Kim Yoohyeon ❤ Lee Siyeon thing is sus. What's more sus is the giant Yes!! in the og picture.
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Lmfao I just realized the yes is from before the siyoo thing. My bad lmao.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:20

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:32
Of course, it's hard to deal with inter-group relationships when things don't work out, but if you look at the opposite sex music group, they've always dated. So it wouldn't be strange IF siyoo naturally become a thing. They seem to have cleared the biggest limiting factor: they have a same-sex interest and are attracted to each other.

My delulu thoughts.
Op of the pic has edited out other stuff and sharpedned the picture. The Kim Yoohyeon ❤ Lee Siyeon thing is sus. What's more sus is the giant Yes!! in the og picture.
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Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 22:11

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 17:32
Of course, it's hard to deal with inter-group relationships when things don't work out, but if you look at the opposite sex music group, they've always dated. So it wouldn't be strange IF siyoo naturally become a thing. They seem to have cleared the biggest limiting factor: they have a same-sex interest and are attracted to each other.

My delulu thoughts.
Omg I remember that whiteboard thing now you brought it up. That's actually one of the most sus things regarding a potential relationship.

It does make sense about Boca era. It seems to me that they may have spent a long time beforehand liking each other, judging by the way they have acted in past vlives.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 17:32

Of course, it's hard to deal with inter-group relationships when things don't work out, but if you look at the opposite sex music group, they've always dated. So it wouldn't be strange IF siyoo naturally become a thing. They seem to have cleared the biggest limiting factor: they have a same-sex interest and are attracted to each other.

My delulu thoughts.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 16:32

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 15:01
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 14:10
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 06:26
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 17:26

My sticking point is: Why would members at times signal for them to tone it down? Like... Since when do DC care about looking gay? It leads me to believe there is something to be careful about with them honestly. I've not seen it for any other pairing, they are left to wild out as much as they like.

If walks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
Another moment.
Hmm. Seems to be Sua and Dami that want them to be cautious. Sua, queen of mega gay fanservice :lol:
I don't even care about whether or not siyoo have something going on as cute as they are, I just want to know why. Cause dc are cool with-
-heavy ship fanservice
-really over the top gay stage fanservice
-gay chicken games and play flirting
-Sua saying she wants to eat a lesbian
-Jiu saying she'll use her tongue on Sua
-blatant ass and boob groping
-sleeping in each other's bed
-bringing attention to members being flirty or groping etc
-Yoohyeon likes to watch people fresh out of the shower
-Minji walks around the dorm in her undies
-Siyeon's detailed ppts on member's bodies
-clingyness and open affection
but we draw the line at the known to be flirty and cuddly being cuddly and flirty with each other on camera.
It's been over really inoffensive things as well that I honestly don't think anyone would read into, so I don't get it. If it's about trying to get people to not speculate about their sexualities, then surely it makes more sense to get them to tone down the gay comments (shower and the numerous gay stuff Yooh says, wifeys, body essays and so on)

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 15:01

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 14:10
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 06:26
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 17:26

My sticking point is: Why would members at times signal for them to tone it down? Like... Since when do DC care about looking gay? It leads me to believe there is something to be careful about with them honestly. I've not seen it for any other pairing, they are left to wild out as much as they like.

If walks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
Another moment.
Hmm. Seems to be Sua and Dami that want them to be cautious. Sua, queen of mega gay fanservice :lol:
I don't even care about whether or not siyoo have something going on as cute as they are, I just want to know why. Cause dc are cool with-
-heavy ship fanservice
-really over the top gay stage fanservice
-gay chicken games and play flirting
-Sua saying she wants to eat a lesbian
-Jiu saying she'll use her tongue on Sua
-blatant ass and boob groping
-sleeping in each other's bed
-bringing attention to members being flirty or groping etc
-Yoohyeon likes to watch people fresh out of the shower
-Minji walks around the dorm in her undies
-Siyeon's detailed ppts on member's bodies
-clingyness and open affection
but we draw the line at the known to be flirty and cuddly being cuddly and flirty with each other on camera.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 14:10

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 06:26
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 17:26

My sticking point is: Why would members at times signal for them to tone it down? Like... Since when do DC care about looking gay? It leads me to believe there is something to be careful about with them honestly. I've not seen it for any other pairing, they are left to wild out as much as they like.

If walks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
Another moment.
Hmm. Seems to be Sua and Dami that want them to be cautious. Sua, queen of mega gay fanservice :lol:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 14:02

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 09:50
There is no way her and Dami don't know exactly how queer women perceive them. :rofl:
The sound OP made... :rofl:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 10:19

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 09:27
I brought up the family thing and I meant the situation in Asia in general, the pressure from your family to get married and have children especially gahdong who don’t have any siblings. I have a sister who got married recently so she kind of made my mom ease up on me a bit but she’s still constantly trying to set me up with some random guy she found. (I’m not out to her) With that in mind I think it’s weird that we haven’t heard a peep about any boyfriends at all, they’re an older group and they really don’t have to be that strictly publicly single and forever innocent anymore.
That depends. We are talking about a group that was relatively unknown in Korea until 2022 and doesn't have the same level of fanatic following as domestically famous groups. I dont even think dc have dedicated saesangs except that one guy that tried to stalk minji back in their early days and was threatened by DCC. When you talk about dc as a veteran group you are comparing them to groups that are veteran and have been popular since atleast their second or third year. Domestically DC didnt really hit anyone's radar till they were already veterans. Idols typically get caught dating in their early years because being young makes them less cautious. But even then they are a group that desperately needed to focus on work due to a previous failure.

