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Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 12 minutes ago

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Lmao they have clearly talked about this.
Not entirely sure what to make of Jiu. When she has time to think and respond she gives very neutral responses and teases fans a lot but that one comment from 2022 was such a massive hetero normative slap that it's been seared into my brain. I don't really know what to make of her remarks any more. I just don't buy into the argument that she was so insanely comphet after 5 years of catering to shippers and queer fans. Remove the shipping goggles and I just don't see it anymore. Maybe I'm jaded.
Da I have to respectfully disagree about Jiu because it's been brought up so many times. This is without shipping goggles cause I don't believe any of the ships are real. I don't think that one moment is as bad as it's made it out to be tbh.

Speaking from personal experiences, comphet is a thing, even for many queer folks because that's mostly what we're surrounded by. I have been guilty of doing the same when someone was talking about a girlfriend/boyfriend I had automatically assumed that the partner was of opposite gender. It took me a lot of time to get rid of that mindset and even now I have to sometimes remind myself not to make assumptions. There's a reason why many bi women tend to end up with men because it's more socially accepted.

I don't have any opinions about Jiu's sexuality because I find her to be confusing. There have been few sus moments but she tends to be neutral in most cases so I don't know what to think.
My confusing thoughts about Jiu are basically for the same reason I'm confused about other members. Except for Sua, they just don't show interest in men, and they usually don't interact much on camera with other idols to compare. Usually I would think she's straight by default but I'm trying to correct that habit of me

So I try to get tidbits here and there to try to figure out where they might lean towards. And so far, Jiu doesn't have big weights on the wlw part, but she doesn't either on het part. It doesn't help that interviewers usually don't do love talk with them, and that fans since 3rd gen are really harsh on idols compared to 2nd gen

What I mean is, just taking clear things that had been given on their own instead of some fan setting them up, we know Sua and Yoohyeon like men because they have given specific physical traits on men that they like (Sua with muscles and Yoohyeon with faces), we know Yoohyeon also likes woman because her comments like "all people" more than once, we can assume Siyeon likes women because she has praised specific physical traits on women
Other than that, they haven't really said clear things. Sua had commented some things about women too but since it has been only in the context of actresses and not specific physical traits I'm not sure if it can be counted as attraction or fan praising. All members tend to speak in gender neutral, but since it's not hard to do that in korean I don't know how to take it, and when they fall into gendered is usually targeting woman and less on men and always in the context of fanservice

So my opinion only based on that is Siyeon's not het and bi yet to see, Yoohyeon's bi (pan), Sua's not les and bi yet to see, and the rest indeterminate so far. I can try and guess on other things, but that's just that, guessing, because that type of things could be explained by other reasons
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For me
Sua is not a lesbian but I don't have enough to see her as bi yet.
Siyeon is not het but likely a lesbian because she is so obvious about girls but has shown absolutely nothing about m*n. Idk I feel like if she is so bad at hiding interest in women she wouldn't be this good at hiding interest in m*n. Also she has shown more disdain for any m*n talk than any of the girls.
Yoohyeon is bi
Dami is imo definitely not het
Gahyeon is possibly bi.
Jiu and Handong are not people I speculate on much because that's like shooting in the dark.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 29 minutes ago

Guest wrote:
Today, 13:22
Guest wrote:
Today, 11:28
Lmao they have clearly talked about this.
Not entirely sure what to make of Jiu. When she has time to think and respond she gives very neutral responses and teases fans a lot but that one comment from 2022 was such a massive hetero normative slap that it's been seared into my brain. I don't really know what to make of her remarks any more. I just don't buy into the argument that she was so insanely comphet after 5 years of catering to shippers and queer fans. Remove the shipping goggles and I just don't see it anymore. Maybe I'm jaded.
Da I have to respectfully disagree about Jiu because it's been brought up so many times. This is without shipping goggles cause I don't believe any of the ships are real. I don't think that one moment is as bad as it's made it out to be tbh.

Speaking from personal experiences, comphet is a thing, even for many queer folks because that's mostly what we're surrounded by. I have been guilty of doing the same when someone was talking about a girlfriend/boyfriend I had automatically assumed that the partner was of opposite gender. It took me a lot of time to get rid of that mindset and even now I have to sometimes remind myself not to make assumptions. There's a reason why many bi women tend to end up with men because it's more socially accepted.

I don't have any opinions about Jiu's sexuality because I find her to be confusing. There have been few sus moments but she tends to be neutral in most cases so I don't know what to think.
My confusing thoughts about Jiu are basically for the same reason I'm confused about other members. Except for Sua, they just don't show interest in men, and they usually don't interact much on camera with other idols to compare. Usually I would think she's straight by default but I'm trying to correct that habit of me

So I try to get tidbits here and there to try to figure out where they might lean towards. And so far, Jiu doesn't have big weights on the wlw part, but she doesn't either on het part. It doesn't help that interviewers usually don't do love talk with them, and that fans since 3rd gen are really harsh on idols compared to 2nd gen

What I mean is, just taking clear things that had been given on their own instead of some fan setting them up, we know Sua and Yoohyeon like men because they have given specific physical traits on men that they like (Sua with muscles and Yoohyeon with faces), we know Yoohyeon also likes woman because her comments like "all people" more than once, we can assume Siyeon likes women because she has praised specific physical traits on women
Other than that, they haven't really said clear things. Sua had commented some things about women too but since it has been only in the context of actresses and not specific physical traits I'm not sure if it can be counted as attraction or fan praising. All members tend to speak in gender neutral, but since it's not hard to do that in korean I don't know how to take it, and when they fall into gendered is usually targeting woman and less on men and always in the context of fanservice