There is also the fact that a majority of women in South Korea are refusing to get married. The political situation for women is absolutely horrendous and I doubt Gahyeon's parents would pressure her into getting married when she has been raised to be this strong willed and career oriented. Handong is filthy rich and very rebellious as well as living in a seperate country. Sua, Siyeon, Yoohyeon and Dami all have older siblings and all of them have sibling who are married barring Dami as far as i know. Jiu is the only one who is the older sibling and she has a recently stabilized career right now which will get negatively impacted to some extent by her revealing she has an SO. Who knows maybe we'll get some dating reveals against their consent in the future, maybe they'll just drop the news of a wedding/relationship on the fans suddenly. We didnt even fully figure out that the girls had moved out of the dorms until recently, its highly unlikely we would know they are dating when its something they would actively try to keep under wraps.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 09:50

There is no way her and Dami don't know exactly how queer women perceive them.
Seriously unlike the other member's general sex jokes these two slide right into sapphic jokes. Remember when Dami made a top/bottom joke during the the jacket shoot for villains?

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 09:27

I brought up the family thing and I meant the situation in Asia in general, the pressure from your family to get married and have children especially gahdong who don’t have any siblings. I have a sister who got married recently so she kind of made my mom ease up on me a bit but she’s still constantly trying to set me up with some random guy she found. (I’m not out to her) With that in mind I think it’s weird that we haven’t heard a peep about any boyfriends at all, they’re an older group and they really don’t have to be that strictly publicly single and forever innocent anymore.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 08:41

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 04:43
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 02:32

But what do you mean by their family situations?
Da I think Sua? I saw posts here stating that she had a pretty bad relationship with her family, idk if that factored into her living alone. I do if they're relationship is good/better now.
I'm still learning about the group (and page catching the thread) so please correct my post if the info is wrong.
Sua has good relations with her family as seen in several vlives and notes and behinds. Her brother came to see their performance with his kids, she gushes about the kids often, her dad adores her and she called up her mum in that one scream era note with the 3 way conversation. She was living alone because she has been a trainee since she was 14 not because of any conflict. Yoohyeon has visited her family home with her, her and Siyeon have gone on hiking trips with Sua's parents.
Older posts and posters were functioning on very limited information about the girls and a lot of contextual information was lost. She mentioned an argument she had with her parents once and the fandom ran with it and as fandoms are known to do sort of just slapped the "complicated family situation" label on there.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 06:26

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 17:26

My sticking point is: Why would members at times signal for them to tone it down? Like... Since when do DC care about looking gay? It leads me to believe there is something to be careful about with them honestly. I've not seen it for any other pairing, they are left to wild out as much as they like.

If walks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
Another moment.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 05:14

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 04:43

Da I think Sua? I saw posts here stating that she had a pretty bad relationship with her family, idk if that factored into her living alone. I do if they're relationship is good/better now.
I'm still learning about the group (and page catching the thread) so please correct my post if the info is wrong.
Ah the old posts. Yea there was some misunderstandings in the old posts. Sua doesn't have bad relations with her family, they are strict and she takes her stubbornness from them. It was just the occasional arguments with her parents in their early days which is normal given that she had been living away since she was 14. But she seems close to them.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 05:10

I mean, I dont understand what you mean by not having talked about men. Talking about men directly is actually an unusual thing in kpop. 3rd gen onwards idols were removed from mixed gender situations entirely and ever since the spreading of kpop to the western market female idols in particular have been pushed to stay as neutral as possible. The few times idols use a gendered term is actually more uncommon. Sua unprompted talking about someone being a good husband and father is rarer than Gahyeon saying spouse. Siyeon saying ideal woman was even rarer pre pandemic because it took away the neutrality and when asked to elaborate on why she liked her she didnt bring up the ideal part on the TV interview cause it probably had more reach to the korean gp.
Dami being sus doesn't really come from gender neutrality, it comes from some of her remarks, awareness of queer culture, her changing the lyrics to a being wlw in her pepermint chocolate cover, and a few other things here and there. Even Jiu has spent her entire career pushing the girlfriend and boyfriend jokes only to drop a comment in 2022 that heavily implied she tends to default to same sex coffee dates not being romantic.
As for the members who have never mentioned men, the only interview where the girls have mentioned men was a written interview. Koreans explicitly do not use gendered pronouns in normal conversations, its just not how the language works. They keep things contextual and stay gender neutral with words that mean person or someone. So I really doubt suddenly all the girls barring 2 became an anomaly and started dropping "man" in interviews. Besdies as mentioned before interviewers often tack on a random "man" in subtitles and translations. Jiu supposedly saying "a boy" in her ideal type in 2019 nadol interview and Siyeon's "a man with good sense" In the same never happened. They simply never said the words boy or man but the subtitles automatically translated their words and tacked on genders, Yoohyeon just flat out corrected them when they tried to say man. So no I doubt Jiu, Siyeon, Yoohyeon and Dami all randomly said men. Even Sua I have a hard time believing said the word man in that interview because she also talks with neutral pronouns. The only time I do believe she brought up men was a) the use of words like husband and father in a written interview and b) the husband in the 2020 interview with Gahyeon.

I am not shutting down any speculation on gahdong by the way, I just think that not talking about men doesn't really mean all that much given the current environement in korea is very shitty in regards to the kind of men there, the general gender neutral language and the gendered seperation of idols since 3rd gen. Rather than sticking to neutrality Siyeon actively avoids talking about them, even snaps her mouth shut at the word, randomly coughs at being asked the if you were a man question, gets visibly uncomfortable at being asked about marriage etc to men which is sus but not much when looked at in a vacuum. In a similar case Gahyeon's disregard of men in men vs money conversations is lowkey sus and her use of the descriptor pretty is lowkey sus but there isnt much there.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 04:43

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 02:32
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 00:28
I'm still really sus about the members who never talk about anything at all especially given their family situations :spy: I know it's statistically unlikely that so many queer people end up within the same group but none of them or any sasaengs have ever mentioned a boyfriend ever and it's getting suspicious. Dami pings to high heavens I cannot imagine her with a man ever, gahdong have never explicitly stated any attraction towards men either...
Tbh I'm not that surprised. More and more it's getting extended the time by which idols get married and more intense the fandoms, so dating and love-talk is being less encouraged on idols compared to past generations, no one will say a peep. Also, the (straight) dating scene in South Korea right now is... not that good. 4B didn't come out of thin air. Unless they've been dating for a few years already with someone decent, I wouldn't be surprised if most or all of them are single right now

As for wlw possibilities, no one would knew, that's I guess a good thing. I mean, they could easily be dating a girl and no one would suspect it if they say "friend" unless they kiss or get too lovey-dovey outside. They could be going out eating, having dates, just walking around and unless they do it too often everyone will just ignore it because they'll look like friends. Gahyeon is often out and going on trips with her friends, Jiu has gone out with that one friend enough times that the fandom already know who she talks about, Handong goes out with V!v! often enough that it has become an inside joke, Dami has already invited friends to her studio so there's no reason why she couldn't be inviting people there
(not saying those ones are dating, just as example that no one bats an eye if it's 2 women)

But what do you mean by their family situations?
Da I think Sua? I saw posts here stating that she had a pretty bad relationship with her family, idk if that factored into her living alone. I do if they're relationship is good/better now.
I'm still learning about the group (and page catching the thread) so please correct my post if the info is wrong.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 02:32

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 00:28
I'm still really sus about the members who never talk about anything at all especially given their family situations :spy: I know it's statistically unlikely that so many queer people end up within the same group but none of them or any sasaengs have ever mentioned a boyfriend ever and it's getting suspicious. Dami pings to high heavens I cannot imagine her with a man ever, gahdong have never explicitly stated any attraction towards men either...
Tbh I'm not that surprised. More and more it's getting extended the time by which idols get married and more intense the fandoms, so dating and love-talk is being less encouraged on idols compared to past generations, no one will say a peep. Also, the (straight) dating scene in South Korea right now is... not that good. 4B didn't come out of thin air. Unless they've been dating for a few years already with someone decent, I wouldn't be surprised if most or all of them are single right now

As for wlw possibilities, no one would knew, that's I guess a good thing. I mean, they could easily be dating a girl and no one would suspect it if they say "friend" unless they kiss or get too lovey-dovey outside. They could be going out eating, having dates, just walking around and unless they do it too often everyone will just ignore it because they'll look like friends. Gahyeon is often out and going on trips with her friends, Jiu has gone out with that one friend enough times that the fandom already know who she talks about, Handong goes out with V!v! often enough that it has become an inside joke, Dami has already invited friends to her studio so there's no reason why she couldn't be inviting people there
(not saying those ones are dating, just as example that no one bats an eye if it's 2 women)

But what do you mean by their family situations?

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 00:28

I'm still really sus about the members who never talk about anything at all especially given their family situations :spy: I know it's statistically unlikely that so many queer people end up within the same group but none of them or any sasaengs have ever mentioned a boyfriend ever and it's getting suspicious. Dami pings to high heavens I cannot imagine her with a man ever, gahdong have never explicitly stated any attraction towards men either...

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 23:42

guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 23:10
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 22:45
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 22:28
guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 21:46
First of all someone on the previous page was talking about a sus siyoo deleted neogen live so share it i want to see it.

Although i really love the idea siyoo dating each other and having a lover and all the sus moments we see i just don't think they are dating idk. I just feel siyeon is yoohyeons lifelong support system.

I just feel like they have such a close and intense bond that it may seem like a relationship and i really want to believe it i don't think dating in is smart and they know that. They probably don't have a lot of dating experience and found such a comfort in each other.
I can be on board with that and it may indeed be the case but it still begs the question to why such a close and epic lifelong comfort bond is downplayed? I think everyone is in agreement here that they seem to have something really special whether it's friendship or more, due to the extreme glued-togetherness and closeness through nearly all of DC's history.