So my opinion only based on that is Siyeon's not het and bi yet to see, Yoohyeon's bi (pan), Sua's not les and bi yet to see, and the rest indeterminate so far. I can try and guess on other things, but that's just that, guessing, because that type of things could be explained by other reasons

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 13:58

Guest wrote:
Today, 13:45
Guest wrote:
Today, 13:22
Guest wrote:
Today, 11:28
Lmao they have clearly talked about this.
Not entirely sure what to make of Jiu. When she has time to think and respond she gives very neutral responses and teases fans a lot but that one comment from 2022 was such a massive hetero normative slap that it's been seared into my brain. I don't really know what to make of her remarks any more. I just don't buy into the argument that she was so insanely comphet after 5 years of catering to shippers and queer fans. Remove the shipping goggles and I just don't see it anymore. Maybe I'm jaded.
Da I have to respectfully disagree about Jiu because it's been brought up so many times. This is without shipping goggles cause I don't believe any of the ships are real. I don't think that one moment is as bad as it's made it out to be tbh.

Speaking from personal experiences, comphet is a thing, even for many queer folks because that's mostly what we're surrounded by. I have been guilty of doing the same when someone was talking about a girlfriend/boyfriend I had automatically assumed that the partner was of opposite gender. It took me a lot of time to get rid of that mindset and even now I have to sometimes remind myself not to make assumptions. There's a reason why many bi women tend to end up with men because it's more socially accepted.

I don't have any opinions about Jiu's sexuality because I find her to be confusing. There have been few sus moments but she tends to be neutral in most cases so I don't know what to think.
While I get what you mean what she said wasn't an assumption of two people of the opposite sex dating. She was shooting down the idea that a date was romantic because the two people could be of the same gender. I get comphet being like a man and a woman hanging out being seen as automatically romantic or assuming two people who are dating are of the opposite sex, I don't get the level of comp het where you yourself are wlw and use both parties being the same sex as evidence of it being non romantic.
I mean take this scenario.

Secondly you and I being comphet is objectively different than what happened here since we aren't in a career where we are actively play up the queerness of every friendly interaction amongst friends of the same sex for fanservice. And gender neutrality isn't exactly a big deal since late 3rd gen onwards idols have mostly stayed gender neutral.
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This is just my opinion on her, you don't have to agree since we clearly have different ideas on her. Nobody else has to either. I just presented my point and I respect your opinion and experiences. :heart:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 13:45

Guest wrote:
Today, 13:22
Guest wrote:
Today, 11:28
Lmao they have clearly talked about this.
Not entirely sure what to make of Jiu. When she has time to think and respond she gives very neutral responses and teases fans a lot but that one comment from 2022 was such a massive hetero normative slap that it's been seared into my brain. I don't really know what to make of her remarks any more. I just don't buy into the argument that she was so insanely comphet after 5 years of catering to shippers and queer fans. Remove the shipping goggles and I just don't see it anymore. Maybe I'm jaded.
Da I have to respectfully disagree about Jiu because it's been brought up so many times. This is without shipping goggles cause I don't believe any of the ships are real. I don't think that one moment is as bad as it's made it out to be tbh.

Speaking from personal experiences, comphet is a thing, even for many queer folks because that's mostly what we're surrounded by. I have been guilty of doing the same when someone was talking about a girlfriend/boyfriend I had automatically assumed that the partner was of opposite gender. It took me a lot of time to get rid of that mindset and even now I have to sometimes remind myself not to make assumptions. There's a reason why many bi women tend to end up with men because it's more socially accepted.

I don't have any opinions about Jiu's sexuality because I find her to be confusing. There have been few sus moments but she tends to be neutral in most cases so I don't know what to think.
While I get what you mean what she said wasn't an assumption of two people of the opposite sex dating. She was shooting down the idea that a date was romantic because the two people could be of the same gender. I get comphet being like a man and a woman hanging out being seen as automatically romantic or assuming two people who are dating are of the opposite sex, I don't get the level of comp het where you yourself are wlw and use both parties being the same sex as evidence of it being non romantic.
I mean take this scenario.

Secondly you and I being comphet is objectively different than what happened here since we aren't in a career where we are actively play up the queerness of every friendly interaction amongst friends of the same sex for fanservice. And gender neutrality isn't exactly a big deal since late 3rd gen onwards idols have mostly stayed gender neutral.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 13:22

Guest wrote:
Today, 11:28
Lmao they have clearly talked about this.
Not entirely sure what to make of Jiu. When she has time to think and respond she gives very neutral responses and teases fans a lot but that one comment from 2022 was such a massive hetero normative slap that it's been seared into my brain. I don't really know what to make of her remarks any more. I just don't buy into the argument that she was so insanely comphet after 5 years of catering to shippers and queer fans. Remove the shipping goggles and I just don't see it anymore. Maybe I'm jaded.
Da I have to respectfully disagree about Jiu because it's been brought up so many times. This is without shipping goggles cause I don't believe any of the ships are real. I don't think that one moment is as bad as it's made it out to be tbh.

Speaking from personal experiences, comphet is a thing, even for many queer folks because that's mostly what we're surrounded by. I have been guilty of doing the same when someone was talking about a girlfriend/boyfriend I had automatically assumed that the partner was of opposite gender. It took me a lot of time to get rid of that mindset and even now I have to sometimes remind myself not to make assumptions. There's a reason why many bi women tend to end up with men because it's more socially accepted.