If I was going off stage antics and interviews I would think they were not close at all honestly. Yoohyeon is not shy with talking about soulmatism. She gleefully will say how Dami is her best friend, made specific best friend tiktoks about how different but compatible as besties they are, she was in interviews in the past saying they wanted to live with each other in the future and get a dog. (Before she had Pie)

Yet when you observe her and I do keenly as my bias, she is spending time with and snuggling Siyeon vast majority of times. Another poster said on a past page it's to the point that even Dami has looked like a third wheel, which made me chuckle because it has been true.

I think it speaks for itself that the reason they're not that popular as a pairing in the fandom is because of this downplaying taking effect. People aren't given stuff to latch onto like with others. Something is off/weird. Like, if they were open about the extent of their bond i'd be WAY less sus.
When i first got into dc around 2020 some people had made a joke about siyoo being real because of the boca vlive clingyness and some hard suayeon stans thought the jokes were serious and insisted that siyoo dont even interact and that sua already implied that her and Siyeon had done stuff. Kpop fans are young, a lot of them are new to kpop and fanservice/ships and tend to take things at face value. Everywhere I looked anytime someone asked bout the closest friendships people would never mention siyoo or singbin. Siyeon's relationships outside of gahsing, suayeon and unnie line were completely ignored by and large. Even though they had always been clise af. There is an old interview clip of Siyeon being asked to talk about Yoohyeon's charm that i thought was lost but i found again recently. Its never really brought up anywhere.
https://www.tumblr.com/lnkedmyheart/696 ... urce=share
Idkkkkkkkkk anymore but reading deeply in their relationships makes my head hurt. but in a way that im actually so jealous, having such close lifelong bond with someone. actually all their bonds with each other and their whole group dynamic makes me so jealous i just want that too. Their bonds with each other and is this case siyoo is so deep and far beyond a lot of most people's friendship with each other that we may are not even able to understand it fully and it's too wholesome may it be a relaitonship or not.
im way too lonely in life rn.
Same situation anon. You're not alone :hug:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by guest » 26 Mar 2024, 23:10

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 22:45
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 22:28
guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 21:46
First of all someone on the previous page was talking about a sus siyoo deleted neogen live so share it i want to see it.

Although i really love the idea siyoo dating each other and having a lover and all the sus moments we see i just don't think they are dating idk. I just feel siyeon is yoohyeons lifelong support system.

I just feel like they have such a close and intense bond that it may seem like a relationship and i really want to believe it i don't think dating in is smart and they know that. They probably don't have a lot of dating experience and found such a comfort in each other.
I can be on board with that and it may indeed be the case but it still begs the question to why such a close and epic lifelong comfort bond is downplayed? I think everyone is in agreement here that they seem to have something really special whether it's friendship or more, due to the extreme glued-togetherness and closeness through nearly all of DC's history.

If I was going off stage antics and interviews I would think they were not close at all honestly. Yoohyeon is not shy with talking about soulmatism. She gleefully will say how Dami is her best friend, made specific best friend tiktoks about how different but compatible as besties they are, she was in interviews in the past saying they wanted to live with each other in the future and get a dog. (Before she had Pie)

Yet when you observe her and I do keenly as my bias, she is spending time with and snuggling Siyeon vast majority of times. Another poster said on a past page it's to the point that even Dami has looked like a third wheel, which made me chuckle because it has been true.

I think it speaks for itself that the reason they're not that popular as a pairing in the fandom is because of this downplaying taking effect. People aren't given stuff to latch onto like with others. Something is off/weird. Like, if they were open about the extent of their bond i'd be WAY less sus.
When i first got into dc around 2020 some people had made a joke about siyoo being real because of the boca vlive clingyness and some hard suayeon stans thought the jokes were serious and insisted that siyoo dont even interact and that sua already implied that her and Siyeon had done stuff. Kpop fans are young, a lot of them are new to kpop and fanservice/ships and tend to take things at face value. Everywhere I looked anytime someone asked bout the closest friendships people would never mention siyoo or singbin. Siyeon's relationships outside of gahsing, suayeon and unnie line were completely ignored by and large. Even though they had always been clise af. There is an old interview clip of Siyeon being asked to talk about Yoohyeon's charm that i thought was lost but i found again recently. Its never really brought up anywhere.
https://www.tumblr.com/lnkedmyheart/696 ... urce=share
Idkkkkkkkkk anymore but reading deeply in their relationships makes my head hurt. but in a way that im actually so jealous, having such close lifelong bond with someone. actually all their bonds with each other and their whole group dynamic makes me so jealous i just want that too. Their bonds with each other and is this case siyoo is so deep and far beyond a lot of most people's friendship with each other that we may are not even able to understand it fully and it's too wholesome may it be a relaitonship or not.
im way too lonely in life rn.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 23:10

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 22:28
guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 21:46
First of all someone on the previous page was talking about a sus siyoo deleted neogen live so share it i want to see it.

Although i really love the idea siyoo dating each other and having a lover and all the sus moments we see i just don't think they are dating idk. I just feel siyeon is yoohyeons lifelong support system.

I just feel like they have such a close and intense bond that it may seem like a relationship and i really want to believe it i don't think dating in is smart and they know that. They probably don't have a lot of dating experience and found such a comfort in each other.
I can be on board with that and it may indeed be the case but it still begs the question to why such a close and epic lifelong comfort bond is downplayed? I think everyone is in agreement here that they seem to have something really special whether it's friendship or more, due to the extreme glued-togetherness and closeness through nearly all of DC's history.

If I was going off stage antics and interviews I would think they were not close at all honestly. Yoohyeon is not shy with talking about soulmatism. She gleefully will say how Dami is her best friend, made specific best friend tiktoks about how different but compatible as besties they are, she was in interviews in the past saying they wanted to live with each other in the future and get a dog. (Before she had Pie)

Yet when you observe her and I do keenly as my bias, she is spending time with and snuggling Siyeon vast majority of times. Another poster said on a past page it's to the point that even Dami has looked like a third wheel, which made me chuckle because it has been true.

I think it speaks for itself that the reason they're not that popular as a pairing in the fandom is because of this downplaying taking effect. People aren't given stuff to latch onto like with others. Something is off/weird. Like, if they were open about the extent of their bond i'd be WAY less sus.
I still think about Yoohyeon's icked sound and Siyeon's perfectly timed cough.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 22:45

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 22:28
guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 21:46
First of all someone on the previous page was talking about a sus siyoo deleted neogen live so share it i want to see it.

Although i really love the idea siyoo dating each other and having a lover and all the sus moments we see i just don't think they are dating idk. I just feel siyeon is yoohyeons lifelong support system.

I just feel like they have such a close and intense bond that it may seem like a relationship and i really want to believe it i don't think dating in is smart and they know that. They probably don't have a lot of dating experience and found such a comfort in each other.
I can be on board with that and it may indeed be the case but it still begs the question to why such a close and epic lifelong comfort bond is downplayed? I think everyone is in agreement here that they seem to have something really special whether it's friendship or more, due to the extreme glued-togetherness and closeness through nearly all of DC's history.

If I was going off stage antics and interviews I would think they were not close at all honestly. Yoohyeon is not shy with talking about soulmatism. She gleefully will say how Dami is her best friend, made specific best friend tiktoks about how different but compatible as besties they are, she was in interviews in the past saying they wanted to live with each other in the future and get a dog. (Before she had Pie)

Yet when you observe her and I do keenly as my bias, she is spending time with and snuggling Siyeon vast majority of times. Another poster said on a past page it's to the point that even Dami has looked like a third wheel, which made me chuckle because it has been true.

I think it speaks for itself that the reason they're not that popular as a pairing in the fandom is because of this downplaying taking effect. People aren't given stuff to latch onto like with others. Something is off/weird. Like, if they were open about the extent of their bond i'd be WAY less sus.
When i first got into dc around 2020 some people had made a joke about siyoo being real because of the boca vlive clingyness and some hard suayeon stans thought the jokes were serious and insisted that siyoo dont even interact and that sua already implied that her and Siyeon had done stuff. Kpop fans are young, a lot of them are new to kpop and fanservice/ships and tend to take things at face value. Everywhere I looked anytime someone asked bout the closest friendships people would never mention siyoo or singbin. Siyeon's relationships outside of gahsing, suayeon and unnie line were completely ignored by and large. Even though they had always been clise af. There is an old interview clip of Siyeon being asked to talk about Yoohyeon's charm that i thought was lost but i found again recently. Its never really brought up anywhere.
https://www.tumblr.com/lnkedmyheart/696 ... urce=share

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 22:28

guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 21:46
First of all someone on the previous page was talking about a sus siyoo deleted neogen live so share it i want to see it.

Although i really love the idea siyoo dating each other and having a lover and all the sus moments we see i just don't think they are dating idk. I just feel siyeon is yoohyeons lifelong support system.

I just feel like they have such a close and intense bond that it may seem like a relationship and i really want to believe it i don't think dating in is smart and they know that. They probably don't have a lot of dating experience and found such a comfort in each other.
I can be on board with that and it may indeed be the case but it still begs the question to why such a close and epic lifelong comfort bond is downplayed? I think everyone is in agreement here that they seem to have something really special whether it's friendship or more, due to the extreme glued-togetherness and closeness through nearly all of DC's history.

If I was going off stage antics and interviews I would think they were not close at all honestly. Yoohyeon is not shy with talking about soulmatism. She gleefully will say how Dami is her best friend, made specific best friend tiktoks about how different but compatible as besties they are, she was in interviews in the past saying they wanted to live with each other in the future and get a dog. (Before she had Pie)

Yet when you observe her and I do keenly as my bias, she is spending time with and snuggling Siyeon vast majority of times. Another poster said on a past page it's to the point that even Dami has looked like a third wheel, which made me chuckle because it has been true.

I think it speaks for itself that the reason they're not that popular as a pairing in the fandom is because of this downplaying taking effect. People aren't given stuff to latch onto like with others. Something is off/weird. Like, if they were open about the extent of their bond i'd be WAY less sus.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 22:14

guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 21:46
First of all someone on the previous page was talking about a sus siyoo deleted neogen live so share it i want to see it.

Although i really love the idea siyoo dating each other and having a lover and all the sus moments we see i just don't think they are dating idk. I just feel siyeon is yoohyeons lifelong support system.

I just feel like they have such a close and intense bond that it may seem like a relationship and i really want to believe it i don't think dating in is smart and they know that. They probably don't have a lot of dating experience and found such a comfort in each other.