I don't have any opinions about Jiu's sexuality because I find her to be confusing. There have been few sus moments but she tends to be neutral in most cases so I don't know what to think.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 11:28

Guest wrote:
Today, 10:13
I'm pretty sure that by now members have an agreement to say deukae to this question, but this convos are so funny to me


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Lmao they have clearly talked about this.
Not entirely sure what to make of Jiu. When she has time to think and respond she gives very neutral responses and teases fans a lot but that one comment from 2022 was such a massive hetero normative slap that it's been seared into my brain. I don't really know what to make of her remarks any more. I just don't buy into the argument that she was so insanely comphet after 5 years of catering to shippers and queer fans. Remove the shipping goggles and I just don't see it anymore. Maybe I'm jaded.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Today, 10:13

I'm pretty sure that by now members have an agreement to say deukae to this question, but this convos are so funny to me


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Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 20:55

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 17:13

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Yesterday, 16:32
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Yesterday, 15:27
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Yesterday, 04:07

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Oh my god I've looked at women like this. :lol: Can't hide it, can you, Siyeon? :hmmm:
It's the way she stuck out her tongue :lol:
Its the way she was planning to look to the side, got distracted by Bora's thighs and got stuck there till Jiu snapped her out of it.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 16:50

Love how the Siyeon anti thinks she's an Oscar worthy actress who has managed to play the most convincing sapphic with the most obscure tells for the last n number of years and not slipped even once. :rofl:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 16:32

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 15:27
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 04:07
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Yesterday, 03:48
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16 Apr 2024, 20:14
I was watching the scream era notes and Siyeon is about as straight as fusilli. I don't get bisexual from her. At all.
For real. The way she was checked out Sua there and that being just one of the many moments of her checking out women screams gay to me. I can understand some anons thinking she may be bi but i personally don't get that vibe
I'll be honest, I don't exactly see the bi thing either. Sure she could be but there is nothing to suggest she is bi or into men at all so far. Now had she talked about guys at any point in any real capacity I could have seen it. But in the last 10 years of her being on camera she hasn't slipped once about men while she has multiple times about women. It's not a case of there being nothing like with Handong, she has repeatedly shown attraction to women and towards men it's still crickets. I mean to each their own obviously, we don't know her and these are just speculations but I don't really see it.
Image
Oh my god I've looked at women like this. :lol: Can't hide it, can you, Siyeon? :hmmm:
It's the way she stuck out her tongue :lol:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 15:50

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 15:27
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 04:07
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 03:48
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 20:14
I was watching the scream era notes and Siyeon is about as straight as fusilli. I don't get bisexual from her. At all.
For real. The way she was checked out Sua there and that being just one of the many moments of her checking out women screams gay to me. I can understand some anons thinking she may be bi but i personally don't get that vibe
I'll be honest, I don't exactly see the bi thing either. Sure she could be but there is nothing to suggest she is bi or into men at all so far. Now had she talked about guys at any point in any real capacity I could have seen it. But in the last 10 years of her being on camera she hasn't slipped once about men while she has multiple times about women. It's not a case of there being nothing like with Handong, she has repeatedly shown attraction to women and towards men it's still crickets. I mean to each their own obviously, we don't know her and these are just speculations but I don't really see it.
Image
Oh my god I've looked at women like this. :lol: Can't hide it, can you, Siyeon? :hmmm:
She knew the cameras were rolling. Siyeon’s gotta serve them fansites. 😆

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 15:27

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 04:07
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 03:48
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 20:14
I was watching the scream era notes and Siyeon is about as straight as fusilli. I don't get bisexual from her. At all.
For real. The way she was checked out Sua there and that being just one of the many moments of her checking out women screams gay to me. I can understand some anons thinking she may be bi but i personally don't get that vibe
I'll be honest, I don't exactly see the bi thing either. Sure she could be but there is nothing to suggest she is bi or into men at all so far. Now had she talked about guys at any point in any real capacity I could have seen it. But in the last 10 years of her being on camera she hasn't slipped once about men while she has multiple times about women. It's not a case of there being nothing like with Handong, she has repeatedly shown attraction to women and towards men it's still crickets. I mean to each their own obviously, we don't know her and these are just speculations but I don't really see it.
Image
Oh my god I've looked at women like this. :lol: Can't hide it, can you, Siyeon? :hmmm:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 12:27

Trying so hard to convince yourself someone with zero actual receipts or evidence and all fanservice is gay. :mask:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 08:41

My thing is I won't just assume x or y is interested in men unless there is something for me to think that way. I didn't consider Jiu het or gay or bi till she made that very het normative comment. I don't consider Sua bi because there is barely anything worth pointing out to indicate an interest in women while there is a lot to indicate an interest in men. Handong is a big question mark because there is nothing there in any direction, Yoohyeon is the only one confirmed bi because she said so, Dami is wlw imo and I lean lesbian with her because of the things she has said being almost exclusively about women and that sus banner and lyrics, Gahyeon's sus moments are too basic for me to really make a decision on her but I lean wlw with her, there just isn't much there for me to go on. Which brings me to Siyeon, I have seen no interest in men whatsoever, a lot of it towards women, unless she either shows up with a bf or says something to indicate an interest in them I will continue to consider her a lesbian and if she does then she's bi since there is no denying she likes women.
That's my opinion.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 07:27

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 06:04
She wasn't lying when she said she finds Sua's body hot 😂
She's been pretty clear about it yes. There is being a girl's girl where you constantly shower people in compliments, then there is whatever Siyeon does.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 06:04

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 05:34
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 05:27
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 04:07
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 03:48
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 20:14
I was watching the scream era notes and Siyeon is about as straight as fusilli. I don't get bisexual from her. At all.
For real. The way she was checked out Sua there and that being just one of the many moments of her checking out women screams gay to me. I can understand some anons thinking she may be bi but i personally don't get that vibe
I'll be honest, I don't exactly see the bi thing either. Sure she could be but there is nothing to suggest she is bi or into men at all so far. Now had she talked about guys at any point in any real capacity I could have seen it. But in the last 10 years of her being on camera she hasn't slipped once about men while she has multiple times about women. It's not a case of there being nothing like with Handong, she has repeatedly shown attraction to women and towards men it's still crickets. I mean to each their own obviously, we don't know her and these are just speculations but I don't really see it.
Image
It's the way she checks out women. Nothing about her gaze is how straight women look at other straight women. She gets absolutely mesmerised for a second there and then gets snapped back to reality.