Also when the first scream choreo part i thought it was so real but like in barcelona and warsaw you saw how staged it was bc yooh;s timing was a little second off so she moved her head too fast. However of course every concert it got more intense although not taking away they are both women kissers

I also just think an interesting thing about their contract negeotations they are more free to express themselves?
bc after november 2022 siyeon started to dress boyish again instead of the ''weird'' overall femine clothing. I just have a theory that siyeon may was never like fully out in her inner circle, maybe with the girls or in doubt because you know korea is conservative as f... so she tried a really femine phase, i kind of had that too wearing lost of dresses, femine crop tops and all but eventually being yourself feels more comfortable. so she may finally found the peace idk we only see so little of their thoughts actually. like we the things they say in a interview of like 2018 it's almost 5-6 years ago.

It's just another interesting topic how we view their personalities like they changed a lot in the years just matured. its a general thing for celebritites we see old footage and still think they like the specific music or clothing or food they told in the interview but people change. If you look at yourself you may like more food or dislike it it's funny to think about it
Lol dont worry anon, we are all just speculating. There is something up with these two regardless of the nature of their relationship. It has been discussed multiple times in the past. We just dont know what it is exactly and a romantic angle is just one of the possibilities. I am of the opinion that while a relationship might explain the oddness of their dynamic and how the other members diffuse their behaviour it could just be a really intense friendship (which they keep downplaying for some reason).

As for the scream choreo being authentic or staged, its stage choreo, its obviously planned out with a choreographer and then performed multiple times in a practice room to be seamless. Even then it was the tamest gay choreo dc has done. And its not news to us that the girls all intensify the gay parts of the choreo with each venue and plan out how to go about it because any misjudging can mess up the move. Jiyoo always plan out how to do their bon voyage gesture, siyoo used to plan out their odd eye gesture, all the girls would usually plan out their no dot choreo and For choreo. I think the only time For wasn't planned out was the time Yoohyeon dragged Siyeon along when performing it for the first time ever on stage in the 2022 tour cause Siyeon was extremely surprised by it and didnt really know what to do.

Also here's the moment from the neogen vlive where Yoohyeon says she wants to smell Siyeon's perfume and plants a kiss on her hand. The sound got caught on Jiu's collar mic and Jiu's reaction was an uncontrollable smile. Both proceeded to pretend like nothing happened.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by guest » 26 Mar 2024, 21:46

First of all someone on the previous page was talking about a sus siyoo deleted neogen live so share it i want to see it.

Although i really love the idea siyoo dating each other and having a lover and all the sus moments we see i just don't think they are dating idk. I just feel siyeon is yoohyeons lifelong support system.

I just feel like they have such a close and intense bond that it may seem like a relationship and i really want to believe it i don't think dating in is smart and they know that. They probably don't have a lot of dating experience and found such a comfort in each other.

Also when the first scream choreo part i thought it was so real but like in barcelona and warsaw you saw how staged it was bc yooh;s timing was a little second off so she moved her head too fast. However of course every concert it got more intense although not taking away they are both women kissers

I also just think an interesting thing about their contract negeotations they are more free to express themselves?
bc after november 2022 siyeon started to dress boyish again instead of the ''weird'' overall femine clothing. I just have a theory that siyeon may was never like fully out in her inner circle, maybe with the girls or in doubt because you know korea is conservative as f... so she tried a really femine phase, i kind of had that too wearing lost of dresses, femine crop tops and all but eventually being yourself feels more comfortable. so she may finally found the peace idk we only see so little of their thoughts actually. like we the things they say in a interview of like 2018 it's almost 5-6 years ago.

It's just another interesting topic how we view their personalities like they changed a lot in the years just matured. its a general thing for celebritites we see old footage and still think they like the specific music or clothing or food they told in the interview but people change. If you look at yourself you may like more food or dislike it it's funny to think about it

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 21:32

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 20:56
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 19:01
See in regards to in-group dating in kpop I agree that starting a relationship is kind of a bad idea.
True though we're all human and humans do dumb things especially if they are in love and a bit blinded. It wouldn't be the first nor last time it happened.

I think it would probably be somewhat easy to mask a relationship though with a trustworthy and good group dynamic, maybe even more so than a rel outside of the group with dispatch predators. You're spending so much time together as group anyway day and night that it isn't sus, spending time outside schedules is even considered normal and encouraged by fans, if you're caught flirting people think it's fanservice. Other members can take the spotlight off you by doing wild fanservice and upping affection displays, you could even encourage other ships with yourself for misdirection purposes as long as your partner agreed.
Moreover hypothetically if there is a relationship between these two, neither has any kind of responsibility towards the other members in a career sense so issues arising from favouritism get ruled out, all the other members are supportive so homophobia or any kind of weirdness is out of the picture, both of them have had a fuck the police attitude and are stubborn go-getters, and given that Siyeon is known for immediately diffusing any fight/argument/misunderstanding by talking it out right then and there regardless of situation instead of letting it fester means there is a very low chance of any actual long term conflict even in the case of an argument etc. People typically don't think about the consequences of a relationship when they decide to get in one.
This is just in a hypothetical scenario. If we consider idols dumb for trying to date within a group where they have layers and layers of protection from the public eye over the possibility of some future conflict, what would they be for trying to date in general where you can be outed if someone felt like it?

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 21:15

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 20:56
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 19:01
See in regards to in-group dating in kpop I agree that starting a relationship is kind of a bad idea.
True though we're all human and humans do dumb things especially if they are in love and a bit blinded. It wouldn't be the first nor last time it happened.