Btw who was standing beside her in that gif?
Sua on the left, Jiu on the right.
She wasn't lying when she said she finds Sua's body hot 😂

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 05:34

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 05:27
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 04:07
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 03:48
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 20:14
I was watching the scream era notes and Siyeon is about as straight as fusilli. I don't get bisexual from her. At all.
For real. The way she was checked out Sua there and that being just one of the many moments of her checking out women screams gay to me. I can understand some anons thinking she may be bi but i personally don't get that vibe
I'll be honest, I don't exactly see the bi thing either. Sure she could be but there is nothing to suggest she is bi or into men at all so far. Now had she talked about guys at any point in any real capacity I could have seen it. But in the last 10 years of her being on camera she hasn't slipped once about men while she has multiple times about women. It's not a case of there being nothing like with Handong, she has repeatedly shown attraction to women and towards men it's still crickets. I mean to each their own obviously, we don't know her and these are just speculations but I don't really see it.
Image
It's the way she checks out women. Nothing about her gaze is how straight women look at other straight women. She gets absolutely mesmerised for a second there and then gets snapped back to reality.

Btw who was standing beside her in that gif?
Sua on the left, Jiu on the right.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 05:27

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 04:07
Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 03:48
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 20:14
I was watching the scream era notes and Siyeon is about as straight as fusilli. I don't get bisexual from her. At all.
For real. The way she was checked out Sua there and that being just one of the many moments of her checking out women screams gay to me. I can understand some anons thinking she may be bi but i personally don't get that vibe
I'll be honest, I don't exactly see the bi thing either. Sure she could be but there is nothing to suggest she is bi or into men at all so far. Now had she talked about guys at any point in any real capacity I could have seen it. But in the last 10 years of her being on camera she hasn't slipped once about men while she has multiple times about women. It's not a case of there being nothing like with Handong, she has repeatedly shown attraction to women and towards men it's still crickets. I mean to each their own obviously, we don't know her and these are just speculations but I don't really see it.
Image
It's the way she checks out women. Nothing about her gaze is how straight women look at other straight women. She gets absolutely mesmerised for a second there and then gets snapped back to reality.

Btw who was standing beside her in that gif?

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 04:07

Guest wrote:
Yesterday, 03:48
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 20:14
I was watching the scream era notes and Siyeon is about as straight as fusilli. I don't get bisexual from her. At all.
For real. The way she was checked out Sua there and that being just one of the many moments of her checking out women screams gay to me. I can understand some anons thinking she may be bi but i personally don't get that vibe
I'll be honest, I don't exactly see the bi thing either. Sure she could be but there is nothing to suggest she is bi or into men at all so far. Now had she talked about guys at any point in any real capacity I could have seen it. But in the last 10 years of her being on camera she hasn't slipped once about men while she has multiple times about women. It's not a case of there being nothing like with Handong, she has repeatedly shown attraction to women and towards men it's still crickets. I mean to each their own obviously, we don't know her and these are just speculations but I don't really see it.
Image

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » Yesterday, 03:48

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 20:14
I was watching the scream era notes and Siyeon is about as straight as fusilli. I don't get bisexual from her. At all.
For real. The way she was checked out Sua there and that being just one of the many moments of her checking out women screams gay to me. I can understand some anons thinking she may be bi but i personally don't get that vibe

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 20:14

I was watching the scream era notes and Siyeon is about as straight as fusilli. I don't get bisexual from her. At all.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 15:19

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 12:15
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 09:17
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16 Apr 2024, 08:48
Jibo and siyoo having all out fanfic wars in their insta comments. 😭
I am going to pretend they saw those homophobes harassing lesbians for making silly thirst tweets and decided to go all in. The timing is too funny.


More context :lol: Siyeon honey...

This is so funny. Clearly they give no fucks about what lesbians think of them and by these things, they are not bothered about shipping either :rofl:

More flirting please, I love it!
Girl if anything they enjoy what lesbians think of them :lol: jokes aside, a group that possibly has 3 wlw members, has always been supportive of lgbt and highly loves engaging in shipping and fanservice wouldn't give 2 shits about some lesbian thirst tweets. DC will always have a big gay fanbase and reddit incels can seethe

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 12:15

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 09:17
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 08:48
Jibo and siyoo having all out fanfic wars in their insta comments. 😭
I am going to pretend they saw those homophobes harassing lesbians for making silly thirst tweets and decided to go all in. The timing is too funny.


More context :lol: Siyeon honey...

This is so funny. Clearly they give no fucks about what lesbians think of them and by these things, they are not bothered about shipping either :rofl:

More flirting please, I love it!