I think it would probably be somewhat easy to mask a relationship though with a trustworthy and good group dynamic, maybe even more so than a rel outside of the group with dispatch predators. You're spending so much time together as group anyway day and night that it isn't sus, spending time outside schedules is even considered normal and encouraged by fans, if you're caught flirting people think it's fanservice. Other members can take the spotlight off you by doing wild fanservice and upping affection displays, you could even encourage other ships with yourself for misdirection purposes as long as your partner agreed.
2x it's not much different from dating a co-worker, people do it allll the time. They don't quit because of a breakup they just have to deal with it and stay professional, this is a job like any other (esp. because they've been able to afford their own places for a while now, no need to stay in the dorm if it's uncomfortable). And it is definitely easy to hide I bet there are in-group couples in kpop happening right now that nobody has a clue about whatsoever. Not saying anything is for sure going on within dc but people have been doing dumb shit like dating the "wrong people" for centuries and it won't stop at kpop. Even if you date another idol outside of your group you will be forced to see that person all the time, be that for comebacks or variety/award shows since you're still working in the same industry. It's bound to be awkward no matter what.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 20:56

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 19:01
See in regards to in-group dating in kpop I agree that starting a relationship is kind of a bad idea.
True though we're all human and humans do dumb things especially if they are in love and a bit blinded. It wouldn't be the first nor last time it happened.

I think it would probably be somewhat easy to mask a relationship though with a trustworthy and good group dynamic, maybe even more so than a rel outside of the group with dispatch predators. You're spending so much time together as group anyway day and night that it isn't sus, spending time outside schedules is even considered normal and encouraged by fans, if you're caught flirting people think it's fanservice. Other members can take the spotlight off you by doing wild fanservice and upping affection displays, you could even encourage other ships with yourself for misdirection purposes as long as your partner agreed.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 20:24

In terms of obvious we already have siyeon's random pride flag post on insta from 2022, her pride shoes in june 2023, whatever she was on throughout Jan Feb and March. Yoohyeon outright posted a picture hugging that rainbow baloon in pride month and now Dami's extremely sus flag/banner thing as well as her sus lyrics from 2022 dessert cover. I am inclined to believe that the girls are possibly feeling bolder and more secure now that they have basically established themselves and gotten past the biggest hurdles both internationally and domestically. I dont expect either of singbin of explicitly come out but there has been a lot of flagging recently.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 20:09


The way Yoohyeon reprimands Siyeon here for joking that she doesn't watch the member's vlives.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 20:01

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 19:44
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 19:27
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 16:39

DA imo I don't think the group is dumb enough to date within themselves. That's seriously asking for trouble. I'm sure they crush on and are playful, soft and/or flirtatious with one another, but I feel like that's where it ends. It's also a bit difficult for me to be sus of their behavior because of their group dynamics. It just seems normal to me. They're chaotic together but you can always find soft moments between members when they're not the focus of the camera.
Soft moments would be the girls hugging each other or planting kisses on each other or just being generally clingy and affectionate. Some off camera siyoo moments include Siyeon grabbing Yoohyeon by the body chain and tugging it like a leash, noticing Yoohyeon has half her shirt off while coming towards her making direct eye contact and pretending to take her own shirt off at which Yoohyeon smacks her shoulder they both laugh and Siyeon gets embarrassed because Sooyoung was looking their way, the kiss Yoohyeon planted on her hand under the guise of sniffing her perfume and both of them pretending nothing happened etc. Its notable imo because they don't really flirt or do any fanservice to that degree on camera or on stage while everyone else plays up their regular off stage behaviour behaviour for the camera.
Also when Siyeon mouthed to Yooh she was pretty, making her giggly/shy and you have to basically lip read to catch it. There's actually been numerous times they seem to be saying something privately to each other that the other seems to get shy/flattered by. That award vlive I posted earlier has a moment like that also.

But yes exactly. A lot of their flirting moments are:

A) During group content while focus is on other people
B) Discreetly not intending anyone to notice or see

They don't try to make themselves shippy with outlandish behaviour in front of the camera at all, which is why i'm so fascinated with them. Whatever it is seems to be between them only.

We may end up seeing more obvious stuff if they are letting loose finally.
DA Mind you Siyeon is a self admitted flirt and does so loudly with anything and everything while Yoohyeon is greasy af. They could get away with blatant play flirting with each other if they wanted like they do with other members. They just don't for whatever reason.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 19:44

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 19:27
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 16:39

DA imo I don't think the group is dumb enough to date within themselves. That's seriously asking for trouble. I'm sure they crush on and are playful, soft and/or flirtatious with one another, but I feel like that's where it ends. It's also a bit difficult for me to be sus of their behavior because of their group dynamics. It just seems normal to me. They're chaotic together but you can always find soft moments between members when they're not the focus of the camera.
Soft moments would be the girls hugging each other or planting kisses on each other or just being generally clingy and affectionate. Some off camera siyoo moments include Siyeon grabbing Yoohyeon by the body chain and tugging it like a leash, noticing Yoohyeon has half her shirt off while coming towards her making direct eye contact and pretending to take her own shirt off at which Yoohyeon smacks her shoulder they both laugh and Siyeon gets embarrassed because Sooyoung was looking their way, the kiss Yoohyeon planted on her hand under the guise of sniffing her perfume and both of them pretending nothing happened etc. Its notable imo because they don't really flirt or do any fanservice to that degree on camera or on stage while everyone else plays up their regular off stage behaviour behaviour for the camera.
Also when Siyeon mouthed to Yooh she was pretty, making her giggly/shy and you have to basically lip read to catch it. There's actually been numerous times they seem to be saying something privately to each other that the other seems to get shy/flattered by. That award vlive I posted earlier has a moment like that also.

But yes exactly. A lot of their flirting moments are:

A) During group content while focus is on other people
B) Discreetly not intending anyone to notice or see

They don't try to make themselves shippy with outlandish behaviour in front of the camera at all, which is why i'm so fascinated with them. Whatever it is seems to be between them only.

We may end up seeing more obvious stuff if they are letting loose finally.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 19:32

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 19:27
Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 16:39

DA imo I don't think the group is dumb enough to date within themselves. That's seriously asking for trouble. I'm sure they crush on and are playful, soft and/or flirtatious with one another, but I feel like that's where it ends. It's also a bit difficult for me to be sus of their behavior because of their group dynamics. It just seems normal to me. They're chaotic together but you can always find soft moments between members when they're not the focus of the camera.
Soft moments would be the girls hugging each other or planting kisses on each other or just being generally clingy and affectionate. Some off camera siyoo moments include Siyeon grabbing Yoohyeon by the body chain and tugging it like a leash, noticing Yoohyeon has half her shirt off while coming towards her making direct eye contact and pretending to take her own shirt off at which Yoohyeon smacks her shoulder they both laugh and Siyeon gets embarrassed because Sooyoung was looking their way, the kiss Yoohyeon planted on her hand under the guise of sniffing her perfume and both of them pretending nothing happened etc. Its notable imo because they don't really flirt or do any fanservice to that degree on camera or on stage while everyone else plays up their regular off stage behaviour behaviour for the camera.
Sometimes when Yoohyeon climbs onto Siyeon for a hug other members awkwardly start looking away, like Dami in the vision era vlive and all the girls in the sunm1 note. Dami kept awkwardly looking over their heads even when her hand got caught under them.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 19:31

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 19:01
This whole conversation going on right now is really convincing but how do you explain the choreo change in Scream? That’s the most attention you could bring toward them. Not trying to troll btw, it’s just one thing that still has me hesitant about the theory especially because I don’t believe they’re the ONLY wlw in the group, if anything this would just point more towards them having something going on (or had in the past) rather than the members trying not to “out the gay ones”.
As much as people fangirl and scream over it, it's seen as choreo at the end of the day isn't it. Not a personal moment or anything. Easier to get away with, no one knows who suggested it or why and Gahyeon/Sua have equal if not more gay looking changes to Shatter along with it.

Siyoo are still largely staying away from each other during freestyle songs. Also as the other anon implied, I kind of agree with that they seem to be loosening up lately in general. I won't be surprised to see more if something has indeed changed to make them more comfortable.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 19:27

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 16:39

DA imo I don't think the group is dumb enough to date within themselves. That's seriously asking for trouble. I'm sure they crush on and are playful, soft and/or flirtatious with one another, but I feel like that's where it ends. It's also a bit difficult for me to be sus of their behavior because of their group dynamics. It just seems normal to me. They're chaotic together but you can always find soft moments between members when they're not the focus of the camera.
Soft moments would be the girls hugging each other or planting kisses on each other or just being generally clingy and affectionate. Some off camera siyoo moments include Siyeon grabbing Yoohyeon by the body chain and tugging it like a leash, noticing Yoohyeon has half her shirt off while coming towards her making direct eye contact and pretending to take her own shirt off at which Yoohyeon smacks her shoulder they both laugh and Siyeon gets embarrassed because Sooyoung was looking their way, the kiss Yoohyeon planted on her hand under the guise of sniffing her perfume and both of them pretending nothing happened etc. Its notable imo because they don't really flirt or do any fanservice to that degree on camera or on stage while everyone else plays up their regular off stage behaviour behaviour for the camera.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 26 Mar 2024, 19:12

Guest wrote:
26 Mar 2024, 19:01
This whole conversation going on right now is really convincing but how do you explain the choreo change in Scream? That’s the most attention you could bring toward them. Not trying to troll btw, it’s just one thing that still has me hesitant about the theory especially because I don’t believe they’re the ONLY wlw in the group, if anything this would just point more towards them having something going on (or had in the past) rather than the members trying not to “out the gay ones”.
Siyeon also pulled out her gayest looks in the Seoul concert where the scream choreo change happened for the first time, that's the most attention she can bring to herself and she did. Aside from that GahBo really went in with the gayness of shatter. Shatter choreo is leagues above SiYoo's scream choreo in terms of how blatantly gay it was. Outside of a handful of angles they actually keep a remarkable distance between them the whole time meanwhile GahBo were all out touching each other (or atleast Sua was) and getting super close. We also have 2 seperate JiYoo moments in the You and I and Shatter choreo. SiYoo barely interacted outside of that choreo at all and people are already over it and back to shipping SuaYeon and JiYoo. Besides Jiyoo and SuYoo had a ton of moments on stage.

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