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 09:17

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 08:48
Jibo and siyoo having all out fanfic wars in their insta comments. 😭
I am going to pretend they saw those homophobes harassing lesbians for making silly thirst tweets and decided to go all in. The timing is too funny.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 08:48

Jibo and siyoo having all out fanfic wars in their insta comments. 😭

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 08:29

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16 Apr 2024, 08:20
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16 Apr 2024, 08:03
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16 Apr 2024, 07:15
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16 Apr 2024, 06:26
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I have seen gay Siyeon talk even by sapphic fans who frown on speculating on idol sexuality. Even the non Siyeon stans. I'm not sure if it's because of her vibe, the sheer amount of beyond sus things she has said or done or what. And recently she overtook even Jiu on the idols Korean lesbians like list which is insane because Jiu has been the most popular on that list since boombayah oppa to unnie change and would usually be almost 20 spots above all the others. Even Dami doesn't get that much gay talk despite being the one people usually suspect.
Da i think the reason is with the recent dating reveals of female idols who were famous amongst lgbt fans, there has been a shift into seriously discussing about which idols are actually fam and who are just fanservicing. It was at that moment I started seeing idols like Siyeon or Se0la and some others from lesser known groups being talked about.
Hmm as for the list usually a jump up has to do with some kind of boost in popularity. The change in the list happened suddenly in the 2023 list which was voted on in May that year. K's dating scandal didn't happen till Jan 2024 and she topped that list. It's possible that Siyeon simply caught the k-lesbian's eye when DC started getting more popular there recently but then it makes no sense that 2yoora fell out of the list completely. Especially since Siyeon didn't really do much to stand out other than wear pride shoes and that happened after the voting. Maybe it's a fluke, maybe k-lesbian's know something we don't (jk). Other than that yes, since the scandals this year people on Twitter are focussing more on idols that are more likely to actually be wlw based on observation as opposed to just calling everyone gay cause of how wary they have become. Especially with all the homophobes and lesbophobes coming out of the woodworks since the dating scandal.
DA I think it has a lot to do with deukae’s general rise in popularity plus Siyeon bias wrecking a lot of people so hard they switch. Minji is more of a general public darling while Siyeon is by far the most biased within the fandom itself now. Let’s not forget it’s not just korean wlw voting on that poll, lots of international fans and straight people who just want to see their fav on top of a list.
Hmm, didnt they switch up the voting and refuse to post the list because of the I fans and straight people? Siyeon didn't really wreck people all that much till the second half if 2023. Dami, Yoohyeon and Handong were still wrecking people more during bon voyage, especially yoohdong with their hair. Siyeon started really wrecking people once she showed up with the red hair. It still doesn't make sense as to why suddenly everyone else fell off. I think it's a one time thing and that the others fell off because so many new groups have caught people's eye. I could be wrong but that's my take for now.
(This isn't sexuality speculation, it's more about trying to figure out the trends).

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 08:20

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 08:03
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 07:15
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16 Apr 2024, 06:26
X2
I have seen gay Siyeon talk even by sapphic fans who frown on speculating on idol sexuality. Even the non Siyeon stans. I'm not sure if it's because of her vibe, the sheer amount of beyond sus things she has said or done or what. And recently she overtook even Jiu on the idols Korean lesbians like list which is insane because Jiu has been the most popular on that list since boombayah oppa to unnie change and would usually be almost 20 spots above all the others. Even Dami doesn't get that much gay talk despite being the one people usually suspect.
Da i think the reason is with the recent dating reveals of female idols who were famous amongst lgbt fans, there has been a shift into seriously discussing about which idols are actually fam and who are just fanservicing. It was at that moment I started seeing idols like Siyeon or Se0la and some others from lesser known groups being talked about.
Hmm as for the list usually a jump up has to do with some kind of boost in popularity. The change in the list happened suddenly in the 2023 list which was voted on in May that year. K's dating scandal didn't happen till Jan 2024 and she topped that list. It's possible that Siyeon simply caught the k-lesbian's eye when DC started getting more popular there recently but then it makes no sense that 2yoora fell out of the list completely. Especially since Siyeon didn't really do much to stand out other than wear pride shoes and that happened after the voting. Maybe it's a fluke, maybe k-lesbian's know something we don't (jk). Other than that yes, since the scandals this year people on Twitter are focussing more on idols that are more likely to actually be wlw based on observation as opposed to just calling everyone gay cause of how wary they have become. Especially with all the homophobes and lesbophobes coming out of the woodworks since the dating scandal.
DA I think it has a lot to do with deukae’s general rise in popularity plus Siyeon bias wrecking a lot of people so hard they switch. Minji is more of a general public darling while Siyeon is by far the most biased within the fandom itself now. Let’s not forget it’s not just korean wlw voting on that poll, lots of international fans and straight people who just want to see their fav on top of a list.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 08:10

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16 Apr 2024, 07:09
Oh lol, sorry I misunderstood. But yes I agree! One recent moment that stands out to me the most is in the bts video for their anniversary concert when Jiu suggested putting that sticker on Siyeon's neck she said "but if I put this on me today, won't I look... You know? I'll look so lewd". She knew very well how she's gonna dress and knew that sticker is only gonna make the gay fans go crazy over her and she decided to go through with it lol.

I think earlier Dami and Siyeon still occasionally tried to switch up their image a bit maybe to" fit in" but now it's like they're very comfortable with how they dress and how they're being perceived by fans.
Lol. The fact that people began suspecting Siyeon more during her awkward ass femme era than they did before is lowkey hilarious. With Dami I think it worked because a lot of people switched up on her when she grew out her hair and started going for the hot girl vibe.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 08:03

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 07:15
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:26
X2
I have seen gay Siyeon talk even by sapphic fans who frown on speculating on idol sexuality. Even the non Siyeon stans. I'm not sure if it's because of her vibe, the sheer amount of beyond sus things she has said or done or what. And recently she overtook even Jiu on the idols Korean lesbians like list which is insane because Jiu has been the most popular on that list since boombayah oppa to unnie change and would usually be almost 20 spots above all the others. Even Dami doesn't get that much gay talk despite being the one people usually suspect.
Da i think the reason is with the recent dating reveals of female idols who were famous amongst lgbt fans, there has been a shift into seriously discussing about which idols are actually fam and who are just fanservicing. It was at that moment I started seeing idols like Siyeon or Se0la and some others from lesser known groups being talked about.
Hmm as for the list usually a jump up has to do with some kind of boost in popularity. The change in the list happened suddenly in the 2023 list which was voted on in May that year. K's dating scandal didn't happen till Jan 2024 and she topped that list. It's possible that Siyeon simply caught the k-lesbian's eye when DC started getting more popular there recently but then it makes no sense that 2yoora fell out of the list completely. Especially since Siyeon didn't really do much to stand out other than wear pride shoes and that happened after the voting. Maybe it's a fluke, maybe k-lesbian's know something we don't (jk). Other than that yes, since the scandals this year people on Twitter are focussing more on idols that are more likely to actually be wlw based on observation as opposed to just calling everyone gay cause of how wary they have become. Especially with all the homophobes and lesbophobes coming out of the woodworks since the dating scandal.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 07:15

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:26
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:02
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16 Apr 2024, 05:44
Nobody can convince me that Siyeon and Dami do not know what the fandom thinks of them. Like there is no way they only think they've got gay fans and not that the fandom actually thinks they are gay. It's just not possible. :ragee:
Pretty sure every single one of them know what fans think about them, including their sexualities. I know a lot of fans make "x is gay" jokes on twitter but nowadays I have seen Siyeon being mentioned in conversations about the list of idols who are actually gay. Surprisingly some non-fans also agree. So yeah, the members must be aware. And my 2 cents? Siyeon and Dami revel in it
X2
I have seen gay Siyeon talk even by sapphic fans who frown on speculating on idol sexuality. Even the non Siyeon stans. I'm not sure if it's because of her vibe, the sheer amount of beyond sus things she has said or done or what. And recently she overtook even Jiu on the idols Korean lesbians like list which is insane because Jiu has been the most popular on that list since boombayah oppa to unnie change and would usually be almost 20 spots above all the others. Even Dami doesn't get that much gay talk despite being the one people usually suspect.
Da i think the reason is with the recent dating reveals of female idols who were famous amongst lgbt fans, there has been a shift into seriously discussing about which idols are actually fam and who are just fanservicing. It was at that moment I started seeing idols like Siyeon or Se0la and some others from lesser known groups being talked about.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 07:09

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:40
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:35
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:26
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:02
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:44
Nobody can convince me that Siyeon and Dami do not know what the fandom thinks of them. Like there is no way they only think they've got gay fans and not that the fandom actually thinks they are gay. It's just not possible. :ragee:
Pretty sure every single one of them know what fans think about them, including their sexualities. I know a lot of fans make "x is gay" jokes on twitter but nowadays I have seen Siyeon being mentioned in conversations about the list of idols who are actually gay. Surprisingly some non-fans also agree. So yeah, the members must be aware. And my 2 cents? Siyeon and Dami revel in it
Da See this is the thing. They know the fandom assumes they are gay and then proceed to do things that reinforce that idea. Siyeon showing up dressed the way she did for the 7th anniversary concert, Dami's gf style vlives, the things they say so often and consistently throughout the years. All the girls do fanservice but these two are something else.
Sa I didn't mean it in this sense though. Yeah they all do fanservice but I don't think siyeon or dami deliberately play it up. I think the dressing stuff is just them being comfortable. The flirting... Well all the members are pro at that so I don't think much of it. In a group where everyone flirts with everyone, it took fans a lot of observations to come to the conclusion that these two are possibly wlw
Lmao no, I was agreeing with you. I meant that they seem to almost want to be seen that way.
Oh lol, sorry I misunderstood. But yes I agree! One recent moment that stands out to me the most is in the bts video for their anniversary concert when Jiu suggested putting that sticker on Siyeon's neck she said "but if I put this on me today, won't I look... You know? I'll look so lewd". She knew very well how she's gonna dress and knew that sticker is only gonna make the gay fans go crazy over her and she decided to go through with it lol.

I think earlier Dami and Siyeon still occasionally tried to switch up their image a bit maybe to" fit in" but now it's like they're very comfortable with how they dress and how they're being perceived by fans.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 06:43

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:26
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:02
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:44
Nobody can convince me that Siyeon and Dami do not know what the fandom thinks of them. Like there is no way they only think they've got gay fans and not that the fandom actually thinks they are gay. It's just not possible. :ragee:
Pretty sure every single one of them know what fans think about them, including their sexualities. I know a lot of fans make "x is gay" jokes on twitter but nowadays I have seen Siyeon being mentioned in conversations about the list of idols who are actually gay. Surprisingly some non-fans also agree. So yeah, the members must be aware. And my 2 cents? Siyeon and Dami revel in it
X2
I have seen gay Siyeon talk even by sapphic fans who frown on speculating on idol sexuality. Even the non Siyeon stans. I'm not sure if it's because of her vibe, the sheer amount of beyond sus things she has said or done or what. And recently she overtook even Jiu on the idols Korean lesbians like list which is insane because Jiu has been the most popular on that list since boombayah oppa to unnie change and would usually be almost 20 spots above all the others. Even Dami doesn't get that much gay talk despite being the one people usually suspect.
Sa Quoting again because I meant to respond to this post.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 06:40

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:35
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:26
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:02
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:44
Nobody can convince me that Siyeon and Dami do not know what the fandom thinks of them. Like there is no way they only think they've got gay fans and not that the fandom actually thinks they are gay. It's just not possible. :ragee:
Pretty sure every single one of them know what fans think about them, including their sexualities. I know a lot of fans make "x is gay" jokes on twitter but nowadays I have seen Siyeon being mentioned in conversations about the list of idols who are actually gay. Surprisingly some non-fans also agree. So yeah, the members must be aware. And my 2 cents? Siyeon and Dami revel in it
Da See this is the thing. They know the fandom assumes they are gay and then proceed to do things that reinforce that idea. Siyeon showing up dressed the way she did for the 7th anniversary concert, Dami's gf style vlives, the things they say so often and consistently throughout the years. All the girls do fanservice but these two are something else.
Sa I didn't mean it in this sense though. Yeah they all do fanservice but I don't think siyeon or dami deliberately play it up. I think the dressing stuff is just them being comfortable. The flirting... Well all the members are pro at that so I don't think much of it. In a group where everyone flirts with everyone, it took fans a lot of observations to come to the conclusion that these two are possibly wlw
Lmao no, I was agreeing with you. I meant that they seem to almost want to be seen that way.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 06:37

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:44
Nobody can convince me that Siyeon and Dami do not know what the fandom thinks of them. Like there is no way they only think they've got gay fans and not that the fandom actually thinks they are gay. It's just not possible. :ragee:
X2
I have seen gay Siyeon talk even by sapphic fans who frown on speculating on idol sexuality. Even the non Siyeon stans. I'm not sure if it's because of her vibe, the sheer amount of beyond sus things she has said or done or what. And recently she overtook even Jiu on the idols Korean lesbians like list which is insane because Jiu has been the most popular on that list since boombayah oppa to unnie change and would usually be almost 20 spots above all the others. Even Dami doesn't get that much gay talk despite being the one people usually suspect.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 06:35

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:26
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:02
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:44
Nobody can convince me that Siyeon and Dami do not know what the fandom thinks of them. Like there is no way they only think they've got gay fans and not that the fandom actually thinks they are gay. It's just not possible. :ragee:
Pretty sure every single one of them know what fans think about them, including their sexualities. I know a lot of fans make "x is gay" jokes on twitter but nowadays I have seen Siyeon being mentioned in conversations about the list of idols who are actually gay. Surprisingly some non-fans also agree. So yeah, the members must be aware. And my 2 cents? Siyeon and Dami revel in it
Da See this is the thing. They know the fandom assumes they are gay and then proceed to do things that reinforce that idea. Siyeon showing up dressed the way she did for the 7th anniversary concert, Dami's gf style vlives, the things they say so often and consistently throughout the years. All the girls do fanservice but these two are something else.
Sa I didn't mean it in this sense though. Yeah they all do fanservice but I don't think siyeon or dami deliberately play it up. I think the dressing stuff is just them being comfortable. The flirting... Well all the members are pro at that so I don't think much of it. In a group where everyone flirts with everyone, it took fans a lot of observations to come to the conclusion that these two are possibly wlw

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 06:26

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 06:02
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:44
Nobody can convince me that Siyeon and Dami do not know what the fandom thinks of them. Like there is no way they only think they've got gay fans and not that the fandom actually thinks they are gay. It's just not possible. :ragee:
Pretty sure every single one of them know what fans think about them, including their sexualities. I know a lot of fans make "x is gay" jokes on twitter but nowadays I have seen Siyeon being mentioned in conversations about the list of idols who are actually gay. Surprisingly some non-fans also agree. So yeah, the members must be aware. And my 2 cents? Siyeon and Dami revel in it
Da See this is the thing. They know the fandom assumes they are gay and then proceed to do things that reinforce that idea. Siyeon showing up dressed the way she did for the 7th anniversary concert, Dami's gf style vlives, the things they say so often and consistently throughout the years. All the girls do fanservice but these two are something else.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 06:02

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 05:44
Nobody can convince me that Siyeon and Dami do not know what the fandom thinks of them. Like there is no way they only think they've got gay fans and not that the fandom actually thinks they are gay. It's just not possible. :ragee:
Pretty sure every single one of them know what fans think about them, including their sexualities. I know a lot of fans make "x is gay" jokes on twitter but nowadays I have seen Siyeon being mentioned in conversations about the list of idols who are actually gay. Surprisingly some non-fans also agree. So yeah, the members must be aware. And my 2 cents? Siyeon and Dami revel in it

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 05:44

Nobody can convince me that Siyeon and Dami do not know what the fandom thinks of them. Like there is no way they only think they've got gay fans and not that the fandom actually thinks they are gay. It's just not possible. :ragee:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 02:47

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16 Apr 2024, 02:37
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 01:31
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15 Apr 2024, 21:45
Do you ever just think about the fact that Siyeon is a full on female anatomy appreciator with a phd on her member's physique and was rooming with miss Kim "I walk around nude" Minji for 10 years? That's my Roman Empire right there.
Da now why would you put this thought in my mind anon :faint:
Jokes aside, I'm really happy that she has members who are so comfortable with her. As a wlw person the worst thing that can happen is to have your close buddies walk around on eggshells. Thankfully Minji and others were like nope :lol:
I mean, yea.
Da so much going on here. First of all both of their outfits were chef's kiss. Siyeon was killing all gays with that short hair, muscle tee and eye patch. Her flustered look. Minji being surprised. The cute hand holding :hug:

Btw this reminds me of this moment



I understand Minji. The way I had gagged when I saw Siyeon in that fit was no joke

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 02:42

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 02:37
Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 01:31
Guest wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 21:45
Do you ever just think about the fact that Siyeon is a full on female anatomy appreciator with a phd on her member's physique and was rooming with miss Kim "I walk around nude" Minji for 10 years? That's my Roman Empire right there.
Da now why would you put this thought in my mind anon :faint:
Jokes aside, I'm really happy that she has members who are so comfortable with her. As a wlw person the worst thing that can happen is to have your close buddies walk around on eggshells. Thankfully Minji and others were like nope :lol:
I mean, yea.
Rare moment of Siyeon gay panicking. That reassuring hand squeeze was everything though :wub:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 02:37

Guest wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 01:31
Guest wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 21:45
Do you ever just think about the fact that Siyeon is a full on female anatomy appreciator with a phd on her member's physique and was rooming with miss Kim "I walk around nude" Minji for 10 years? That's my Roman Empire right there.
Da now why would you put this thought in my mind anon :faint:
Jokes aside, I'm really happy that she has members who are so comfortable with her. As a wlw person the worst thing that can happen is to have your close buddies walk around on eggshells. Thankfully Minji and others were like nope :lol:
I mean, yea.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 01:31

Guest wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 21:45
Do you ever just think about the fact that Siyeon is a full on female anatomy appreciator with a phd on her member's physique and was rooming with miss Kim "I walk around nude" Minji for 10 years? That's my Roman Empire right there.
Da now why would you put this thought in my mind anon :faint:
Jokes aside, I'm really happy that she has members who are so comfortable with her. As a wlw person the worst thing that can happen is to have your close buddies walk around on eggshells. Thankfully Minji and others were like nope :lol:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 16 Apr 2024, 00:20

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15 Apr 2024, 23:27
Jokes aside. Siyeon isn't a loner cause she has no friends, she is a loner because she seems to be perfectly content without other people around and the other members have repeatedly mentioned that she doesn't like to hang out much even with them. I don't think she is lying when she says she doesn't have many close friends outside of DC, I think she is generally a friendly person who has a friend circle but doesn't really grow close to people all that often.

The only one I'd say struggles with friendship is Yoohyeon because she is anxious about people and unlike Siyeon actually needs to have people around her.
Other than Yoohyeon everyone else seems to be doing just fine in terms of friends. Yoohyeon is the only one I think rarely hangs out with her friends outside of the group.
Yeah. I think Yoohyeon might get hit the hardest when they disband, solely because it seems like it's harder for her to really connect with outsiders and they are all peas in a pod.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 15 Apr 2024, 23:27

Jokes aside. Siyeon isn't a loner cause she has no friends, she is a loner because she seems to be perfectly content without other people around and the other members have repeatedly mentioned that she doesn't like to hang out much even with them. I don't think she is lying when she says she doesn't have many close friends outside of DC, I think she is generally a friendly person who has a friend circle but doesn't really grow close to people all that often.

The only one I'd say struggles with friendship is Yoohyeon because she is anxious about people and unlike Siyeon actually needs to have people around her.
Other than Yoohyeon everyone else seems to be doing just fine in terms of friends. Yoohyeon is the only one I think rarely hangs out with her friends outside of the group.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 15 Apr 2024, 23:11

Guest wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 22:19
Guest wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 21:45
Do you ever just think about the fact that Siyeon is a full on female anatomy appreciator with a phd on her member's physique and was rooming with miss Kim "I walk around nude" Minji for 10 years? That's my Roman Empire right there.
Nah jk
It’s good to see her hanging out with fellow 95 liners @day* concert. Woohoo, now we can take comfort knowing she’s a not a loner with no friends. :dance2:
She probably got some off time to hang out with her friends which is great. I have never seen her hang out with them as a group even though the rest typically meet up for get-togethers, concerts or movie premiers etc. I think D0woon probably sent the 95 liners invites cause one of her 95 line friends had an invite ticket. I'm guessing 2hyeon probably got regular tickets. All things aside I love the way she dresses in her off time. And Yoohyeon got so shy when she got caught on camera during the show. Adorable.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 15 Apr 2024, 22:19

Guest wrote:
15 Apr 2024, 21:45
Do you ever just think about the fact that Siyeon is a full on female anatomy appreciator with a phd on her member's physique and was rooming with miss Kim "I walk around nude" Minji for 10 years? That's my Roman Empire right there.
Nah jk
It’s good to see her hanging out with fellow 95 liners @day* concert. Woohoo, now we can take comfort knowing she’s a not a loner with no friends. :dance2:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 15 Apr 2024, 21:45

Do you ever just think about the fact that Siyeon is a full on female anatomy appreciator with a phd on her member's physique and was rooming with miss Kim "I walk around nude" Minji for 10 years? That's my Roman Empire right there.

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 15 Apr 2024, 11:43



They're always sitting or standing so close. It's too cute. :wub:

Re: Dreamcatcher

by Guest » 14 Apr 2024, 04:30

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14 Apr 2024, 04:10
Guest wrote:
13 Apr 2024, 23:08
DA but adding to this, this fan asked her which at3ez member was her bias and she said she liked their songs
The way she answered is why I lean more towards wlw and why I also think when she praises groups and singers she does just because she either likes their music or she's just being polite. I could counter it saying she might actually have a bias and doesn't want to say it because it would cause a problem, but it really looks like she either doesn't remember the names or never really thought about more than the music

I'm crying, why did she say it like that. :rofl:
Girl really wanted to specify it's all about the music. Hilarious expression though 😂

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